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Title: Germanium Wah??
Post by: Markusk on July 07, 2004, 06:48:43 AM
Hi out there,
:D is there anyone who ever build a Wah with Germanium trans? Has anyo. a schem for one :?:
Title: Germanium Wah??
Post by: R.G. on July 07, 2004, 10:48:36 AM
You may want to read the Guitar Effects FAQ at GEO.

There is no magic in something simply being germanium. There are a very few selected circuits where germanium's unique characteristics are useful, even critical. For all others, there is no mojo in something merely being germanium. What it does is expose all of germanium's problems without any advantages.

It is possible to make a germanium wah. It's just that the classic inductor wah is one place where germanium offers no advantages to offset its disadvantages.
Title: Germanium Wah??
Post by: Roland on July 07, 2004, 11:54:00 AM
Most wahs out there use high gain low noise transistors. I think a germanium transistor wah utilizing very low hfe values would make an interesting build . I ran into a situation where a very special fuzz would not work with an even more special wah . It turned out that this wah used very low hfe transistors.

Another factor would be the overdrive characteristics should the wah be overdriven.
Title: Germanium Wah??
Post by: Paul Marossy on July 07, 2004, 04:13:07 PM
They might be kinda cool in a fuzz-wah...
Title: Germanium Wah??
Post by: Stuart on July 07, 2004, 05:36:13 PM
Marshall Supa Wahs had germanium transistors.  Low gain, so a very thin tone with no low end.  Stick with silicon for wahs.
Title: Germanium Wah??
Post by: Arno van der Heijden on July 07, 2004, 08:20:41 PM
Stuart, what gains do you recommend for the classic wah sound?
Does it matter which transistor has highest gain?
Title: Germanium Wah??
Post by: phillip on July 07, 2004, 08:25:55 PM
Back when I built my Clyde McCoy clone, Stuart advised be to use transistors with gains of between 300 -350.  A pair of BC109Bs do the trick perfectly, and they sound superb.  I've been using BC109Bs with those gains in almost all the wahs that I've modified.

The highest gain transistor should go in Q1 and the lowest gain in Q2.

Phillip
Title: .
Post by: petemoore on July 08, 2004, 09:55:58 AM
I have two V847's.
 #1 has the MPSA18's.
 #2 uses BC109's.
 They sound different...
 Can anyone help Identify the Inductors?
 #1 has a black-grey can, flat top,
 #2 has a Black grey can, but with what looks like an epoxied over nut & threads.