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DIY Stompboxes => Building your own stompbox => Topic started by: marrstians on February 15, 2004, 08:44:16 PM

Title: fuzz face or tonebender ?
Post by: marrstians on February 15, 2004, 08:44:16 PM
which do you like better? which is more useable?
Title: fuzz face or tonebender ?
Post by: phillip on February 15, 2004, 08:58:05 PM
My vote goes for the ToneBender MKII.  A lot more fuzz and a lot more sustain ;)

Phillip
Title: Glad You Asked...
Post by: petemoore on February 15, 2004, 09:18:48 PM
Have you considered the Colorsound Overdriver?
 And for those of you F.F.Fans watching..have you tried the C.S.O.D.  ??
 Ok, more knobs and caps, and more wiring, less gritty gain too.
 I put the BC109's in that came yesterday and would be might glad to build one if I didn't have one.
 This pedal has a very pleasing tone, 'organic' grind...dude was getting a sample over the phone and mentioned  Page and Gilmour.
 I've only had it fired up with BC108 [Q1] and BC 109's for a day and I'm floored..it is otherwise exactly like the schematic which includes Treble and Bass controls...as well as gain and volume.
 This is a very nice sounding circuit.
Title: FF AND TB...
Post by: petemoore on February 15, 2004, 09:24:54 PM
er Real close...
 Build yer favorite FF, and add a Booster or Buffer on a DPDT...gets so 'Bendery' ... EVERY FF type I've built sounds different than any other FF...must be the tranny's...[not like I try for duplicity]
  I like sometimes to put a Booster in front of a FF and have the 'other' gain knob.
 Tonebender is a FF with emitter follower [Buffer] as added 1rst stage,
Title: fuzz face or tonebender ?
Post by: brett on February 15, 2004, 09:33:49 PM
Because the the Tonebender is just a fuzzface with an input buffer, there's a kind of trade-off between raw, guitar-loading fuzz (fuzzface) and sustained, more refined fuzz (tonebender).

Personally, I think there's a lot of good things about the Easyface (playability :) ) and Miss Piggy (tone :D ) too.  

Look at it this way - even if you can't decide, you'll have 4 fuzzes, and that's about the right number. :wink:
Title: fuzz face or tonebender ?
Post by: cajununicorn on February 15, 2004, 11:38:06 PM
i'm with pete, i dig the colorsound overdriver....it's not as tempermental and sounds fantastic. i use it at every gig now, always gets heads turning. it doesn't have as much sustain as some others, but i use it after a boss overdrive so it works to my advantage that it doesn't fuzz up too much. it also sounds great after a dynacomp.
Title: They're all good kids...
Post by: petemoore on February 16, 2004, 02:09:57 AM
The above mentioned circuits all behave differently, and have their own unique character...depending on 'everything'... including pickups incap transistors amp etc etc...etc
 They 're all great kids, I'm very glad to have them, after al they're all from the feedback loop family!!!
 I've been doing well Piggybackin Q1, Doesn't hurt to do Q2 also, but it seems easier for me to find a likely candidate for Q2's 'sweet zone' Hfe wise from swapping that transistor...Q1 I think really needed piggybacked before piggybacking was recently discovered ,...you can De-Pig it by pulling the 'back' transistor.
 Looking at an 8 pin Ic socket...like I use for each piggyback transistors
having the emitters resistor go from the bottom of one row, span across to the bottom of the other row...the remaining socket holes are for the transistors...makes it solid for plenty 'o swapping and you can plug the different value resistors in and out real easy.
Title: fuzz face or tonebender ?
Post by: zener on February 16, 2004, 11:58:24 AM
Both sounds great, but I'm after something that can give me more sustain that's why I'm for the TB.

If i have no pedal, but have two trannies left and other stuff and the electronic store is closed for a week and I have a gig tomorrow, I'll build a FF right away 8)