Gator - looking for a longer release - ?

Started by blackieNYC, February 28, 2017, 11:17:05 PM

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A forum search yields a lot of threads, some of which have some mention of mods.  But no luck in finding a way to extend the release time.  It doesn't appear to employ the diodes in the side chain in the same manner as other gates, but I have tried inserting a pot or cap in a few not-quite-random places.  Any ideas?
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C8 being the charge cap
I would try different value pots for attack decay
Failing that a largish pot as a variable resistor to gnd around c8
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Thanks K
It is on the bb. I've already tried a pot to ground around that spot, putting two or three diodes where that one is across the attack/decay. And a few other silly things.

C8 charges slowly and discharges quickly.  I'm sure a slower discharge is the only way. I've tried another cap to ground on the other side of the diode. No change.
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there is a diode across the attack delay pot, w/ K to the opamp. this will allow the C8 to dump all it's charge fast as soon as the opamp output is lower than the cap charge (I'd say). so put a pot in-line with that diode to slow the discharge, she'll be apples.
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You know, I tried that too!  I used a 1Meg pot and tried throughout its whole range. No change in release.  I'll try again - you sound optimistic.  Variable resistor in line with the diode, the two of them being parallel with the attack pot .


Edit - I think I'm the round hole/square peg domain here.  The gator is a sweller, and there is no sign of anyone ever extending the release.  This will be another sweller, and for a gate I'll try some thing like amrdnrdy's fencepost.
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