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Title: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: R.G. on January 01, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
Making estimations from the rate of growth of DIY stompboxes from the 90s to now, I think that by 2027, the number of people building and selling stompboxes will exceed the population of the planet.

So we're going to have to invent interstellar travel and trade with aliens just so we have someone to sell stompboxes to.

:)
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Gus on January 01, 2014, 01:09:22 PM


Are we past peak effects?
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Fender3D on January 01, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
Do aliens have feet?
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: bluebunny on January 01, 2014, 01:26:29 PM
Quote from: R.G. on January 01, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
Making estimations from the rate of growth of DIY stompboxes from the 90s to now, I think that by 2027, the number of people building and selling stompboxes will exceed the population of the planet.

Fairchild et al. will just have to start making JFETs again!  ;)

Quote
So we're going to have to invent interstellar travel and trade with aliens just so we have someone to sell stompboxes to.

I always thought the Visual Sound logo looked something like a sci-fi transporter beam:
(http://visualsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/footer-logo.png)        ...something you're working on, R.G?    ;D
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: duck_arse on January 02, 2014, 09:52:24 AM
so all the best Ge's are at roswell?
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on January 02, 2014, 10:03:36 AM
Quote from: R.G. on January 01, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
Making estimations from the rate of growth of DIY stompboxes from the 90s to now...

Is that based on the number of "true" pedal manufacturers?  :-\

I ask because I often see people posting pictures on here and other forums. A lot of times they have a "Company Logo" plastered all over the pedal in the picture but, more often than not.... the thread is titled "Help.... Cannot get _____ Working!!!"

Are you figuring these partially bloomed flowers into your figures?  ::)
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: B Tremblay on January 02, 2014, 12:49:46 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on January 02, 2014, 10:03:36 AM
Quote from: R.G. on January 01, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
Making estimations from the rate of growth of DIY stompboxes from the 90s to now...

Is that based on the number of "true" pedal manufacturers?  :-\

I ask because I often see people posting pictures on here and other forums. A lot of times they have a "Company Logo" plastered all over the pedal in the picture but, more often than not.... the thread is titled "Help.... Cannot get _____ Working!!!"

Are you figuring these partially bloomed flowers into your figures?  ::)

The correct term is dud buds.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Quackzed on January 02, 2014, 02:13:04 PM
i expect shipping costs to continue to rise, also parts prices(china) to continue to rise. fabbing boards etc...
pump it up! untill you can feel it
pump it up! when you don't really need it!!!

on the plus side, girls will be hotter and nerds will be cooler.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: mremic01 on January 02, 2014, 05:26:34 PM
I've only been building for maybe 3 years or so, but it seems like the big parts have gotten a lot cheaper, while the components seem to have gone up. When I first started, I couldn't find a blue 3PDT for any less than 8$. Enclosures were at least 10$. Now I can 3PDTs for about 3$, and enclosures for 6 or 8$, depending on the size and the seller. On the other hand, JFETs were a lot cheaper before they stopped making them, and even caps seem to be going up here and there. Every time I place an order from Tayda, it seems like one part or another has gone up by a few cents. I got my first 1N34As from Mouser, but they stopped carrying them a few weeks later. But a lot of places that cater to the pedal market sell them now.  Overall, it's gotten a lot cheaper though. I can build pretty decent pedals for 30-50$ worth of parts, whereas I used to figure each build at something like 60-80$. The downside is that selling builds seems a lot tougher. Pretty much any circuit you can think of has at least a dozen clones up on ebay now. I used to be able to recoup my losses by selling a build for about the cost of parts if I decided it wasn't for me later down the road. Not so much anymore.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Steve Newton on January 02, 2014, 07:01:57 PM
Somebody will finally figure out the magic behind the Tube Screamer and we will all be able to build one for ourselves.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Mark Hammer on January 02, 2014, 07:49:11 PM
Fingers crossed, Steve, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: MrStab on January 02, 2014, 08:38:24 PM
i predict that the components market will be dominated by "counterfeit" Chinese parts, and during the summer when there are loads of gigs, the secret timers inside them will activate, injecting subliminal messages into our music and initiating a Maoist takeover of the western world from within.

...or just more digital crap.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Mark Hammer on January 02, 2014, 10:17:57 PM
1) The Hammond trapezoidal box will simply not gain the traction in the DIY world some of us thought it would....but other kinds of boxes might.

2) The EHX Soul Food will crush the grey-market Klon-clone trade...finally.

3) We will see more hobbyist tools aimed at surface mount construction.

4) Some of the first digital DIY project kits from commercial producers....that don't use a PT2399.

5) Some interesting Arduino and Raspberry Pi kits with musical applications.

