http://www.experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/Schematics/japaneseelectronicsbook.zip
Man, this is such a great resource. Thanks a ton, Jun, for scanning this all for us. It's a 4mb or so file with 84 different schematics/board layouts. Very very interesting stuff in this one! Again, what a great resource.
-Colin
Cool, I got my copy. There's some interesting stuff in there. Jun's da man :!:
Nice!!!!!!!!Nice!!!!!!!!Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you Jun
Thank you Colin
the "ethics committee" doesn`t seem to work on jp. IP....
Yeah man, thnx a bunch :D
Got my copy to. Will be intresting looking into. :P
Thanks alot.
Thanks!
My faves: D.I. box & the simple LDR comp.
I can't dl it... Is it just me?
right click >> save as ?
:oops: I tried many things, but...:oops:
His site seems to be down at the moment, I can't reach it either...
Ah damnit, everyone try
http://experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/Schematics/japaneselectronicsbook.zip instead.
Sorry.
-Colin
Quote from: puretubethe "ethics committee" doesn`t seem to work on jp. IP....
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Wow! That's awesome! Thanks Colin & Jun!
~ Charlie
Mr Jun:
my "proper" respect to you Japanese people shows in the fact that I wonder if people have less ethical feelings towards writers from "your" country than to writers of other countries (am.)...
b.t.w.: I abbrev. wrds. the way I wanna...
Eagle eyes will note that this is where I got the Super Octaver project I posted at hammer.ampage.org.
Some very nice circuits in there, but I have to tip my hat for a very nice scanning job. Crisp, clean, compact files.
Unfortunately, not all of the circuits will be buildable as is. For instance, the ping-pong uses an AN-829 dual VCA for which there is no real pin-for-pin equivalent. the only place I've seen it listed is at Ranger Electronics, but lord knows if they actually have stock to accompany that list. I suppose it exists somewhere in the Akihibara but I don't expect a visit there anytime soon.
Thanks a lot, Jun and Colin :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: .
I know this is a sensitive issue here, but do you know there's also a scanned version of EPFM around the net? it's about 44,7Kb thoug
8)
oops..I meant 44,7Mega bytes. :shock:
It's a pain my local library doesn't have EPFM. Sucks! :x
44.7kB isn`t that much...
Quote from: Mark HammerEagle eyes will note that this is where I got the Super Octaver project I posted at hammer.ampage.org.
Some very nice circuits in there, but I have to tip my hat for a very nice scanning job. Crisp, clean, compact files.
Unfortunately, not all of the circuits will be buildable as is. For instance, the ping-pong uses an AN-829 dual VCA for which there is no real pin-for-pin equivalent. the only place I've seen it listed is at Ranger Electronics, but lord knows if they actually have stock to accompany that list. I suppose it exists somewhere in the Akihibara but I don't expect a visit there anytime soon.
And what about the TA7125P of the guitar synth?
I've built the super octaver months ago and I was very satisfied of it and I think that all the projects in this book are on the same level.
The vocoder seems interesting too...
You are welcome to everybody. I'm glad some use is going to come out of this book. This is a wonderfully helpful forum thanks to Aron and all
the contributors.
QuoteSome very nice circuits in there, but I have to tip my hat for a very nice scanning job. Crisp, clean, compact files.
Thanks to Colin for hosting them and the scanning primer.
QuoteMr Jun:
my "proper" respect to you Japanese people shows in the fact that I wonder if people have less ethical feelings towards
writers from "your" country than to writers of other countries (am.)...
I bought this book about 25 years ago. When I had a chance to work at this magazine company as an interpreter about 10 years later I asked the
only remaining editor if the book was ever going to be updated. Not only did he have the ONLY remaining copy in the office, he assured me
with interest level being so low it would never see the light of day again. Besides the 'writers' that Mr. Puretube is all worried about will NOT receive any more fees even if the book were to be published again.
Quoteb.t.w.: I abbrev. wrds. the way I wanna...
That's funny the only word you chose to abbreviate offended me. A simple sorry would have sufficed instead of feebly attempting to justify it.
(http://www.diystompboxes.com/sboxforum/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Jun
I`m only sorry for havin`spent 2 much time on this forum, bye....
