Here is another possible build "environment". I have defined something that I think is manufacturable and usable, and I am asking for feedback--especially from the engineers here. I'm detailing the path I took, partly to get my own thoughts straight and partly because I figure that the considerations would be interesting to other people who build.
I decided that I wanted something more the size of a BB enclosure that would fit more complex builds, but I wanted to avoid breaking the bank the way another casting might. So I knew from the beginning that this one would be folded sheet metal.
To come up with a prototype for size and shape, I worked the same way I did for #1; using a cutoff wheel, I hacked up a cast enclosure, in this case a 125-BB, and put it back together with Bondo. That gave me a model that I could send to a factory. Their first cut was a two-piece arrangement in 1.2 mm aluminum with cutout for a battery drawer:
(http://diy.smallbearelec.com/Projects/BearsMuff/Proto1.jpg)
My first thought on holding the piece was that the metal was too thin. I am sure that you've all seen sheetmetal boxes that have been stoved in; I wanted to avoid those complaints, so I asked for a heavier gauge. Given my experience with #1, I also wanted studs to secure a board to be physically part of the base. I showed them what I needed by
gluing down standoffs. To my pleasant surprise, they did the next proto with studs riveted in place:
(http://diy.smallbearelec.com/Projects/BearsMuff/Proto2.jpg)
At this point, I decided to build. My original plan was to use 9 mm board-mounted pots and board-mounted jacks, and I built a BMP with that idea. I made it to work, but ultimately decided that the board-mount components would likely introduce more repair problems than the assembly convenience could justify. Time to re-think.
I realized that I could go with solder-term pots and Molex connectors if I hacked up the top plate and cut down the height of the standoffs. So I re-designed the board layout (Thanks again, Bancika!) and built again. I had one "Oh S+%*!" moment when I could not get the pot section plate on because the vertical connectors in front were too tall. Change to horizontal Molex...fixed. I'm especially pleased with the power and signal routing, as it leaves tons of room for circuitry. Five pots can be accommodated easily if you use 12mm.
(http://diy.smallbearelec.com/Projects/BearsMuff/Proto3.jpg)
I think that I will want the end of of the potentiometer plate that contacts the cover to go inward and angle up so as to keep dust out. Does that make sense?
This works nicely, for Me. I'm happy with the mechanical design, and it sounds suitably monstrous. Now for the $64 question: If I build it this way, will they come? I think maybe I was too prescriptive with the internal design of #1; maybe I want to get #2 made completely un-tooled and let other builders figure out how they want the inside to be provisioned. Minimum order is 500 pieces, so if I get enough call for a particular iteration, it can be done.
Comments?
To me, the appeal of the Bare Box (which I haven't used) is getting the knobs out of the way when stomping. The battery door is nice, too, but no one I personally know uses batteries enough to base a buying decision on that.
I wouldn't use this box as shown in the bottom picture because I prefer board mounted pots. I can't really see a way of doing that without negating the usefulness of the studs and/or the split top.
I'm also wary of the three piece version in general, since as far as I can tell each of the top pieces is only secured on one side when assembled. Am I looking at it wrong? It looks to me like the top screws into the bottom but isn't supported by the sides. I'd be afraid to stomp that piece that holds the switch for fear of flexing the piece or breaking the screws.
I would consider using the two piece version of this box that was wide open inside like the top picture, but it would depend on the circuit design. With board mounted pots I try to avoid having all the pots at one end of the PCB with the weight of the components at the other end, so the more components and space a circuit required the less adequate I would find the space provided for pots.
How's the finish on the bottom? Any pieces or screw heads that stick out or scratch floors? The folded sheet metal enclosures I've seen (admittedly not many) all included rubber feet rather than having recessed screws like cast enclosures.
I think that overall, the way I prefer to build would largely negate the advantages of this box. Thinking about it a little more, what would appeal to me more isn't a small recessed area for knobs but instead a small elevated area for the stomp switch, though that looks pretty ridiculous in my imagination.
