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Title: Virus email again
Post by: Aharon on March 13, 2004, 10:23:48 AM
I just got another one.The sender is jzz@aol.com,whomever that is.
I guess I have to change my email and just not post it.
To all the friendlies out there please erase my address from your books if you have it.
Aharon
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Nasse on March 13, 2004, 11:17:31 AM
:roll: Maybe the owner of the mail address does not know what his/hers computer is doing... and he she is not the only one :wink:

Nasty worms are movin around, sick evil stuff...
Only little small cute bug and it can send thousands of seeds...

But I quess ANY longtime member / frequent user / circuit junkie of this forum is happy to know is his computer is sending unwanted things.
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Aharon on March 13, 2004, 11:24:33 AM
Well,I'm happy my computer is not infected but still makes me leary of what's going on.
Also if peolple are asking for free samples remember that if you do you probably become part of a database that has millions of addresses,I don't know if that's the case but sounds logic to me it could spread like that also.
Aharon
Title: Virus email again
Post by: smoguzbenjamin on March 13, 2004, 11:27:35 AM
:evil: I seriously wonder why all these hackers do this kind of sh*t. I mean, no-one is gaining anything and you can't go around bragging "I wrote the myDoom virus!" so what's the point? Just some computer nerd who thinks he's better than the rest of the world... :evil: Hackers are total assholes...
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Nasse on March 13, 2004, 11:35:49 AM
:? Yeah I sometimes got a "free" e-mail address just for purpose so I could dumb the address if I am buried under junk mail like advertisements and endless special orders or penis enlargement/viagra ads, maybe they are safer too if you change mail with a stranger
Title: Virus email again
Post by: keko on March 13, 2004, 12:03:31 PM
Ben,
Quoteyou can't go around bragging "I wrote the myDoom virus!"
hackers, crackers, phreakers, breakers and whatever they like to call each other DO brag about it. The just don't do it in places like this.

Nasse,  
Quotesometimes got a "free" e-mail address just for purpose
I have done the same thing, and ended up with 7 different emails  :oops: ...well, I 'actually' have a separate use for each, but that's difficult to track.


Aharon, the idea behind all these worms, is not that 'people' send it to you. They get sent by themselves. Technicaly speaking, most of them has their own mail server embedded, so once a computer get's infected, the worm looks for the address book, and resends itself as an attachment to everyone in that address book. So probably it was not intentional that you got that mail.

I use norton antivirus, and succesfully detects and removes about 10 infected emails every day! Many other software will work as well. Just make sure you update yout virus definitions daily.

Good Luck
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Johan on March 13, 2004, 12:06:18 PM
check the IP addreses!...sometimes the viruses that are sent around "steals" someone elses addres and makes it look like someone who is in reallity not sending you virusmail gets the blame...
...we've had that problem in the company I work for. a lot of people got virus mails with mail addreses from us, but when we check the IP's it was clearly coming from somewhere else...

..also, I saw the other day you where conserned that sometimes after posting here, you get viruses...perhaps you could use double identitys...log in under another name...it would be really sad if thats needed, but just to make sure...

Johan
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Aharon on March 13, 2004, 12:42:39 PM
Well,I will not post under another name,thanks for the suggestion tho'.
I will change my email and that's it.
I have protection that's why I'm not infected and I also know that visuses self propagate that's why i asked fellow DIYers to erase my address from your books if you have me.That's all.
I'm going to say it again,it happens in a flurry after certain discussions,I don't know what causes it and don't know if it's related.Just a wild guess.
Aharon
Title: Virus email again
Post by: ExpAnonColin on March 13, 2004, 01:10:11 PM
I didn't use to get any spam or virii back in the day, and then I by mistake posted my eMail on a newsgroup and was thus @#$%ed.  I was virus free for maybe a year or two.  Just don't post your email address in a common place, and when you're signing up for things, don't check the box that says "Check this box for updates."

-Colin
Title: Virus email again
Post by: RDV on March 13, 2004, 02:18:03 PM
Everyone is wonderful. No, REALLY.

Regards

RDV
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Peter Snowberg on March 13, 2004, 02:34:33 PM
Quote from: anonymousexperimentalistI didn't use to get any spam or virii back in the day....
Now you're making me feel really old :lol:. "Back in the day" I was removing viruses from machines when you were less then 2 years old. ;) 'Good' old nVIR...

