yahhhh it's me, TT,
it's so cool that we can make , almost any effect. But lets play ,too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fx has changed my play'n thru the yr's and that is truely great!!
i just want the players out in the line of fire to ,be able to show off the greatness that they do.
- tom
hahahaha
I wish I was just "good" on guitar.
I used to be more of a player, then mroe and more of my practice time went to building effects.
I kinda suck. But its ok, becuase I know it.
A great man once emailed me this quote:
Quotewhats important is the music we make with the pedals we build
I will never forget that.
or the music other people make with the pedals we build...
or getting laid, partially becuase of the pedals we build...
Quote from: Hal on November 10, 2005, 11:48:21 PM
or getting laid, partially becuase of the pedals we build...
That's worked for you?
female guitar players in need of guitar repair and overly satisfied with there repairs oh yes that makes the world go round for me when i was down in florida. not so much now in Tn. but who knows
That's precisely why I have virtually stopped building stuff over the last year or so. Once in a while a circuit comes along that is interesting enough to build. Anyway, I want to spend more time playing my guitar instead of building, building, building. I am amazed at how much my playing suffered during the couple of years that I was really heavy into building stuff! I am just now getting back to the level where I was before I went on my DIY Trek. :icon_eek:
Nice Thread TT,
I have slowed down my building a some too. I have had probably 20 different fuzz pedals on my board. Now I am back to the 1st one I ever built, a simple bazz fuss. Every now and then I think a song might need something like an octave or whatever, I am very gratefull that I have a storage box full of hand built effects. Nice to have when recording too.
It all goes in cycles for me.
Some mornings i can't get enough cruising that archives trying to learn more about modulation from Vsat, RG, or Hammer's posts.
Some days all I want to do is play my 18watt clone cranked without any effects?
I agree,
It is what is done with the effects tht is most important.
ry
One of my true heroes, composer Charles Ives, wrote in his Essays before a Sonata: "My god, what does sound have to do with music?!" Ives had pretty much moved beyond how things sounded on instruments, and into the realm of music as conceptual art. How things *sounded*, and whether the notes could be played (he often had difficulty finding professional musicians in New York who *could* play his music), or whether they would be sweet when played, was almost moot and a hindrance to him. There ARE days when I wish I could hit all those notes I have in my head, and even the notes I had in my head 20 years ago. Sometimes, though, I'm with Chucky-boy - it's just the idea of the possible. Making it actually happen, well that's just icing on the cake.
Sound (and fingers) have something to do with music, I guess, but they aren't everything. One of the great things that Bob Moog left us with was the option to look at a schematic, and just drift away imagining the sonic possibilities. We didn't even have to hear them or produce them. It was almost just enough to know they could be done. Certainly the beautiful sounds made with circuits gave us reason to look at schematics and design, but once the knowledge of the possible was established, it allowed mere ideas to be beautiful.
Besides, it's all relative, right? I mean B.B. King wishes HE was "great on guitar", and the rest of us just wish we were B.B. KIng.
This is all very funny to me because my pedal building suffers from my guitar playing, as well as my fathering, husbanding, etc.
RDV
Funny, I found myself playing more as I tweaked the various circuits on the bread board. Some were really inspiring and resulted in new riffs and tunes. :icon_cool:
i build more than i play, but it's not by choice , per say. TROUBLEDVARIANCE keeps me busy, in a good way.
  but when i play w/ my band , i don't worry about lifes bullshit and all that comes w/ it.
i'm known in this area - as other people put it ' a total bad ass on guitar' , they don't get it at all w/ the FX i make.
  to funny.............. oh well.  i'll just keep fooling them on guitar. i'm really not that good, i just play, "out of the box, so to speak". i play punkbastardjazzmathmetal and i do it my way. i'f i'm not making millions of $$$$$$$, i'll do as i wish at all times. now that we have been signed by SONICAGE RECORDS in athens greece i'll put up the good fight and keep it real. i will only sign for 1 release at a time. ohh.... and that's after it's recorded. i'd rather be a legend in my on mind,
than a pop music whore. but that's me. it's crazy,.............. i was asked to be signed and even they don't get the fact that i sell devices................ Â crazy i say!