Anyway, thanks for working to come up with better enclosures. Hammonds and their clones are nice, but I'm getting sick of stomping on my knobs. Good luck!
Hey Steve,
I salute your diligence in coming up with new enclosure design ideas.
I feel the DIY pedal building community could use/is missing:
Sloped enclosures of varying sizes, similar to the old EHX boxes.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=69070.0;prev_next=prev
These are not available...I have searched extensively.
Larger/jumbo sizes would be welcome as well. When the community was working on Brian's (moosapotamus) ADA Flanger clone..there was no suitable enclosure available. These builds were housed in various enclosures that worked physically but didn't look too good esthetically.
I have a long list of big box builds that could use larger sloped enclosures. Mutron Bi-Phase, Quadra Phaser, ADA STD-1, etc.
Hey Steve, 25 year engineer here. I think you might do well with a folded metal box, especially if the price point is right (obviously). Some of the other folded boxes I've seen around here were inspiring.
My comments:
I love LOVE the idea of a recessed area for the knobs. I'm a gigging musician, and things can get a little crazy on stage (or even in the rehearsal space), so I like my pedals to be rugged. Recessed knobs help in this area. I'd obviously want a somewhat heavier gauge sheet metal as well, to avoid buckling as you've mentioned.
Your pics are a bit hard to understand - can you provide some shots from the side and from various angles?
That said, I think I like the top pictures better. The last pics show a three piece design (I think?) - I don't think I like that. Keep it simple, make it two piece.
I personally have no use for the battery door. Eliminate it to help keep costs down. In fact keep the entire box "blank". The user gets to decide where all holes go.
Forget the standoffs. Most builders don't even use them anyway, so again, you're just adding cost there. If the user wants to install standoffs, they can, in the locations they prefer. Don't decide that for them.
DO install PEM nuts for the four screws that hold the enclosure together. Probably goes without saying, but you don't want to be forced to use pointy sheet metal screws here.
Overall, don't overthink the layout. Don't worry about whether the user is going to use board mounted pots, molex connectors, etc. We're a smart bunch, we'll figure it out :-) The hard part for us is folding sheet metal. You provide the folded box with recessed area for knobs & the closure hardware, we'll figure out the rest.
Miscellaneous thought:
One of the beauties of this type of box is that the width is somewhat scaleable. Once a sheet metal press is set up to bend the top, it's easy to run, say, three different widths on the same setup - again, this can cut costs for you, while allowing you to offer three different width boxes. Like small, medium, and large sizes. Maybe in 3", 4.5", and 6" widths, for example.
Look for posts by Micfarlow77 - he was making some killer sheet metal boxes at one point, but I'm afraid the pics may be gone due to web rot. They were simple, elegant boxes.
Quote from: jefe on March 11, 2015, 08:52:52 AM
DO install PEM nuts for the four screws that hold the enclosure together.
I have noticed that sheetmetal screws strip out after a few assembly cycles. Will ask for this. Thanks for the suggestion!
So far, I'm hearing that two-piece construction would be preferred. As has been noted, this forces the use of board-mounted pots. But maybe that is not a bad thing.
Quote from: jefe on March 11, 2015, 09:04:52 AM
Look for posts by Micfarlow77 - he was making some killer sheet metal boxes at one point, but I'm afraid the pics may be gone due to web rot. They were simple, elegant boxes.
I saw his boxes in the link that I posted but...he hasn't been active on this site in over a year.
Quote from: smallbearelec on March 11, 2015, 09:08:08 AMI have noticed that sheetmetal screws strip out after a few assembly cycles. Will ask for this. Thanks for the suggestion!
You're welcome! Glad I could help in some small way.
QuoteSo far, I'm hearing that two-piece construction would be preferred. As has been noted, this forces the use of board-mounted pots. But maybe that is not a bad thing.
