Geofex parametric EQ "Q" question

Started by Heemis, July 08, 2009, 02:27:45 PM

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Heemis

So I'm looking at the schematic for the parametric EQ circuit at geofex... the article is very enlightening!  I just have one question that the page doesn't answer.  I'm interested in knowing the maximum and minimum Q values for this circuit:  http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/EQs/parmet.gif

If anyone knows, or could even just tell me how to calculate the Q I would really appreciate it!

fuzzo

http://www.muzique.com/lab/gyrator.htm

you can see the Q value but I don't know what that value means.


Heemis

Thanks very much for the reply... I've punched in the values in the calc, and I'm finding as the resistance of R1 changes to alter the frequency, the Q also changes... this would make this circuit a bit less useful for me.  Anyone have any ideas as to how to avoid this?  I'm basically looking for a notch filter with variable boost/cut, frequency, and Q controls, where the Q doesn't change as frequency changes.

jacobyjd

Perhaps you could use a dual-ganged pot to counteract the change in Q as you change the frequency. This would keep the Q 'centered' on the setting that your Q control pot would be set to. Maybe.
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Heemis

Thanks for all the ideas guys... I'm still not so sure if i'm going to get this circuit to do what I want.  Anyone have any ideas/links to similar circuits that will have a constant Q over change in frequency?

Heemis

Just a friendly bump for more info.

fuzzo

Isn't really about "Q" but what's the gain of the final AOP stage (the one you mix dry signal/inductor) ? I wonder if I need to put a volume control or not at the end (I'm working on a Overdrive +  EQ project)

Heemis

The gain of the final amplification stage could be tweaked by the 2k7 resistor from - in to out... I am assuming the circuit will be at unity gain if the EQs boost/cuts controls are left flat, is this correct?

fuzzo

If I don't say mistakes, the gain depends of the position of cut/boost pot that increase or reduce (with 2K7 resitor placed before it). So, with the cut/boost to 10K , we've 12.7/2.7 = 0.21 and with the pot at min we've (2.7/2.7) 1. So any boost at the end, and even a lower signal.

But it's little weird, I think I'm wrong or I forgot something else. ???

Heemis

Well, the two 10k pots are in parallel, so that changes the total resistance.  it's not actually 12.7 k with the both at full resistance.  Also, the signal feeds into both the + and - inputs of the op amp... I don't know how this effects the gain, but it seems like it would... can anyone shed some light?

Heemis

Still haven't been able to figure this out... any Q wizards out there?

Lurco

Quote from: Heemis on July 15, 2009, 09:52:46 AM
Still haven't been able to figure this out... any Q wizards out there?

RANE