As Johan stated, the address that it says it came from is meaningless. Now with XP allowing the creation of totally raw Ethernet packets you can't even trust the IP in the headers, but for the moment the IP is still the only way to get closer to the source.

Take care,
-Peter
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Aharon on March 13, 2004, 02:46:43 PM
Quote from: RDV
Quote from: AharonWell,I will not post under another name,thanks for the suggestion tho'.
I will change my email and that's it.
I have protection that's why I'm not infected and I also know that visuses self propagate that's why i asked fellow DIYers to erase my address from your books if you have me.That's all.
I'm going to say it again,it happens in a flurry after certain discussions,I don't know what causes it and don't know if it's related.Just a wild guess.
Aharon
You're barking up the wrong tree partner, your paranoia about the members of this forum is unjustified. Changing your eMail address and removing it from here will not help you at all. As long as you have an email address, you will receive virus' by email, it's just a fact of life. If I have something to say to anyone here that I don't want others to hear, I will P.M.

Regards

RDV


RDV:
     Thanks you for stating the obvious.I'm not being paranoid I was just warning fellow members and bringing up a legitimate concern but I guess you felt your wisdom was needed.
Who was talking about P.M.?
I can't believe how people will twist what one said,I'm not accussing anybody.

Aharon(member since 98/99 who knows when....)
Title: Virus email again
Post by: puretube on March 13, 2004, 03:03:49 PM
hey Aharon (b.t.w.: are you the "A.C." at ampage?):
I may have caused some reason for flaming here (unwillingly, though...),
but haven`t gotten any "wrong mails", that "McAfee" would have told me of, anyway...
Title: Virus email again
Post by: The Tone God on March 13, 2004, 03:57:39 PM
These macro viri that use email address books to both send and forge addresses make it almost impossible to track the source. The only thing you can really do is email everyone that you know has your address and let them know that they need to scan their machine. Even then you may not know everyone that has your address as it could have been passed on without you knowing.

I have a few personal addresses that I give ONLY directly to people and use for person to person communication. I don't post it publicly anywhere. For eveything else I have a bunch of throw away addresses or forwarding addresses that I can delete. Anywhere I need to post, sign up, or in anyway give an address I use one of the throw away accounts. Keeps the spam at bay and lessens the chance of me getting a virus in my good mail accounts. When I get one at a good account I send out a email to all the members of that address.

Andrew
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Aharon on March 13, 2004, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: puretubehey Aharon (b.t.w.: are you the "A.C." at ampage?):
I may have caused some reason for flaming here (unwillingly, though...),
but haven`t gotten any "wrong mails", that "McAfee" would have told me of, anyway...


Back in the day I was AC at Ampage ( Not A.C. but we are talking 4/5 years ago).
I also let everybody know that I changed to Aharon or A Colman on the old profile before Aron moved to this format.That's old news and should not cause flaming.
The people that count have known me for years and know who and what I'm all about.
Aharon
Title: Virus email again
Post by: keko on March 13, 2004, 04:08:29 PM
I have an idea  :idea: !!!!

let's see...these viruses look in your address book...well, what if we all had a few 'wrong' addresses in our books?. I mean, if you actually get infected, at least you won't propagate as much of it, 'cause some isp don't let wrong formatted email through.

I'm not sure if I'm making sense....you know, I'm thinking out loud. Just that.

Make a few entries in your books, like:

name: a
last name: a
email: a@a.notavaliddomainname

so it will be sorted out first, but as .notavaliddomainname is indeed *not a valid domain name* the server *might* stop sending mails.

At my last job, when you sent an email to several people, and one address was wrong, then nobody got the email, till I fixed the miss spelled address.
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Peter Snowberg on March 13, 2004, 05:11:12 PM
It all depends on the mail server..... some of them will give bounce notices for each invalid address and send to the rest.

The best protection is to just not use Outlook on an Intel/AMD PC. Aside from that.... maybe adding an additional character to the address would be a good way to go (i.e. address@diystompboxes.comz). Manually removing that final 'z' will prevent the use of the address book.

Oh well.

Take care,
-Peter
Title: Virus email again
Post by: puretube on March 13, 2004, 05:51:32 PM
Quotewhen you sent an email to several people, and one address was wrong, then nobody got the email,

yeah, but that`s kinda sh*tty, too...
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Chris Goodson on March 13, 2004, 06:22:32 PM
About a month ago I was getting about three viruses sent to me a day for a period of about two weeks.  One of them was always a fake update from Microsoft and the others claimed to be unsendable emails being returned, I think the virus was called A-something.  It was really making me paranoid for a while there but has since stopped.  I think maybe they got my address off of monster.com.