I'm not sure why this forces the use of board-mounted pots. I've built pedals in to some pretty weird boxes, and in tight places, and I have never once had to use board mounted pots. Again, and please don't take offense - You may be overthinking the way in which we use these enclosures, and our design & layout abilities.
Quote from: armdnrdy on March 11, 2015, 09:12:05 AMI saw his boxes in the link that I posted but...he hasn't been active on this site in over a year.
Yeah, I think he was building those boxes back in '07, and he didn't build many of them, so they're basically ancient history at this point. But if you can find any pics of his boxes, they make a good starting point if you're trying to design something new.
Quote from: jefe on March 11, 2015, 09:45:47 AM
I'm not sure why this forces the use of board-mounted pots. I've built pedals in to some pretty weird boxes, and in tight places, and I have never once had to use board mounted pots...You may be overthinking the way in which we use these enclosures, and our design & layout abilities.
Entirely possible.
what are the pots mounting on in this pic?
(http://diy.smallbearelec.com/Projects/BearsMuff/Proto3.jpg)
I'd be inclined to fit a U shaped sub-panel over the molex conns to mount the pots, then drill smaller holes through the top panel. maybe it would be possible to arrange the sub to flip up/out, if it was screwed thu the side panels. (I use sub-panels on eveything tho.)
I'm a fan of the mounted pillars, as low as practicable. they could be adaptor-ed to fit smaller boards etc.
Quote from: duck_arse on March 11, 2015, 10:20:28 AM
what are the pots mounting on in this pic?
I'd be inclined to fit a U shaped sub-panel over the molex conns to mount the pots, then drill smaller holes through the top panel. maybe it would be possible to arrange the sub to flip up/out, if it was screwed thu the side panels. (I use sub-panels on eveything tho.)
I hacked the top plate at the bend so that the top is two pieces. If I were to get it made this way, I figured that I'd have the two pieces interlock to keep dust out. The sub-panel idea might work if the pot shafts were slightly longer.
I like but I would prefer that the board mounts/standoffs be included but not attached. I would prefer to place them myself since my boards vary in size.
Does anybody remember the pedalenclosures boxes? I think those were exactly what you are trying to achieve here. Raised stomps and easy access to the pots/switches.
Something like this:
(http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww345/mjcyates/pedals001-2.jpg)
If I could find these in the correct size needed for some bigger builds.... I'd be ALL OVER them. ;)
Quote from: armdnrdy on March 11, 2015, 08:32:10 AM
I salute your diligence in coming up with new enclosure design ideas.
I feel the DIY pedal building community could use/is missing:
Sloped enclosures of varying sizes, similar to the old EHX boxes.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=69070.0;prev_next=prev
These are not available...I have searched extensively.
Larger/jumbo sizes would be welcome as well. When the community was working on Brian's (moosapotamus) ADA Flanger clone..there was no suitable enclosure available. These builds were housed in various enclosures that worked physically but didn't look too good esthetically.
There are several different sizes of folded enclosures on eBay.
There are several different sizes shapes available on this forum as well including two different options for Big Muff boxes.
I do not recall seeing anyone selling large folded enclosures on this forum.
I have checked ebay and have performed several extensive searches on the net...and have drawn a blank.
Do you have the links for any of these?
Edit:
Mac Walker just PM'd me about his enclosures.
I contacted him some time ago to see if he could make any larger folded enclosures. I need a few 8" X 6" for some of the projects I have worked out.
I'm currently working on a Final Phase build and Macs largest "double wide" enclosure might work for that.
Quote from: armdnrdy on March 12, 2015, 11:20:20 PM
I do not recall seeing anyone selling large folded enclosures on this forum.
The search function is your friend. There are others on this site and eBay.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=107121.msg971629#msg971629
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=106728.0
Quote from: Arcane Analog on March 14, 2015, 09:36:59 PM
Quote from: armdnrdy on March 12, 2015, 11:20:20 PM
I do not recall seeing anyone selling large folded enclosures on this forum.
