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DIY Stompboxes => Building your own stompbox => Topic started by: Chico on February 27, 2004, 08:51:11 AM

Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: Chico on February 27, 2004, 08:51:11 AM
I need to bond some metal parts to an aluminum enclosure.

More specifically, I need to attach a few hex nuts to the inside surface of one of my effects boxes to support standoffs.

I have tried this stuff called Welder's Glue.  It did not "weld" very well.  After letting the glue set up for a day, the torque of the corresponding screw twisted the nut right off the enclosure.

I tried superglue.  The only thing that crap sticks to is my fingers :twisted:

Any suggestions for a strong glue that can will fit this application?

Thanks in advance.
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: smoguzbenjamin on February 27, 2004, 08:53:38 AM
Try 2-component glue, it's got two tubes and looks like a dual syringe. It sticks like mad :D And not just to your fingers, but also to the wall, the carpet, your brand-new sofa, your TV, your soldering iron, everything ;)
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: AL on February 27, 2004, 08:55:35 AM
Try JB Weld.  You should be able to find it at just about any hardware store.  Also, try roughing up the metal (inside the box) before putting the adhesive down.  This will give the metal something to bond to.

AL
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: javacody on February 27, 2004, 09:00:02 AM
What smoguzbenjamin is talking about is, I think epoxy.
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: kroushl on February 27, 2004, 09:21:50 AM
Yeah, the two-part epoxy stuff is badass.  I've got a tube that claims it can hold 2000lbs (the kind that sets up in hours).  You can also get some 5-min epoxy that would probably be more suitable to this application.

Later,
Brad
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: smoguzbenjamin on February 27, 2004, 09:46:36 AM
2-part epoxy, damn that's the word. In holland we call it 'two-component glue' so I didn't know the work in English :lol:
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: mattburnside on February 27, 2004, 10:06:55 AM
I've used both 2-part epoxy as well as JB Weld, both seem to work pretty well. As mentioned, scuff the surfaces, and CLEAN them. Grease and oil can make the bond fail.
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: MarkB on February 27, 2004, 10:13:53 AM
JB Weld should work fine for you.
"-)
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: RDV on February 27, 2004, 10:27:34 AM
OT, I wonder which language has the most words in it?

Regards

RDV
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: amckinley100 on February 27, 2004, 10:31:32 AM
Adhesive?  Two part epoxy - marketed as "Araldite" here in the UK - absolutely *rocks*!

As my uncle said..."It'd stick your granny up a tree"......my uncle is filled with random quotes such as this...."mad as a box of frogs" being another

Cheers
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: moosapotamus on February 27, 2004, 10:31:50 AM
If you seriously do not want to mess around...

PC-7
http://www.pcepoxy.com/pastepoxies.htm

~ Charlie
Title: JB Weld???
Post by: petemoore on February 27, 2004, 10:39:35 AM
Believe it or not [I wouldn't, but I was there and did it]
 JB Weld can 'glue' your ENGINE Block back together after a freeze/no antifreeze...if it can withstand the fantastic forces of expanding and contracting metal...WOW !!!
 Out patch of JB was on a Chevy 350 in a Suburban, it held till the vehicle got sold...over a year...often starting at below zero temps...probably more than you need, but should do the trick...the cleanness and ruffedupness of the surface epoxies adhere to makes all te difference..I like to ruff with sandpaper and clean with fingerpolish remover and papertowel.
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: AL on February 27, 2004, 10:42:24 AM
"Contractor-Bond:  Re-bar,.. anchors, brackets, plates, studs" and  "Rebuild ... steering wheels"  Holy @#$$!! what is this stuff?  And is there any chance of removing it if you screw up?

AL
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: B Tremblay on February 27, 2004, 10:49:45 AM
This place sells stuff that they say is better than PC7 and has a nifty coloring kit: http://evsupply.com/
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: gez on February 27, 2004, 12:23:09 PM
Quote from: RDVOT, I wonder which language has the most words in it?

http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutenglish/mostwords
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: Ansil on February 27, 2004, 01:09:35 PM
godsglue if you can find it..  i can only find it at a little craft store. in atlanta.... sticks to anything.... wood metal plastic skin.  eyelids
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: Chico on February 27, 2004, 03:16:40 PM
Thanks everyone.

I picked up some 2 part epoxy at the hardware store and will give that a try first.
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: Tubebass on February 27, 2004, 03:20:29 PM
It's probably worth noting that slow-cure (12 hour) epoxy seems to be less "brittle" than the five minute stuff.....if you can wait that long. Also, we used to use stuff where I work called "Black Max" for gluing aluminum. It's a special superglue that has black rubber particles in it as a filler.
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: javacody on February 27, 2004, 05:18:03 PM
Aren't most Germanic languages also agglutinative? For instance, in German, you just keep slapping words together? I think the same is true of Icelandic (which is basically just old Norse, and very closely related to old English).
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: Brett Clark on February 28, 2004, 10:01:16 AM
Interesting point - Finnish is NOT a Germanic language (Finno-Uguric group), but it is said to have this same characteristic. Does anyone know if the word-linking process is the same, or different?
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: Brett Clark on February 28, 2004, 11:19:34 AM
ANSIL - what's this "godsglue" stuff? I read an article about someone extracting glue from Zebra Mussel shells - is that it? According to this article it was amazingly sticky - could even stick to Teflon.
Title: What is the best adhesive
Post by: gez on February 28, 2004, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: Brett Clarkwhat's this "godsglue" stuff?

Isn't that what happens to adolescent males during sleep?