a clean preamp for 1 channel amps

Started by birt, December 16, 2004, 02:48:00 PM

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birt

I've got a jmp2203 and an 18watt amp.
i really like the overdrive/distortion on those amps but switching to a clean sound is really hard if i have to do it fast.

so i started thinking...

i would like to build a clean preamp to plug in the return of the fx loop.
With a built in A/B so i can switch between the clean external preamp and the overdriven normal preamp inside the amp with a footswitch.
the clean preamp must be loud.. so i won't have a volume drop when i switch to clean.
And because it would be external, i could use it with both my amps.
Transistor or tube, whatever sounds best (poweramp would be tube anyway cus that's in my normal amp)

Do you guys like the idea?

I don't know enough to design this myself but if anyone has ideas or wants to design something like that (mybe even with accoustic guitar setting) that would be awesome!

i also posted this at 18watt.com


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Bert
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RDV

Here's one that I pretty much copied off of Rod Elliot's site. I simplified it for my needs. The one I came up with myself distorts a whole bunch, so I thought I'd try his design minus the distortion elements to see if it's a nice clean sound. I'm working way too much to get to this anytime soon. It would probably work better on 15v+/- than 9.


RDV

Ben N

The Alembic F2B is basically a Fender Twin preamp; David Gilmour had a modivified one in his rig for clean, using basically the same setup you are suggesting.

http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/alembpre.gif

If you want to skip the tubes and the high voltage, you can make an FET emulation of it using the Fetzer Valve at RunoffGroove--just make a pair of them with a tone stack in between.

You can do pretty much the same thing with any preamp design you like--some of the ROG emulations sound good clean, even though they are more likely to be used cranked.  Or try your own, with something like the Ampeg Gemini preamp--clean, with a Baxandahl stack.

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birt

Quote from: Ben NThe Alembic F2B is basically a Fender Twin preamp; David Gilmour had a modivified one in his rig for clean, using basically the same setup you are suggesting.

http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/alembpre.gif

If you want to skip the tubes and the high voltage, you can make an FET emulation of it using the Fetzer Valve at RunoffGroove--just make a pair of them with a tone stack in between.

You can do pretty much the same thing with any preamp design you like--some of the ROG emulations sound good clean, even though they are more likely to be used cranked.  Or try your own, with something like the Ampeg Gemini preamp--clean, with a Baxandahl stack.

Ben
that seems nice. anyone with more suggestions?
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zeta55

I built that preamp from Rod Elliot's site. It's nice and clean with a good tone controll.

Quote from: RDVHere's one that I pretty much copied off of Rod Elliot's site. I simplified it for my needs. The one I came up with myself distorts a whole bunch, so I thought I'd try his design minus the distortion elements to see if it's a nice clean sound. I'm working way too much to get to this anytime soon. It would probably work better on 15v+/- than 9.


RDV
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birt

Quote from: zeta55I built that preamp from Rod Elliot's site. It's nice and clean with a good tone controll.

Quote from: RDVHere's one that I pretty much copied off of Rod Elliot's site. I simplified it for my needs. The one I came up with myself distorts a whole bunch, so I thought I'd try his design minus the distortion elements to see if it's a nice clean sound. I'm working way too much to get to this anytime soon. It would probably work better on 15v+/- than 9.


RDV

and what do you use it for?
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zeta55

I use it to drive an old integrated 50W amp that drives an old ampeg 4 x 10 . I'm realy pleased with it.
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