Come on man. This is no way to go about each other. You both calm down. Puretube probably didn't mean it that way and Jun was just asking for an apology. Now y'all both hush and be nice! :)
Jun comes about as close to getting clearance before posting as anyone here is likely to do. As mentioned, I had a scan of the book (even all the Japanese text) for a while now, but I've never really been in a position to seek or obtain some assurance that it was okay to post anything. I was asked by my "provider" not to post anything more than a tidbit, and I complied. I did post the Super Octaver but declined to post more than that or the name of the book.
It IS well over 20 years old, and not in print any longer. The same cannot be said about EPFM-II (well, the second part anyways). A real pity that these were not widely known over here or available at the time. There is actually a great deal of Anderton/Penfold-like material for effects-builders in Japan. I'm envious.
Note that the PCB layouts in these books are not for PnP. In order to use them to make PCBs you will have to mirror-image them with the graphics package of your preference.
You will also note that hardly any diode is called by a part number that is even remotely familiar. If anyone would be so gracious as to create a table of equivalences, especially for zeners, I'd be appreciative. For the moment, I can suggest that a 1N914/4148 is the nearest equivalent to a IS1588....I think.
About zener diodes, many of them are
RD4B = zener 4v
RD5A = zener 5v
RD5.6EB = zener 5.6v
RD13A = zener 13v
and so on...
In rockin-VCF-1.gif there are:
1N60 = 1N34A = AA118 or AA119
02Z2.2A = zener 2.2v
10D-10 of tube driver is unknown.
I'm working on transistors and IC replacement.
THANKS SO MUCH.
Thanks for the great collection! Keep it up! :D :D :D
Quote from: puretubeI`m only sorry for havin`spent 2 much time on this forum, bye....
dude this is a double standard for for some[ posting the book and all ]. i do have a lot of respect for puretube devices. and i'd hate to see this turn into a pissing match or cold war between a few people.
it's aron's forum and it's the best on the net. if aron doesn't red flag or pull the thread, it somehow meets the criteria of " ethics" so to speak.
i do see both sides. but , you being the bad ass designer that you are, i
i thought , or hoped for more depth of character from the the likes of you.
i won't take sides on this one.......
you do have a point...... but it's not worth causing a devision on the forum.
word's can hurt and i know because i've got a foul mouth and don't phuck around. i work on it everyday, though i'm still who i am.
peace to ALL pedalpals,
- tom
Quote from: puretubethe "ethics committee" doesn`t seem to work on jap. IP....
edited:
The "ethics committee" does not seem to work on Japanese intellectual property (-dot-dot-dot-dot-)
interesting that you choose to make a comment on ethics using a pejorative term... Besides that, maybe you could've thought to ask first what the situation was without being accusatory from the get-go.
Hellow.
This book is the separate volume that D.I.Y. articles in “Rockin' f†of the time when it was published by
"rittou company" were collected.
Though "rittou company" doesn't exist at present, another company is continuing the publication with "Rockin' f".
I don't know that company to whether to get those publishing rights, too.
And, it isn't understood whether it insists on the right.
I get author's permission though I report the article of this book at my site, too.
They understood point, and understood it.
But, they said that all right wasn't given up.
The problem of the copyright of the publishing company may take place because there is a schedule to publish Ver3
specially in this though, besides, there are "handmaide prject Ver1 and Ver2" in the writer's book again.
And, besides, there are "handmaide project Ver1 and Ver2" in this writer's book.
There is a schedule to publish Ver3, and the copyright of the publishing company may cause a trouble.
A past article may appear again.
It was said that it was surely confirmed.
And, there is a "saishinnefekuta-nyuumon" book of the "seibundoushinkousya(company).
It is said that this company said that all reproduction diversion was prohibited.Be careful.
It sympathizes with the posture which tries to share buried property.
But, aren't the efforts to obtain consent to a certain extent necessary?
Won't I have to put a writer's name at least?
It hopes that my word (English) and thought are understood.
Quote from: Dai H.... Besides that, maybe you could've thought to ask first what the situation was without being accusatory from the get-go.
