I was thinking about purchasing a pedaltrain, because of the design of it. But then I got to thinking, why couldn't I just make one myself?
So I started to do some searching, and I found a nice tutorial over at Harmony Central forums about how to make one. I thought I'd share this with you guys,
maybe someone is thinking of doing the same thing as myself.
First of all, here is the link to the HC thread:
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2271963 (http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2271963)
I'd like to note that the board is actually based on a shelf called Gorm sold by IKEA, which, costs about $4. It's solid pine, and comes in different sizes ($4 is for the one that's slightly larger than a pedaltrain jr.). They even have corner shelves, so it'd be possible to do sectional boards, and angled pedalboards.
Here's a link to the IKEA gorm page:
http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/search/?query=gorm (http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/search/?query=gorm)
Hopefully you'll have an IKEA in your area...I can't wait to try this project out. I'm thinking, green with white velcro. :)
Quote from: liddokun on September 20, 2009, 12:59:40 PM
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First of all, here is the link to the HC thread:
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2271963 (http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2271963)
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Very juicy thread, thanks for posting! :icon_exclaim: T.
He did a nice job on that. :icon_cool:
No problem T, I was hoping someone would enjoy reading it, or even make use of it. I know there's many threads on here about making your own pedalboard, but I haven't seen anything in this fashion before.
I'll be checking out my IKEA very soon!
Here's my take on a pedaltrain-like board. I got hold on some scrap aluminium profiles and some pieces of wood.
(http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=23506&g2_serialNumber=2)
Since the picture was taken, I have lowered the alu-profiles, so they are in level with the wood, and oiled the wood. Next step is velcro.
But its a great idea with the Ikea shelf. And I especially like the color!
I have those shelfes in my garden shed, and I actually think I have an extra shelf (and some pink spray paint :icon_mrgreen:)
Regards
Carsten
I did it with pieces of 1 inch furring strip and 3 premade bookshelf boards at the local big-box store. They were four inches wide and about 3/8 inch thick. Perfect. No cutting required. At least for that configuration.
Now I get to do it all over again because I need a smaller pedalboard.
Quote from: David on September 21, 2009, 10:19:01 AM
Now I get to do it all over again because I need a smaller pedalboard.
Hah. My first board was not a PT style--I built the whole thing like a flight case. It's awesome, but it's huge. Now that I'm bandless, I'm finding that I definitely need something smaller for jams and the odd freelance gig I get. It's no fun to load a 3' monstrosity into my sedan. In a band van, it's no biggie.
I might just have to go this route--my $20 GGG power supply would sit happily underneath a low-profile board.
Does anyone have a good source for that 2" Velcro? I found it at Staples--15' of it for about $30. Any cheaper sources?
This is good info. I was planning on using 1/2" birch plywood to build a good size board, so that I have room for expansion, but this is so easy, I might have to just build 2 of them ;)
Quote from: jacobyjd on September 21, 2009, 10:24:24 AM
Quote from: David on September 21, 2009, 10:19:01 AM
Now I get to do it all over again because I need a smaller pedalboard.
Hah. My first board was not a PT style--I built the whole thing like a flight case. It's awesome, but it's huge. Now that I'm bandless, I'm finding that I definitely need something smaller for jams and the odd freelance gig I get. It's no fun to load a 3' monstrosity into my sedan. In a band van, it's no biggie.
I might just have to go this route--my $20 GGG power supply would sit happily underneath a low-profile board.
Does anyone have a good source for that 2" Velcro? I found it at Staples--15' of it for about $30. Any cheaper sources?
Bandless? Did the bell toll for your former band? Bummer...
Quote from: David on September 21, 2009, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: jacobyjd on September 21, 2009, 10:24:24 AM
Quote from: David on September 21, 2009, 10:19:01 AM
Now I get to do it all over again because I need a smaller pedalboard.
Hah. My first board was not a PT style--I built the whole thing like a flight case. It's awesome, but it's huge. Now that I'm bandless, I'm finding that I definitely need something smaller for jams and the odd freelance gig I get. It's no fun to load a 3' monstrosity into my sedan. In a band van, it's no biggie.
I might just have to go this route--my $20 GGG power supply would sit happily underneath a low-profile board.
Does anyone have a good source for that 2" Velcro? I found it at Staples--15' of it for about $30. Any cheaper sources?
Bandless? Did the bell toll for your former band? Bummer...
