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Title: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) LAST PART
Post by: Zero the hero on December 16, 2005, 05:56:36 AM
Hi people,
That's time to share some schems that I've bought and I never seen on the net...
From today till xmas I'll post some circuits and the first on is...

Electro-Harmonix Ambitron
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/AMBITRON.jpg

Then will go on with a beast...
KORG X-911 guitar synth
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/X911-13.jpg

Next one:
Electro-Harmonix DRM-16
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/DRM16-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/DRM16-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/DRM16-3.jpg
Pretty useless, untill we cannot find what's inside the 74s474...

Sorry for the delay!
Boss EH-2 Enhancer service manual
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/EH2-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/EH2-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/EH2-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/EH2-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/EH2-5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/EH2-6.jpg

EH MiniSynth not the MicroSynth!
This was a small keyboard synth produced by electro harmonix
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/minisynth-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/minisynth-2.jpg

EH Percusser
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/percusser.jpg

EH Sonic Boomer already seen on my site
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/SonicBOOMER.jpg

EH Polyphase
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/polyphase.jpg

EH Clap Track Clap synth percussion
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/claptrack1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/claptrack2.jpg

Topopiccione BlueBoob ringmod preview! Not fully tested!!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/blueboob1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/blueboob2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/blueboob3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/blueboob4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/blueboob5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/blueboob6.jpg

Nuova El3ttronica Gu1tar sound process0r scanned from an Italian magazine. Not sure if it's still copyrighted.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/zero_thehero/schematics/GSP14.jpg

THANKS TO EVERYONE!!!!
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: Bernardduur on December 16, 2005, 06:24:28 AM
Wow..... that is one cool effect......

I never heard of it at first, than I read this:
"EH Designer Howard Davis came up with the AMBITRON, a unit to synthesize a stereo effect from a mono input. It was available in at least 2 forms: the floor unit made for guitar use and a rackmount stereo unit for home stereo use. Howard says he designed the Ambitron to get a stereo effect from his mono jazz LPs. Good show, Howard!"

Now I want one!
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: stm on December 16, 2005, 07:31:20 AM
Nice and interesting!

After looking at the cricuit for a while I noticed the following:

1) It has two SAD1024's with all their stages chained and no feedback. This can be readily replaced by an MN3008 or BL3208 at a much reduced cost.

2) It uses the classical NE570 compander for noise reduction--good.

3) The schem doesn't include the clock circuitry. You can see the PHI_1 and PHI_2 indications on the SAD's clock inputs only. My guess is that this clock should be somewhere between 20 kHz and 40 kHz. I don't think of a higher clock, because if short times were needed I don't see the purpose of using two expensive SAD's in series.

4) Interesting by itself is the "Stereo Separation Enhancement" part of the circuit, formed by the two opamps on the upper-left of the upper SAD. Take a look ate the proportions in which the L & R channels are mixed, PLUS the different capacitor values (frequency dependent), and plus the high frequency bleedtrhough 0.0012 uF cap where the (.4R-L) and (.4L-R) labels are.  Certainly worth some simulation :icon_exclaim:   :icon_wink:

Thanks.
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: Marcos - Munky on December 16, 2005, 08:03:36 AM
Cool. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: StephenGiles on December 16, 2005, 08:23:58 AM
I have what may be a prototype circuit for what I think is called EH Quad Synthesiser, I havn't looked at it for a long time. I'll dig it out to see if it bears any resemblance to this one. I'm sure it's from Howard Davis though.
Stephen
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: StephenGiles on December 16, 2005, 08:26:30 AM
Munky - words from English country song:
Lumberjacks are big and tough
And truckers even stronger
But we know when it comes to ridin'
That cowboys stay on longer!

Stephen
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: kusi on December 16, 2005, 11:11:11 AM
thanks a lot, zero by hero!

happy christmas!

Golden Drive (http://forum.musikding.de/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3977.0;id=1485)

greetings,
KHE
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: Phorhas on December 16, 2005, 11:38:32 AM
Thank you very much.
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: toneman on December 16, 2005, 01:14:52 PM
Many thanX  Zero!!

I've been looking 4 that schemo....!!

Kusi,  can't get 2 your Golden Drive.
needs a password...

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Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: kusi on December 16, 2005, 01:31:17 PM
Quote from: toneman on December 16, 2005, 01:14:52 PM


Kusi,  can't get 2 your Golden Drive.
needs a password...



oh, sorry, waite some minutes.....

greetings,
kusi

edit;
works? (http://forum.musikding.de/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0)

Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: StephenGiles on December 16, 2005, 03:44:48 PM
Zero, could you give me a clue as to what scanner settings you used for this one, my copy of the EH Quadriphonic (funny spelling!) Synth looks as if it has been reduced considerably, and in order to get a sensible file size for Photobucket the circuit is very difficult to read.