Ditto
What a wonderful collection, thanks to all to concerned. I don't think anyone is going to get rich on any of it, so I cannot see what the fuss is all about. Considering the antics of some governments these days the posting of this pales into insignificance doesn't it - a fact not a question - and as my wife would say - "God doesn't mind!"
Quote
There is a schedule to publish Ver3, and the copyright of the publishing company may cause a trouble.
I doubt it. I have Ver3 which I bought 25 years ago.
Jun
Seems as though people are typing http://experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/Schematics/japaneselectronicsbook.zip instead of http://experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/Schematics/japaneseelectronicsbook.zip ... just watchin' my error log.
-Colin
got some "Elektor" monthly magazines (in fact all from 1970 on..);
from `76 thru `77 they had a series "Formant-Synthesizer" (built that..);
1978 the Elektor publishing co. made a book from the series, which had several editions thru 1982. (written by C. Chapman);
In `81 they issued an add-on book (Formant II) with xtra modules and bug-fixes (by M.F.P. Aigner);
In the mid-eighties/nineties public interest was more towards digi-synths...
In 2000, the same publ co. re-issued main contents of the first book, with updates on modules (by a 3rd author), `coz public interest was back into modular analog;
The x-th edition of this (Formant-pro) book is doing well in the europ. keyb.-scene... ("Doepfer" recommends it on his site...);
(and btw. that same editor of the very first book asked me to write a book about my tube-fx to be publ. by Elektor à t Frankfurt MusikMesse `99,
but E-H was faster...)
I think it kinda funny that the author didn't feel bad using the Alembic name for one of the projects.
Isn't that a trademark infringment?
I was thinking about IP the other day and I realized it must help a great deal to keep really good ideas and inventions form ever seeing the light of day because the money baggers can buy it up and hide it all away forever cause they OWN it.
Just think we could have cleaner air, less pollution, no starvation, the list is pretty long I am sure.
If you think about it hard enough and with an open enough moind you could realize that perhaps everything needed to save the world exists already and is known......but they can't be put to use becuase it is owned by a large corperaton that has it locked away....
Oh well just some more piss in the wind.
Are we the victim....... or the crime?
err..., interesting; which Alembic name was that?
Quote from: puretubeerr..., interesting; which Alembic name was that?
You'll have to violate copyright law to find out. :wink:
QuoteI think it kinda funny that the author didn't feel bad using the Alembic name for one of the projects.
Isn't that a trademark infringment?
As a matter of fact this book contains 'full copies' of the MXR distortion+, dynacomp, Craig Anderton fuzz and bass fuzz schems (from EPFM).
Jun
The sixth and seventh entry are labeled Alembic boo PCB and Alembic fet booster.
Looking at it quickly and it looks like a Stratoblaster.
The funny thing is they didn't mention Startoblaster....maybe they didn't want to use the Fender name (didn't bother Alembic LOL!) but they sure used Alembics name.
I cannot help but find that all very very amusing indeed!
Ethics huh? :roll:
Oh yeah and the name flying pan is cleverly tucked in there as well......
Chuckles 8)
QuoteYou'll have to violate copyright law to find out.
http://www.muzique.com/clones.htm
sroll dwn, read...
QuoteAs a matter of fact this book contains 'full copies' of the MXR distortion+, dynacomp, Craig Anderton fuzz and bass fuzz schems (from EPFM).
Now that IS rich :lol:
Thanks Jun (and EA!) I appreciate it even if others do not!!
QuoteBut, aren't the efforts to obtain consent to a certain extent necessary?
Ask the author!
Chuckles 8)
aah, you were talking bout the newly published "Japanese Book"
sorry-misunderstood that (thought "Formant");
haven`t seen that "J.B." (and I don`t mean Mr. Brown...)
Quote from: JunQuoteI think it kinda funny that the author didn't feel bad using the Alembic name for one of the projects.
Isn't that a trademark infringment?
As a matter of fact this book contains 'full copies' of the MXR distortion+, dynacomp, Craig Anderton fuzz and bass fuzz schems (from EPFM).
Jun
OK: now we all know who is accusing whom from where of what...
(concerning nationalities...)
Quotesorry-misunderstood that (thought "Formant");
Opps sorry I didn't mean to confuse you.
