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Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: jimbob on November 11, 2003, 07:45:10 PM
Im building a tube screamer and plan to make a few extra w differences---the more the better i say--its art and functionality for me-, anyway, I want to build a pedal that is more like a thrash/metal type--must have variety to stay sane :lol:  Does anyone have any opinions about what to build for this? I have many now and still not satisfied--i dont want to buy one..I have faith in the DIY.  Ive heard the Sonic Dist is heavy? All opinions welcome.
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: brett on November 11, 2003, 08:37:50 PM
The sans amp GT2 offers lots of over-the-top distortion.  But it's a pain to build.  If you're keen, you could "cut" the high-gain, marshall option out of it.
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: difedetry on November 11, 2003, 09:04:15 PM
I think the Sansamp is the better option. It's difficult to make it
specially if you aren't very patience, but it really worth. This
distortion is the one to me  :D IMHO
Maybe you could try the BOSS DS-1, it's a nice distiortion
too...

cya  :wink:

» Diego
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: RDV on November 11, 2003, 09:14:40 PM
People are forgeting Aron's stuff, a lot of which gets really heavy, like the Shakka Express. Also Joe Davisson's stuff is all HEAVY.

Regards

RDV
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: Marcos - Munky on November 12, 2003, 09:39:54 AM
The Joe Davisson's Obsidian (any version) is perfect for heavy music. Some Aron's effects too (the Insanity Box sounds really cool). In schematics 2 you will find a DS-1 modded by Howie. Is better to look for diy effects than the commercial ones, you will find a lot of things that you don't find in commercial effects.
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: D Wagner on November 12, 2003, 12:06:20 PM
If you have already started the TS build, check out Robert Keeley's baked TS mod.  It gives three times the normal TS "distortion".  He describes the mod in detail here:

http://www.robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=4

That could help with your need for dirt.  

Also, check out Jack Orman's mod for flat mid's.  http://www.muzique.com/lab/fatt.htm

Hope this helps,

Derek
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: Ansil on November 12, 2003, 02:39:58 PM
not to toot my own horn but i dont' make anything thats tame...  not even my lpb1 is safe from distortion.. lol  heres a couple of ideas  though

http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/diablo.htm
a couple of new circuits.

http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/eggstacy.htm

this is the home of the Jfet dualrectifier red channel  
j fet bogner exstacy
tube guvnor, and real tube screamer


http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/386fun.htm

Fun with the lm386 and family. amps, and more.


http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/Roses.htm


http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/bossst9.htm

http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/classical.htm
more 386 style fun


http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/joe.htm

dual hatemachine with more explanation on the brownsound pedal

http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/

my endless quest trying to update my tired page

http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/micpreamp.htm

wah talk funk crazy vocoder scream box

http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/newsnippets.htm

marshall lead 12 clonemod, sqware waver

http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/pcap.htm

cap values of the ilustrious purplexed pretty much the same as a marshall guvnor, but with more balls. also a sqwave to sinewave circuit.



http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/rhandy.htm

awesome distortion pedal just forgot about this one.

http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/sexinverter.htm

fun things to do with a cmos 4049

http://www.geocities.com/austenfantanio/snips.htm

the biggest section of my site is lumped up in here
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: william on November 12, 2003, 06:44:37 PM
Hey ansil, did you ever get around to making the jfet dual rectefier?  If you did, how did it turn out compaired to using tubes?

William
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: Jered on November 13, 2003, 04:45:58 AM
William, you will need to use trimmers for the drain resistors or it will just oscillate out of control. Also the source resistor switching can get redundant, tune each stage as you go for the best sound.
  Jered
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: bwanasonic on November 13, 2003, 06:57:47 AM
I can't give a first hand account, but Mark Hammer's "Chaos" sounds like it might do the trick:

http://hammer.ampage.org/files/Chaos.gif


Kerry M
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: Ansil on November 13, 2003, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: williamHey ansil, did you ever get around to making the jfet dual rectefier?  If you did, how did it turn out compaired to using tubes?

