Achtung all DSP programmers!
Please drop me an email if you have any experience with writing DSP algorithms... Especially if you know the Motorola 5600 series. I might have something you'd be interested in... Also, please don't be afraid to sign an NDA (non disclosure agreement).
If you no nothing about DSP or micro controller code... you don't know what assembly languages is or C++... please do not respond to this... sorry.
-Mr. Huge
:icon_eek:
Peter: RUN!
:icon_wink:
I can't speak assembly (can't even find it on the map!?!), but I did get a lot of C+'s in high school!
You want me?
I'll bring donuts!
Quote from: Dan N on January 26, 2006, 12:02:54 AM
I'll bring donuts!
Hmmm, donuts you say.... I'm Intrigued!
.... I'm looking for people with a DSP background, who also have Motorola DSK and compilers...
-Mr. Huge
http://line6.com/tonecore/modules.html
(http://line6.com/tonecore/modules.html)
Link doesn't work....yet
the tension is unbearable, Jeorge. 8^)
Quote from: zachary vex on January 26, 2006, 02:49:44 PM
the tension is unbearable, Jeorge. 8^)
I do my best....
Quote from: Mark Hammer on January 26, 2006, 02:44:23 PM
Link doesn't work....yet
Yeah... I saw... Oh well ... Line 6 you know....
link worx - moves - ooops, but doesn`t intrigue me (sorry for ranting :icon_redface:...)
Quote from: zachary vex on January 26, 2006, 02:49:44 PM
the tension is unbearable, Jeorge. 8^)
Come on Zachary, you know you wanna do a little code writing! Seriously, you want to do some digital?
-Mr. Huge
You should try the forums at http://www.kvraudio.com (http://www.kvraudio.com). There are lots of commerical developers there. It's focused mainly on native PC/Mac plugins (VST, AU, RTAS, etc.), but there is bound to be some cross-over to hardware DSP programming (e.g. Motorola).
I have a forum account over there though I hardly ever use it anymore. If you don't want to be bothered creating an account for yourself, I'd gladly post for you.
-- T. G. --
I feel like I'm watching some sort of throwdown in the high school courtyard....
I, for one, would love to see what Zach could do in a stereo context, especially given the flexibility of how the digital domain can mimic having many, many controls (remember that the same pot can be assigned to a different parameter if a different mode is selected). The thought of someone with Zach's creativity and adventurous spirit having such a big palette to paint on....well, my picking hand is shaking like undoing a bra snap for the first time. :icon_mrgreen: (Um, that would be somebody else's, not one I'm wearing! :icon_lol: )
On the other hand, "Z-Vex" is a kind of brand, in the sense of an approach to design, and I wonder if it could be jeopardized as a brand by going in a direction so different as this. I can't see the "analog halo" of his pedals glowing quite so brightly if a person can plunk down $60 and buy a digital module. Price-point differences can lead people to see things in interesting ways, sometimes not for the better. Whatever residue remains from the whole Filter Modeller escapade, and regardless of whether it has or hasn't been patched over, I think Zach would be right to be cautious and reflective of such a move, Jeorge.
Fact of the matter is that all those creative minds out there who have embarked on putting out their own lines of pedals, and hung in there precisely because of the sense of pride and satisfaction that comes from having your own ideas out under your own name, represent a great talent pool, but...... It's a bit like dumping your classicly beautiful wife (and highschool sweetheart) for a lipsticked silicon blonde who shows up in a Jag. Exciting, yeah, but it doesn't feel as authentic as you need it to feel.
Of course, while we're being so naked and public here, this forum represents an exquisite portal for fresh creative ideas for your team. I know some of them are seriously taking up the challenge or at least considering it. I also know that those individuals themselves are open, willing to listen, and possessed of the same adventurous spirit as Zach (but with less to potentially lose). Having Zach as "guest designer" is obviously a feather in the Line 6 cap, and maybe even a way of getting free advertising for Z-Vex, but it doesn't have to be there to benefit from the collective ingenuity of this place.
I know if *I* could program DSPs, I'd be interested....and if I was unmarried, 30 years younger and looked good in a Speedo, I'd probably stroll down the beach in Rio and try my hand at being a Casanova too..... :icon_wink:
I have no doubts that Zach could make some very cool DSP based effects. I'm not joking either about him coding up... Zach, I'd be more than happy to let you in, just say the word.