6) Guitar-parts distributors offering bodies pre-routed for installing the digital board of your choice (Variax, MIDI, USB convertor, GK3 13-pin, etc.), plus a penlight-based onboard power source.

7) Foot-friendly joysticks, and guitar joysticks.

8 ) Harmonic distortion analysis apps for your tablet/phone thingie.

9) No Chinese counterfeit parts but a huge spike in the belief that there are tons of them out there.

10) At least 20 it-worked-before-I-boxed-it-up posts here.

11) Creative projects for utilizing the Source Audio Hot Hand as a generalized control device.

12) Katy Perry dumps John Mayer, so he uses the spare time to build himself another BYOC pedal.

13) effectsdatabase has to buy a few more terrabytes of storage space.

14) Some established pedal-maker/s will begin cashing in on DIY by offering "semi-kits".  That is fully machined and legended boxes, wave-soldered SMD boards and the remaining chassis-mounted parts in a bag.  Walco and Amdek...watch out!

15) Somebody here finally does a layout for SIP dual op-amps.

16) Those teeny green-body not-quite-a-trimpot-not-quite-a-real-pot things catch on big time and become near standard for projects, along with those long-lug PCB-mount pots.

17) 1/8w resistors, and small ceramic caps catch on big time.

18) PnP finally come down below $2/sheet in small quantities.

19) You can't find or order anything useful whatsoever from any Radio Shack anywhere.

20) Your Mouser order will start arriving by drone...and taking your picture as you come outside to receive it.

21) Oh yeah, almost forgot.  I *will* finish my PAiA hyperflange this year.  :icon_wink:  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: rousejeremy on January 02, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
22. Someone builds an iPhone3 on vero.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: azrael on January 02, 2014, 10:36:41 PM
In all seriousness, hoping to see some more new stuff from RunOffGroove this year. :D
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Eddododo on January 02, 2014, 10:48:54 PM
I am enjoying every post of this

singular prediction: chicks will dig diy effects guys.
we will read the twitter and download the leaked love videos of boutique builders
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: smallbearelec on January 02, 2014, 11:54:32 PM
23. Small Bear will farm Hammer's list of predictions for things to stock...
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: MrStab on January 03, 2014, 12:23:14 AM
i think it'd be cool to see more hybrid interfaces with digital control of analogue signals - not just the whole preset thing, but along those lines. no practical benefits really, it'd just be cool.

Mark: #7 reminded me of those surround-sound panning sticks they had on a ProTools ProControl back when i was at college, and i've occasionally had fleeting ideas of how that could be used in stompbox designs. i bet something like that has already been done for stereo setups, but maybe not. you'd probably wanna make it look clearly different from a footswitch, though. maybe a flashing light like they have on radio towers to stop aircraft crashing into them.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: drolo on January 03, 2014, 05:39:48 AM
An EHX reissue of the burst box
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: deadastronaut on January 03, 2014, 06:11:38 AM
24: someone will make a fuzz that doesn't sound shit.

25: that same person will be killed by hoardes of vigilante purist fuzzists.

26: the return of fuzz pedals that sound shit again. :D
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Mark Hammer on January 03, 2014, 09:04:22 AM
Quote from: rousejeremy on January 02, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
22. Someone builds an iPhone3 on vero.

But posts here asking someone to check their layout for errors.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on January 03, 2014, 09:23:14 AM
Quote from: Mark Hammer on January 03, 2014, 09:04:22 AM
Quote from: rousejeremy on January 02, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
22. Someone builds an iPhone3 on vero.

But posts here asking someone to check their layout for errors.  :icon_wink:

Before adding their "company logo" and selling it on their website as "Vintage Mojo Cellular with NOS parts!"  ::)
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Gus on January 03, 2014, 01:52:17 PM
Cloners/"designers" builders might use the search engine here or on the web or even check the links at the top of the page
and stickys before asking question asked many times before
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on January 03, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
Quote from: Gus on January 03, 2014, 01:52:17 PM
Cloners/"designers" builders and sellers might use the search engine here or on the web or even check the links and RULES at the top of the page
and stickys before posting or asking question asked many times before

:FIXED:  ;D
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: digi2t on January 03, 2014, 02:55:08 PM
Quote from: rousejeremy on January 02, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
22. Someone builds an iPhone3 on vero.

I`m on it.  :icon_mrgreen:

Quote from: Mark Hammer on January 03, 2014, 09:04:22 AM
Quote from: rousejeremy on January 02, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
22. Someone builds an iPhone3 on vero.

But posts here asking someone to check their layout for errors.  :icon_wink:

Uhhhh.... yeah..... You`ve got me there. :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: garcho on January 03, 2014, 04:27:52 PM
Quote15) Somebody here finally does a layout for SIP dual op-amps.

on the way! close to done...

