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Title: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: Renegadrian on October 17, 2018, 06:39:10 PM
Hello guys, been a while since my last post, all the usual s..t and also good things in life that takes you away from diying (regular job, on 6h shifts, and also got married)

yesterday I was messing with this triode tube, I tried the usual triode configuration and guess what, it works so good!!!

List of voltages and components

22n plate out
33k plate
22k grid
1M grid stop
1k cathode
10 cathode

v in 11.9
multiplier 72.7
plate v 39.7
cathode v 1

mandatory values are the plate resistor and the cathode resistor, other components are up to you.
voltage is from 40106 multiplier, heaters are from a 7906 with a 4148 diode to ground on the middle pin (it goes 6.4 - 6.5 v so it's ok)
next step is a regular dual triode preamp...
Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: vigilante397 on October 17, 2018, 07:34:12 PM
Anyone says "submini tube" and I come running 8) Thanks for sharing! I got a grab bag a while ago that's mostly 6N16's and 6N17's but also has some odd ones, I'll have to see if I've got any of these around.

Also, congrats on getting marriage! ;D
Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: bluebunny on October 18, 2018, 02:35:35 AM
. . . and also got married

And the last thing you mention is getting married??   :o   Don't tell your wife!   ;D

Congratulations, Adriano.   :)
Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: bluebunny on October 18, 2018, 02:38:52 AM
Anyone says "submini tube" and I come running 8)

I think Nathan must be Rick's Padawan.   :)

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Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: thermionix on October 18, 2018, 03:54:33 AM
congrats on getting marriage!

I never got it.
Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: blackcorvo on October 18, 2018, 03:57:10 AM
I have a handful of those tubes, and some other subminiature tubes in my collection. Recently retrofit a full subminiature tube amp into a Honeytone enclosure:

https://hackaday.com/2018/02/19/tiny-guitar-amp-rebuilt-with-tiny-tubes/

Only thing I've changed in the project since then, is that I used a different high-voltage DC-DC converter. Used a smaller one (still plenty of power for the circuit, but easier to place away from the preamp tube, to avoid noise induction).

Honestly thinking of making a little hybrid amp, with subminis and a class D power amp board. A project for the future, for sure.
Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: Renegadrian on October 18, 2018, 04:18:48 AM
I have a handful of those tubes, and some other subminiature tubes in my collection. Recently retrofit a full subminiature tube amp into a Honeytone enclosure:

https://hackaday.com/2018/02/19/tiny-guitar-amp-rebuilt-with-tiny-tubes/

Only thing I've changed in the project since then, is that I used a different high-voltage DC-DC converter. Used a smaller one (still plenty of power for the circuit, but easier to place away from the preamp tube, to avoid noise induction).

Honestly thinking of making a little hybrid amp, with subminis and a class D power amp board. A project for the future, for sure.

Nice! Please put a link of the schem, it would be great to put a submini power amp and get a similar mini amp!!! Tell me more about the converters you used, the bigger one and the latter.
Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: Ben N on October 18, 2018, 04:19:31 AM
Mazel tov, Adriano!
Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: blackcorvo on October 18, 2018, 04:54:03 AM
Nice! Please put a link of the schem, it would be great to put a submini power amp and get a similar mini amp!!! Tell me more about the converters you used, the bigger one and the latter.

Links for all info on the amp are in the description of the video demo, but here's links for you anyways!

Schematic:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kRjJy0BsHAC6VvX6avY4Y4CFoYExGFsx/view

Layout:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mk4kNQyNwoZ5zJtxXG3lCvvqdlmRS31x/view

Build Pics:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bf5q7aaF2qPixvU6I--YhsYx47F8JNcq/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xyqC9Lr7VNUcGUtvma4uwCYhW1ukAUmp/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xZAk3drUVVCxRtXj4dEkGN8gIB2e-NKg/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dXSBM6Jif_heHp5br0Cm7fG1r4nhkY0M/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rdeHD4podVaYnJsbdjmRR7784BN7yFwo/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e3ZsbX5gA7B0XgEHc1at30d1YZlhOyc0/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tGCPy2wAadqZ6GHVfRHL0ibPLrrWO8u7/view

You can find the larger board on eBay by looking up "dc-dc boost converter 390v".
Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: thomasha on October 18, 2018, 03:21:57 PM
Subscribed!

Never heard of the 6s6b, single triode you say? Is it the russian 6C6b? There are some single triodes with really low filament currents, they would be a nice alternative for the 6N17b or the 6111.

Tha honeytone is smaller than I thought, the SMPS takes more space than the OT! Looks like a tight squeeze.

Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: Renegadrian on October 18, 2018, 07:09:35 PM
Never heard of the 6s6b, single triode you say? Is it the russian 6C6b?
yes it's not a regular western letter but a cirillic one, so you see C but it's S
Title: Re: Messing with 6s6b submini tube...
Post by: blackcorvo on October 19, 2018, 02:06:53 AM
Tha honeytone is smaller than I thought, the SMPS takes more space than the OT! Looks like a tight squeeze.

It was, until I changed for the new, smaller SMPS I mentioned before. It sits in the bottom corner now, away from the preamp tube. No more switching noise!  8)
But you could get more room if you were to use a more modern, neodymium magnet speaker, or even an alnico one. I used this ceramic speaker because it looks nice, and also because it kinda helps hold the OT in place without the need for screws or glue.

Also, just a little tip I just discovered, if you wanna use 8-pin subminiature tubes: look up TO-99 or TO-5 IC sockets. They're for those round can style ICs, and they'll work great for these tubes. I didn't know about them when I built the Honeytube, so I ended up soldering my tubes directly onto 9-pin sockets... sigh!