-Mr. Huge
I read an offer like this and I get a weird collection of conflicted feelings and view points. Analog vs. digital, employee vs. employer, independent vs. corporate, hardware vs. software, pushing boundaries vs. playing safe, bouteek vs. mass production, DIY vs. team, etc.
I probably could do the job, well I haven't used Motorola DSP but I could adapt if I had too, and have fun doing the job but I opt not too. For many reason but probably the biggest is that I'm still young. I have that rebellious "wanna cut my own path" thing going on that I have to get out of my system that is if I ever can. I want to do my own thing and see what I'm made of.
Speaking of which back to programming...damn timer interrupts. sigh.
Andrew
Well, what I am trying to do is open up a DSP hardware platform for people to build on... I'm not necessarily looking for designer for Line 6... but open up the world of DSP to creative minds. The EH POG uses a Motorola 5600 series DSP (same one as the ToneCore)... hell it uses the same CODEC as the ToneCore... I'd love to see industrious entrepreneurs develop their own DSP Algorithm and sell it on their own using the ToneCore as the hardware base. Much like what Keeley and Analog Mike are doing with analog Boss pedals.
-Mr. Huge
That sounds really interesting. Really cool idea.
Too bad I have no experience with DSP (though I have a degree in programming including 8086 assembler, so I'm pretty sure I could learn) and I live a little far away (Argentina).
Good luck
Miguel
Is there anymore information you can release or details we could inquire about publicly or would you need a NDA to discuss further ?
Andrew
Quote from: The Tone God on January 27, 2006, 06:38:17 PM
Is there anymore information you can release or details we could inquire about publicly or would you need a NDA to discuss further ?
Andrew
As you know, the ToneCore stomp boxes are designed as a modular system ( http://line6.com/tonecore/modules.html (http://line6.com/tonecore/modules.html) ), with the intention of potentially having third parties also develop and/or sell effects. It is based on the Motorola 56364 platform (which lives in the base, or "dock", along with the power supply, CODEC, and analog circuitry), and the code is flash programmable into the module.
The potential exists to sell new pedals with 3rd party effects, sell new modules by themselves, as well as to license and sell blank modules to 3rd parties for them to program and sell as they see fit. I'm sure there are many other options that are not presented here and can be discussed.
That's the good news. The bad news is that we have a very simple SDK (software development kit) or development system, and have not had the time & resources to develop DSP and micro controller sample code. Unfortunately, we do not allow non-Line 6 employees to view the source code.
Furthermore, we do not provide the Motorola programmer & SDK or a compiler. There are some free downloadable programs that I can give links to.
However, we do have a preliminary document that details the platform and its architecture.
I've said pretty much all I can say... the next stage is an NDA and getting the documentation...
We have talked to several people about the potential of being a "guinea pig" for this system, and if you are interested in this as well, we could talk about how we might proceed.
Also, you really need to know how to write C++ and assembly language code and have some background with DSP. Once you get the docs and SDK you're on your own... no hand holding....
-Mr. Huge
"I don't know where I came from, I don't know where I'm going, and I don't know why I do the things I do."
-Evel Knievel
analog rules..
(http://hometown.aol.com/sunflowersnstone/images/rainbow%20smiley.gif)(http://hometown.aol.com/sunflowersnstone/images/rainbow%20smiley.gif)(http://hometown.aol.com/sunflowersnstone/images/rainbow%20smiley.gif)(http://hometown.aol.com/sunflowersnstone/images/rainbow%20smiley.gif)(http://hometown.aol.com/sunflowersnstone/images/rainbow%20smiley.gif)
:icon_biggrin:
I have my VST SDK somewhere in a cd... I guess the day digital can use at least 128Khz & 128 bits it will compete with analog devices. Human ears can "hear" those freqs that are up the 22khz limit. That is, when you are constructing a square wave suming sine waves, ie Fourier, those freqs up 22khz are needed to shape the final wave. That's why you can hear artifacts at high freqs in your cds. 44khz & 16bits is not enough. Also some medical researchers are questioning the 22khz limit.
Despite this, which will be solved quickly with newer and faster processors & free lance programmers, I will welcome any effort in the digital domain that help me to get rid of all the cables & pedals covering all the floor of my practice room... and those expensive retubing of my laney too.