I've always wondered if viruses originate from software companies - creating a problem and then selling you the solution.
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Aharon on March 13, 2004, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: Chris GoodsonAbout a month ago I was getting about three viruses sent to me a day for a period of about two weeks.  One of them was always a fake update from Microsoft and the others claimed to be unsendable emails being returned, I think the virus was called A-something.  It was really making me paranoid for a while there but has since stopped.  I think maybe they got my address off of monster.com.

I've always wondered if viruses originate from software companies - creating a problem and then selling you the solution.



You are not far off the mark,in manufacturing is called "planned obsolescence".
Aharon
Title: Virus email again
Post by: RDV on March 13, 2004, 08:48:24 PM
Excuse me for stating that you are paranoid.

Have a wonderful day

RDV
Title: Virus email again
Post by: puretube on March 14, 2004, 05:56:39 AM
Quote from: Aharon
Quote from: puretubehey Aharon (b.t.w.: are you the "A.C." at ampage?):
I may have caused some reason for flaming here (unwillingly, though...),
but haven`t gotten any "wrong mails", that "McAfee" would have told me of, anyway...


Back in the day I was AC at Ampage ( Not A.C. but we are talking 4/5 years ago).
I also let everybody know that I changed to Aharon or A Colman on the old profile before Aron moved to this format.That's old news and should not cause flaming.
The people that count have known me for years and know who and what I'm all about.
Aharon

Hi Aharon!  I`m sorry that sometimes my posts seem to lead to misunderstandings;
there where absolutely no intentions coupled to that first Q. ; it just by accident occurred that I just hopped over from the ampage-forum, and  my ever-nosey curiosity led me to completely un-neccessarily write that little sentence in the brackets; since I didn`t want to expose somebody`s last name, I rather used the abbreviation.


Just wanted to state, that me has not gotten virusmails from this forum yet, although some people here (not talking bout You, here),
not always share my opinions.
(again, this is not at all referring to You, but only generally stated
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Aharon on March 14, 2004, 11:47:41 AM
Hi Puretube:
                No harm done or ofense taken.The problem we are having would not exist if instead of a computer screen we were all in a room having a brewsky.No matter how many emoticons we use there's more than 60% of communication that is lost for lack of eye contact ,body lanuage,voice inflection etc.
I have nothing but good shitza to say about all of the forum.There's always a troll here and there but that's not the forum.We are the forum,the regulars and if we have a little tiff,much like any family,we'll fix it and cary on.
Love you all
Aharon :D  :)  8)  :P  :wink:
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Fret Wire on March 14, 2004, 12:03:52 PM
Quote from: AharonThe problem we are having would not exist if instead of a computer screen we were all in a room having a brewsky.No matter how many emoticons we use there's more than 60% of communication that is lost for lack of eye contact ,body lanuage,voice inflection etc.

So true.  Real interaction prevents a lot of simple misunderstandings.

It's easy to adopt a punk mentality with a keyboard, and thousands of miles between the people, then is to disagree about a point face to face.

These flame threads are disappointing, but in the big picture of life, not worth an ounce of stress. Just words on a computer.
Title: Virus email again
Post by: smoguzbenjamin on March 14, 2004, 01:08:40 PM
Quote from: Fret WireIt's easy to adopt a punk mentality with a keyboard, and thousands of miles between the people, then is to disagree about a point face to face.
That reminds me of kids (my age for heaven's sake!) here going online and having internet relationships... In the end it wither amounts to nothing, and they're annoyed or sad for a week, or they get a date and they both think "Jeez that guy/gal's ugly..."

Anyway yeah, all you see here are a omputer's interpretaion of 0s and 1s. You wouldn't get mad at 0s and 1s so why would you flame someone (or actually the 0s and 1s)...

Argh I'm not making sense today. I built an optical theremin-y thingy today, went from scratch to full-working unit in one day... I had to I'm leaving for England tomorrow :lol: Therefore my brain is tired and stuff :roll:
Title: Virus email again
Post by: Gilles C on March 15, 2004, 09:30:38 PM
A program that I like to use to pre-view my emails is Pop Peeper.

With it, you can read a message without letting the sending know it, so they don't know you exist.

And  it HELPS to control the email viruses.

But you need an antivirus also.

http://www.poppeeper.com/

There is some info in the Help about viruses.