http://www.jeverman.com/thepot.html
hello~
check the archives.. there was a thread that covered this about a month or so..
hth,
Not sure.. I do like the sounds of his octave x though. Not that I would buy anything that I thought i could make myself..Esp a booster.
Quote from: marrstianshttp://www.jeverman.com/thepot.html
not it is a volume control.. no gain boosting.. it is actually limiting your signal like a guitar volume knob
Also a fairly recent thread on the Ampage forum. Everybody complaining that it's a rip, but ya know, a lot of people wouldn't touch a soldering iron with a ten foot pole, but want something like that. They've got to buy things that 'we' can easily build in 30 minutes or less. I consider myself blessed, and so should everyone on this panel.
Regards, Pedal-pals
RDV
is there something similar that anybody has a schem for? is it pretty much just a volume pot with like a bypass cap to keep some of the hi's?
Looks to me like a basic switch, pot [w/highs bypass cap?] and a couple jacks.
There's something in the middle there I can't make out.
Actually no a bad thing to have on a Fuzz box or something, could get the lead boost going using that as a cut for rythm sound.
Nice looking box though. Something about using extra jacks and plugs for just that...would be a good feature for a Fuzz box...extra switch for adjustable cut/boost
do you think this from amz is the answer to ThePot?...
http://www.muzique.com/lab/tips.htm
Prevent Dull Volume Controls - It is sometimes noted that a volume control causes the sound to be "dulled" as it is turned down. This is caused by the series resistance of the pot interacting with the capacitance of the next stage to form a low pass filter and a resulting high frequency loss. To counteract this, a small capacitor is added from the input to the wiper on the volume control. This small value capacitor has a low impedance at high frequencies and provides a bypass around the series resistance of the pot as the volume contyrol is turned down. Some experimentation with the value of the capacitor will be necessary as the amount of boost required depends on the value of the pot and the capacitance of the following stage, but 150pF to 470pF is a good starting range for C1. ////
Quote from: RDVAlso a fairly recent thread on the Ampage forum. Everybody complaining that it's a rip, but ya know, a lot of people wouldn't touch a soldering iron with a ten foot pole, but want something like that. They've got to buy things that 'we' can easily build in 30 minutes or less. I consider myself blessed, and so should everyone on this panel.
Regards, Pedal-pals
RDV
yeah, but it wouldnt be as perty... it would be a rip to me, becasue i have no use for it.
$95 for a volume pot! :shock: Holy crap!
lol
I've thought about building one as well for a long time. I simply love the sound of a high gain sound with the volume on the guitar turned down. This might be something a lot of people are looking for. 95 ain't cheap, but hey... he's gotta make a living and you can easily build one yourself.
Maarten
Yeah but think of the amount of people that can't make one themselves, or don't want to get into DIY! :shock:
Well they either start learning or find someone else to do it. The guy is not a social worker. If the price was absurd he wouldn't sell any. There are other products out that there are way more over the top with their price. They're asking $1.25 for a plectrum over here in the netherlands... talk about overpriced!
Maarten
Quote from: TubefreakWell they either start learning or find someone else to do it. The guy is not a social worker. If the price was absurd he wouldn't sell any. There are other products out that there are way more over the top with their price. They're asking $1.25 for a plectrum over here in the netherlands... talk about overpriced!
Maarten
the copper picks over here were like 10$ for two of them the old hotlicks ones
Hey Maarten if you buy your picks in bulk you get 'em cheap. I buy 50 for 5 euros, or if I buy 1 it's only 50 cents. But then again I've been going to this guys music store for 3 years so maybe that has to do with it...
Quote from: smoguzbenjaminHey Maarten if you buy your picks in bulk you get 'em cheap. I buy 50 for 5 euros, or if I buy 1 it's only 50 cents. But then again I've been going to this guys music store for 3 years so maybe that has to do with it...
hey ben shouldnt' you change your quote to hi my names ben with blue smoke comingout of my soldering iron :D
i've been toying with doing one of these boxes with the passive volume control, but put two switches on it. A regular on/off and a momentary. Momentary could be used for quick lead fills.
not a bad idea there bill i was thinking of doing a tutorial of one of these
Quote from: Ansilnot a bad idea there bill i was thinking of doing a tutorial of one of these
That would be great! :lol:
Quote from: Bill_FQuote from: Ansilnot a bad idea there bill i was thinking of doing a tutorial of one of these
That would be great! :lol:
hey bill did you see my death by audio tutorial??
http://diystompboxes.com/sboxforum/viewtopic.php?t=18135
Quote from: AnsilQuote from: Bill_FQuote from: Ansilnot a bad idea there bill i was thinking of doing a tutorial of one of these
That would be great! :lol:
hey bill did you see my death by audio tutorial??
http://diystompboxes.com/sboxforum/viewtopic.php?t=18135
Yeah, I checked it out. Good stuff. :lol:
Quote from: Bill_Fi've been toying with doing one of these boxes with the passive volume control, but put two switches on it. A regular on/off and a momentary. Momentary could be used for quick lead fills.
http://geocities.com/austenfantanio/newtutoril.htm
Well, that clone of my "THE POT" unit is close
but not correct...values are off and your missing
a componet still......
hmmm.... looks like my "Mr. Clean" device... which came first the chicken or the egg? Haha i'll bet someone else's was first. So much for my great "invention" but it's basically the same thing: passive volume control with a capacitor to bypass highs. Mine is $60.