Being a G5 addicted, I imagine the day I can plug my guitar into a powerbook, and with the aid of DSP, get the tone and feel of a good all tube amp.
Good luck.
mac
I think the quote in my sig (below) pretty much sums up all my thoughts on the subject.
... and, it came from someone on this forum. :icon_cool:
~ Charlie
That's it...? The chance to dig into digital scare everyone? I hope not...
-Mr. Huge
check your email brother.
- tom
Sean, Mr. Coffee, Transmogrifox, don`t seem to have discovered this thread yet...
(but maybe "B*hring*er has spotted it, and is looking for some weak spot to infiltrate/copicat "honour" it...)
Quote from: A.S.P. on January 30, 2006, 05:19:37 PM
Sean, Mr. Coffee, Transmogrifox, don`t seem to have discovered this thread yet...
Discovered topic pre-thread. Don't have any good animated gifs for pro digital folks...
Quote from: A.S.P. on January 30, 2006, 05:19:37 PM
(but maybe "B*hring*er has spotted it, and is looking for some weak spot to infiltrate/copicat "honour" it...)
Line6 code copyrighted. 3rd party code will be copyrighted. Would not be surprised if Line6 gets design patent on Tone Core series. Plus, what 3rd party in their right mind would enter a business relationship with Behringer?
Sean Costello
Quote from: Mr.Huge on January 30, 2006, 04:59:45 PM
That's it...? The chance to dig into digital scare everyone? I hope not...
-Mr. Huge
Scared? No. Woefully unqualified? Yes. My C++ skills are proto-embryonic and my DSP knowledge (from a development perspective) is nonexistent.
Regretfully, I'll have to pass... :icon_cry:
I think at least part of this dearth of replies is a bit like Uma Thurman complaining on a talk show that she can't seem to attract guys or get a date. It's not that people haven't *toyed* with the idea, it's that they are a little intimidated by what they think are the standards they need to meet. Like it or not, Line 6 stuff has a good reputation. A lot of folks dream of being able to work in that milieu and turn out anything that good, but when push comes to shove the reflexive response is to think "Me? I could never."
Quote from: Mark Hammer on January 31, 2006, 02:54:56 PM
I think at least part of this dearth of replies is a bit like Uma Thurman complaining on a talk show that she can't seem to attract guys or get a date. It's not that people haven't *toyed* with the idea, it's that they are a little intimidated by what they think are the standards they need to meet. Like it or not, Line 6 stuff has a good reputation. A lot of folks dream of being able to work in that milieu and turn out anything that good, but when push comes to shove the reflexive response is to think "Me? I could never."
Or, it could be that the work you need to do to develop such a pedal doesn't get done by posting to this board...
Sean
I have some decent asm knowledge, but no dsp. I'm a fast learner, though :-D.
Once upon a long, long time ago, I did some assembly code for the TMS320 DSP chip. I also did some DSP coding in C and pascal, but not for audio and not real time. I have no idea on how hard would it be to get the Motorola kit here inBrazil.
Jeorge, what's up with this?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Way-Huge-Pedals-Coming-Dont-pay-absurd-eBay-price_W0QQitemZ7389011401QQcategoryZ22669QQcmdZViewItemQQisPrinterFriendlyZ1QQpvZ1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Way-Huge-Pedals-Coming-Dont-pay-absurd-eBay-price_W0QQitemZ7389011401QQcategoryZ22669QQcmdZViewItemQQisPrinterFriendlyZ1QQpvZ1)
from that page:
If you're like me, you're sick of seeing $200 Way Huge pedals going for anywhere between $500 and $1000.
Apparently Jorge has quit Line 6 is will be making new Way Huge pedals soon. That's right...new Way Huge pedals will be available in the near future.
Unless you like being taken advantage of by greedy eBay resellers charging absurd prices, you may want to sit tight.
Use this info as you see fit. Click here
another job offer! (http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1156670&pagenumber=2)
this time
for Mr. Tripps...
(scroll down to 10th post)
:icon_lol:
Quote"...please do it at the keeley camp! ;-)
Position Open for one Huge Dude!
;-)
robert"
Seriously, here's a much likelier place to find music DSP guys & gals:
http://shoko.calarts.edu/~glmrboy/musicdsp/music-dsp.html
..feel free to sendme the usual 15% annual wage finder's fee :icon_smile:
Not a problem...been coding microprocessors for years and fixing and modding guitar effects for many more. I'm always up for a challenge...if the price is right!
