Does anyone know of a 'short reverb' project?

Started by mrsuspend, February 02, 2015, 07:35:50 AM

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mrsuspend

All the reverb projects I've found so far are either long and luscious or long and springy, while these often sound gorgeous they seldom work in a busy mix.
Does anyone know of a project dealing more with short reverbs and/or room ambiances? I'd be perfectly happy with one good sound so don't need anything programmable.
The only reference I can think of is the Malekko chicklet, have no idea what IC it uses though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl7yWvWZatM
Any tips appreciated!  :icon_smile:

/Magnus

samhay

The Chicklet has 3 PT2399s in it.
The Belton bricks have 3 PT2399s in them.
Perhaps try a short version of a Belton brick without any regeneration?

Or, one of Merlin's 2-PT2399 reverb designs - e.g. http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=97310.0
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mrsuspend

Quote from: samhay on February 02, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
The Chicklet has 3 PT2399s in it.
The Belton bricks have 3 PT2399s in them.
Perhaps try a short version of a Belton brick without any regeneration?

Or, one of Merlin's 2-PT2399 reverb designs - e.g. http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=97310.0

Thanks, I didn't know the brick contains PT2399:s. I've been looking for a demo of the short version for some time but everyone seems to go with the long...

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vigilante397

I built GGG's D-Verb with a medium Belton brick and it's very controllable reverb, not too "luscious."
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mrsuspend

The short brick has a stated reverb time of 2 seconds which is really the upper limit of a short reverb in my book.
0.6-2s would be a usable range for me but not really longer than that.
I'll read trough the brick threads and see what I find.

/Magnus

vigilante397

Quote from: mrsuspend on February 03, 2015, 09:39:21 AM
The short brick has a stated reverb time of 2 seconds which is really the upper limit of a short reverb in my book.

My experience with the bricks is that reverb time will depend on the build. With any build you should be able to turn down the reverb level of the pedal and get shorter reverb.
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Kipper4

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Hi Magnus
You could always try Inductions All star reverb with a short decay brick.  which If I'm not mistaken is not a lot differnant to the D Verb.
And you can leave out the fedback loop from the all star.
The All star goes from (CCW) no reverb to Flat out lots of verb (CWW)
Anyway heres a thread about it.

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=109321.0

I hope you find what your looking for
Rich

Edit; +1 What Sam & Nathan say :)
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mrsuspend

Quote from: Kipper4 on February 03, 2015, 10:04:36 AM
Hi Magnus
You could always try Inductions All star reverb with a short decay brick.  which If I'm not mistaken is not a lot differnant to the D Verb.
And you can leave out the fedback loop from the all star.
The All star goes from (CCW) no reverb to Flat out lots of verb (CWW)
Anyway heres a thread about it.

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=109321.0

I hope you find what your looking for
Rich

Edit; +1 What Sam & Nathan say :)

Thanks Rich! Is the brick's stated max delay time with the dwell control on min or max?
I did see the newest brick (BTDR-3) has a delay function but I don't know what range it has or what it sounds like.

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Kipper4

The Dwell control basically is the reverbed signal fed back into the bricks input from the bricks second output.
So you will be reverbing the reverb
You do not have to include this feature if you so wish. I found it very usable for the sake of the extra pot.

The Damp control is basically tone shaping for the reverbed signal so you can tone shape it and make it more amp like or effect like. If that makes sense.
I would have trouble getting the BTDR3 at a reasonable price after some research.
Talking to my supplier of BTDR2. He said that the extra would not make the price hike worthwhile and he would not be stocking them, partly because it didnt offer enough if a differance and he also stated that he didnt think there would be enough DIY demand to warrent the investment.
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Quote from: Kipper4 on February 03, 2015, 11:42:45 AM
I would have trouble getting the BTDR3 at a reasonable price after some research.

@Rich: I might have reason to place an order at Banzai.  To make it worth my while I'd pick up a few "extras".  Could grab a BTDR3 or two if you're interested?  PM me...
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mrsuspend

Quote from: Kipper4 on February 03, 2015, 11:42:45 AM
Talking to my supplier of BTDR2. He said that the extra would not make the price hike worthwhile and he would not be stocking them, partly because it didnt offer enough if a differance and he also
The BTDR3 is actually a few cents less than the BTDR2 at Banzaieffects- at least right now.
Quote from: Kipper4 on February 03, 2015, 11:42:45 AM
Reggae and Ska all day.
That's what I though when I heard your demo!  :icon_lol:

/Magnus