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Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: Brian Marshall on February 15, 2004, 02:24:18 AM
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I had to sub 22k resistors for the 27k... would that be the problem... also subbed a 2n5088 tranny

i was running it straight in to an amp, and did not use the 2nd transistor.


any help?
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: Tim Escobedo on February 15, 2004, 02:31:14 AM
Haven't tried the actual circuit. But the subbed resistors may be enough to keep it from oscillating. However, it shouldn't be too hard to get a twin-T to oscillate. Maybe eliminate the emitter resistor? Maybe recheck the wiring? Pinout?
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: Boofhead on February 15, 2004, 03:33:47 AM
It should work as is.  Have you used 4.7k resistors in both positions?

When you connect it to the amp use a 100nF or larger cap in series with the output.  The output level is a little high for a guitar amp input too.
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: Brian Marshall on February 15, 2004, 04:16:33 AM
I'll try it again....

Now that i look at it, It looks like a band pass filter.... makes the tranny resonate.....  Didnt really think about how it worked until after i built it... some times that helps a lot when you understand what is going on.

I know it is a little high for a guitar input.  I had it plugged in to a cheap crate amp... the only thing i can think of is that maybe the cheap amp has some sort of protection built in, but i dont think that is the problem.


maybe the trannys i tried are all bad.  I'll test them
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: ExpAnonColin on February 15, 2004, 04:31:00 AM
I'm not sure about 2N5088 vs 2N3904, but it's happened to me that an audio amplifier will only work with a 2N3904 and not a 2N2222.  I would doubt that would be the problem, but subbing values is about 30% of the time the cause of your demise.

-Colin
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: Brian Marshall on February 15, 2004, 04:40:36 AM
think maybe it is saturating to one side, because the filter is too wide to bring it back... ill check it out.

bri
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: aron on February 15, 2004, 05:36:13 AM
It works. That's the circuit I use right now. I built it exactly as shown.
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: Brian Marshall on February 15, 2004, 01:09:02 PM
I wasnt saying that it shouldnt work.... i was asking if the parts i changed would bake a difference.  it certainly seems like it should work.

I think my tranys are bad, or maybe i am reading a resistor value wrong.  I'll try it again today.
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: smoguzbenjamin on February 15, 2004, 01:26:21 PM
Test your resistors for their value if you're not sure, that can clear up a whole lot of confusion.
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: aron on February 15, 2004, 01:35:51 PM
I checked my notes and nothing so I guess I got it to work.

However, I did make a wiring mistake early on which made me think it didn't work as shown.

Maybe you just have a similar problem?
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: Brian Marshall on February 16, 2004, 01:51:51 PM
well i went back and put it on bread board again...., and it worked just fine.  found a number of ways to adjust the frequency, but the wider the sweep the more harmonics seem to come through.

Brian
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: Triffid on February 16, 2004, 02:03:03 PM
I built this as well.. it seemed to work, but I didn't find it particulary useful in testing, maybe with and oscilloscope it would be more useful.  I found it more useful to just hook up my keyboard, for variety reasons.

Am I looking past an important test feature of this curcuit?

Thanks
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: aron on February 16, 2004, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: TriffidI built this as well.. it seemed to work, but I didn't find it particulary useful in testing, maybe with and oscilloscope it would be more useful.  I found it more useful to just hook up my keyboard, for variety reasons.

Am I looking past an important test feature of this curcuit?

Thanks

No, except it is battery powered and small.

Aron
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: Brian Marshall on February 17, 2004, 11:54:23 AM
Yeah, haulig my 61 key keyboard out to my garage evertime i need a sine wave is a pain....
Title: just tried this on bread board, and it didnt work at all....
Post by: aron on February 17, 2004, 03:47:20 PM
Quote from: Brian MarshallYeah, haulig my 61 key keyboard out to my garage evertime i need a sine wave is a pain....

hehehehehe!!!!!!!