The search function is your friend. There are others on this site and eBay.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=107121.msg971629#msg971629
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=106728.0
Thank you for the links but...maybe my request was arcane.
If you look through my posts in this thread...you will clearly see that the projects I need to house will not fit in any of the enclosures you linked.
Oh and....I do know how to use the search function....probably better than most. I usually research everything before I ever post a question or request. ;)
Quote from: armdnrdy on March 14, 2015, 10:50:21 PM
Thank you for the links but...maybe my request was arcane.
If you look through my posts in this thread...you will clearly see that the projects I need to house will not fit in any of the enclosures you linked.
Oh and....I do know how to use the search function....probably better than most. I usually research everything before I ever post a question or request. ;)
I responded to your post in this thread. The links I provided are exactly what you described as directly quoted below and were easily found with a search.
Quote from: armdnrdy on March 11, 2015, 08:32:10 AM
Sloped enclosures of varying sizes, similar to the old EHX boxes.
These are not available...I have searched extensively.
Larger/jumbo sizes would be welcome as well.
You have a 125B, 125BB and full 70s Muff sized box here as options.
Quote from: DavidGiandiletti on May 03, 2014, 06:58:29 PM
Finished up a run of sloped enclosures 125B and 1590BB size. They are both slightly wider than the cast aluminum boxes since i needed to make room for the flange that the screws mount to. Any projects that are meant for the cast aluminum boxes should fit in these just fine.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/davidgiandiletti/image.jpeg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/davidgiandiletti/media/image.jpeg.html)
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/davidgiandiletti/image_2.jpeg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/davidgiandiletti/media/image_2.jpeg.html)
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/davidgiandiletti/image_3.jpeg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/davidgiandiletti/media/image_3.jpeg.html)
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/davidgiandiletti/image_4.jpeg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/davidgiandiletti/media/image_4.jpeg.html)
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/davidgiandiletti/image_5.jpeg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/davidgiandiletti/media/image_5.jpeg.html)
I also have some Muff enclosures left for sale as well.
Thanks!
Quote from: DavidGiandiletti on March 29, 2014, 09:06:01 PM
I just finished my first small batch of enclosures!
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/davidgiandiletti/photo1.jpg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/davidgiandiletti/media/photo1.jpg.html)
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/davidgiandiletti/photo2.jpg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/davidgiandiletti/media/photo2.jpg.html)
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/davidgiandiletti/photo4.jpg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/davidgiandiletti/media/photo4.jpg.html)
Quote from: armdnrdy on March 12, 2015, 11:20:20 PM
Mac Walker just PM'd me about his enclosures.
I contacted him some time ago to see if he could make any larger folded enclosures. I need a few 8" X 6" for some of the projects I have worked out.
I'm currently working on a Final Phase build and Macs largest "double wide" enclosure might work for that.
Mac's double wide is 5.5". The Big Muff enclosure I posted is also 5.5" and is longer.
I typed "sloped enclosure" into eBay's search feature. These have been available for several years. Hammond and several other manufacturers all make something similar with or without vents. If you cannot fit your circuits in these boxes at 6", 8" and 9.6" you are doing it wrong.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SE853N-8-Aluminum-Pedal-Enclosure-Sloped-Instrument-Console-Case-/261536102303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ce4c4379f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SF662-FULL-Aluminum-Pedal-Sloped-Instrument-Console-Enclosure-Case-Box-for-DIY-/261717650307?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cef966b83
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SF1083-FULL-Aluminum-Pedal-Enclosure-Sloped-Instrument-Console-case-for-DIY-/261284491912?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd5c4f288
Strike two!
Maybe you should go back and read my post....Here...I'll help you.
Reply #2
"Sloped enclosures of varying sizes, similar to the old EHX boxes"
"Larger/jumbo sizes would be welcome as well"
"I have a long list of big box builds that could use larger sloped enclosures. Mutron Bi-Phase, Quadra Phaser, ADA STD-1, etc."
The enclosures you linked are not similar to the old EXH boxes. They have the flat area at the back of the box that I have no use for. This flat area will impede the mounting of controls.