LOL you must have been scoffing :O)
Quotehaven`t seen that "J.B."
Right... uh ....yeah...I mean...uh ....me neither! :shock:
:P
hey puretube (and others who had to suffer through the riduculous thread), sorry for misunderstanding and over-reacting. What can I say--language that can be taken as inflammatory can short circuit the brain...
That being said, I think that w/the particular scans, because of the factors previously mentioned (long out of print, n/a, doesn't seem to be considered for a re-print, shows how to copy MXR distortion+, dynacomp, Craig Anderton fuzz and bass fuzz, etc.) I think this is in the grey area not black and white. And to present the view that maybe the "ethics committee" is w/this presentation of copyrighted material all of the sudden having a callous disregard because the material is of Japanese origin, I don't quite get that sense. As kind of an aside, I think one factor for people buying the book back then may have been the extremely high prices compared to Japanese equivalent products for things like the Phase 90 and Dynacomp. Providing the means for building stuff like that priced way beyond reach--I'm not sure I'd want to call that any sort of evil. If the import is triple or quadruple the price in the original country, then I suppose the intellectual property aspects would become less important to a musician wanting an effect, esp. something popular. And either making your own copy or buying essentially a manf.'ed copy--whether if it's efx. or gtrs. or whatever--then starts making more sense. Technologically, it's a whole lot easier now to copy published works and distribute them en masse, so for some things which people want but owners, publishers, etc. feel that there is no economic benefit in re-printing--I think it's just bound to happen that someone (or some people) will make copies, distribute them (and people accept them). Sometimes you see very old publications being re-issued again after many, many years (decades), but I would think a lot of people just wouldn't want to wait 20 or 30 years until the re-publishing is realized. Personally I would have bought the scanned book in question (and I think there is also another old Japanese one w/lots of projects which I would buy in a heartbeat if I found a used copy), but it's not available if I run out to the bookstore, is it? And with people making copies of things and passing them out for free, I think of part of any financial loss is a hypothetical one, right? That is to say, some people only took the item because it was free, and they would not have bought the item if they had to pay. Plus I don't think that the free spread of information is all "blacks"(negatives). It could mean more DIYers due to more efficient (although maybe un-ethical in cases or grey) transmission of information breeding more intellectual property and not less. Maybe.
anyway Peace,
Dai
Yeah, well you're all a bunch of asshats as far as I am concerned. That is a derogitory term that means everyone but me. ;)
The only stereotype I have of Japanese people is that they are hardworking, intelligent, and have a long and rich history.
I think that Americans have the worst stereotypes, but at least we aren't arrogant, chain smoking, non-deoderant wearing, arm-pit hair braiding Europeans. ;) I may be fat, and I may sue you at the drop of a hat, I may be %^&*y, but at least you can't call me a European. Thank God for that!
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Let's leave the copyright enforcement to the copyright holders.
Quote from: javacodyI think that Americans have the worst stereotypes, but at least we aren't arrogant, chain smoking, non-deoderant wearing, arm-pit hair braiding Europeans.
In defence of my fellow Europeans, my arm-pit hair is not, and I repeat, NOT braided!...it's permed.
Glad you didn't mention the bad teeth...
FINALLY, a sense of humor. This whole politically correct nightmare had me fearing for the sake of the forum, haha.
check out other forums (fora):
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=571147
Seifukusha aka Joey speaks japanese and korean, spends time in Japan and Korea, everyone on the HC forum would know it too; he doesn't mean any disrespect. puretube didn't either. But *some* people do when using that term.
Mike
I posted on new thread...in order to arrange a topic.
http://diystompboxes.com/sboxforum/viewtopic.php?t=19633
QuoteThis is NOT nonsense.
I've had my engineering ripped off, I've had my artwork ripped off, and I've had my photography ripped off.
I really appreciate eaze's attempt to stand up for the rights of any authors.
Thank you eaze!
To people who whine about not being able to get copies of other people's work: Why not make YOUR OWN inventions?
Because a couple of people are starting to get sadly infantile as they add themselves to this thread, I am now locking it. Sorry Eaze. Please accept my apologies. You have my respect.
-Peter
Thank you eaze, Hizumi, Peter ! 8)