As others have noted, the Mouser parts list for the Neovibe downloadable off the GGG website has a lot of obsolete parts numbers, particularly for the capacitors. For parts substitutions, what are the most important attributes? Obviously the capacitance and type (poly film vs. electrolytic, for instance) has to match, but how important is the voltage and tolerance? Is substituting a higher voltage rating OK (200v instead of 100 volt for example)? I am finding that a lot of the obsolete caps are 10% tolerance, while similar caps suggested by Mouser have a lower tolerance (5% or 3% for instance). The higher tolerance caps are slightly more expensive, but the rest of the specs seem to match.
Has anyone tried an updated parts list for the Neovibe through Mouser, Small bear, or other supplier?
Advice appreciated.
In general, you can use a capacitor with a higher voltage rating to replace one with a lower voltage rating but it may be mechanically larger than the original. The higher voltage rating will improve reliability.
You can use a tighter tolerance (e.g. 5% to replace a 10%) capacitor, but you can expect to pay more.
I tried updating that parts list several times. In the almost 20 years since I did the first Neovibe layout, Mouser has changed its suppliers several times. I had to spend my time doing other things than always checking stock, especially since people complained that I only did part numbers for Mouser, not their chosen parts supplier.
Amptramp has the dictum correct - get as close to the tolerance as you can, more voltage is always OK, and READ THE PHYSICAL SIZE AND LEAD SPACING INFORMATION CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU BUY. Otherwise you'll wind up with capacitors too big to fit on the PCB. It's not all that hard, just use a ruler or something, estimate the biggest size you can get in there, and read the sizes in the catalog.
Besides - after your first couple of effects, it's time you learned to think about what part fits without someone picking them out for you. It's a good skill to have.
Please let newcomers and beginners know as appropriate: I have spreadsheet parts lists for numerous popular DIY builds, and I will e-mail them on request. Some are better and more current than others; as R. G. notes, it is hard to keep these accurate given the constant changes in distributor stock and availability. Nonetheless, the one for the Neovibe is pretty good. As I get opportunity, I have been adding SKU numbers to the descriptions of the parts, and that has been done for the Neo.
SD
Smallbearelec,
Thanks for responding to my post, I have e-mailed you a request for an updated parts list. Do you mind if I post it on this forum? I understand the parts availability changes all the time, but it might help any current or recent Neovibe builders. The simple covenience of having an updated list would cause me to buy the parts from Smallbear instead of Mouser or some other supplier.
RG:
Thanks for responding. It's hard to imagine the patience required to respond to years of Neovibe builders asking for I advice. I really appreciate it. Can't wait to start this build!
Copy will be in your mailbox shortly. I don't mind if the list is shared, though it's a .xls and I don't know if that can be posted here.
Some of the small caps are no longer available in Panasonic, but I have been slowly making the transistion from the discontinued ECQ-B series to comparable parts from other sources.
SD
Thanks to Smallbear for providing the following updated parts list:
Neovibe
SBE SKU
50 Resistor 1/4 Watt 5% 1 x 68 Ohm
1 Trimpot Cermet 200 Ohm 1015 1 x 1.2K
1 Diode Bridge Rectifier 100 PIV 1A DB-02 2200 2 x 3.3K
1 Lamp, 12 v 25 to 40 ma. 2323 16 x 4.7K
2 Diode 1N914 2208 1 x 6.8K
14 Transistor 2N5088 2015 3 x 22K
1 Capacitor ECQ-B 50V 330 pf. 1100 8 x 47K
1 Capacitor ECQ-B 50V 470 pf. 1101 1 x 68K
1 Capacitor ECQ-B 50V .0047 mf. 1101 11 x 100K
1 Capacitor ECQ-B 50V .015 mf. 1101 3 x 220K
1 Capacitor Topmay TCM05 50V .1 mf. 1150 2 x 1.2 Meg
1 Capacitor ECQ-B 50V .22 mf. 1103 1 x 2.2 Meg
16 Capacitor Electrolytic Radial 50V 1mf 1404
2 Capacitor Electrolytic Radial 25V 10mf 1405H
2 Capacitor Electrolytic Radial 35V 1000mf 1406
1 Pot Alpha Reverse Audio Taper 2-Gang 16mm 100K 1011BA
1 Pot Alpha Audio Taper 16mm 100K 1005A
1 Pot Alpha Linear Taper 16mm 50K 1005A
1 IC 78L15 1803
4 Photocell NSL-7530 or NSL-7532 2506B, 2506C
1 Jack DC Power 2.1 mm Plastic 0611
2 Jack 1/4 in. Mono Switchcraft #11 0600
1 LED Red 5 mm Kingbright L53HD 2300
1 LED Grn 5 mm Kingbright L53GD 2300
1 Switch - SPDT Toggle Mountain Sw MS-550A 0218
1 Wall Transformer 18 VAC 2401J
Sorry, that got a little garbled. The last group of numbers on each line is the Small Bear SKU number. This is an excel document, don't know how to post it as such on this forum.
SBE SKU
50 Resistor 1/4 Watt 5%
1 x 68 Ohm
1 x 1.2K
2 x 3.3K
16 x 4.7K
1 x 6.8K
3 x 22K
8 x 47K
1 x 68K
11 x 100K
3 x 220K
2 x 1.2 Meg
1 x 2.2 Meg
1 Trimpot Cermet 200 Ohm 1015
1 Diode Bridge Rectifier 100 PIV 1A DB-02 2200
1 Lamp, 12 v 25 to 40 ma. 2323
2 Diode 1N914 2208
14 Transistor 2N5088 2015
1 Capacitor ECQ-B 50V 330 pf. 1100
1 Capacitor ECQ-B 50V 470 pf. 1101
1 Capacitor ECQ-B 50V .0047 mf. 1101
1 Capacitor ECQ-B 50V .015 mf. 1101
1 Capacitor Topmay TCM05 50V .1 mf. 1150
1 Capacitor ECQ-B 50V .22 mf. 1103
16 Capacitor Electrolytic Radial 50V 1mf 1404
2 Capacitor Electrolytic Radial 25V 10mf 1405H
2 Capacitor Electrolytic Radial 35V 1000mf 1406
1 Pot Alpha Reverse Audio Taper 2-Gang 16mm 100K 1011BA
1 Pot Alpha Audio Taper 16mm 100K 1005A
1 Pot Alpha Linear Taper 16mm 50K 1005A
1 IC 78L15 1803
4 Photocell NSL-7530 or NSL-7532 2506B, 2506C
1 Jack DC Power 2.1 mm Plastic 0611
2 Jack 1/4 in. Mono Switchcraft #11 0600
1 LED Red 5 mm Kingbright L53HD 2300
1 LED Grn 5 mm Kingbright L53GD 2300
1 Switch - SPDT Toggle Mountain Sw MS-550A 0218
1 Wall Transformer 18 VAC 2401J
Is this the elusive "dual reverse log taper control" that is described as hard to find in the instructions? No taper resistors or other mods required?
http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=1032
Quote from: Gilmourisgod on February 06, 2011, 09:30:31 PM
Is this the elusive "dual reverse log taper control" that is described as hard to find in the instructions?
http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=1032
Yep.
Thanks smallbear. I checked through the list at the Smallbear site, everything available except the (16) Electrolytic Radial 50v 1mf Capacitors, SKU #1404, out of stock. Any way to track when these will be back in stock? Is there a substitute I could use? Hate to get whacked on postage twice for these. Maybe I can get them at RS.