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Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 08, 2005, 06:39:24 PM
OK GUYS THIS IS THE WARP FACTOR DISTORTION ORIGINAL PICS...

INSIDE AND OUTSIDE I REPAIR THIS FRIEND UNIT ( DIODE COME FROM VOLTAGE WAS FRIED! )


ENJOY

http://photobucket.com/albums/v669/teknoblaster/diy/?

btw im sorry for pics :( i can't read well the ic's value  :cry:
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Arno van der Heijden on March 08, 2005, 06:55:05 PM
Wow, that looks pretty complicated for a distortion unit.
BTW, that are some HUGE electrolytic caps... Does it run on 9 volt? Or is there a charge pump involved?
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 08, 2005, 07:01:37 PM
it's not 9 Volts unit, this big guy works whit 14V external power supply, the midle push B. is a boost for AMP Racks Unit.... i test this effect and WOW have very agressive Distortion and you can play any kind  of distortion..... great overdrive to Metal Monster .... im  impressed whit this unit.....

the Transistor is 2N5089 ...... and only have 1, but have many Germanium Diodes... the pot's value is : Warp ( 1M ) Gain ( 250k ) Vol(100k)... when i press the Boost B.  

enjoy!
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 08, 2005, 07:30:39 PM
This is the info i found about WARP FACTOR :

It's the first stomp box that injects Nu Metal energy into every amp. Simply set the selector to Combo or Halfstack, insert it between your guitar and your amp's clean channel, and there you have it - that dark, heavy chunk that would otherwise cost you thousands of dollars to conjure up. That sought-after drop-D sound is the product of highly charged, low-frequency energy that no battery-powered circuit can deliver. That's why the WARP FACTORâ,,¢ get its juice from a wall wart.
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 08, 2005, 10:45:38 PM
this unit is like hell, better than :

Proco Rat Distortion, Ds-1, Boss Metalzone, Etc......
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: jimbob on March 08, 2005, 11:34:25 PM
anyone gonna trace it? reverse it?
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 09, 2005, 12:46:32 AM
I dunno, but i order 1 , i test 1 unit from a friend after repeair ( 1 Diode from 14v burns ) when i test the unit to see if ok  holly SH*@^#!
this one of the best distortion i ever play and have great gain and sustain WOW i loved........ oh yeah the boost button was incredible! put my amp in heaven!

im going to make some sound's demo when i get my Effect
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Joep on March 09, 2005, 02:54:37 AM
Quoteanyone gonna trace it? reverse it?

I can give it a try, but I need more and higher-resolution pics.

j0shua, can provide more pics? Send me a pm

Bye,

Joep
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: jjs on March 09, 2005, 10:13:29 AM
Quoteanyone gonna trace it? reverse it?

I could try to help here, too.
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 09, 2005, 11:04:59 AM
Joep:

i send you a pm, and added you to MSN , i have more pics about , the photosite resize the images
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 09, 2005, 02:07:32 PM
more pics of warp and ic names  the web page
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Arno van der Heijden on March 09, 2005, 02:18:42 PM
where?
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 09, 2005, 02:46:35 PM
This one! hehehehehe!


http://photobucket.com/albums/v669/teknoblaster/diy/?
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: jjs on March 09, 2005, 05:08:35 PM
Started tracing...

The power supply for this is 14 AC, right? They are using a Delon voltage doubler to get V+ and V- power supply of about 20V. They must be a bit paranoid of ripple noise, because filter capacity is 8800 uF (the 4 big electolytic capacitors) and they also seem to use zener diodes.
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 09, 2005, 09:25:33 PM
Yeah, german don't made garbage hehehehehe, german do very well the things :) ...... Thanks God! .....
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: samzeppelin on March 10, 2005, 06:56:42 AM
do u got any sound samples?
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Rob Strand on March 10, 2005, 08:02:55 AM
Almost there. Despite looking complex, it's not.  Opamps, diode clippers, EQ.  Quite a few stages but nothing complicated.

I'm not too sure about the chip marked CPAP0230, what's the number above it?

One of the diodes D1, D2 is a zener (I think D1) could you check the labelling for the value?   At this point that's the only "funny" diode.

Some of the values, particulary the caps, and especially the small blue ones and the electro's are not readable.  A cap list would help a lot.

Thanks for posting the pics!!!