  ohh and all you pop music whores , live it up have fun . because i don't listen to your music, but that's ok,
i mean it :icon_razz: plenty of room for all music in my book, besides most rap. but if you want to see the biggest
bang for the buck T&A bonce'n'round go to a cypress hill concert , it was crazy. i think i say 'crazy' too much :icon_twisted:
  anyway, don't let the dust settle on your guitar or whatever else your play'n.
        rock on,
          peace,
            - tom
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Quote from: WGTP on November 11, 2005, 04:21:25 PM
Funny, I found myself playing more as I tweaked the various circuits on the bread board. Some were really inspiring and resulted in new riffs and tunes.  :icon_cool:
that's why i started making my own stuff, for ME. now people want them too. so it takes up most my time.
but you my friend are truly right.
right on!
- tt
What is more disturbing is that you dont have time and you have the skill and equipment to really have some fun!!! I have never, and I am quite old, met the right people to play a good situation with..KINDA SUCKS after all these years..I meet egos so big they are the reincarnation of Jimmy Page or Jeff Beck( enter your own)...I try and try to play WITH repeat WITH others and all they want to do is play there latest loudest lead track and than say, I have had enough.....At times I say I am going to try and set something up again and you always end up with these ROCK STARS!!!!!....So I play alone and maybe one day I will fall into a good situation but as it has been I get all the (HEY CHECK THIS OUT ) ....and move on.......I guess now I am over the hill......
I think I've just about caught the disease too...and I'm only 16! :icon_mrgreen:
I think I spend more time tinkering with knobs and wiring more than i play....maybe, maybe not....soon when I gain some more knowlege about electroncs (thanks to you lol) I'll be seriously ill with the DIY disease.
I hate my genetics...all the other men in my family are tone freaks too....constantly soldering things to make it all sound better. All I want is to sound as good as Dave Gilmour. :icon_cool:
QuoteFunny, I found myself playing more as I tweaked the various circuits on the bread board. Some were really inspiring and resulted in new riffs and tunes.
I've had those experiences, too. :icon_wink:
get a sound and go! getting more sounds is ALWAYS cool too ,, for sure.
.........................................if, you really want to know .......................half my shit is in parrell.[ sp?]
sick and love'n it.
-t
I just had a good long session with the amp 'n speak setup I'm really liking today.
Last thing I built and put together the other day when I got the tank was the SCRU, I'm still running it a little heavy, making up for lost time and hearing the springs go.
EZV, Wah, Tycho [then GR], FF, Rev, RCA [similar to a Deluxe in many ways including tube types].
This is quite a fun setup, good for hours of various enjoyments, Octave dies out of the mix after a while, generally ending up with clean, reverb, maybe phase, lots of notes, chords, phrasing/timing changes ... etc. I call it 'concert guitar' ... I can clean up and play songs [like for jammin' with the guys and gals] but prefer just playing, which works great mainly with a drummer, sometimes if the lead gets going and I'm on rythm, or vice versa "we" can play...but if there's a 'songster' in the group these jams [which I personally think are the highlights of the get togethers], never seem to get going good.
I have no problem playing alone, the amp and guitar just sound better when everything is set up and the amp is turned on !!!
Quote from: rockindutchboy on November 11, 2005, 05:52:22 PM
I think I've just about caught the disease too...and I'm only 16! :icon_mrgreen:
I think I spend more time tinkering with knobs and wiring more than i play....maybe, maybe not....soon when I gain some more knowlege about electroncs (thanks to you lol) I'll be seriously ill with the DIY disease.
I hate my genetics...all the other men in my family are tone freaks too....constantly soldering things to make it all sound better. All I want is to sound as good as Dave Gilmour. :icon_cool:
Woot, I beat you! I'm 15 ;D Well, I'm 16 in 13 days.. But anyway, David Gilmour is incredible, I wish more people our age were into good music like Pink Floyd.. I have a couple of friends who are.
I find that I'm not very good at guitar, and I know I will only get good by practising, but I will never be 'great' at guitar. I have more chance of being good at making (and eventually designing) electronic circuits than playing guitar, and I love making things. But it has only inspired me to play my guitar more, which is good.
Balance .... i believe its the one thing you need to keep it real :icon_cool:
Recently i kinda spent too much time tweaking till my kids started calling uncle ... just kidding :icon_mrgreen: ... i guess they will if i don't have the balance ... what more when it comes to jammin.