The clock driver is just a 4047 + 2 caps and a resistor!
Stephen
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: Mark Hammer on December 16, 2005, 03:49:36 PM
This 1981 pricelist ( http://ampage.org/hammer/files/1981_E-H_pricelist.gif ) shows the Ambitron was selling for $185 on sale.
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: stm on December 16, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: kusi on December 16, 2005, 11:11:11 AM
thanks a lot, zero by hero!

happy christmas!

Golden Drive (http://forum.musikding.de/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3977.0;id=1485)

greetings,
KHE

Curious schematic. Looks like there is no high filtering capacitor after the opamp. After C7 there is a 100k to 4.5V with a 1k in series, then another 100k to 4.5V, then C8 (22uF), then another 100k to ground.  Looks like R8, R10 and C8 could be taken out of the circuit without impact.
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: toneman on December 16, 2005, 04:38:26 PM
Kusi,
works good now.
looks like another TS version   ;)
thanx
Merry C
T
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: Marcos - Munky on December 16, 2005, 04:55:27 PM
Quote from: StephenGiles on December 16, 2005, 08:26:30 AM
Munky - words from English country song:
Lumberjacks are big and tough
And truckers even stronger
But we know when it comes to ridin'
That cowboys stay on longer!

Stephen

:P What's the name of this song? It have a cool verse. :P
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: StephenGiles on December 16, 2005, 05:26:18 PM
It's called Cowboys Stay on Longer written by Hank Wangford
http://www.hankwangford.com/
Stephen
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: TheBigMan on December 16, 2005, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: stm on December 16, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: kusi on December 16, 2005, 11:11:11 AM
thanks a lot, zero by hero!

happy christmas!

Golden Drive (http://forum.musikding.de/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3977.0;id=1485)

greetings,
KHE

Curious schematic. Looks like there is no high filtering capacitor after the opamp. After C7 there is a 100k to 4.5V with a 1k in series, then another 100k to 4.5V, then C8 (22uF), then another 100k to ground.  Looks like R8, R10 and C8 could be taken out of the circuit without impact.

My first thought when I looked at it was the quad opamp version of the Boss OD-1 without the static tone control.
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside)
Post by: Zero the hero on December 19, 2005, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: StephenGiles on December 16, 2005, 03:44:48 PM
Zero, could you give me a clue as to what scanner settings you used for this one, my copy of the EH Quadriphonic (funny spelling!) Synth looks as if it has been reduced considerably, and in order to get a sensible file size for Photobucket the circuit is very difficult to read.

The clock driver is just a 4047 + 2 caps and a resistor!
Stephen

I used an HP Scanjet 2200c
100dpi
256 levels of gray
Then some photoshop for improving contrast and scaling it down a bit.
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 2
Post by: Marcos - Munky on December 19, 2005, 08:05:17 AM
 :icon_eek: Wow. This Korg Synth is a beast!!! Who will be the first one to do a layout for it and build a clone? :P
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 2
Post by: StephenGiles on December 19, 2005, 02:51:54 PM
This is the best I can do from a poor copy I have of the EH Quadriphonic Amp + Synthesiser. This is dated a few months prior to the Ambisonic, so most likely a prototype. Merry Christmas!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/uncle_boko/EHquadsynth.gif
Stephen
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 2
Post by: Mark Hammer on December 19, 2005, 03:49:53 PM
Zero,

Your hero statusis hereby confirmed.  Thanks!  I've been wanting to know what's in the X911 for 20 years.

Mark
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 2
Post by: Vsat on December 19, 2005, 04:15:10 PM
Hey Z t H,
Thanks for posting that! Always thought that the X911 was a Korg Sigma with MS-03 pitch-voltage  converter grafted on.. the MS-03 guess was right, but the Sigma part was not... just as well, since the Sigma uses eleven of the Korg 35 filter modules!
Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 2
Post by: Zero the hero on December 20, 2005, 05:49:13 AM
Quote from: StephenGiles on December 19, 2005, 02:51:54 PM
This is the best I can do from a poor copy I have of the EH Quadriphonic Amp + Synthesiser. This is dated a few months prior to the Ambisonic, so most likely a prototype. Merry Christmas!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/uncle_boko/EHquadsynth.gif
Stephen

Thank you!
Too bad, there are plenty of SAD 1024 in these circuits...
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 2
Post by: moosapotamus on December 20, 2005, 12:11:13 PM
Quote from: StephenGiles on December 19, 2005, 02:51:54 PM
This is the best I can do from a poor copy I have of the EH Quadriphonic Amp + Synthesiser. This is dated a few months prior to the Ambisonic, so most likely a prototype. Merry Christmas!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/uncle_boko/EHquadsynth.gif
Stephen

Who would like to volunteer to whittle that down to a mono version?  :icon_mrgreen:

~ Charlie
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: Zero the hero on December 28, 2005, 07:24:21 AM
Still part 11 and 12 pending!
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: stm on December 28, 2005, 08:46:17 AM
Thanks a lot for sharing those schems. Esp the EH-2 with fill service notes.

