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Title: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: ubaid88 on November 29, 2009, 07:19:23 AM
I looking for diy Marshall like overdrive/crunch. I am considering Burning Crunch. Suggest other options please.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Johan on November 29, 2009, 08:30:20 AM
I suggest a (http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/Themes/diytheme/images/english/search.gif)

..should give you enough to play with for the next few months..

j
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: ubaid88 on November 29, 2009, 09:25:39 AM
Search dont show anything satisfactory.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Ice-9 on November 29, 2009, 10:52:25 AM
How about a Marshall guvnor clone, They are good and the circuit is open to east mods that you could try.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: WhenBoredomPeaks on November 29, 2009, 10:57:39 AM
I would try to make a Serch Bhaar, they are quite smart little devices.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Hupla on November 29, 2009, 11:44:37 AM
BSIAB2
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: azrael on November 29, 2009, 11:44:57 AM
Dirty Little Secret.
Thor.
Eighteen.
Thunderchief.
BSIAB2.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: ubaid88 on November 29, 2009, 01:43:31 PM
Thanks guys. I will go burning crunch. Because it sounds great, it easy and quick.
Here are da clips for anyone whos looking for it.
Video Demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhJp8Wt-ncQ

Clips
http://diynoise.googlepages.com/k1.mp3
http://diynoise.googlepages.com/k2.mp3
http://diynoise.googlepages.com/k3.mp3
http://diynoise.googlepages.com/sweet.mp3

Finally thanks to Daniel for great sounding distortion.

Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Ibanezfoo on December 01, 2009, 03:39:41 PM
Crunch Box!  I've built both the burning crunch and the crunch box (and the guv'nor) and to me, the crunch box does that loud cranked Marshall sound the best.  I was going for a Zakk Wylde type tone when I built them so that's what I'm basing it off of.  The burning crunch is nice but to my ears is just a tiny bit harsh/metallic.  Maybe its just mine, I dunno.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: dschwartz on December 02, 2009, 11:00:55 AM
i add 10n cap to ground before volume pot to the burning crunch to take some of that fizz away..
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Ibanezfoo on December 02, 2009, 11:56:12 AM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 02, 2009, 11:00:55 AM
i add 10n cap to ground before volume pot to the burning crunch to take some of that fizz away..

Was this on your original layout from awhile back?  The PCB with your cool demon horned face avatar in the corner?  Thats the one I used to build my burning crunch.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: dschwartz on December 02, 2009, 01:00:19 PM
yes, and no... i put the cap right on the volume pot (lug 1 & 3), so, the cap is there, but not in the layout..i put it after i built it, because i was getting, as you, too much fizz..the cap made a nice smoothing and got better low end..(at the cost of some output volume, but, there are plenty of it, anyway)
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Ibanezfoo on December 02, 2009, 03:13:06 PM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 02, 2009, 01:00:19 PM
yes, and no... i put the cap right on the volume pot (lug 1 & 3), so, the cap is there, but not in the layout..i put it after i built it, because i was getting, as you, too much fizz..the cap made a nice smoothing and got better low end..(at the cost of some output volume, but, there are plenty of it, anyway)

Ah!  I will try that then, thank you!  Is the cap there on the pedal in the youtube clip?
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: dschwartz on December 02, 2009, 03:21:48 PM
yes indeed!
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Renegadrian on December 02, 2009, 05:26:04 PM
Nice video, but it doesn't cover all the sounds we should expecting with different tone settings...
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Ibanezfoo on December 02, 2009, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 02, 2009, 03:21:48 PM
yes indeed!

You know your Texas Brownie seems to have that warm and crunchy Marshallish tone.  Care to share any details about it?
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: ubaid88 on December 03, 2009, 04:06:15 AM
I will post clips of my one. If i can complete that.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Ibanezfoo on December 03, 2009, 12:08:32 PM
Quote from: ubaid88 on December 03, 2009, 04:06:15 AM
I will post clips of my one. If i can complete that.

Which circuit are you building?
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: ubaid88 on December 03, 2009, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: Ibanezfoo on December 03, 2009, 12:08:32 PM
Quote from: ubaid88 on December 03, 2009, 04:06:15 AM
I will post clips of my one. If i can complete that.

Which circuit are you building?
Burning Crunch from my pcb layout. Pcb tranfer, etching and drilling are complete. Soldering component and assembling is left.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: dschwartz on December 03, 2009, 02:34:29 PM
Quote from: Ibanezfoo on December 02, 2009, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 02, 2009, 03:21:48 PM
yes indeed!