(http://www.vmsrecords.com/dissolute/mrcleanyellow.gif)
and a sound sample to boot:
(recorded with 100 watt JCM 800 with Gibson Les Paul)
http://www.vmsrecords.com/dissolute/mrclean.mp3
Nevermind the cheesy tune... :oops:
I'd been getting a few custom project requests for pedals such as this
so I decided to put it up on our web page...yes we charge alot for
one....but thats to cover my time, I'd rather be building new cool
effects that are active rather than these passive units. So if I have
to give up R&D time for them then it has to be worth it and be able
to fund my other projects..... The circuit is basically the one you will
find in alot of higher end guitars........
I use a 500k audio taper pot, anywhere from 250-470pF cap, a dpdt true bypass switch, and two jacks. Add a box and that's the total parts count. Yeah $60 or $95 does seem expensive but those parts will cost you about $30 or so, and then add in your time painting and doing the graphics. "the pot" has a higher parts count with the led, lens, and power jack although to the builder's advantage it appears to come in a black anodized hammond box instead of paint and graphics.
I have a terribly drawn schematic but it has the incorrect values and i would feel embarassed posting it here, especially in front of my "competitors" :)
Quote from: smoguzbenjaminYeah but think of the amount of people that can't make one themselves, or don't want to get into DIY! :shock:
This is very true. Remember before you got into this??? For me, I was going to buy a used LBP-1 for about a $100!!!!!
That's where I was.
That's not very far from the volume pot w/treble leak cap.
We are very lucky!
Quote from: aronQuote from: smoguzbenjaminYeah but think of the amount of people that can't make one themselves, or don't want to get into DIY! :shock:
This is very true. Remember before you got into this??? For me, I was going to buy a used LBP-1 for about a $100!!!!!
That's where I was.
That's not very far from the volume pot w/treble leak cap.
We are very lucky!
i wanted to publicly take the time to say thanks to j.everman for being cool about this. some people can be extreme dicks here over the same type of thing. and i did take the time to change the format and state that this wasn't a true clone of his pedal, as with all clones we tend to go our own way and add our own mods to it. like the idea for adding a momentary switch listed for lead fills that is great. also iam updating the article to add the lead switch in there for fills
A few points to ponder:
A treble-leak cap does not function when the pot is set to max. Apparently this one does.
Fender vs. Gibson guitars have different value pots. Typically 250K vs. 500K.
Even if it was a treble-leak, there are more than one version of a treble-leak. A better taper with the treble-leak can be done with an additional resistor. (Hint kinman.com).
Lights take power and power takes additional parts.
etc... etc...
Yeah, that was very cool of Mr J. Everman. I'm not any good at the whole diy pedal building thing myself anyway so when I need to get something that I'm sure will work I'll check your site first to see what's new. I hope you sell (almost) more that you can make.
After some cynical, then realistic discussion on the Ampage effects forum, Everman responded as follows:
1) Some folks want a simple preset passive volume drop.
2) Volume pedals will do this but you have to move your foot to the right position, since the pedal doesn't "remember".
3) An even larger number of folks would probably take their own eye out and those of several others if they ever attempted to do anything as simple as solder up a volume pot.
I doubt whether he would have ever "developed" and marketed this as a pedal on his own because it is just too boneheaded. At the same time, musicians *asked* him for something like this...repeatedly...so he sells it.
I work in human resource management policy/research, and the number of organizations who think they have to hire consultants to teach them how to be fair and decent to employees strikes me as even more baffling than the notion that Everman finds a market for a passive pot in a box with two jacks and a switch. My mom taught me how to be nice. She never taught me how to solder.
Could Jimi have made one for himself? Probably not. Nuff said.
Quote from: Mark HammerAfter some cynical, then realistic discussion on the Ampage effects forum, Everman responded as follows:
I was one of the cynics and I take back everything I said. There is a use for this sort of thing for us who build our own "too hot" amps. A preset for "cooling things down" is a wonderful idea. J's cost justification makes a lot of sense too. Why shouldn't he cover his costs and make it worth his while, when he'd rather be doing more interesting things?
Just goes to show you can't make assumptions based on what you see on the surface. Lesson learned here.
Quote from: Mark Hammer
I work in human resource management policy/research, and the number of organizations who think they have to hire consultants to teach them how to be fair and decent to employees strikes me as even more baffling than the notion that Everman finds a market for a passive pot in a box with two jacks and a switch. My mom taught me how to be nice. She never taught me how to solder.
Even more baffling (and hilarious) is when the upper mgmt declares an edict for a major re-org. Then when all is said and done they spend big bucks on consultants to go around and interview the employees to basically ask them what the hell they think they are supposed to be doing.
("I don't know, this was -your- idea!")
A laugh a minute, I tell ya...
Doug
Quote from: aronA better taper with the treble-leak can be done with an additional resistor.
A 130 ohm resistor in series with the treble-leak cap to be exact. The missing part in Ansil's tutorial??
Regards
RDV
Quote from: Doug HWhy shouldn't he cover his costs and make it worth his while, when he'd rather be doing more interesting things?
Doug
I worked as a free lance graphic artist for quite awhile. On jobs I didn't want to do, I always bid higher than I did on jobs I liked to do. If I lost the bid no big thing, didn't want to do it anyway. If I won the bid, fantastic! I was making good money. Much better per hour than I made on the stuff I liked to do. So I was happy either way.