Good pedal for modern metal ?

[Willypp]

Entering into this late, but I built a Dead Astronaut X-Fuzz on vero for just the same purpose.  Not necessarily *metal*, but it is pretty awesome sounding for it's low part count.

[deadastronaut]

@willyp...cool, did you try the x rock too...thats pretty nice too..

[steveyraff]

I made several slightly modded Dr.Boogies for a few people. A very modern voiced, ultra high gain pedal. Only criticism I'd have, is that it turns any amp you run it through into a Boogie metal machine - ie, it'll not sound like that amp anymore. But I guess this generally isn't a problem for these applications.

I recommend the V2 layout here with "gaussmarkov's improvements". If you read over the comments, you'll also find other values here and there you can change to tailor for your needs.

http://tagboardeffects.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/dr-boogie.html

[Kipper4]

What mod Stevey?

[steveyraff]

Just gaussmarkov's version with a couple of value changes I'd read about.

Hey @Kipper4 what about that Boogie you were working on that time? Did you get it finished up?

[Kipper4]

Sure did it kinda morphed into my B52 more like a bogner xtc

[Kipper4]

I ended up building several high gain jfet emu's thanks to all the help. B52 is where I ended up, partly because I wanted something that had a differant sound to a Dr boo.
I love the Dr boo it's such a fun toy.

I've heard lots of folks say they modded the tone stack, scaling it up to more like amp values.

I think it would be a good idea for the op (original poster) to take a look at the new ROG Thunderbird high gainer thread and look over some of the suggested mods from members, lots of good stuff in there for modern metal.
It's worth bearing in mind that this is a higher than 9v circuit.
I hope you find something to suit your needs and rig.
Rich

[edy_wheazel]

 Try building a Triple Wreck or a Big Muff Op-Amp. Also, you can try Pharaoh Fuzz, I made one with a modified tonestack, I can post the project/s if you are intrested.

[J0K3RX]

Rich - Sounds kick ass man!! I like how you messed around with a few different jfet emu's, took what you liked and designed your own thing! Very cool man!

[Kipper4]

Jim my friend you made that project happen man.
I couldn't have done it without all you previous work on high gainers. Your shared experiences gave me a big leg up.
Thank you for the kind comment as well as everything else.
Jok3r has an extensive experience in this field as does DA.

By the way here's one of the thunderbird threads

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=109783.msg1007031#msg1007031


I'm getting away from the point of this thread. Perhaps not a first time project the Thunderbird.hhhmm

[steveyraff]

That sounds awesome Rich. It reminds me of a more open sounding Dr Boo, but less coloured than normal. I like its low gain settings - not too fizzy which sometimes happens.

I forget all the values I changed to gaussemarks V2 layout, but I socketed a lot on my first build and messed around until I honed into a sound I liked.

I built a few of these for other people who wanted one, but admittedly, they all had the usual feedback issues. I spent a lot of time trying my best to solve this, using a lot of feedback from people on here from previous builds etc. At high gain settings its difficult to avoid the squeel. I tuned the JFETs to ear. Q1 can be adjusted to prevent most of the feedback, but at the sacrifice of some gain. There was a few value changes in there somewhere that helped some too (can't recall them, but wrote them all down), and the usual shielding.

Your B52 sounds nicer than my Dr.Boogie at low gain settings too. Nice natural sound! As you say, they are really fun toys though! I always plug mine in for home use when I am messing around with some hard rock and metal tunes - but yea, it makes my Orange amp not sound like an Orange amp anymore - which normally would be a bad thing, but not so much when I actually want soemthing to colour my sound to something much more modern voiced!

[Kipper4]

Nice chops Stevey.
Sounds great man.
Again the lower gain levels allow a better clarity and definition than the saturated high gain settings.
I love it

[Willypp]

@willyp...cool, did you try the x rock too...thats pretty nice too..

No, I have to say I didn't, mainly because I couldn't seem to find anything about it except some by the way mentions of it in a few posts along the way of looking into the x-fuzz.  The youtube demo sold me on the x-fuzz, I pretty much had it on repeat.

Where can I find x-rock info?

[deadastronaut]

in the Xfuzz thread..