27. lots of hatin'
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Mac Walker on January 03, 2014, 07:36:21 PM
28)  Scientists finally establish a definitive link between early childhood vaccinations and the DIY pedal pandemic.

I mean, the following chart pretty much proves it.

(https://d1x4j6omi7lpzs.cloudfront.net/live/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Vaccines_history.png)


:icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: amptramp on January 03, 2014, 07:41:49 PM
Someone will come out with a memory controller chip with A/D and D/A that allows you to build a delay with separate RAM.  PT2399 sales tank.

Someone will do a standard 4-20 mA industrial control preamp that will allow your guitar to put out a high-current signal with power coming from the receive end.  The 100 metre long guitar cable will debut.

Pedal builders start a new group of cities known as Germanium Valley.  Their influence spreads.  Look for 74HCGXXX logic gates operating at 0.5 volts.

Drums with a conductive surface are used as microwave resonators in oscillators which are divided down in frequency to become synthesized (wait for it) drums.

Wax cylinder recordings make a comeback as a delay element.

A stash of stolen 6L6's are found in a hitherto unexplored Nazi bunker, upping the value of the Euro against the US dollar. War between the Allies and the Nazis breaks out again.

Stompswitches will be replaced by LED-phototransistor pairs where you simply put your foot in the way of the beam to toggle states.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: digi2t on January 03, 2014, 09:02:55 PM
QuoteWax cylinder recordings make a comeback as a delay element.

And along with a germanium Fuzz Face in front of it, in a really hot environment, Jack White will create some new sputter. Leaving thousands of guitarists to wonder, "How'd he do that?".
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: R.G. on January 03, 2014, 09:17:07 PM
Quote from: amptramp on January 03, 2014, 07:41:49 PM
Someone will come out with a memory controller chip with A/D and D/A that allows you to build a delay with separate RAM.  PT2399 sales tank.
...er, that was the PT2395, the PT2399's precursor.  Been there, got the scars.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: PRR on January 03, 2014, 11:53:42 PM
> new group of cities known as Germanium Valley.

Love this one.

> 74HCGXXX logic gates operating at 0.5 volts.

IIRC, Germanium logic ran on a mess of supplies like +5.6V, -13V, -18V, and test voltages. Why? if Ge has low threshold? Because you have to swamp-out Ge's variability.

> Someone will do a standard 4-20 mA industrial control preamp

Does 4-20mA even still exist? I got an elect-tech meter which does everything *except* read current 1mA-1A. I wondered how a tech would troubleshoot 4-20mA gear. Looking around, it seems to be bygone technology.
Title: Re: Sv: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Perrow on January 04, 2014, 04:51:35 AM
Quote from: garcho on January 03, 2014, 04:27:52 PM
on the way! close to done...

I have a 1590A-able Phase 90 done in DIYLC,  not tested in real life though :)
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: garcho on January 04, 2014, 10:25:20 AM
QuoteWax cylinder recordings make a comeback as a delay element.

Move over Echoplex  ;D

(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/252363_10150992861607855_2115526906_n.jpg)

^ Part of my band recording onto wax cylinder at the Edison Laboratory, Orange, NJ. I'm playing the miniature Les Paul. My favorite part was watching the cylinder-op frantically blowing wax shavings off while we recorded so they wouldn't get wedged under the cutting stylus. Notice how the bell is suspended; that's because it IS the cutting stylus. Incredible experience and an honor. Doing some research before recording I found this highly suggestive technique for fingering handling the cylinder:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/HoldPhonoCylinder.jpg/220px-HoldPhonoCylinder.jpg)

29. more D'Astro sausage


Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: duck_arse on January 04, 2014, 10:36:54 AM
and those special hats? some kind of overdrives?
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: garcho on January 04, 2014, 10:48:39 AM
amplifiers!
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: petey twofinger on January 04, 2014, 04:59:14 PM
the trend to hate on digital modeling inspires ibanez to unleash the ts1212 transistor screamer with surprisingly lifelike jc120 distortion emulation .
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: rockhorst on January 04, 2014, 07:13:13 PM
@Garcho: that's the best pic of the year! Pure gold, got your album cover right there.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on January 04, 2014, 07:37:32 PM
and pink will discover how to make an unbiased germ transistor fuzz with just 4 passives and a pot.... oh wait... that was yesterday!!

;)
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: amptramp on January 04, 2014, 07:42:58 PM
It's hockey season and that is why wax cylinder recordings came to mind.  The oldest recorded sound in history is Lord Stanley (who later donated the Stanley Cup) addressing the opeining of the Canadian Industrial Exhibition in Toronto in 1887 and it was recorded on a wax cylinder.  Tape recordings have been made of it and I have heard one of them.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: amptramp on January 04, 2014, 09:00:39 PM
Someone will finally write an app for getting a camera on a phone or tablet to act as a bucket brigade delay.  The signal will be fed via an LED into one pixel of the camera and the raster generation circuitry will be used to generate the delay.