CJ Landry
CJLectronics
anyone heard the rumors that Jeorge is partnered with Dunlop to re-manufacture the way huge line?
any substantiation?
Quote from: zachary vex on February 09, 2006, 08:11:14 PM
anyone heard the rumors that Jeorge is partnered with Dunlop to re-manufacture the way huge line?
any substantiation?
Oh, you're just trying to be provocative!
...and succeeding!
RDV
It would certainly fit with the Dunlop game plan, except that the Way Huge pedals were never mass marketed enough to have universal appeal today (I could be wrong... I guess Dunlop have a market research department). High ebay prices don't always signify a mass market.
Well if such a rumour were true (and Jeorge said nothing about it in his note the other day), it might explain the mysterious appearance of 2-4 Way Huge pedals being named on the show "Love Monkey " the other night. See the thread in OT.
Quote from: zachary vex on February 09, 2006, 08:11:14 PM
anyone heard the rumors that Jeorge is partnered with Dunlop to re-manufacture the way huge line?
any substantiation?
they heard rumours:
http://musictoyz.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/4066066091/m/4951085173 (http://musictoyz.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/4066066091/m/4951085173)
here is an answer:
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15064352 (http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15064352)
well, Ton, i participated in that second thread, and i still can't tell if he's serious about quitting Line6 or not, and i have no idea what he's going to do as far as any of the rumors. everything is still speculation afaik, but if someone has more solid information, feel free to pipe up. 8^)
I received a note from Jeorge on the 7th (as did others on his list), stating "I wanted to take a moment to let you all know that I am leaving my position at Line 6. An opportunity has arisen that I cannot ignore or resist. My last day at Line 6 will be Feb. 10th." Clearly there is a shift in career plan, but I have no idea what it is. Certainly, it is not a rift or anything of that nature. He has been quite generous to me, so obviously I wish him every success. Given the rather exciting ride he has had at Line 6, my curiosity about what lured him away grows by the minute.
Quote from: zachary vex on February 10, 2006, 04:14:49 AM
well, Ton, i participated in that second thread... 8^)
:icon_redface: yes, I discovered the follow up pages after I posted (immediately after seeing Mr. Huges post...).
So my post was more or less an intermediate info for the other nosy/interested people (like me :icon_razz:).
I hope for those, that jumped on this thread`s original intention,
that everything works out well for them,
even after the news that Mark just posted. :icon_wink:
Hmmm....almost makes me want to re-think my posistion on this whole deal.
Andrew
OK, so where do the DSP programmers that are the subject of this thread stand? With Mr. Tripps gone, is the 3rd party program still active?
(I'd email Jeorge at Line 6, but I presume he is kinda busy today...)
Sean Costello
I can spot you Angelo's e-mail address if you need. The 3rd party thing might lose steam in his absence, since it is almost a general principle in organizations that if you think of something 30 nanoseconds before anyone else did, it becomes your responsibility, and no one will ever carry that ball for you. On the other hand, theyDO have that little investment in those modular chassis things, so I suspect that carries a little momentum, with Jeorge or not.
From the way huge website thats "under construction"
Quote
The Red Llama Overdrive, Saffron Squeeze Compressor, Green Rhino Overdrive II, Tone Leper Midboost, Swollen Pickle Jumbo Fuzz, Piercing Moose Octifuzz, Foot Pig Fuzz, Aqua-Puss Analog Delay, Purple Platypus Octidrive, Blue Hippo Analog Chorus, Camel Toe Triple Overdrive, Sasquatch, Super-Puss Analog Tape Simulator, Galatic Swankulator Analog Delay, Fat Sandwich Distortion, Swine Face Fuzz II, Screaming Beaver, Mr. Huge, Dr. Huge, Way Huge, Wayhuge, Way Huge Electronics, Mr. Huge cartoons and Way Huge Electronics logo are all trademarks of Saucy, Inc. Use of any of these names in part or whole without written permission from Saucy, Inc. is strictly prohibited. All other product names, trademarks, and artists' names are the property of their respective owners, which are in no way associated or affiliated with Way Huge Electronics or Saucy, inc. Product names, images, and artists' names and are used solely for the purpose of identifying certain types of tones that can be produced using Way Huge Electronics effects. Use of these products, images, trademarks, and artists' names does not imply any cooperation or endorsement.
