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Flux remover

Started by Kipper4, December 30, 2012, 09:14:25 AM

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Kipper4

Anybody got any good products for flux removal.
They seem really expensive to buy, has anyone got any homebrew suggestions?
Ma throats as dry as an overcooked kipper.


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Pyr0

If you're in the uk you should be able to get Polycell Polyclens brush cleaner, that will work.

Dave W

Isopropyl alcohol and a toothbrush. Rinse and repeat as many times as necessary.
That's where it's at.

R O Tiree

I use acetone or pure methyl alcohol (not methylated spirits). Drizzle a bit on the board and then kind of "flick" it off with an old toothbrush. Repeat a couple more times and it's clean.
...you fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way...

Kipper4

thanks guys i'll try some of them.
I've got isopropyl alcohol for cleaning the R2R heads.
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davent

Stainless steel dental pick followed by a small short bristled brush to clean off the flakes, no chemicals involved and you'll find a myriad of other uses for the dental pick.
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Mike Burgundy

@ Mike: could you explain why methyl alcohol (methanol), and not methylated spirits (methanol+alcohol and possibly others such as isopropyl and acetone, etc, aka denatured alcohol)?

R O Tiree

Methylated spirits have oils added, which make them unpalateable (so pi$$-heads don't try to drink it, 'cos it makes you blind).
...you fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way...

Vince_b

What are the negative effects of not removing flux residue from a pcb?

Seljer

Quote from: Vince_b on December 30, 2012, 12:54:33 PM
What are the negative effects of not removing flux residue from a pcb?

Flux tends to be slightly conductive, which usually makes the circuit emit a bunch of extraneous noise until you scrub it off the PCB

Vince_b

I never thought about that, from now on I will make sure to clean the board properly.

J0K3RX

If you ever use this you will never go back...Alpha Metals Pure Core is the BEST!!!

http://www.hisco.com/products/category/Soldering-Desoldering/Solder,-Wire/Water-Soluble

Most alcohols will make a gummy mess of flux... Back in the day we used trichloroethane and that stuff really cleans the boards but really dangerous stuff! Will get you high as a kite and probably kill your @ss if you are around it enough...   

Good stuff here
http://biochemsys.com/cleaning-technology-updates/printed-circuit-board-cleaning/
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Mark Hammer

Quote from: Vince_b on December 30, 2012, 12:54:33 PM
What are the negative effects of not removing flux residue from a pcb?

The negative effect I most frequently come into contact with is that the shinyness of the flux can make it hard to visually inspect a board, to find solder bridges or other shorts, cold joints, and ragged or broken traces.  If I need to debug a board, one of the first things I do is clean the flux off, so that I can look it over accurately, and check all of those possibilities off my list.

I used to use isopropyl alchohol and a toothbrush.  Now I use methyl hydrate.  Yes, it isn't especially healthy, but it doesn't stink, and gets the job done VERY efficiently.

Ronan

Does anyone use naphtha as a flux remover? I was given a bottle by a telecommunications electrician but have never been game to try it on a populated pcb, for fear of damaging components. It also has a strong smell.

J0K3RX

Whatever you do DO NOT use bleach and ammonia!!! Geesh, nearly killed me...  :P
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Kipper4

I wouldnt have a clue where to get methenol.
I might be able to get the brush cleaner or acetete.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
anymore for anymore
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Kipper4

ok Thanks for the tip i will avoid bleach and ammonia.

Naphtha. I googled it and it turns out to be a by product of the petro chemical industry.
Wiki had this to say about it

"Common products made with it include lighter fluid, fuel for camp stoves, and some cleaning solvents."
Ma throats as dry as an overcooked kipper.


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Pyr0

I use naphtha for degreasing enclosures prior to painting and also on PCB's prior to etching, great stuff. I find it works better than acetone.  It's just common lighter fluid.

pinkjimiphoton

Quote from: J0K3RX on December 30, 2012, 05:06:34 PM
Whatever you do DO NOT use bleach and ammonia!!! Geesh, nearly killed me...  :P

nothing like a little mustard gas, 'eh?

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you are EXTREMELY lucky. that particular combo has killed a lot of folks.
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Quote from: R O Tiree on December 30, 2012, 12:33:37 PM
Methylated spirits have oils added, which make them unpalateable (so pi$$-heads don't try to drink it, 'cos it makes you blind).
I knew they had add-ons for exactly that reason (solvents that are poisonous and/or taste *really* bad, sometimes coloring as a warning), although oils are an unknown to me. 'Course, there are many different blends out there. Stuff to light the BBQ with has a different set of design goals than something to sterilise medical tools with. The latter I feel is designed not to leave any residue. (Edit: hang on - I know a chemical engineer... Hope I remember to ask ;P )