One thread will show the adaptation of a small steam engine coupled to a generator for use, appropriately enough, as the power supply for a steampunk pedalboard.  Voltage regulation will be by flyball governor.  When you want to up the voltage, you go balls out.

The adaptation of a forked needle to a phonograph cartridge will allow a builder to use non-magnetic guitar strings made of drawn titanium alloy.  Each cartridge will hook its needle over one string and you will get six separate outputs.  Guitar strings will never break or corrode but will cost about $50 apiece.  Shure and Astatic start hiring.  Outputs can be moving magnet, moving coil, ceramic or optical.

Guitars will be made of nickle-titanium memory metal.  After smashing your guitar on stage, you take it to your oven and let it go back to its original shape for the next gig.

An SMD Tillman booster will be incorporated in a guitar cable with the amp at one end and its load resistor and battery at the other.  The cable will be unidirectional, giving you a 50% chance of not being able to do anything.

A thread will show how to recycle a laptop for its battery and charger / voltage regulator circuitry.  The use of 9 volt rectangular batteries drops.

An analog fiber-optic interface allows you to connect pedals without any electrical connection between them.  Ground loop problems vanish.

Conductive ink cartridges will allow you to print a circuit board from a jpeg file or a photograph.  My board can be your board with the right printer.  Cartridge reloading places stock up on conductive cartridge ink.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Quackzed on January 04, 2014, 09:48:05 PM
those are some pretty good predictions,  any stock market advise?  ;D
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: amptramp on January 04, 2014, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: Quackzed on January 04, 2014, 09:48:05 PM
those are some pretty good predictions,  any stock market advise?  ;D

Buy low, sell high.  And buy Radio Shack, it's the company that will not die.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: haveyouseenhim on January 04, 2014, 11:05:08 PM
>Conductive ink cartridges will allow you to print a circuit board from a jpeg file or a photograph.  My board can be your board with the right printer.  Cartridge reloading places stock up on conductive cartridge ink.

Please god, let that come true. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: CodeMonk on January 05, 2014, 01:09:45 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on January 04, 2014, 11:05:08 PM
>Conductive ink cartridges will allow you to print a circuit board from a jpeg file or a photograph.  My board can be your board with the right printer.  Cartridge reloading places stock up on conductive cartridge ink.

Please god, let that come true. :icon_cool:

Oh, oh, oh, oh.
A specialized 3D printer that has 2 different cartridges (Or whatever they use).
One cartridge, fiberglass type material, the other, copper.
Print your own multi-layer PCB's.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: amptramp on January 05, 2014, 08:29:08 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on January 04, 2014, 11:05:08 PM
>Conductive ink cartridges will allow you to print a circuit board from a jpeg file or a photograph.  My board can be your board with the right printer.  Cartridge reloading places stock up on conductive cartridge ink.

Please god, let that come true. :icon_cool:

Look at the rear window defrosters on medern cars.  Conductive traces printed on glass and you can get bottles of conductive touch-up paint that could fit a print cartridge.  And the glass is curved!

God has let it come.  We simply haven't stepped up yet.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: alparent on January 05, 2014, 04:57:47 PM
In an effort to conserve energy and promote peace, electric guitars will be band and we all end-up playing sitars and bongos in our beige robes.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: amptramp on January 06, 2014, 09:54:14 AM
Hammond comes out with a new line of photosensitive aluminum boxes.  You project an image on it from a transparency, wash off the unpolymerized photosensitive material and etch.  The aluminum-copper alloy gives a deep etch in minutes.  No toner, no paper and no arguments about toner or paper.

Telan and Eveready debut new Seebeck-effect thermoelectric generators permitting all the power for a pedalboard to come from candles.  Pedals are then rated in candlepower.

Airbrush-sized sandblasting guns challenge etching as a process for getting aluminum cases to etch.  Rubber templates are used as shields and are reusable.  Process takes ten seconds and if you don't think the etch is deep enough, take a few more seconds.

Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: seedlings on January 06, 2014, 10:16:50 AM
Gibson Starfire and Vox transistor amps will become all-the-rage for Vintage $20,000 tone, and a TW Express will sell for $278 on eBay.

Tayda will offer a 15% off coupon the day after I place an order.

CHAD
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: akc1973 on January 07, 2014, 09:08:30 PM
Quote from: PRR on January 03, 2014, 11:53:42 PM


Does 4-20mA even still exist? I got an elect-tech meter which does everything *except* read current 1mA-1A. I wondered how a tech would troubleshoot 4-20mA gear. Looking around, it seems to be bygone technology.


