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Title: Difference between 2n5457 and 2n5458
Post by: jimbob on October 31, 2008, 10:07:07 PM
Looking at the data sheet/s they look to be the same yet when I bought them earlier the 2n5458 was more than double the price. Does anyone know of any differences between the two as far as the pedals/effects we make around here?
Title: Re: Difference between 2n5457 and 2n5458
Post by: George Giblet on October 31, 2008, 11:29:00 PM
They aren't really the same the data sheet does show differences in Vgs(off) and Idss.

The 2n5457 appear to have a little more gain.

The prices of JFET do vary like that.  IMHO it doesn't follow from a manufacturing/spec point of view but one of popularity at a particular distributor.

Title: Re: Difference between 2n5457 and 2n5458
Post by: Michael Weidenauer on November 02, 2008, 09:12:25 AM
A few month ago built the JFet test circuit (I think it's by R.G.), sorted all my JFets in gain groups and color coded them (Tropical Fish Fets - the ultimate Mojo-Boost :icon_wink:).

Most Fets were 2N5457 and 2N5458s and though there was the tendency that the 2N5458s have a higher pinch off voltage and higher Ids-on, but both types were in the same range (Vp from 1.1V to 2.4V).
I couldn't find any 2N5458 with values as high as in the Fairchild data-sheets (most of the Fets were Fairchilds).

The other thing I found out was that all Fets had about the same relation between Vp and Ids-on (i.e a J201 with Vp=1.1V and a 2N5457(or 2N5458 or BF245) with Vp=1.1V also had about the same Ids-on).
There seems to be no big difference between a 2N5458 and a BF245A if have the same Vp (also different brands didn't make much difference).

Build the JFet-Test circuit and choose what you need (in most distortions lower Vp values give more distortion).
Title: Re: Difference between 2n5457 and 2n5458
Post by: jimbob on November 03, 2008, 01:26:52 AM
Great info!!
Title: Re: Difference between 2n5457 and 2n5458
Post by: JDoyle on November 03, 2008, 07:00:50 PM
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=71977.0

Also - If I'm remembering right, J201, 2N5457, and 2N5458 are all from the same process (see above post) - hopefully I will remember to check tonight...