The Ultimate Stompswitch- if only...

Started by DougH, August 15, 2008, 08:24:24 PM

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DougH

I think I found the ultimate mechanical stompswitch today- if only it was DPDT. I think it was SPDT...

I was at the surplus store today and they had a bunch of automotive dimmer switches. Talk about something that was meant to take a beating from your foot... And they had this really nice and smooth switch action... Very cool. If only they had another pole...

They look kind of like this:



"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."

Processaurus

I agree, they have a real smooth action.  My band's econoline has one of those, I think, and I think I've been driving after shows and felt eerily like I'm stomping pedals, when it's time to kick the lights into overdrive.

frank_p


My parents had big Dodge vans when I was kid.  We used to tour in the US every summers for three months.  I remember those switches very well.

I like those industrial Hercules Linemasters, they had some in the iron mining industries where I worked:









RLBJR65

My first car, a 1970 Maverick had one of those dimmer switches. They are defiantly tough; the switch outlasted the cars floor board :icon_lol:
Richard Boop

DougH

We had a switch like that in our '65 Galaxie 500 when I was a kid. I googled and checked the parts places like JC Whitney but they all seem to be SPDT.
"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."

iaresee

SPST is all you need though! Really you could get away with a momentary SPST. And still have a true bypass setup. It's a little more work than using a 3PDT switch but not impossible. Check out: http://www.geocities.com/thetonegod/switches/switches.html

frank_p

Quote from: iaresee on August 17, 2008, 09:47:42 AM
SPST is all you need though! Really you could get away with a momentary SPST. And still have a true bypass setup. It's a little more work than using a 3PDT switch but not impossible. Check out: http://www.geocities.com/thetonegod/switches/switches.html

Really appreciated piece of info, thanks Ian and Andrew.

Barcode80

you also could do a cmos switching arrangement a la geofex...

frank_p

Quote from: Barcode80 on August 17, 2008, 02:28:44 PM
you also could do a cmos switching arrangement a la geofex...

Gonna check that out.  A little extra work is never bad when learning.  :D


frank_p

Quote from: Barcode80 on August 17, 2008, 02:28:44 PM
you also could do a cmos switching arrangement a la geofex...

Is that on the page named :  Programmable FX Switcher with Amp Controls
At the end of the page: with cmos switching and relays ?
That is a good thing I bought 10 small relays 2 days ago !  :)

Barcode80

Quote from: frank_p on August 17, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: Barcode80 on August 17, 2008, 02:28:44 PM
you also could do a cmos switching arrangement a la geofex...

Is that on the page named :  Programmable FX Switcher with Amp Controls
At the end of the page: with cmos switching and relays ?
That is a good thing I bought 10 small relays 2 days ago !  :)
i believe so, yes. i think he calls it the millenium c.

frank_p


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DougH

Yeah, you could certainly use it for electronic or electromechanical switching but most people won't go to the trouble.
"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."

R.G.

Another thing that works for ...DURABLE... switches is to make any mechanical arrangement for incredibly durable limited movement, like a pivoted pedal that bottoms on a flat surface somehow. Then drill a hole through it and mount a microswitch (or several of them, they are built to gang together) so the pedal movement just operates them when it's at full travel.

Substantially all problems with switches are mechanical ones.
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

frank_p

Quote from: Barcode80 on August 17, 2008, 11:01:50 PM
i believe so, yes. i think he calls it the millenium c.

LOL  LOL  LOL

R.G.'s site is like the labyrinth of the minautor.
I don't know how many texts about switching are there.  :D

And I wonder how many young noob are dead in Geo's labyrinth:
http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/Minotaur.html

Quote from: R.G. on August 18, 2008, 11:04:17 AM
Substantially all problems with switches are mechanical ones.

:icon_mrgreen:  One of my teatchers was saying:
Substantially all problems are mechanical ones;
when you calculate something about mechanics, you're most of the time 40% away from reality. Thus, don't lose your time in ME, go in EE...

Talking of that and poping switches, it makes me think of of Karl POPPER .  :D
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/popper/

Being an expert of "logic", maybe he could help us...


Barcode80


frank_p


composition4

Quote from: R.G. on August 18, 2008, 11:04:17 AM
Another thing that works for ...DURABLE... switches is to make any mechanical arrangement for incredibly durable limited movement, like a pivoted pedal that bottoms on a flat surface somehow. Then drill a hole through it and mount a microswitch (or several of them, they are built to gang together) so the pedal movement just operates them when it's at full travel.

Substantially all problems with switches are mechanical ones.

There was another thread where someone wanted to gang microswitches. I've only ever seen momentary ones though. Do you (or does anyone else) know of a source for latching (alternate-action) microswitches?  Do these even exist? It's an idea that I think has merit

Jonathan

soggybag

Why not just bolt two or three of these switches side by side. You could easily step on them at the same time.