Is this worthy of a build to emulate the marshall sound or is all the hype just that, hype?
Breadboard it and find out for yourself. No one else's opinion will serve you as well as your own ears.
Hype?
I can't say I've seen anything that I would describe as hype, but if you want a sample of the sound just check out the sample at Runoffgroove. It won't sound exactly like a Marshall but remember that some of that tonal recipe is from the speakers as with any amp. Your computer speakers won't be able to do any amp sim device any real justice. From what I've heard.... the sound is very Marshally in any case.
Give it a build and see how you like it. The sample sounds great to me.
Take care,
-Peter
It's mostly hype... We make lots of money off these designs. Hype is essential in marketing.
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http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html
Take a look at #3
-Eric
Quote from: Eric Hhttp://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html
Take a look at #3 -Eric
Wow, that's a great site, everyone should check that out.
Regards
RDV
Yeah. In fact a lot of people don't realize that Gary actually posts compliments to himself under a variety of pseudonyms.
The part I don't get, though, is how he keeps posting build problems to himself and then answering them. Weird. :wink:
Lot's of email addresses. :wink: :wink:
Regrads
RDV
Actually, we started this thread just so people would defend us. Over 93% of the names on this forum's member list are pseudonyms that Gary and I use regularly. :wink:
Thanks guys--been a long day..i needed this laugh--hahahahahhaha every bit of it..hope no one was serious! I did enjoy the web link to ettiquite...
I try not to respond to hype, so for me, the logical answer to your original question would be: "no"...but you might find someone who would answer you differently, and being percieved as a 'hyper'.
So in essence, any answer given should first be seen as being moot.
No objective response can be given under that context, it is too general, and predisposed to negativity]. Results may vary...
That said, you still may be able to slip in a simple whoops that works.
Im just very very thankfull someone would go out of there way do let anyone--me! --copy/ make,,esp w the layout!! Very cool indeed! I think ive already built 6 or more from runnoffgroove and like them more than most effects i buy!! commercial ones included!! My fav is multi-face!
There are so many pedals out that they people have made that "sound like a Marshall". I'm not kidding.
Seems like everything sounds like a Marshall!
In any case, the schematic looks well designed and the samples sound good, so go for it and find out for yourself!
That's the reward!
I think brian and gary are secretly JFET salesman, as so many of their pedals use JFETs, that is of course in addition to the 5300 different accounts they have at this forum. ;)
I'm working on a design that sounds like a Peavey! :wink: :wink:
Reargards
RDV
Runoff groove are just big-money corporate SWINE!!!
Boss and DOD aren't the enemy... RUNOFFGROOVE ARE!!
I say we buy all their pedals and reverse engineer them so we can swap schematics... then we can make layouts for them!... muahahahaha!!!
"-)
Hey RDV,
When you get it just right send me a copy down here in Texas, they don't make anything down here that quite has that type of tone.
JD :lol:
Quote from: JDHey RDV,
When you get it just right send me a copy down here in Texas, they don't make anything down here that quite has that type of tone.
JD :lol:
Hey! Ya'll ain't foolin' me! I know you guys got them Vintage Fenders n' Marshalls n' stuff out yonder on stage whar the crowd can see um, but you got that ol' Peavey Bandit 65 miked up backstage. :shock:
Howdy
RDV
Quote from: RDVI'm working on a design that sounds like a Peavey! :wink: :wink:
Reargards
RDV
If you can make it sound like a Classic 50, then it'll certainly be worth building. Really good-sounding amp, I'm serious :D
Quote from: travisskQuote from: RDVI'm working on a design that sounds like a Peavey! :wink: :wink:
If you can make it sound like a Classic 50, then it'll certainly be worth building. Really good-sounding amp, I'm serious :D
I used to have one of those. I ran it together with a Peavey Bandit 65 in stereo. I'm serious. I traded it for a Marshall which I still have. The Classic started to feedback when it was on standby. Really.
I've also probably got the record for # of hours on the same set of EL34s. I've had the Marshall 10+ years gigging at least 80% of weekends without replacing the tubes. Truly a tank. A workhorse.
The Classic Series are damn good amps for the money though, mine got dropped/thrown a few times :oops:
RDV
not an offensive, but...
r u nutz? the design is only like a month old. by what if any means can it become HYPE?
Eric:
I couldn't think of a more appropriate link. I'm still laughing... :D :D That site -really- needs to be linked in the FAQ.
Aron:
Wasn't that kind of what the original Tube Screamer was all about? To make your Fender amp sound like a Marshall???
RDV:
Someday there's going to be a big market for people who want their Marshalls and Fenders to sound like a Peavey. They just don't know it yet... You are a visionary... :D
Doug
I just got the schematic for my PV Special 150 and I think I'm going to remove the THICK circuit and replace it with the SCOOP circuit Mark Hammer has been talking about. Who's your daddy. 8)
I modded my little Marshall MkII, it is so much better behaved now...It used to bark at almost anything that moved!!!