I have known of this style enclosure since the 70s. LMB Heeger style.
I am looking for exactly what I stated...."larger sloped enclosures, similar to the old EHX boxes.
I'll explain in detail so you understand.
For someone who specializes in making fuzz boxes, a Big Muff sized box is a large enclosure.
I don't really care for making fifty variations of the same circuit...fuzz boxes bore me!
If you are at all familiar with the effects that I listed, (Mutron Bi-Phase, Quadra Phaser, ADA STD-1) they are all large circuits with the STD-1 being a full size rack unit.
The folded enclosures that you posted can't really be considered "larger"...or "jumbo." They are way too small.
Now let's get a bit personal.
I appreciate the help...really....but....I do not appreciate the attitude and condescending tone of your replies.
I don't think that anyone on this site needs to be talked down to. This is not that type of forum.
If this is the only way you know how to help people...maybe you should take a breath...and left click back to another topic.
There is no need to reply to this...in fact....your reply would not be welcome. Let's end your "help" here.
Quote from: armdnrdy on March 11, 2015, 08:32:10 AM
Hey Steve,
I salute your diligence in coming up with new enclosure design ideas.
I feel the DIY pedal building community could use/is missing:
Sloped enclosures of varying sizes, similar to the old EHX boxes.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=69070.0;prev_next=prev
These are not available...I have searched extensively.
Larger/jumbo sizes would be welcome as well.
I quoted you directly and gave you options for exactly what you asked for - multiple sizes of old EHX boxes for the DIY community. Three to be exact. You did not actually specify dimensions or circuits for these sloped EHX boxes the DIY community is (not really) lacking.
You then added larger jumbo boxes as an "as well" in the next paragraph as an addition to the sloped EHX boxes.
If you cannot make those 9.6" boxes work you need to go back to the drawing board and learn how to make a layout.
Good luck.
Sorry for the derail, Steve.
It upsets me a bit when good people here get each other's noses out of joint. To all who responded: Thanks! You have given me good direction for what to ask for:
- 2mm aluminum
- Two-piece construction with "well"
- No standoffs
- No drilling or cutout
I have asked for a quote and will get this done if, as I expect, the cost is anything like reasonable. I will advise when I have an estimated delivery date. If this basic style/size sells well, I'll consider getting tricked-out and drilled boxes made for stock. Now that I think about it, the 500-piece MOQ allows me to get a custom run made for any shop that wants a particular configuration and can fund an order. Let's see what the basic price comes out to.
Regards
SD
Great stuff Steve.
Can't wait to see the results
So I got this made completely undrilled and with collars in the screw holes so that the threads won't strip out.
(http://diy.smallbearelec.com/Projects/BearsMuff/BareBoxSide.jpg)
I figured that some people would want to put the stomper where I had the pots, so I drilled a hole and tested. A standard blue 3PDT is too tall, but an Alpha DPDT will fit and you put an LED driver circuit on the board. A momentary soft-touch with relay or FET switching would also fly. There's a lot of room for complex builds.
I will have pieces to sell in eight weeks or so, retail for small quantities $11.95.
In stock now. After figuring freight, duty and NYC taxes, I have to ask $12.95 in small quantities. Thanks to all who offered suggestions for the design.
Regards
SD
Quote from: Arcane Analog on March 15, 2015, 09:21:57 AM
Quote from: armdnrdy on March 12, 2015, 11:20:20 PM
Mac Walker just PM'd me about his enclosures.
I contacted him some time ago to see if he could make any larger folded enclosures. I need a few 8" X 6" for some of the projects I have worked out.
I'm currently working on a Final Phase build and Macs largest "double wide" enclosure might work for that.
Mac's double wide is 5.5". The Big Muff enclosure I posted is also 5.5" and is longer.