I see a few new ones.
Quote from: Mark Hammer on February 10, 2006, 03:05:08 PM
The 3rd party thing might lose steam in his absence...
Unless he is planning on releasing Way Huge Tonecore modules but that is speculation on my part.
If I was in his shoes I would have little interesting in reissuing the old Way Huge line on my own like everyone and their dog seems to be speculating. After working on things at Line6 the playing around with modded BMP and TS would seem kind of lame. If he is going to work for Dunlop I doubt they would be interested in him designing stuff for them using another company's product for the base so I see weekness there.
If the Dunlop rumours are true I would sooner guess that he's licencing out the old Way Huge stuff to be reissued by Dunlop while working on newer DSP stuff on his own using the Tonecore base.
Just a few of my thoughts.
Andrew
I think that is more speculative than is warranted.
The call for 3rd party modules by Jeorge on behalf of Line 6 was for use by the specific platform used by the Tone Core docks. My hunch is that the switch to selling modules AS modules, and the call for 3rd party developers was for the purpose of being able to have a broader line of moules than anyone might want to use simultaneously. Otherwise there is no economic justification for selling the docks and modules separately. Once the stable is big enough that players would say "I wouldn't mind *owning* A, B, and C, if they were cheap enough, but I could never see myself using more than two of them at once", it becomes sensible to sell the modules separate from the dock.
I do not wish to ever underestimate Jeorge's chops, digital or analog, but my sense is that his role there was as project manager and "shepherd" for that product line; coordinating all the players involved, making sure the website got put up, running to trade shows, talking to the jobbers in China making the components, coordinating beta-testing, etc. If he implies that something sort of fell into his lap, I think it is a fairly safe bet that it does not involve starting up a "breakaway product line" that benefits from Line 6's digital knowledge base but still needs to be developed.
We should probably just let Jeorge pack up his desk, go out for drinks with the guys one more time (it IS Friday night in California later today, after all), and wait it out until we get some more authoritative news.
It's starting to feel like "People" magazine in here! :icon_lol:
Quote from: Mark Hammer on February 10, 2006, 04:21:52 PM
I think that is more speculative than is warranted.
...
We should probably just let Jeorge pack up his desk, go out for drinks with the guys one more time (it IS Friday night in California later today, after all), and wait it out until we get some more authoritative news.
Agreed. Anything said anywhere at this point is pure speculation until Jeorge says something. Lets let him work through his biz. I'm done with this until then.
Andrew
Hmmm, looks like I tuned in a little late while everyone is still waiting for MrHuge to return.
I'd like to add my name to the list of people interested in this. As an introduction, I am an EE with a specialization in Signal Processing (wireless research lately, but I've always kept my hands in the audio realm). In addition, I actually have some experience coding the Motorola DSP 56000 line of DSPs in assembler (programmed real time implementations of LMS adaptive filters and LMS IIR adaptive filters on a Motorola DSP56000 a number of years ago). My recent DSP experience has been in C and with the TI C6416, but I'm know I still remember alot of the 56k programming techniques (I'm having flashbacks of it's Harvard architecture with one line MAC/fetch operations - ah, now that was some efficient coding, 2 lines of assembler to implement an FIR filter (after setting the cyclic pointer registers of course) :) )
Sorry if that sounds like a resume excerpt. Ah well, I might as well finish my introduction since I'm relatively new here. I also teach as an adjunct instructor at a college in NYC. In the past I've taught classes on MATLAB programming (with an eye towards circuits and DSP applications), a programmable logic and PIC microcontroller lab (I also have lots of PIC programming experience). Most recently I've been teaching a course on signal processing techniques as it relates Music to music (class name Digital Music) and a Adaptive Filters course. If anyone is interested, I have a couple of lectures up on line (http://www.cooper.edu/~hoerni/teach/eemusic/effects_v6.htm (http://www.cooper.edu/~hoerni/teach/eemusic/effects_v6.htm) and http://www.cooper.edu/~hoerni/teach/lectures/digital/Hoerning_digital_draft_v2.htm (http://www.cooper.edu/~hoerni/teach/lectures/digital/Hoerning_digital_draft_v2.htm) - probably common knowledge stuff around here)
Based on my read of the above posts, it almost sounds like Line 6 was looking to create some developers kits to get people started. I'd be very much interested in getting my hands on something like that. ; :icon_biggrin:
I guess I'll pull up a chair and continue waiting with everyone else.