In the continuous process industry (Oil and Gas, petrochemicals, minerals processing), we use 4 - 20 mA all the time. Despite there being more modern bus-type technologies, the super conservative process industry still loves the 4 - 20 mA loop.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: PRR on January 08, 2014, 05:21:48 PM
> we use 4 - 20 mA all the time

Thanks.

I'm well aware of the advantages. And when you just need a thermometer 190 feet up a tower, it's silly to run fancy-dancy protocols for a slow-changing 1-number reading.

You may not like the Klein CL2000 multimeter. It is incredibly handy for home electric work, and very functional for small electronics, but the Current choices are uA and A, where "A" means clamp-on 200.0A. Readings from a few mA to 100mA seem to be out-of-range.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: italianguy63 on January 08, 2014, 06:01:16 PM
Prediction:  The asian market that is flooding us with pedals, guitars, amps, and parts will gain local followers-- All new heavy metal bands of merit will be from the Pacific Rim.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: cjlectronics on January 09, 2014, 09:26:04 AM
.... Programmable Implanted Guitar effects (PIGe) for the human body.  I'm naming my first PIGe "Arrhythmia Fibrillation"
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Perrow on January 09, 2014, 10:31:23 AM
Effects with built in guitars.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: guitarkill on January 09, 2014, 10:36:28 AM
Did someone already mention yet another Tube Screamer derivative?  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: deadastronaut on January 09, 2014, 11:22:04 AM
i predict 2 lovely twins will play a metallica song on harps... 8)

Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: thelonious on January 09, 2014, 11:48:44 AM
Quote from: amptramp on January 04, 2014, 09:00:39 PM
An analog fiber-optic interface allows you to connect pedals without any electrical connection between them.  Ground loop problems vanish.

Dude. Coolest idea ever. Combine that with Inductive Coupling (http://www.instructables.com/id/Wireless-Power-Transmission-Over-Short-Distances-U/) for power, and goodbye pedalboard wiring tangles!
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on January 09, 2014, 12:04:24 PM
Someone will log onto DIYStomp to report that they received a brand new, etched... Sonic Death Ray Phaser....... and have no idea where it came from, why, or what to do with it!  ::)


Sorry.... I'll get me coat now  8)
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Mark Hammer on January 09, 2014, 12:16:10 PM
How about Hammond releases plastic replacements for the 1590 series....but coated internally with shielding paint!  Suddenly, your pedalboard weighs 8 pounds less!  (And it would weigh 20lbs less if you'd just trade those last two Tonecore pedals to someone)  :icon_mrgreen:

Someone starts providing a 3D printing service where you can get colour-layered knobs made to match your Zoot Suit SG.

Tayda starts selling "chickenhead" knobs that look like actual chicken heads, complete with yellowish beak and floppy red thing on top (no matter what colour you order).

Inspired by the "diamond Shreddies" campaign ( http://www.themarkofaleader.com/library/stories/diamond-shreddies-a-new-angle-on-a-familiar-product/ ), Hammond tries to kickstart uptake of their trapezoid boxes by advertising them as a new line that is wider in the front than it is in the rear.

Clunky germanium "metal can" surface-mount devices become all the rage.

Somebody finally figures out something useful to do with the Princeton PT2399.

LM301 op-amps become all the rage.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: haveyouseenhim on January 09, 2014, 12:25:35 PM
Some idiot on the forum will end up shooting himself in the foot with a high power rifle and the resulting screams will inspire him to make a pedal that sounds like it.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: bluebunny on January 09, 2014, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on January 09, 2014, 12:25:35 PM
Some idiot on the forum will end up shooting himself in the foot with a high power rifle and the resulting screams will inspire him to make a pedal that sounds like it.

I thought you were more a shotgun kinda guy, Mike?  No matter.  Looking forward to seeing that pedal...   :icon_lol:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: bluebunny on January 09, 2014, 03:44:09 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on January 09, 2014, 12:04:24 PM
Someone will log onto DIYStomp to report that they received a brand new, etched... Sonic Death Ray Phaser.......

Don't be daft.  That'll never happen...   :-\
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: haveyouseenhim on January 09, 2014, 07:36:02 PM
Quote from: bluebunny on January 09, 2014, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on January 09, 2014, 12:25:35 PM
Some idiot on the forum will end up shooting himself in the foot with a high power rifle and the resulting screams will inspire him to make a pedal that sounds like it.