William

I liked it.  not bad..  actually quite usefull  but i still liked the eggstacy better.. to me that would be an awesome pedal, i just need to get a computer download the pcb software  dedicate time to making a  layout and then buy a printer and some pnp and make a board..

unfortuneatly i dont' have the fundage.. if someone wants to make a board for any of these then be my guest.   but like i said i only breadboarded it.
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: idlefaction on November 13, 2003, 02:10:58 PM
dude, buy some copper clad, a sharpie and a bottle of ferrous.  will set you back USD$12.  :)
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: Doug H on November 13, 2003, 02:22:03 PM
[quote="Ansil]
I liked it.  not bad..  actually quite usefull  but i still liked the eggstacy better.. to me that would be an awesome pedal, .[/quote]

Is that the purple one with the "booty" control? I'll have to give that a shot on the breadboard, doesn't look too complicated.

Doug
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: Ansil on November 13, 2003, 02:25:47 PM
yep thats it.  although you do have to check the drains like jered said.  it sounded pretty awesome.   how ya been doug.?
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: Ansil on November 13, 2003, 02:35:09 PM
Quote from: idlefactiondude, buy some copper clad, a sharpie and a bottle of ferrous.  will set you back USD$12.  :)

i tried this, i even had a decent layout made up by hand.. you know the pen and paper routine..   so i bought the copper clad  made the little heat tank to keep warm water heated then put my etching container down in there with the etchant  not touching water..(wanted to make that clear) inda like a double boiler.  anyway i cleaned the board prepped it gave it tender sweet love and drew on it.  finally got over the shakes long enough to do this..!!.  etched it and for 3 hours it didnt' do jack crap!!!!!

so i threw out the old etchant.(not actually thrown away too tedius to explain my method right now).. cut off the heater.. found a cheap 1 dollar generic tupperware container put some more etchant in it and threw the board back in.     in 20minutes i had a board that was awesome.. untill i tried to take off the sharpie..(yes i used a brand name sharpie) when i did this there was very little or no copper underneath.  so i tried to fix it the craig anderton way  "with soldering little pieces of resistor legs where the traces break or are incomplete"  after making a decently lookin solid board i started to drill it..  

needless to say would anyone care to guess how many pieces are inbedded in my wall of my old place..  yep its nice when the drill cracks the board refuses to let go and sends shards of metal (rember teh craig anderton method) and pc board all over the house.


needless to say i haven't  attempted that again.  except for my guvnor..  and i had slightly better results than perfboard.  

another reason why i stick to the 386 less parts.
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: Marcos - Munky on November 13, 2003, 05:53:57 PM
Hey Ansil, when I did my first boards, the same happened. Here is something that will help you, just be shaking the substance when the board was inside of it. You will get a better and faster job.
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: brett on November 13, 2003, 11:09:12 PM
Hey Ansil
you must be one of the least-equiped and poorest LEGENDS out there.
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: Doug H on November 14, 2003, 08:29:46 AM
Ansil, I'm doing great. Thanks for asking. I've got a few new things getting ready to come out of the pipe.

As for building your stuff, PCB headaches, etc: I did the Meteor with perfboard and it wasn't too bad. Pad per hole or the cheapie RS perf stuff, either way, you can do these little "amp simulator" circuits pretty easily with perf. Just take your time and go slow and you'll get there. I got to the point where PCB was driving me up the wall. I see no use for it unless in the future I need to go into heavy production.  In that case I would hire a service to make the boards for me anyway. I'm not fooling with them myself anymore, but that's just me.

Doug
Title: Heavy/Metal/Distortion/ect.. Opinions?
Post by: Ansil on November 14, 2003, 02:59:36 PM
Quote from: brettHey Ansil
you must be one of the least-equiped and poorest LEGENDS out there.


too funny...      i guess you are right though, it has always been guerilla  diying..   either the %^&*roaches would complain in my last house, or my brother,....lol