Do you have Boss PH-2 by chance?
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: Zero the hero on December 28, 2005, 08:57:47 AM
Ihave to check at home but I think I have not this schematic.
There was a forum member that owned this schem and had to scan it (and dozen of unseen Boss service manuals) but I never seen it online!
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: stm on December 28, 2005, 03:42:00 PM
Thanks for the tip. I PM'ed putrefusion (the guy who said he had the schem) to see what happens. On that search I also "discovered" bossarea.com--everything I always wanted to know! So far I'm looking for PH-2, DM-3 & PQ-4.  Sorry for hijacking the thread... back to normal now.   :icon_redface:
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: StephenGiles on December 28, 2005, 05:04:07 PM
Look at the EH Minisynth circuit - there is the classic EH envelope generator around Q1, which drives a filter consisting of IC2 & 3 - a pair of CA3094s. All that is needed is a peak follower to energise the envelope generator and we probably have a half decent triggered filter!!
Stephen
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: loscha on December 28, 2005, 10:43:16 PM
Quote from: Zero the hero on December 28, 2005, 07:24:21 AM
Still part 11 and 12 pending!

I've hunted around with the seach for about 5 minutes, and cannot find the first part!
I've found lots of other hot stuff, though, so, I'm not disappointed at that investment of my time!

Can someone please point me in the right direction?
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: TheBigMan on December 28, 2005, 11:42:18 PM
Quote from: stm on December 28, 2005, 03:42:00 PM
Thanks for the tip. I PM'ed putrefusion (the guy who said he had the schem) to see what happens. On that search I also "discovered" bossarea.com--everything I always wanted to know! So far I'm looking for PH-2, DM-3 & PQ-4.  Sorry for hijacking the thread... back to normal now.   :icon_redface:

I've got the DM-3 schem, I _will_ eventually get around to tracing out the PQ-3B and PQ-4.  :icon_confused:
Thanks for all the schems Zero, I feel almost guilty at only posting the OD-9 now!  ;)

edit:  Here's the URL, it's at GGG.
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/boss/BossDM-3.gif
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: stm on December 29, 2005, 07:39:48 AM
Thanks. If you ever como to trace those please PM me; let me know if there's a Boss schem you might be looking for to see if I have it.
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: Peter Snow on December 29, 2005, 12:39:58 PM
Hey Zero,

Thanks for all the schems - best Xmas gift of all.  Definitely on a par with the pack of Hobgoblin beer my son gave me!

Peter
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: Vsat on December 29, 2005, 02:59:37 PM
Hey,
Just took another look at the X-911 schemos - it actually does use the "Korg-35" filters as used in the Sigma... except these ones are built with regular transistors and FETs on the main board (instead of tiny black SIP modules) - as shown on the KLM-228 schemo - used in the electric bass, tuba and trumpet presets 
Like a Sigma with 13600 filter thrown in for good measure   :D
Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: Zero the hero on December 29, 2005, 05:04:10 PM
Quote from: loscha on December 28, 2005, 10:43:16 PM
Quote from: Zero the hero on December 28, 2005, 07:24:21 AM
Still part 11 and 12 pending!

I've hunted around with the seach for about 5 minutes, and cannot find the first part!
I've found lots of other hot stuff, though, so, I'm not disappointed at that investment of my time!

Can someone please point me in the right direction?

I did only one post and I changed the title of the topic! No need of searching the forum!!!

Thanks to everyone who appreciated this gift!

I still have part 13 to post!
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) LAST PART
Post by: Zero the hero on December 30, 2005, 01:32:49 PM
That's the last part of Xmas my gift. It was taken from an Italian magazine and I think that its still possible to order the ready to solder PCB.
Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) PART 6 7 8 9 10
Post by: analogmike on December 30, 2005, 01:38:25 PM
Quote from: Zero the hero on December 29, 2005, 05:04:10 PM

Thanks to everyone who appreciated this gift!


Thanks for thanking us for thanking you for posting them!!!

Title: Re: [SCH] Xmas gifts! (schems inside) LAST PART
Post by: markusw on December 30, 2005, 02:26:22 PM
Thanks a lot for these cool xmas gifts!

Markus
:)