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Title: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: arielfx on June 02, 2004, 06:18:14 PM
i just bought a can of black enamel paint ($3). i read some good things about painting with enamel, mostly that's is very durable. i would be happy to switch my current  painting method because it takes about 3 days to complete a box and i have to use too much materials which is making the entire thing expensive.

i know that enamel paint is usually baked but this is the strange part. the can has no using instructions on it. all that it says on it is to use a primer before use and to keep the surface clean (surprise surprise).

how should I use this color? I am only asking because I would hate to kill another hammond box like I did when testing painting methods. I killed about 5 boxes and it's a shame...
Title: Re: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: Eric H on June 02, 2004, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: arielfx

how should I use this color? I am only asking because I would hate to kill another hammond box like I did when testing painting methods. I killed about 5 boxes and it's a shame...

Paint stripper.
Painting is a skill --keep trying

-Eric
Title: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: arielfx on June 02, 2004, 06:52:36 PM
i actually did try to use it on one box. i got this paint remover called "stripa" :)
you shouldn't touch it, smell it or even think about it because you could get yourself hurt.
anway it takes off the paint after sitting on it for about 10 minutes but it makes such a mess that i don't think i'll use it again.
Title: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: Lonestarjohnny on June 02, 2004, 08:05:08 PM
Easyoff oven cleaner, like your mom use's, set the pedal in the sun, paint the cleaner on it, I've never used the spray bomb so I don't know if it works as good, wait about 3o min's for the pedal to warm up in the sun, apply the cleaner with a brush and on fresh paint wait about 10 min's and wipe off with paper towel's, as easy as 1,2,3. I've used this to take paint off of tolex covered amp's, sometime's it take's 2 or 3 applications to get it all off and a stiff brush, I use a Brass brush for real tuff stuff that's been on the amp for ages, and this is'nt gonna harm you as quick as industrial strength stripper. just washup with warm soapy water and the pedal case too ! then your ready to repaint.
JD
Title: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: arielfx on June 02, 2004, 08:22:31 PM
thanks for the tip. maybe i'll try it out this weekend!

this gets me back to painting... so i should apply the paint over the primer and back for 30 - 45 minutes at 150 or less?

i guess that some kind of protective layer is a good idea. i have some polymer based clearn coast that sucks because it will never be as hard as real laqure and that's very expensive over here.

maybe i should try baking it as well?
Title: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: Eric H on June 02, 2004, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: arielfxthanks for the tip. maybe i'll try it out this weekend!

this gets me back to painting... so i should apply the paint over the primer and back for 30 - 45 minutes at 150 or less?
That should work fine.
Quote from: arielfx
i guess that some kind of protective layer is a good idea. i have some polymer based clearn coast that sucks because it will never be as hard as real laqure and that's very expensive over here.
maybe i should try baking it as well?

Real enamel should flow-out in the oven to a smooth, hard finish that doesn't really look like anything else, and I hate to put anything on top.
I wouldn't bake anything but enamel.

-Eric
Title: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: arielfx on June 02, 2004, 08:58:51 PM
i'll tell you why i am asking... i have silk screening prints that i currenty use. nowdays i spary a clear coat of poly-something that bons with the color to make a really hard finish but i guess it won't bond with the enamel, other than that the finish is not smooth. it looks like power coasting!
i am wondering what should put over the silk screening so it will stay on there well?
Title: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: Paul Perry (Frostwave) on June 02, 2004, 09:51:36 PM
Quote from: arielfxi am wondering what should put over the silk screening so it will stay on there well?
Generally speaking, if a paint layer isn't adhering well to the layer underneath, nothing you put on top will help much. Unfortunately.
You may be using 'fabric' silk screen paints.
Title: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: arielfx on June 03, 2004, 02:13:24 AM
do you happen to know what name of the color i should use for silk printing?

the same stuff used on commercial effects i guess (??!!?)
Title: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: Paul Perry (Frostwave) on June 03, 2004, 05:47:56 AM
I  don't know the name dfor the ink used, the people who do my commercial boxes mix some hardener wiht it & bake it, but it isn't baked incredibly hot, they use like a clothes drying cabinet arrangement. I know if they leave the 'hardener' out, it rubs off :oops:
Title: wierd enamel spray can?
Post by: Torchy on June 03, 2004, 08:10:39 AM
I just used a can of radiator enamel spray paint on my Easyvibe ... went on matt and overnight it turned satin. Four coats and it's set as hard as nails. Shame about the plum colour but it looked good on the cap  :oops: