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Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: GreenEye on August 27, 2004, 11:26:16 AM
I noticed that in another post, VDM mentioned putting two pedals in one box, which sounded ingenious to me.  I thought it may be a good discussion for another thread.

I wonder what the best way to hook the two together would be.  You could have them directly connected with only one type of output sound (I guess you could use one large perf board or two smaller ones.  Or, you could have a switch (toggle or foot I guess) that could change betweeen the two.  Or, maybe you could even have a blend pot?  Would each have its own "drive," "tone," etc., or would they share it?

I may try it with two simple designs, like an easy face and a tube reamer.
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: jasonober on August 27, 2004, 11:35:21 AM
i'm preparing to build a tube screamer/tube driver/ boost in one box     I'm going to wire the circuits end to end so any combination of the 3 can be used          previously i've built 2 LPBs in one box that are switched either one or the other with different cap values  one side is .1uf  regular boost   other side is .022 more of a treble boost
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: Torchy on August 27, 2004, 11:55:11 AM
Built a two-stage clean boost, with cascade option. Just two identical boosts, independantly switchable, true bypass, grounded input ....

(http://server5.uploadit.org/files/Torchy-Switching.jpg)

edit ... oh, and a master volume on the second stage ...
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: RDV on August 27, 2004, 12:04:40 PM
Here's one way, in series, or individually.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/rickydon/Two_in_1_wiring.gif)

RDV
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: Danny G on August 27, 2004, 02:01:01 PM
Thanks RDV, I've been wondering about something like this myself!
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: YouAre on August 27, 2004, 02:22:59 PM
I REALLY did not like the idea of effects being hardwired in series, that's why i sold my h2o. i like my delay pre distortion but my chorus post distortion, let that be a little caveat
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: morganpedals on August 27, 2004, 02:28:25 PM
I'm working on something like this myself. All in one box I have an old boss limiter, bazz fuss, mixer, and uglyface. I have an input that runs into the input of the limiter.  I ran the output of the limiter directly into channel one of my 4 channel simple mixer for clean. I also ran the limiter out to my bazz fuss in. The bazz fuss out goes to channel 2 of the mixer. Then I have an uglyface in and out jacks on the back, and channel 4 mixer in on the back. This gives me some flexibility to add some external pedals into the mixer.

I'm pretty happy with it so far. I am powering all of the effects up with a godlyke power supply, so I only have one plugin. I plan on building a delay next, and Ill probably add the in and out jacks on the back for this.

After I get it pretty, I'll post some pics.
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: bwanasonic on August 27, 2004, 02:52:17 PM
I have been thinking about a 2-in-1 pedal with a loop insert between the two circuits that would would function as a TBP loop. My plan is - In > AMZ Mosfet Boost > TBP Loop > Fetzer > Out.

Kerry M
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: Johnny Guitar on August 27, 2004, 03:19:54 PM
I did this when I built two PAiA pedals: a bass fuzz and a compressor in one box. I figured I'd never use them at the same time and I could save a few bucks by cutting down on the cost of jacks and the box.

Now for my guitar, what I'd like to do is take the output of the guitar into a buffer ("what! Sacralige!") and then split that into several different effects chains. Just selecting between one of many outputs to the guitar amp.

For example: having one or two overdrive circuits (like a Tube Screamer) three or four fuzz circuits (Fuzz Face, Foxx Tone Machine, Big Muff Pi), a couple of filter and phaser circuits (Univibe, Mutron, MXR Phase 90, Roland Jet Phaser). Mount all the effects in a rack -- like the PAiA Frac Rack. Make a switch board that controls the indexing between different effects chains.

I figure if R G Keen's Millenium switching scheme makes a couple of more generations in development, and if GGG offers some etched boards and relays, CMOS, or other switching ideas I'll be set.

J
Title: >
Post by: petemoore on August 27, 2004, 04:06:54 PM
wel heck yeahh
saves on jack<cable< and power suPPLy suPPLies.
makes for a smaller gig bag that does it all
makes you more dePendant >>JUST  because there are two bypASS Switches to think of.
 i find that boost in front of fuzz is lIke a given as a good thing to do< it'S sure you can probably get a hit' [cool sound} with the booster before fuzz tyPe sound.
 someone wrote booster into booster< also a cool one. fuzz into amp emulator is worthy of mentioning>
 many of the songs that use fuzz< i leave the fuzz on for the whole song< but need added drive for leads<<<<i'm a big fan of stage amp sound<<<
 i use alot of pedals< and this makes the stage neater also<
 using a larger enclosure makes the thing hold still on the floor better also>
 three in one>..why not? i'd suggest some Planning of the layout< and watch out for noise ENTERING into it [PUters messing with the cAPs, i'm too lazy and it don't dEleTE right Either} daft
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: jazzyfingers04 on August 27, 2004, 05:35:54 PM
I did this with my first build. I made 2 dod 250 pedals and wired them in series. The fun part is that I took the output of cct A to an spdt then used that to toggle between using cct B in direct series and then to an output or using an output jack as a means of looping and then having another input for cct B.
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: vdm on August 27, 2004, 08:41:36 PM
hey for anyone that hasn't read RG's 'Jimi in a box' article, it is a must for anyone thinking about putting multiple effects in one box. My idea that you mentioned is just fuzz-->amp emulator, and this works a treat IMO so i'm just simply wiring the thing like 2 separate boxes without the jacks between them, and a common power supply and ground.

trent
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: JT on August 28, 2004, 09:16:38 PM
Can you point me in the direction of that Jimi in a Box Article l? I couldn't seem to find it
Thanks!
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: jjucius on August 28, 2004, 10:41:30 PM
Heres the one i put together and it works and sounds great
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/jjucius-Top.jpg
it's a vibe with speed pedal a fuzz and an octavia. i used 3pdt switches, wired the input to the first one then out to in ect then just hooked up each effect to it's switch and done. :D
Title: !
Post by: GreenEye on August 28, 2004, 11:27:45 PM
Wow, three in one with a pedal to boot!  Nice.
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: vdm on August 29, 2004, 12:40:12 AM
http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/jiab/jiab.htm

the wondrous jimi-in-a-box

trent
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: dubs on August 30, 2004, 10:05:46 PM
So would the layouts supply 9 volts to each effect? Wouldn't you need to use a max1044 to supply 9 volts to each circuit?
Title: Two Pedals in One Box
Post by: Ansil on August 31, 2004, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: YouAreI REALLY did not like the idea of effects being hardwired in series, that's why i sold my h2o. i like my delay pre distortion but my chorus post distortion, let that be a little caveat

thats why you just do the mod that they talk about on their site and add the fx loop in it.  personally i hate visual sound because they are antichrist Nazi's or at least bob is.  but thats just my opinion in talking to him. still i do like the h2o pedal