I typed "sloped enclosure" into eBay's search feature. These have been available for several years. Hammond and several other manufacturers all make something similar with or without vents. If you cannot fit your circuits in these boxes at 6", 8" and 9.6" you are doing it wrong.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SE853N-8-Aluminum-Pedal-Enclosure-Sloped-Instrument-Console-Case-/261536102303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ce4c4379f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SF662-FULL-Aluminum-Pedal-Sloped-Instrument-Console-Enclosure-Case-Box-for-DIY-/261717650307?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cef966b83
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SF1083-FULL-Aluminum-Pedal-Enclosure-Sloped-Instrument-Console-case-for-DIY-/261284491912?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd5c4f288
I used one of Chinese aluminium sloped jobs (SF662) for my Klipper project. While the final product was esthetically pleasing, the metal's gauge, and the fact that the top piece's only stiffness or support comes from the fact that it's bent, doesn't really make it robust enough for any intense stompbox usage. It's perfectly fine for use in my studio, or for table top projects, but that's about it. If the top overlapped the sides, that would help a bit. Screws securing the two a la BMP is better. Screws and stainless steel = best.
Quote from: smallbearelec on July 06, 2015, 11:37:33 PM
In stock now. After figuring freight, duty and NYC taxes, I have to ask $12.95 in small quantities. Thanks to all who offered suggestions for the design.
Regards
SD
That's awesome, and I hope to grab a couple for myself! Where are you gonna find a box of that quality with that much thought put into it for that PRICE?? Nowhere - I want some! :)
Steve very generously sent me a BB2 (Thanks! :icon_biggrin:)
While the photo here gives a good idea of the box on its own, I thought I'd take a few snaps of the BB2 in comparison with a better-known quantity - a 1590BB - so that folks might find it easier to think about the particular advantages that it might (or may not) provide them.
The first photo sort of distorts the size, but I'll vouch that the BB2 has a slightly larger footprint than a 1590BB. Despite what the photo suggests, it is exactly the same width.
Lined up, you can see that it sticks out a bit farther "in front". And as Steve's earlier picture illustrates, it is tall enough on the front lip to accommodate virtually any stomp switch. I'll supplement that by noting that two side-by-side stomps are easily accommodated. The second switch could be for another effect, an added boost, a tap tempo, a loop selector, modulation on/off, ramp up/down, speed A/B, etc.
The side views indicate that the extra height will allow it to accommodate a lot of things. If you absolutely need to power it with a pair of 9vs, it has plenty of room for that. If you need to stack two boards with spacers, it can do that (which the BB1 can also do, I might add). If the project requires use of space-hogging rotary switches, you've also got room for them and a full-sized board underneath as well. And, of course, if you feel compelled to make something with one or more tubes, the fact that it is aluminum, and the rear part taller (but not too tall) means you have room to mount the tubes either sideways, or vertically with not too much poking out. And the use of aluminum means that machining to accommodate tubes will not be arduous.
Finally, while it doesn't have the same built-like-a-tank feel of the folded steel boxes that Full-tone and Truetone are using, the gauge of aluminum feels very sturdy, and you're not carting around the weight that comes with steel.
Disadvantages? Well, you can always turn a 1590BB 90 degrees and have the long side facing you, while the front, sides and rear of the BB2 are essentially identified for you. On the other hand, A person could rotate it 180 degrees and build a sweet little mixer with 9mm pots, and using the area we'd normally put our stompswitches in for in/out jacks. So I'll say the sides are committed but the front and back less so. Of course, one of the reasons a person would usually rotate a 1590BB to have the long side facing you is to accommodate space for another stompswitch, and space for additional controls. As it turns out, the additional switch area on the BB2 allows you to do that without needing to rotate it. So the rotatability turns into an aesthetic choice rather than a design limitation.
I look forward to building something into it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mhammer/IMG_20150711_112815_zpshaxsgrsg.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mhammer/IMG_20150711_112905_zpsof66hm8l.jpg)
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I just finished up at Summer NAMM in Nashville. I have shown this version to some boutiquers, and a few said "Yea, I can use this." So maybe this is the next "I gotta have one" enclosure. If it takes hold, I'll be very pleased; if it becomes another niche item, too bad, but it won't have broken the bank.
