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DIY Stompboxes => Building your own stompbox => Topic started by: nicksmurf111 on November 19, 2003, 04:58:49 PM

Title: low impedence output buffer
Post by: nicksmurf111 on November 19, 2003, 04:58:49 PM
I have a fuzz face i built a long time ago.  When it is plugged into my yamaha amp it has less highs and is very smooth sounding.  When pluged into a buffered pedal like a ds-1 it sounds more tinny and crackly.  This is because my amp probably has a lower input impedence than the ds-1.  How can I buffer my fuzz face in order to get the same sound I have from plugging it directly into my amp and "load it down".  Most the output buffers found on effects (many people have them on homemade tube screamers) have a high impedence and drive a low impedence line to the next effect or the amp.  What I want to do is load down the output of the fuzz face to get that smoother sound, but still drive the low impedence line.

Any ideas?
- Nick
Title: low impedence output buffer
Post by: Skreddy on November 19, 2003, 06:11:24 PM
Um, change the volume pot to a smaller value?  (e.g. 100k)
Title: low impedence output buffer
Post by: brett on November 19, 2003, 07:28:39 PM
Bridging the output (500k) pot with a low value resistor (10k to 100k) will also load the output of the fuzzface.  But as far as I'm aware, the effect you are describing is not a classic effect of low input impedance.  Low impedance cuts bass, not treble in RC (resistive-capacitive) lines (tho my head is so fuzzy today that you should take this post with a grain of salt).  fc (the half-power, or -3dB frequency) = 1/(2.pi.R.C).  So extra impedance will lower the bass cutoff frequency.

A different situation exists in guitar pickups, where a high impedance load is needed for maintaining high frequencies.  Pickups are inductive sources (but the fuzzface shouldn't present any significant inductance unless you are using a very long, coiled cable).

I hope this helps somehow.
Title: low impedence output buffer
Post by: brett on November 19, 2003, 07:38:03 PM
Almost forgot.  An easy way to trim highs from a ff or any other pedal is to put a simple high pass filter to ground near the output.  In the case of a ff, a 10kA pot in series with a 0.022uF capacitor works very well.  Connect these between the signal line going to the volume pot (e.g. lug 3 of the volume pot) and ground (e.g. lug 1 of the volume pot).  This mod is also described in the Simple mods section of  diystompboxes.com
Title: low impedence output buffer
Post by: nicksmurf111 on November 19, 2003, 08:31:52 PM
So I guess I'll try putting in a 100k volume pot in place of the 500k pot I have in it now (i think it's 500k if not it's 1meg).  I should put a standard buffer after that too, that should keep the sound from changing when I plug it into different things.  I need to figure out how to get away with soldering in a college dormroom, maybe I'll make a workbench in front of the window with a fan, that should do it...