Yeah, we had a good little run. Eric (ercsguitar when he's on this forum) is still writing great songs--just not in Indiana anymore. His wife scored an excellent writing job in Colorado that paid for their moving expenses if she could start within the week. Talk about a fast studio teardown! But...as all musicians with day jobs know: you gotta follow the work.
The rest of us wish them the best, and we're still in touch...and not opposed to long-distance collaboration. But...we're all moving on to good things. I'm not really short on auditions for other local bands, so I'm hoping to find another good set of band brothers soon :)
Until then, I'm busy realizing how much I've slacked on the meat and potatoes skills required for writing good songs myself. 3 years of lead guitar will do that to a guy :)
Quote from: jacobyjd on September 21, 2009, 10:24:24 AM
Does anyone have a good source for that 2" Velcro? I found it at Staples--15' of it for about $30. Any cheaper sources?
Try Michael's crafts or JoAnn Fabrics if you have those chains in your area. A lot of times they'll have a bulk reel and you can have it cut to the length you need. Lots of neat stuff in those craft stores for storing small components, printing/painting on pedal cases, etc.
While you're at Ikea you might want to take care of your home rack-mounting needs, too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cjw333/29627416/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cjw333/29627416/)
Quote from: ibodog on September 21, 2009, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: jacobyjd on September 21, 2009, 10:24:24 AM
Does anyone have a good source for that 2" Velcro? I found it at Staples--15' of it for about $30. Any cheaper sources?
Try Michael's crafts or JoAnn Fabrics if you have those chains in your area. A lot of times they'll have a bulk reel and you can have it cut to the length you need. Lots of neat stuff in those craft stores for storing small components, printing/painting on pedal cases, etc.
cut-to-length FTW! I'll check it out, thanks!
Pure inspiration. His board looks so tidy and professional! I have a IKEA relatively close, so this goes on the shopping list for my next trip south!
Part of what's getting me so excited about this project is that I'm so tired of black pedal boards.
Can't wait til reading week so I can get started on a candy apple green board with white velcro!
Here's the gorm I built a couple of weeks ago. Not populated yet :)
I bought the largest size, and cut off the top plank. I used that to make the heel stoppers and also to brace the undersides of the other boards (this wood will split easily if you don't reinforce it somehow). After that I sanded a bit, did two passes of stain and two passes of lacquer. I measured out the approximate space needed to get 6 pedals in line and used velcro in those spots, rather than all the way across. Both rows of pedals will span across to the middle board. I want to see some wood once I hook it all up, not dirty velcro! The top board will have two power supplies and a tuner.
(http://www.madbeanpedals.com/builds/gorm1.jpg)
I also used some rubber pads to fill in the height gap between the different braces.
(http://www.madbeanpedals.com/builds/gorm2.jpg)
I wouldn't take this to a gig (not that I would have one anytime soon), but for the house it's way nicer than my Pedaltrain. Total cost was maybe $15 (velcro is the most expensive part).
On the contrary, I think with the correct reinforcements you could probably make a Gorm pedalboard that is gig worthy.
Although building a case might be a bit more difficult.
I too was inspired when I saw a pedaltrain to think "There's gotta be a cheaper way to do that". And there is. I used 1x1 aluminum tubing - 3 pieces going horizontally (the pedals go on top of this) and 2 pieces underneath going vertically. The tubing was something like a buck 50/foot at Canadian Tire; a little more at HomeDepot. I then mounted a metal box inside the frame for my electronic switching. I'm hoping to wrap up this project soon and I'll post some pictures.
Here is my own version of a Pedaltrain style board. Complete with a built in isolated power supply and complete signal routing center. This board is currently used for my modulation pedals and my tuner, since there is a buffered tuner ouput. I also covered the sides in tweed to match my Tweed Classic 30. I'm planning on building a second for my dirt pedals.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/twtstudio/IMGP0412.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/twtstudio/IMGP0415.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/twtstudio/IMGP0416.jpg)
bluesman that is sweet. Especially loving the tweed. Since im a carpenter i am going to check out my garage tonight for some suitable materials and get to it. the cheap pine that ikea use is probably not very sturdy. I think iwill go with mahogany if i cant get a nice light piece
That looks amazing! What did you do for the isolated power supply? What circuit did ya use? Basic 9v regulation circuits?
blues_mang, that pedalboard looks really great!
How did you attach those door/drawer handles on top of the wooden sides? Did you use long bolts all the way through or is there an easier way?
(Forgive me, I'm a rather bad carpenter...)
About the "signal routing center", could you please elaborate on that one: Ins, outs, footswitches, knobs, toggle switches, front side, back side, top side?