Hey Joep - are youi going to take a stab at this one too?
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Arno van der Heijden on March 10, 2005, 08:33:17 AM
Quote from: Rob StrandI'm not too sure about the chip marked CPAP0230, what's the number above it?

I think the number is "3079P", so I'm voting for a MC33079P quad opamp.
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 10, 2005, 11:09:55 AM
yes it's 3079p the 14 pins Ic second number

a cap list hmmmm i can try but i don't have the unit here :( im just repair faster and get some pics..... btw i get a sound sample
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Arno van der Heijden on March 11, 2005, 06:58:52 AM
Rob, how's the tracing coming along?
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: kusi on March 11, 2005, 08:37:30 AM
i have here the schema. wait some weeks, i must drawn it new....

greetings kusi  8)
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 11, 2005, 10:23:29 AM
exelent Kusi thanks



Btw i have the BOSS Xtortion schematic if someone wana see just post a msg or pm me
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Joep on March 11, 2005, 02:40:10 PM
QuoteHey Joep - are youi going to take a stab at this one too?

Haha, unfortunaltely I've been busy around the house the last few days and I only had a quit look....

Bye,

Joep
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 11, 2005, 06:00:51 PM
it's just about time :)

btw i found schematic of BOSS X-TORTION
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: ninoman123 on March 11, 2005, 11:14:36 PM
How does this pedal sound? Anything worth building. Im sure those huge caps cost a pretty penny. Which ICs does it use. Im excited about this. If it sounds good ill build it. After I box up these other 3 pedals.... :oops:
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Rob Strand on March 12, 2005, 12:27:59 AM
Thanks for the info on the opamp - I can see that now on some of j0shua's new pics.

QuoteRob, how's the tracing coming along?

I've finished the "business" part of the circuit but not the 405x switching stuff.  Didn't do anything yesterday since I was too stuffed to concentrate :).  I traced the first half of the ckt  from j0shua's early pics and I didn't write down the components designators and the part values (since it took too long to decipher the blurry images).   I need to go over it again with the cleaner pics and fill in some part value blanks.   That's going to take some time because a lot of values aren't easy to see - I wouldn't mind some second/third opinions on some of the part values (any takers?).

If anyone wants to clone this the values need to be right in a lot of places - the EQ stage is more elaborate than usual.   The uncertainty of which diodes of D1 through D6 are silicon and zeners, and the unknown zener voltage of the zener, will have an effect too.

To summarize in more detail (but still leaving out some details, like high freq roll-off here and there):

- Non-inverting opamp stage
- Non-inverting opamp stage
- Gain control: Volume control with treble cap across terminals 2 and 3 (like amps have)
- Non inverting gain stage with treble boost
- Inverting gain stage with one set of feedback diode diodes pointing same direction.  Presumable to emulate a tube.
- Inverting gain stage with one set of feedback diode diodes pointing same direction.  Presumable to emulate a second tube.  LF roll-off on input of this stage.
- Level control (simple volume control connection)
- Warp control - this is a sort of modified bassman type tone control where a dual pot is used for the mid, bass and treble.   The circuit has been adjusted to give an sort of overall tone control adjustment with one pot.  The output of this stage is buffered.
- Equalizer stage.  Uses has three peaking equalizers.  One, which which is switched out with the sub switch, is low frequency peak.

Some opamps run from single supply other dual.

Overall I'd say it is roughly trying to emulate a Marshall tube preamp.

Hope this gives a reasonable enough overview to tame people's curiosity for now.  Don't know when I'll get a chance to finish it - never mind drawing it up!!!.
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 12, 2005, 01:12:26 AM
this is some parts of the warp values :

14 pins IC # 3079p ( cpap0230 )
16 PINS IC #HCF4053BE
8 PINS IC #1 = NE5532P
1C 2 AND 3 ARE # MC33078P

pot's value

gain = 100k   warp = 100k  vol= 150k

enjoy!
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: kusi on March 12, 2005, 06:21:50 AM
the ic`s are right!

but the pots:
gain: 50k log, level 25k log, warp: 50k lin (dual pot)!

i have the orginal schematic... next week, i finish my redrawn!

greetings kusi
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 12, 2005, 12:59:44 PM
thanks kusi about the pots....


i read bad the values about the pots ........ :oops:
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Rob Strand on March 14, 2005, 02:33:59 AM
Thanks for the info.