I thought you were more a shotgun kinda guy, Mike?  No matter.  Looking forward to seeing that pedal...   :icon_lol:

Nah. I'm into anything that will throw a piece of lead down range. Although you are somewhat right. I shoot a lot of skeet. (Dirty jokes ahead) ::)
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: CodeMonk on January 09, 2014, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: deadastronaut on January 09, 2014, 11:22:04 AM
i predict 2 lovely twins will play a metallica song on harps... 8)



And I predict the same 2 twins will do the Doctor Who theme on harps.
(Yeah, I'm a Dr. Who geek. Have been since the Tom Baker days).
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: amptramp on January 09, 2014, 09:54:48 PM
Someone will build a rechargeable battery-powered effect that uses an electric toothbrush wireless magnetic charger that you sit the unit on when you are not using it.  There is a run on Braun toothbrushes.  RF or optical links from and to pedals means there will be no interconnecting cables - you just put them on your pedalboard and load in the information of what the pedal receives from and what it transmits to and it sits there.  Change the frequency or colour filter to bypass a pedal.  Hum and noise disappear.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Electron Tornado on January 10, 2014, 04:12:19 AM
Another harp duo - Harptallica: 



+1 for Doctor Who




Prediction for 2014 - 3D printers allow DIYers to manufacture their own germanium transistors, tailored to desired specs. NOS germanium market tanks. Same 3D printers allow for DIY manufacture of any other electronic component with either surface mount, or through hole interface.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: JFace on January 10, 2014, 07:58:14 AM
Quote from: Mark Hammer on January 09, 2014, 12:16:10 PM
LM301 op-amps become all the rage.

I'm honestly surprised they aren't more popular. I did a side by side shootout of a bunch of popular chips for overdrive and the LM301 was pretty nice. When I purchased it at my local electronics store I was confusing it with the LM307 (what! this store sells discontinued RAT chips! No way!) I still prefer the LM307  ;D
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: anchovie on January 10, 2014, 08:20:44 AM
Someone will write a program that analyses air-guitar performances in front of a webcam/Kinect, emitting in realtime the sounds that would be produced if an actual guitar was being held.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: nosamiam on January 10, 2014, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: garcho on January 04, 2014, 10:25:20 AM
QuoteWax cylinder recordings make a comeback as a delay element.

Move over Echoplex  ;D

(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/252363_10150992861607855_2115526906_n.jpg)

^ Part of my band recording onto wax cylinder at the Edison Laboratory, Orange, NJ. I'm playing the miniature Les Paul. My favorite part was watching the cylinder-op frantically blowing wax shavings off while we recorded so they wouldn't get wedged under the cutting stylus. Notice how the bell is suspended; that's because it IS the cutting stylus. Incredible experience and an honor. Doing some research before recording I found this highly suggestive technique for fingering handling the cylinder:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/HoldPhonoCylinder.jpg/220px-HoldPhonoCylinder.jpg)

29. more D'Astro sausage




Mucca Pazza!!!!
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Mark Hammer on January 10, 2014, 09:51:36 AM
Anyone intrigued by the photo and recording should check out Stroh violins ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroh_violin  http://www.apartmenthouse.co.uk/strohviols.html ), an instrument I can best describe as the violin equivalent of a dobro - strings assisted by mechanical amplification.  They were used in the early days of recording to produce an acoustic signal of sufficient amplitude to make the needle cut the surface of whatever the recording medium was.  I have a vinyl recording of a piece by Argentinian composer Mauricio Kagel that uses an entire string quartet of them: 2 stroh-violins, one stroh-viola, and a stroh-cello.

In fact, in those early years of recording, there were house bands employed by Columbia, et al, to play the same tune again and again and again, all day long.  Keep in mind that the discs were cut directly and entirely mechanically, so maybe a half dozen copies could be cut in one shot, and the next 6 would require another performance of the same piece.  It can be said that one of the factors contributing to the popularity of John Philip Sousa ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Philip_Sousa ) was that his brass band marches were so loud that many more copies of a recording could be made at once, leading to greater availability and wider distribution of the recordings.

Of course, once there were microphones and magnetic tape, that changed everything.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: mth5044 on January 10, 2014, 12:15:51 PM
Quote from: Electron Tornado on January 10, 2014, 04:12:19 AM
Prediction for 2014 - 3D printers allow DIYers to manufacture their own germanium transistors, tailored to desired specs. NOS germanium market tanks. Same 3D printers allow for DIY manufacture of any other electronic component with either surface mount, or through hole interface.

If it goes that far, why not just print out all the parts already connected? A continuous circuit. Then house it in some kind of... black.. plastic... rectangle with little legs for interface points. We'll call it... an 'integrated circuit'!
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: bluebunny on January 10, 2014, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: mth5044 on January 10, 2014, 12:15:51 PM
We'll call it... an 'integrated circuit'!

It'll never catch on...   :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: PRR on January 10, 2014, 04:40:41 PM
> once there were microphones and magnetic tape

The business of playing the piece over and over and over ended long before that. They developed ways to *duplicate* disks. Make one master, take an impression, use that to stamp-out thousands of duplicates. (This was also the end of cylinders because there never was a very good way to duplicate cylinders.)