QuoteI know I will only get good by practising, but I will never be 'great' at guitar.
As a man determines in his heart, so shall he be. Don't be afraid to believe in yourself, you might just surprise yourself!
Guitar isn't my first instrument, piano/bass is.
I think I'm about "maxed out" with DIY stompers now !! :icon_eek:
Still a few to "de-bug" including a vero P90 which just makes "swooshing white noise"
sounds ... ?
I have around 100 built, perhaps more and around 30 are boxed up ! oops !
I've been playing a lot recently, out of necessity 'cos the band I'm producing just
sacked it's guitarists !! ( they sucked BTW )
Anyway, practice makes perfect :D
Dont forget to play when you build ....
Marty.
Practising makes you only good at practising. :)
I personally don't like to call it practising. To me, the word means something repetitive and dull, like sports. Sure, if you play scales up and down all the day, that's practising. But I usually just play. When I get the urge to pick up the guitar, the first thing I do is record a chord progression. Then I play it as an infinite loop and just let it all out for the next few hours. I don't think one would call that practising. And I love it.
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Jimbo
It is fun to have two players playing that chord progression and switch off, can get some cool mixing in there...........i have had fun like you do with a looper too......Thats all I really do now.....Mostly though I go off in a key and just keep making up a song as it goes ......some is crap some I wish i could do again!!!!!
Quote from: Stevo on November 12, 2005, 03:03:49 PM
It is fun to have two players playing that chord progression and switch off, can get some cool mixing in there...........i have had fun like you do with a looper too......Thats all I really do now.....Mostly though I go off in a key and just keep making up a song as it goes ......some is crap some I wish i could do again!!!!!
Yeah, that's what we do at band rehearsals with a guitar and a bass. One is backing shile the other is soloing, then we switch, etc etc. And then we both shut up and sit back for a 20-minute drum solo.
Gotta looooove jammin'.
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Jimbo
Quote from: JimRayden on November 12, 2005, 03:39:09 PM
Quote from: Stevo on November 12, 2005, 03:03:49 PM
It is fun to have two players playing that chord progression and switch off, can get some cool mixing in there...........i have had fun like you do with a looper too......Thats all I really do now.....Mostly though I go off in a key and just keep making up a song as it goes ......some is crap some I wish i could do again!!!!!
Yeah, that's what we do at band rehearsals with a guitar and a bass. One is backing shile the other is soloing, then we switch, etc etc. And then we both shut up and sit back for a 20-minute drum solo.
Gotta looooove jammin'.
damn right, and record it !
- tt
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Jimbo
Quote from: robbiemcm on November 11, 2005, 09:48:27 PM
Woot, I beat you! I'm 15 ;D Well, I'm 16 in 13 days.. But anyway, David Gilmour is incredible, I wish more people our age were into good music like Pink Floyd.. I have a couple of friends who are.
I find that I'm not very good at guitar, and I know I will only get good by practising, but I will never be 'great' at guitar. I have more chance of being good at making (and eventually designing) electronic circuits than playing guitar, and I love making things. But it has only inspired me to play my guitar more, which is good.
lol I dont know if I'd consider myself great at it....but thats just modesty....I guess some people consider me as a prodigy....I'm not bragging cuz i dont like to brag...I'm just saying what the older musicians say. I just have to thank 3 hours of practice everyday for 3 years because I love playing guitar and trying to make music that stands out....not like everyone else's blink 182 crap....so i guess its the ambition and want to stand out that takes you to be "great"
and tweakin your pedals and tone will definitely make you stand out too
QuoteI personally don't like to call it practising. To me, the word means something repetitive and dull, like sports. Sure, if you play scales up and down all the day, that's practising. But I usually just play.
Good point. I just play most of the time, and practice some things for the sake of maintaining/improving technique (and also because my memory isn't the greatest).
Quote from: Paul Marossy on November 12, 2005, 08:09:35 PM
I just play most of the time, and practice some things for the sake of maintaining/improving technique (and also because my memory isn't the greatest).
Well, when I think of a lick I can't play, I practice it alot since I need to keep on evolving too. But although I have 8 years of official musical education under my belt, I've never liked to relate those scales and rules to guitar. To me, the guitar is actually a tool to break away from rules and such music. I could say I'm a whole different animal when playing a guitar compared to, playing a piano.
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Jimbo