Aloha all,
I wanted to take a moment to let you all know that I am leaving my position at Line 6. An opportunity has arisen that I cannot ignore or resist. My last day at Line 6 is today, Friday Feb. 10th.
At this time there isn't a project lead that will be overseeing the ToneCore 3rd Party development project. Please understand that until someone else is assigned as project lead, there may be limited ability to assist you or answer your questions.
To be clear... The ToneCore 3rd party development is in no way a designer hunt by Line 6 for new employees. We are doing this to encourage DSP development by individuals and small companies. We are hoping it will start a new stomp box DSP community. The ToneCore is an excellent platform to develop on and no one has ever offered to open up their DSP platform before. I hope that you will all move foreword with your own ToneCore algorithms. I'll be anxiously awaiting 3rd party ToneCore modules to surface.
Sincerely,
-Jeorge Tripps
I just got my first VST plugin working last night... it is a DSP version of the TS808 emulating all of its circuit characteristics... it doesn't look like a pedal yet and it's not pretty but it does distort and has that characteristic mid-range crunch. DSP could be interesting this year... :icon_mrgreen:
regards, Jack
Quote from: amz-fx on February 10, 2006, 11:03:53 PM
I just got my first VST plugin working last night... it is a DSP version of the TS808 emulating all of its circuit characteristics... it doesn't look like a pedal yet and it's not pretty but it does distort and has that characteristic mid-range crunch. DSP could be interesting this year...
It was fairly easy to mod this code into an emulation of the Proco Rat. It came out really well. Now I have to learn how to skin the plugins.
-Jack
Quote from: amz-fx on February 12, 2006, 10:22:44 AM
Quote from: amz-fx on February 10, 2006, 11:03:53 PM
I just got my first VST plugin working last night... it is a DSP version of the TS808 emulating all of its circuit characteristics... it doesn't look like a pedal yet and it's not pretty but it does distort and has that characteristic mid-range crunch. DSP could be interesting this year...
damn jack!
that's too cool!!!!!!!!!!!
- tom
It was fairly easy to mod this code into an emulation of the Proco Rat. It came out really well. Now I have to learn how to skin the plugins.
-Jack
rad!!!!!!!
- tom
Quote from: Mr.Huge on February 10, 2006, 08:34:24 PM
Aloha all,
I wanted to take a moment to let you all know that I am leaving my position at Line 6. An opportunity has arisen that I cannot ignore or resist. My last day at Line 6 is today, Friday Feb. 10th.
At this time there isn't a project lead that will be overseeing the ToneCore 3rd Party development project. Please understand that until someone else is assigned as project lead, there may be limited ability to assist you or answer your questions.
To be clear... The ToneCore 3rd party development is in no way a designer hunt by Line 6 for new employees. We are doing this to encourage DSP development by individuals and small companies. We are hoping it will start a new stomp box DSP community. The ToneCore is an excellent platform to develop on and no one has ever offered to open up their DSP platform before. I hope that you will all move foreword with your own ToneCore algorithms. I'll be anxiously awaiting 3rd party ToneCore modules to surface.
Sincerely,
-Jeorge Tripps
;D ok so we got our job... what about you 'n dunlop?
Quote from: amz-fx on February 10, 2006, 11:03:53 PM
I just got my first VST plugin working last night... it is a DSP version of the TS808 emulating all of its circuit characteristics... it doesn't look like a pedal yet and it's not pretty but it does distort and has that characteristic mid-range crunch. DSP could be interesting this year...
Okay, here's a screenshot of the VST plugin in use:
(http://70.159.131.67/media/misc/TS808.jpg)
If you want to hear it in operation, here is a sample mp3 file:
http://70.159.131.67/media/misc/TS808c.mp3
768kIt starts off with my Strat with the dead strings going direct into the computer... pretty dull and lifeless... keep the sound turned down to a moderate level. You will see why when you get to the part where I kick on the TS plugin! The TS-VST definitely livens up the sound.