Microphones merely reduced the need to play LOUD, and allowed some few tricks, but didn't change the duplication problem.

Tape came much later and didn't really change the disk duplication problem (except that when production was more than thousands, more than could be handled with a 5-step impression process, you could go back to the master tape and get an "original performance" again).
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Jdansti on January 10, 2014, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: deadastronaut on January 09, 2014, 11:22:04 AM
i predict 2 lovely twins will play a metallica song on harps... 8)

The one on the left's not bad looking. ;)
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Jdansti on January 10, 2014, 05:08:03 PM
Quote from: nosamiam on January 10, 2014, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: garcho on January 04, 2014, 10:25:20 AM
QuoteWax cylinder recordings make a comeback as a delay element.

Doing some research before recording I found this highly suggestive technique for fingering handling the cylinder:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/HoldPhonoCylinder.jpg/220px-HoldPhonoCylinder.jpg)

29. more D'Astro sausage




Mucca Pazza!!!!

So not like this?

Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: garcho on January 11, 2014, 10:43:05 AM
^  :icon_eek:


I've played a Stroh violin before, and let's just say, I'd rather drink Stroh's than play one. Flimsy as gossamer and never in tune because of that. Looks amazing, though.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Stroh_Violin_improved_1.PNG/304px-Stroh_Violin_improved_1.PNG)

MIDI outs on pedals.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: amptramp on January 11, 2014, 10:53:54 AM
A new line of delays will come out with a fixed 2.58 second delay.  This is obtained by modulating an RF carrier, aiming it at the moon and recovering the returned signal.  This effect will only be available for the half of the day that the moon is visible.  Recording studios will adjust their schedules accordingly.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Electron Tornado on January 17, 2014, 02:16:54 PM
After having a look around and talking with some people involved in the business end of pedals and amps, etc, here's another prediction. The trend probably began in 2013, but anyway.....

Used pedal will begin to dominate the market. New pedal sales from big names and boutique brands will drop off steadily except for a small portion of  professional and "serious" musicians. Demand for modifications will also decline as musicians will decide to simply buy another pedal that will do what they want for the price of some mods. The community of DIYers will continue at present levels of activity.

As cyclic as trends are, and the fact that some trends have an element of "anti-" whatever the last craze was, I won't be too surprised if there's another acoustic, or "anti-pedal", or folk, or "unplugged" trend somewhere around the corner. If or when that happens, however, not everyone on that bandwagon will completely leave pedals behind.



Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: charmonder on January 17, 2014, 05:47:56 PM
Quote from: Electron Tornado on January 17, 2014, 02:16:54 PM
As cyclic as trends are, and the fact that some trends have an element of "anti-" whatever the last craze was, I won't be too surprised if there's another acoustic, or "anti-pedal", or folk, or "unplugged" trend somewhere around the corner. If or when that happens, however, not everyone on that bandwagon will completely leave pedals behind.
This!
1- Late night TV musical guest:  "unplugged" aesthetic buzz band.
2- year later.
3- Same show, same band, everyone singing through vocoder.


Anyhow I love that old boss AC-2 acoustic simulator pedal.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: CodeMonk on January 18, 2014, 11:14:15 PM
Quote from: amptramp on January 11, 2014, 10:53:54 AM
A new line of delays will come out with a fixed 2.58 second delay.  This is obtained by modulating an RF carrier, aiming it at the moon and recovering the returned signal.  This effect will only be available for the half of the day that the moon is visible.  Recording studios will adjust their schedules accordingly.

And the mix will be determined by the phase of the moon...
(Yeah, I looked it up : http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases.phtml ).

First Quarter--------Mix :  12.50%
Waxing Crescent------Mix :  25.00%
New------------------Mix :  37.50%
Waning Crescent------Mix :  50.00%
Third Quarter--------Mix :  62.50%
Waning Gibbous-------Mix :  75.00%
Full-----------------Mix :  87.50%
Waxing Gibbous-------Mix : 100.00%

Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: duck_arse on January 20, 2014, 10:05:28 AM
Quote from: Electron Tornado on January 17, 2014, 02:16:54 PM
After having a look around and talking with some people involved in the business end of pedals and amps, etc, here's another prediction. The trend probably began in 2013, but anyway.....


As cyclic as trends are, and the fact that some trends have an element of "anti-" whatever the last craze was, I won't be too surprised if there's another acoustic, or "anti-pedal", or folk, or "unplugged" trend somewhere around the corner. If or when that happens, however, not everyone on that bandwagon will completely leave pedals behind.