I think  I'm wasting my time drawing up a schematic from the trace if kusi can redraw it from the original!
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 14, 2005, 02:48:35 AM
schematics come soon!

i have a sound demo , but is late here 3:30 AM im just arrive from band concert ... i post tomorrow :)
Title: Think - it ain`t illegal yet (George Clinton)
Post by: puretube on March 14, 2005, 04:49:13 AM
sorry, but why not click:
the 1st link in the 1st post that caused this topic,
(http://diystompboxes.com/sboxforum/viewtopic.php?t=30743&highlight=),

click: "site",
click: "deutsch" or "english",
click: "sound samples",

and so on... to hear samples played by a certain Paul Crook (Meatloaf/Anthrax).
:?:
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 14, 2005, 11:14:16 AM
yeah!

the original page :)
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: z-zero on March 14, 2005, 02:05:19 PM
I bought one of these from musicians friend for $50, best $50 I ever spent, it replaced my MXR doubleshot in my rig setup. Very cool, its got a low-end boost button thats setup for combo, or half-stack. Top quality componets for the mojo crowd. It does tend to suck the highs away quite abit, looking forward to the schematic so I can do a quick mod to get some highs back. Closest stack in-a-box sound I've heard from a stomp box. Great distortion, the warp control in the center is subtle but it really changes the overall feel/touch sensitivity of the tone. great harmonic distortion.

z-zero
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: kusi on March 14, 2005, 04:42:47 PM
i hope, that i can finish the redrawn tomorrow....  i hope, you can wait :wink:


greetings kusi
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 14, 2005, 04:58:54 PM
cool kusi... of course we can wait :D
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: kusi on March 14, 2005, 05:29:14 PM
:wink:  you now what i mean ...


greetz
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: boydpost on March 14, 2005, 07:06:54 PM
Quote from: Joep
Quoteanyone gonna trace it? reverse it?

I can give it a try, but I need more and higher-resolution pics.

j0shua, can provide more pics? Send me a pm

Bye,

Joep

I admire your enthusiasm.  But before you put too much energy into what looks like a complicated project you should be aware that you can buy this pedal new online for about 50 USD...Sam Ash is blowing them out.  I'm looking at these pictures and imagining the parts alone costing more than that.  But if you're doing it as a challenge or to mod, then thats a different story.
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 14, 2005, 10:05:58 PM
to boydpost:

i have 1 WARP Factor unit  and is very cool and complex pedal .... and if we do the schematic we can mod :)
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: kusi on March 15, 2005, 04:50:22 AM
hi @ all

here, have fun.... :wink:

http://forum.musikding.de/attachements/HK_Warp_Factor.jpg


greetings  kusi / KHE
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 15, 2005, 08:11:11 AM
EXLENT  WORK KUSI .......
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: z-zero on March 15, 2005, 09:15:52 AM
Kusi, you are the man!

Thanks!

z-zero
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: jimbob on March 15, 2005, 11:58:14 AM
very nice!
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: strungout on March 15, 2005, 06:56:47 PM
Thnx. Looks interesting  :P
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Rob Strand on March 16, 2005, 03:11:49 AM
Thanks!
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: kusi on March 16, 2005, 05:31:18 AM
hi @ all

here, more stuff  8)

http://forum.musikding.de/attachements/Zoom_Tri_Metal.jpg

i hope you like it...

greetings
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Nikolay on March 16, 2005, 06:03:32 AM
waiting for PCB  :D  :D  :D
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: j0shua on March 16, 2005, 09:42:36 AM
hmmm cool schematic  :D  once again Kusi GREAT JOB!
Title: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: Joep on March 16, 2005, 10:15:53 AM
I own a Tri-Metal myself and it's a SERIOUS pedal. It's very quite considered it's a high gain pedal.

Bye,

Joep
Title: Re: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: A.S.P. on August 05, 2006, 01:13:39 PM
why build???

http://www.thomann.de/de/hugheskettner_warp_factor_uk.htm
Title: Re: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: davebungo on August 05, 2006, 05:18:19 PM
That's just amazing is it not?  £13

I have seen the Behringer pedals also - every one in the range is £13.  !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: THE WARP FACTOR ORIGINAL PICS !
Post by: MartyMart on August 05, 2006, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: A.S.P. on August 05, 2006, 01:13:39 PM
why build???

http://www.thomann.de/de/hugheskettner_warp_factor_uk.htm

Thanks ASP , ordered 2 !! :D

MM.