It still needs some work as it is just a bit harsh but it has the TS-type midrange boost. Also, the skin is basic and will get some work later.
regards, Jack
Jack,
That sounds awesome! How do I get a copy? The only thing I could say to make it a little better is to maybe roll off a little of the top-end fizz up around 7-8k or so (which is what you're thinking is harsh I assume). Then again, part of that might be the crappy speakers in my Powerbook. :) I think it sounds great and honestly looks really good as well. A lot of the freebie DIY VST plugs that I've seen don't even bother with the skin...
Quote from: hairyandy on February 19, 2006, 08:23:35 PM
That sounds awesome! How do I get a copy?
At some point, I may offer them for download. A chorus and flanger are in the works too...
regards, Jack
Hi Jack,
This sounds promising but would you say that these plug-ins are more for recording onto a hard drive than live applications?
Just wondering, sorry for my ignorance here.
Regards,
George
www.PedalworX.com
George, you may not have noticed it, but it`s a quartercentury phenomenon:
1. they had 5 tubes for a stadium audience of 10.000;
2. they had 2 diodes and 3 opamps to imitate those tubes for a 500 club; (and had to amplify that for them)
3. they A/D with a couple of hundred semiconductors, process with a few million ss-devices, D/A with a couple, to listen to the sound alone by headphone.
here`s looking to the 2nd quarter of the 3rd millenium :icon_eek:
Quote from: TELEFUNKON on February 20, 2006, 01:39:41 PM1. they had 5 tubes for a stadium audience of 10.000;
Whatever did happen to the Rutles??
Did you do know that there are three free vst flangers for every man, women, and child?
But 0 Blue box VSTs :icon_evil:
Quote from: Jack on February 20, 2006, 05:14:12 PM
Did you do know that there are three free vst flangers for every man, women, and child?
But 0 Blue box VSTs :icon_evil:
But very few analog sounding ones with through-zero capabilities...
Blue box VST can be done... I also have a bit-crusher distortion in the works.
regards, Jack
this just came in (http://www.fcc.gov/eb/News_Releases/DOC-263862A1.html) (maybe a warning for the noobz??)
Serves the bastards right for cloning all those Boss and other designs, and all their other underhanded practices.
But this isn't really a warning for the noobs, I doubt any of them are planning on mass-producing this stuff :)
OK, then for those lurking in the start-hole (http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2006/FCC-06-13A1.html), the complete story.
Things are getting tuffer! (a.o.: RoHS).
I don't know why this thread is being hijacked with this. Not to say its not intersting or shouldn't be posted but it is somewhat OT and has nothing to do with the OP/topic at hand.
Quote from: DavidS on February 22, 2006, 06:05:36 AM
Serves the bastards right for cloning all those Boss and other designs, and all their other underhanded practices.
This has nothing to do with cloning or Boss or their biz ethics. RTFA.
QuoteThe rules require that these devices be tested and verified compliant with FCC technical standards prior to marketing them in the United States.
It has to do with them not getting proper safety approval from the FCC to sell their devices. It looks like they either didn't want to payout to the FCC to increase their profits or are knownly using substandard componets/techniques that they know will fail testing.
The only lesson that can be gainned for "noobs" is that before you sell a product you have to make sure it meets safety requirements be it FCC, UL, CSA, etc.
Andrew
QuoteThe only lesson that can be gainned for "noobs" is that before you sell a product you have to make sure it meets safety requirements be it FCC, UL, CSA, etc.
that`s exactly the point!
and the title of this thread fits exactly to this sub-topic (FCC/EMI)
reading between the lines in this and recent similar threads
(now gathered in this new sub-forum)
clearly shows that there are new potential startup-entrepreneurs for this genre,
that have a close look here.
let them be educated in time!
Thank you for posting that Ton! 8)
These are "computing devices" and must comply with FCC Part 15 specs in the US.
I'm sure it's much easier to get away with making fuzz faces as a boutique manufacturer. Building computers on a commercial scale, even a very small one, requires compliance, just the same as UL / CSA / CE is needed for devices that run from mains power.
Quote from: A.S.P. on February 22, 2006, 07:31:58 AM
OK, then for those lurking in the start-hole (http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2006/FCC-06-13A1.html), the complete story.
Things are getting tuffer! (a.o.: RoHS).
not to forget WEEE & EuP...
anniversary bump...