One leetle cap change...now instead of a non-housetrained dog, barking over everything all the time, and pizzin me off left and right, I get to ride a well behaved race horse.
SO it just shows to go that if you want to know if your'e stuff works 'right', you just gotta Mod 'em.
what the heck was that ICE pick capacitor doing in there in ther first place I'll never know...whew...the PAIN is over!!! The barking dog has been put down ...Whew!...what a relief !!
There Will never BE a substitute for sleep !
I'd like to confess... I was raised by a pack of rabid door-to-door encyclopedia salesmen. I've had sales beaten into my subconscious since birth. It's about the almighty dollar with me. I've spent 38.352 cents worth of my time typing this reply.
I have a simple explanation for the question/answer posts you see here. I suffer from multiple personality disorder. Unfortunately for me, all the personalities are the same so it is quite boring for us... er, me.
And you have no idea how many hours Brian and I (did I mention we are both the same person?) spent setting up all these accounts so we could post... There's hardly any time to research, draw, breadboard or build and test anything.
Oops! There's atleast 68.975 cents of time lost on this reply! That's a 48.2% downtime loss! Now I'll have to work Sunday!
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Seriously, does the 'Chief sound exactly like a cranked Marshall Super Lead? Hell no! But it gets a lot closer for me than anything I've heard so far. Well, except a cranked Marshal Super Lead... Or atleast a good one. There are bad sounding Marshalls, too.
Anyone ever plug straightinto a SLP, and get "That Marshall Sound"? [lol...no, that other Marshall sound...].
I owned two 100w Super Leads, not at the same time, they were different [I think I liked the Reissue better, could sound Super Lead Great, or super neastey BlwonCH. My sound suffered horribly when my Dist+ [ochre] got heisted off a stage. The amplifier sounded best on standby.
For sometime after having the first big tube amp...SLP [great choice but too big] I fought and fought with it trying to get 'it' to sound 'like the records'. Certain time I would come close to certain parts. Very educational...[I cursed it]...really teaches you alot about how to play through an amp ...!!! Best tudor's I've ever had have been amps and Fuzztwangerz {Bro Phil Used to say :cry: ]...they teach you with the instantaneous feedback necessary [OC IMO] to learn about string attack.
Anyway, until sort of recently in my sound chasing endeavors, 100w Marshalls have been a Love/Hate relationship !!!
When you first get it...tell everybody about it...they come over to hear it...is it working right? does that sound like the record? that things auful LouDD !!! etc..
Enter decent speakers...start working the amp dynamics... thats fun.
Then you're out in a field, with intoxicating aromas, you're SLP somehow tuned itself perfectly to the vibe, with the Fuzz box on it, it is just FLoorrED, and truly sounds superb !!!
...Time passes...you play the amp PreTTy LouD whenever possible ....then you're at a first gig, the PA blows, you got this HUGe amp...out of control half the time...for years it goes on like this: Get the amp UP/it sounds Great!!! Turn the thing Wayy Down/Fight it all night again.
The things might just sing for someone, right off the bat, with 1 guitar.
Actually I saw dude with the G&L, a guitar cord, a Super Lead that was beat like rick...I dunno how he did it...the thing was LOUDER THAN HOLEY DRASTICALITY, but I've never seen anything like it really...Guys name is Joe, 'guitar' Joe of course...not into 'structures'..per se, cool patterns of harmonic shift, couples the killer drummer with unmistakable cues...worked great Big Rock Show !!! He kind barely knew nothing about say bar band knowledge type stuff...just blow the man down...what a whompin' screamer.
I've been having the 50w Marshall V-R MkII [Plexi Panel], Now that I'm on the inside it says 1987 on a piece of paper. To identify it I would type or say 1987 MkII and 'People' would know what I'm talking about?
If it's a vintage amp, why the 1987 ?
Quote from: petemooreIf it's a vintage amp, why the 1987 ?
That's simply a Model#, Pete ol' boy.
Regards
RDV
I really like the sound of the 1987 they've got over here:
http://www.proguitar.de/AudioDemo/CompareAmps/CompareAmps.html
Nice...
Doug
Based on the dealing I've had with Brian and Gary and their circuits, I'm willing to bet my right one (that's the one that gets in the way now that my legs are fat anyway) that the TC smokes.
I finally got a breadboard, so I'm giong to make sure before I give it up. I may use J202's just to be safe. 8)
Course it does...and if it doesn't, I expect YOU to figure out how to MAKE it! SmoKe!!
I doubt it'll take much if you use the right parts and wire it correctly or debug the Shout of it!!!
Because I Have a Modded TC right here, and can tell you, it IS the most powerful handgun in the world...and can blow your'e head clean off...so tell me...do ya feel lucky...well do ya???
It sounds almost exactly like a guitar I know
Hi WGTP,
How different do the J202's sound compared to J201's? More gain than your average J201?
Thanks, Jered
I haven't gotten to the TC yet, but in a Mu Amp the answer is yes. I think they have more transconductance, whatever that is. I like how that sounds. 8)