Hey Steve, you should having said something before. I live an hour away from Nashville. In fact I was just there this last Tuesday. Arrived there from our trip to adopt our son. Not sure when NAMM was; we might have been gone then. We were gone the 16 days prior to Tuesday.
Apologies. Usually, I do post notice when I will be in a place so that I can visit with local DIYers. In this case, I needed to do a quick in-and-out in order to see a small number of commercial customers--the people whose large orders make it possible to support the DIY community. I might not have gone at all had the boat with the Bare Box #2 been delayed; having that to show really made the trip worthwhile. I will remember to come earlier next year.
I was one of the exhibitors at SNAMM (www.tributeaudiodesigns.com (http://www.tributeaudiodesigns.com)) and was very honoured to meet Steve in person. Steve showed a few of us the new enclosure, and I must say - it looks and more importantly feels really nice. It is nice to have another option to hammond boxes, etc for special customs.
I hope you don't mind me posting this Steve - it made my day (photobomb courtesy of Cameltone Electronics https://www.facebook.com/cameltoneelectronics (https://www.facebook.com/cameltoneelectronics)):
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B6oeC00sgURrU1RzVXd2RWZuWGM)
Quote from: smallbearelec on July 12, 2015, 11:58:05 AM
Apologies. Usually, I do post notice when I will be in a place so that I can visit with local DIYers. In this case, I needed to do a quick in-and-out in order to see a small number of commercial customers--the people whose large orders make it possible to support the DIY community. I might not have gone at all had the boat with the Bare Box #2 been delayed; having that to show really made the trip worthwhile. I will remember to come earlier next year.
Ahh, it's cool. I have been extremely busy latelty as you might expect. Wouldn't have been much of a host probably. Maybe next time![emoji6]
The trick is to have a dog. Steve can NOT resist a dog. It could be any of these below, and as much as you kept looking at your watch and pointing to it, Steve would still be squatted down, talking to it and petting it like it was the most precious thing in the world. Just one more thing you gotta love about the guy!
(http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a97635_sam2.jpg)
(https://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/71285937.jpg?w=480&h=320&crop=1)
(http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/2011/06/ugly_adp4.jpg)
(http://motleydogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Ugliest-dog-01.jpg)
Those are really dogs? Sweet Mother of God! I thought some unknown species of demons had been discovered. The brindel in the last pic looked like Cerberus guarding the gates of Hades.
I think each of them won the title of "world's ugliest dog" at one point or other.
I think that last one is a breed of wooly frog.
A frog dog!
Speaking of "evolution of another creature!" :icon_lol:
Quote from: Mark Hammer on July 13, 2015, 09:09:00 PM
I think each of them won the title of "world's ugliest dog" at one point or other.
"World's ugliest
anything", I think... :P
Not exactly what you are looking for as far as feedback, but have you looked at picking up the designs from pedalenclosures.com? Those were some great boxes. The YY and the "one" we're not folded metal, but they were great enclosures. I'm sure those would sell if you could make them.
well I can see jerry stiller in the last pic, but where's the dog?
Just ordered a whole mess of supplies from SB, including the BB#2, which is going to house a GGG Brassmaster. Gotta decide if I'm going to keep the box named, or get it powder coated of etched.
Quote from: digi2t on July 07, 2015, 06:48:13 AM
I used one of Chinese aluminium sloped jobs (SF662) for my Klipper project. While the final product was esthetically pleasing, the metal's gauge, and the fact that the top piece's only stiffness or support comes from the fact that it's bent, doesn't really make it robust enough for any intense stompbox usage. It's perfectly fine for use in my studio, or for table top projects, but that's about it. If the top overlapped the sides, that would help a bit. Screws securing the two a la BMP is better. Screws and stainless steel = best.
Awesome. Thanks for the review.