You know your Texas Brownie seems to have that warm and crunchy Marshallish tone.  Care to share any details about it?
well, to be honest, i don´t like sharing that specific desing openly. You can send me an email and i can share the schem with you, but i wouldn´t like it to be published or used for selling.
Basically, the idea is a JCM 800 emu (similar to BSIAB) with muamps with a simple TS type booster in the front.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: ubaid88 on December 03, 2009, 02:46:26 PM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 03, 2009, 02:34:29 PM
Quote from: Ibanezfoo on December 02, 2009, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 02, 2009, 03:21:48 PM
yes indeed!

You know your Texas Brownie seems to have that warm and crunchy Marshallish tone.  Care to share any details about it?
well, to be honest, i don´t like sharing that specific desing openly. You can send me an email and i can share the schem with you, but i wouldn´t like it to be published or used for selling.
Basically, the idea is a JCM 800 emu (similar to BSIAB) with muamps with a simple TS type booster in the front.
Like dui distortion ?
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: dschwartz on December 03, 2009, 03:49:18 PM
exactly, but the tone controls are different
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: ubaid88 on December 03, 2009, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 03, 2009, 03:49:18 PM
exactly, but the tone controls are different

can please u give a bit of idea on tone controls. Just normal passive Fender/Marshall/Vox, buffered or baxandall.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Ibanezfoo on December 03, 2009, 04:16:00 PM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 03, 2009, 02:34:29 PM
well, to be honest, i don´t like sharing that specific desing openly. You can send me an email and i can share the schem with you, but i wouldn´t like it to be published or used for selling.
Basically, the idea is a JCM 800 emu (similar to BSIAB) with muamps with a simple TS type booster in the front.

No problem!  I completely understand.   :)
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: dschwartz on December 04, 2009, 07:16:44 AM
Quote from: ubaid88 on December 03, 2009, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 03, 2009, 03:49:18 PM
exactly, but the tone controls are different

can please u give a bit of idea on tone controls. Just normal passive Fender/Marshall/Vox, buffered or baxandall.
well..is my own design.. but a two pot BMP tone control is close enough..
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: ubaid88 on December 04, 2009, 08:15:22 AM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 04, 2009, 07:16:44 AM
Quote from: ubaid88 on December 03, 2009, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 03, 2009, 03:49:18 PM
exactly, but the tone controls are different

can please u give a bit of idea on tone controls. Just normal passive Fender/Marshall/Vox, buffered or baxandall.
well..is my own design.. but a two pot BMP tone control is close enough..
Thanks Daniel.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: fpaul on December 04, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
Kind of hesitate to post this on a stompbox forum but after spending 2 years trying the get "the tone" from a pedal I finally gave up and built a Marshall 50watt clone.  First time I've been happy with my tone in about 25 years, when I played my friends 50w.  Was worried about the volume but with PPIMV using single 12" it really isn't that loud to get a great sound.  Rat works really good with it also for lower volumes.  Got board from Ceriatone, transformers from Triode and odds and ends from Apexjr and tubes and more, as I got the cash; wasn't cheap but really wasn't that expensive either. With info on the net I think it's easer than building a pedal just because of the size factor.  Just take simple precautions with the high voltage, basically drain filter caps (easy) before mods and only one hand in amp while checking voltages.  In my opinion it blows away all of the pedals I've tried, and I've tried quite a few.  Not telling you to do it, just sharing my experience with the search.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: ubaid88 on December 04, 2009, 06:22:31 PM
Quote from: fpaul on December 04, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
Kind of hesitate to post this on a stompbox forum but after spending 2 years trying the get "the tone" from a pedal I finally gave up and built a Marshall 50watt clone.  First time I've been happy with my tone in about 25 years, when I played my friends 50w.  Was worried about the volume but with PPIMV using single 12" it really isn't that loud to get a great sound.  Rat works really good with it also for lower volumes.  Got board from Ceriatone, transformers from Triode and odds and ends from Apexjr and tubes and more, as I got the cash; wasn't cheap but really wasn't that expensive either. With info on the net I think it's easer than building a pedal just because of the size factor.  Just take simple precautions with the high voltage, basically drain filter caps (easy) before mods and only one hand in amp while checking voltages.  In my opinion it blows away all of the pedals I've tried, and I've tried quite a few.  Not telling you to do it, just sharing my experience with the search.
That is why used Marshall **LIKE* crunch/overdrive not exactly Marshall sound. I know only tube can do that.
Title: Re: Marshall like overdrive/crunch...
Post by: Ibanezfoo on December 07, 2009, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: dschwartz on December 02, 2009, 01:00:19 PM
yes, and no... i put the cap right on the volume pot (lug 1 & 3), so, the cap is there, but not in the layout..i put it after i built it, because i was getting, as you, too much fizz..the cap made a nice smoothing and got better low end..(at the cost of some output volume, but, there are plenty of it, anyway)

I tried this out this weekend and the cap did make a noticeable difference.  Thanks!