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Title: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: Nitefly182 on November 16, 2008, 11:06:29 PM
Im building a few germanium fuzzes and Id rather not socket the transistors to keep the builds cleaner and ensure that nothing vibrates loose over time. I know I need to get in and out quick when soldering germanium transistors but is there anything else I should consider or look out for? Does everyone socket theirs? I've noticed a number of builders that use germaniums solder them but they probably have a lot more stock to select from and test before they build pedals.
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: Boogdish on November 16, 2008, 11:08:49 PM
you could try to use an alligator clip or something as a heat sink on the device for further protection.  If you're iron is adjustable heat, adjust the heat down real low.  Other than that I don't know.
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: petemoore on November 16, 2008, 11:20:39 PM
but is there anything else I should consider or look out for? 
  Starting with prepared, clean surfaces involved with the solder joint makes good 'flow' happen more easily.
  One lead at a time helps keep the heat from ramping up as far in the transistor body, generally short heating then a cooling spell.
  Does everyone socket theirs?
  Mike doesn't, I often do.
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: kurtlives on November 16, 2008, 11:47:35 PM
I think most people make them out to be more sensitive then they really are.

On my first build (crappy at soldering then, right) I unsoldered and resoldered my OC44 at least 5 times. Worked fine...

I always solder my transistors, BJTs, FETs, mojo transistors. Like you said, get in there get the job done then get the hell out.
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: caress on November 17, 2008, 12:30:48 AM
just get in and out as quick as you can... shouldn't take more than 1-3 seconds anyway.
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: yeeshkul on November 17, 2008, 02:17:20 AM
clean the legs, make sure the pad is not greasy or dirty, pre-heat the soldering iron, stick the iron-tip in so it touches both - the pad and the leg and apply solder from the side - you shall be able to do it in 1 second. a tiny bit of solder is enough - just there and back.
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: Zben3129 on November 17, 2008, 07:06:02 AM
use 60/40 stuff, never use lead free for soldering sensitive parts,
use solder with the flux core
use flux in addition to that
clean the pads
sink the leg with a clip lead

If you do that you should be fine. I have a 5 watt iron I keep just for soldering delicate parts. I have it not because I'm worried about frying parts, but rather so I don't even have to consider it when I am debugging  ;D

I also use a special Kester solder that I like just for that (can't find it anywhere anymore  :( I think its like 63 / 37 or something wierd like that)

Zach
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: frokost on November 17, 2008, 07:13:24 AM
Quote from: Boogdish on November 16, 2008, 11:08:49 PM
you could try to use an alligator clip or something as a heat sink on the device for further protection.  If you're iron is adjustable heat, adjust the heat down real low.  Other than that I don't know.

Not so sure about the low heat thing: http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=51215.0
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: caress on November 17, 2008, 07:25:06 AM
yeah, higher high is probably preferred.  it will take less time to solder the joint...
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: Sir H C on November 17, 2008, 09:08:26 AM
And solder them in last.  Get the resistors, caps and leads all done, then put in the transistors.  Can tin the holes if you want, but as said I usually just do a lead at a time with a cool down period.
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: frequencycentral on November 17, 2008, 03:10:06 PM
I soldered these Ge suckers with no problemo:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb292/frequencycentral/c0f34684.jpg)
Title: Re: Soldering Germanium transistors?
Post by: bumblebee on November 17, 2008, 06:34:22 PM
Quote from: Boogdish on November 16, 2008, 11:08:49 PM
you could try to use an alligator clip or something as a heat sink on the device for further protection
I used to do this until I had the confidence to just solder them straight in, I'v never ruined one yet.