I want to make a patch box and this one looks to have some good ideas!
bigchas, thanks for the comments. I built mine out of just solid white pine. It holds up quite well. It's just about 20" wide and the boards don't even sag underneath the weight of my foot. I'm currently working on my second for my distortion pedals. Then I think I'm going to build a cheap removeable lid.
liddokun,
I used GGG's 4 isolated power supply board. I have 2 boards mounted in the right side enclosure. So I have 6 x 9V and 1 x 12V and 1 x 18V to power my Neovibe. I then daisy chained the last output to the second enclosure that is my signal routing center. The second enclosure has guitar in and amp out jacks plus a buffered tuner output and a switchable loop that sends my signal to my compressor and envelope filter. I have it switched because these are always in front of my pedals, but I don't always have these on the board, so I can turn that loop off completely. Then I have a TB loop with a pot and switch for a feedback loop for my modulation pedals. I have a second TB loop with a pot and footswitch that goes to my dirt pedal board. Then I have a stomp switch that flip flops the orders of the loop...meaning I can put the dirt before the modulation and vice versa. Finally I have a stomp switch that switches the modulation loop to be in front of the amp or in it's effects loop. As you can see, I made it as versatile as possible. The only downfall is putting on the back of the board, it's a little difficult to stomp while playing, but most of these options are changed between songs.
flo, for the handles, I counterbored the bottom of the board deep enough to fit the bolts. It was a rather difficult process to get right, especially with the angle of the board. See my comments above regarding the signal routing center.
-BB
Ah right, thanks!
Thanks for elaborating Brian!
Sounds like a very versatile board! Congrats!
Like I said I would. I made one with some stuff in my garage. this is basically 4 peices of 19 x 45 (3/4 x 1 3/4) and the sides were cut from 19mm thick board on the slant. and the rails were just screwed through the ends and filled in. I have since added velcro (hook & Loop) which was quite expensive at 6 GBP for 2.5m (8ft)
power supply next...
(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy9/bigchasbroon/16102009138.jpg)
Our 3-year old futon frame just gave up the ghost, so I sawed off a portion of it--it'll need some sanding and some feet to tilt on, but it's pretty much a one-stop-shop for a PT-style board for home use :)
Quote from: liddokun on September 21, 2009, 06:55:00 PM
On the contrary, I think with the correct reinforcements you could probably make a Gorm pedalboard that is gig worthy.
I disagree. I've had a gorm board for a year now and it's ready to be dumped, after only being used out of the house half a dozen times. PLUS, I extensively reinforced it to make it live longer.
The wood used in those gorm shelves is the worst pine you'll ever be exposed to. I went through three shelves just to build one that would withstand any wear and tear at all.
Mine has legs underneath to get it on an angle and allow the power supply to be mounted underneath:
(http://notinteractive.com/stuff/guitar/fx/pedalboard-oct-09.jpg)
Does anyone know if there's a proper ikea enclosure for the gorm pedalboard?
I want to build one to and need an enclosure to put my amp on top and be able to slide my gorm board in and out like a drawer.
Quote from: tuckster on October 25, 2009, 03:30:27 PM
Does anyone know if there's a proper ikea enclosure for the gorm pedalboard?
I want to build one to and need an enclosure to put my amp on top and be able to slide my gorm board in and out like a drawer.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65762 (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65762)
buy some slides like that?
I've got slides like that but I need A enclosure that just fits the board without using a saw. I'm to lazy for that right now :)
Yes I could buy a big plank and build my own but I hate wood work.
what are you looking to spend/what do you want it made out of?
Not much. I found something:
INREDA http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90105719
But there's no Board on Top and the Bottom is to thin if i turn it arround and put the amp on it.
Quote from: andrew_k on October 22, 2009, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: liddokun on September 21, 2009, 06:55:00 PM
On the contrary, I think with the correct reinforcements you could probably make a Gorm pedalboard that is gig worthy.
I disagree. I've had a gorm board for a year now and it's ready to be dumped, after only being used out of the house half a dozen times. PLUS, I extensively reinforced it to make it live longer.
The wood used in those gorm shelves is the worst pine you'll ever be exposed to. I went through three shelves just to build one that would withstand any wear and tear at all.
Mine has legs underneath to get it on an angle and allow the power supply to be mounted underneath:
(http://notinteractive.com/stuff/guitar/fx/pedalboard-oct-09.jpg)
Yes, I suppose they are $5 for a reason. I'll probably be building one in the same fashion as the GORM, but try and find my own, harder wood.