I'm running after that bandwagon. I've started by modifing my orange squeezer. it can now be used unplugged, for all the "strohtocaster" players. I hope there's lot's of them.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img850/924/j4xa.jpg)
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: thelonious on January 20, 2014, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: duck_arse on January 20, 2014, 10:05:28 AM
it can now be used unplugged, for all the "strohtocaster" players.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img850/924/j4xa.jpg)
^ Bahaha

Next up: homebrew effects that work as a physical extension of the instrument, like the horn on the stroh violin. All guitarists start looking like a one-man band with odd projections and strange devices that connect and disconnect from their instrument.

Here's my distortion effect idea, engaged with lever action:
(http://www.framedrums.net/wp-content/uploads/cajon-flamenco-snare.jpg)
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Pojo on January 20, 2014, 12:44:05 PM
Hahahaha! That reminds me of my first ever guitar I could call 'mine'. I was maybe 12 at the time and it was a trash picked nylon string acoustic. I taped pennies to the thing and rocked out some power chords. My dad must've felt sorry for me because it wasn't long after that he let me keep his '71 Les Paul and a Peavey bandit in my room. The beginning of it all.....ahhhhh yes! Thanks for the memory jolt  ;)

Anyone ever try the brickwall flanger? Just strap on the penny/snare distortion acoustic, face a brick wall and pace forwards and backwards from 5' away to 5" away....rinse and repeat. Rate is determined by leg muscle, still working on the feedback part of the circuit....and through-zero attempts have been rather painful so far.

Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: rousejeremy on January 21, 2014, 10:42:04 PM
Modding all our pedals back to their original circuits.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Perrow on January 22, 2014, 04:10:41 AM
Quote from: rousejeremy on January 21, 2014, 10:42:04 PM
Modding all our pedals back to their original circuits.

Modding my pedals usually brings them back to the original "worked before I boxed it up"-state, at least for a while  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: wavley on January 22, 2014, 10:37:17 AM
Quote from: amptramp on January 11, 2014, 10:53:54 AM
A new line of delays will come out with a fixed 2.58 second delay.  This is obtained by modulating an RF carrier, aiming it at the moon and recovering the returned signal.  This effect will only be available for the half of the day that the moon is visible.  Recording studios will adjust their schedules accordingly.

Working on it!

Quote from: wavley on July 16, 2009, 11:28:33 AM
A few of the guys that I work with are ham radio enthusiasts.  I wonder if I can convince one of them to let me make the Lunar Echo Transceiver and be the first to bounce a guitar off the moon in time to honor Apollo 11!
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Digital Larry on January 22, 2014, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: Pojo on January 20, 2014, 12:44:05 PM
Anyone ever try the brickwall flanger? Just strap on the penny/snare distortion acoustic, face a brick wall and pace forwards and backwards from 5' away to 5" away....rinse and repeat. Rate is determined by leg muscle, still working on the feedback part of the circuit....and through-zero attempts have been rather painful so far.
There is a plastic "chair" swing at the local playground that makes an awesome chorus/flange if you talk/hum/sing while standing behind it and pushing.  The LFO rate is not really adjustable and the S/N suffers a little bit from what appear to be "screaming" noises the higher you take the LFO amplitude.  Also, attempts to adjust the manual delay setting below a certain point often result in the swing hitting you in the face.  Up until that point though it's pretty cool.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: therecordingart on January 22, 2014, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: R.G. on January 01, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
Making estimations from the rate of growth of DIY stompboxes from the 90s to now, I think that by 2027, the number of people building and selling stompboxes will exceed the population of the planet.

So we're going to have to invent interstellar travel and trade with aliens just so we have someone to sell stompboxes to.

:)

I think you're right. The internet has made learing about electronics and technology so....accessible. New technology has also "dumbed down" a lot of the technical knowledge you'd need back in the old days to get started. Not so much relating to stompboxes, but to technology in general. I'm not a very bright guy, but I'm building electronics gadgets, CNC machines, and soon to be farting around with 3D printing. I have zero CAD or machining background. 15 years ago this would be almost unheard of.

Nowadays it seems you can't turn around without bumping into a nerd or geek of some sort.
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: duck_arse on July 02, 2020, 11:23:35 AM
Quote from: Mark Hammer on January 02, 2014, 10:17:57 PM
.......

21) Oh yeah, almost forgot.  I *will* finish my PAiA hyperflange this year.  :icon_wink:  :icon_mrgreen:

« Last Edit: 03-01-2014, 12:23:04 by Mark Hammer »

sorry, Mark, couldn't resist. how's it coming along, by the way?
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Marcos - Munky on July 02, 2020, 01:48:16 PM
It's probably inside a box, inside a closet, inside a room which Mark doesn't know where's the key :icon_lol:
Title: Re: DIY predictions for 2014
Post by: Rodgre on July 02, 2020, 02:23:59 PM
I too have a Hyperflange build somewhere on my way way way way back burner. Someday.....

Roger