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Title: DIY decal softener!
Post by: sir_modulus on July 25, 2005, 04:34:32 PM
Ever want to try decal softener on your wonderful waterslide decals, but just can't afford any (it can be damned expensive if you can only get the high end suff), or you don't wanna wait for steve to ground ship it across the border...there is a solution ( :D  no pun intended) !!!

I bought some of that "Testors" Decal softener (most model building people should know what I'm talkin' about), and when I opened the bottle....WHOA!!!! Just had to back away cuz it smelled just like vinegar! Well...that led me to thinking...why not try vinegar in water, because that's probably what it is! So..I take out a cup of nice warm water, and just add some vinegar to it, and it actually works! I find that old vinegar, and the noname stuff from "superstore" in canada works best!

Cheers,

Nish
Title: DIY decal softener!
Post by: nelson on July 25, 2005, 05:03:25 PM
clear vinegar or the brown stuff? Or is all ethanoic acid good lol


if only the name fish and chips wasnt taken by danelectro.


Excellent tip, I have to try it out.
Title: DIY decal softener!
Post by: sir_modulus on July 25, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
lol! It's the clear white vinegar stuff.

Cheers,

Nish
Title: DIY decal softener!
Post by: jimbob on July 25, 2005, 05:40:17 PM
nice  discovery!!!
Title: DIY decal softener!
Post by: Paul Marossy on July 25, 2005, 05:58:38 PM
Yet another use for good ol' vinegar!  :wink:
Title: DIY decal softener!
Post by: sir_modulus on July 25, 2005, 08:42:03 PM
Yup 8)

And at $4 for 2 litres compared to $5 for a couple of mls...it'd venture to say it's a bit cheaper than the real deal!  :D
Title: DIY decal softener!
Post by: brett on July 26, 2005, 12:18:47 AM
Hi.
Yeah the guy at the model shop near where I live told me not to waste my money on the "proper" stuff.  That was *after* I bought some off his young assistant-babe the day before.  Apparently, the model builders around here have all been using clear vinegar for years.

cheers
PS here's the face plate of latest amp project.  Decals are so great!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~jethro.dog/mypic162.jpg
Title: DIY decal softener!
Post by: STOMPmole on July 26, 2005, 06:58:27 AM
So how do you use the decal softener?  Do you substitute it for straight water when disolving the backing paper or do you put it over the decal after you slide it off the paper and have it positioned to the box to help 'melt' the edges?
Title: DIY decal softener!
Post by: AL on July 26, 2005, 08:14:06 AM
Ooooh !!! 18 watt. You are going to post pics of that when it's done right? Is that a kit? Nice decals too. Vinegar huh? Great idea !!

AL
Title: Re: DIY decal softener!
Post by: therecordingart on March 25, 2010, 04:22:37 PM
I'm bumping an old thread....

-Can you use vinegar on the inkjet waterslide decals or just laser?

-Do you just blot the edges with a q-tip or cover the the entire decal?

-How long do you let it sit?
Title: Re: DIY decal softener!
Post by: GibsonGM on March 25, 2010, 08:02:35 PM
I just added some to my 'soaking water' while removing the decal from its backing.  It worked well for me with inkjet, so laser must be fine too!   
I mix about 2-3 caps of the white vinegar into a margarine dish sized container of warm water, then soak the decal til it comes off (1 to 2 mins on average).  That softens them enough to be easy to handle, and no worry about adding straight vinegar.
Title: Re: DIY decal softener!
Post by: Electron Tornado on March 25, 2010, 09:28:56 PM
With the ink jet decals, what kind of clear coat have you been using on it before putting it in the water/ vinegar solution?
Title: Re: DIY decal softener!
Post by: kungpow79 on March 25, 2010, 11:04:40 PM
I've only used Duplicolor Automotive Clear coat, which is an acrylic lacquer.  I use this on inkjet decals only.  You don't have to do this on laser jet decals.  But, I think a clear enamel could work too.  I think you just need something to "seal" the inkjet ink on the decal paper.
Title: Re: DIY decal softener!
Post by: GibsonGM on March 26, 2010, 09:26:02 AM
Yeah, just 2 light coats on the ink is how i do it. Let dry thoroughly, then soak away....
Title: Re: DIY decal softener!
Post by: therecordingart on March 26, 2010, 03:53:15 PM
After doing that the vinegar softens the edges enough to make the decals look more painted on than stuck on?
Title: Re: DIY decal softener!
Post by: kungpow79 on March 26, 2010, 04:02:29 PM
Exactly.  Right now I'm using stuff in a little bottle called Micro Sol.  It seems to work.  When you clear coat over that, that also helps to blend away the edges. 

I'd also recommend using a sharp Exacto knife to cut your decals if you do.  If you use scissors, you might cut it at a bevel, which will make the border more distinct.  Use a straightedge and cut with a sharp knife 90 degs to the surface.

Title: Re: DIY decal softener!
Post by: differo on March 31, 2010, 07:48:27 AM
I bought some decal softener, haven't tried it yet. No worries about laser decals but I was thinking: Can you apply softener over the clear-coated ink-jet decal? Anyone tried this? Also is it ok to use laser decal (waterslide and/or sticker) with ink-jet printer? Anyone tried THIS? Maybe the ink from ink-jet won't stick so well on laser decal.. I'm going to buy ink-jet (fore other purposes too) and it would be nice to have color decals if I could use it on my stocked laser decal paper..
Title: Re: DIY decal softener!
Post by: therecordingart on March 31, 2010, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: differo on March 31, 2010, 07:48:27 AM
I bought some decal softener, haven't tried it yet. No worries about laser decals but I was thinking: Can you apply softener over the clear-coated ink-jet decal? Anyone tried this? Also is it ok to use laser decal (waterslide and/or sticker) with ink-jet printer? Anyone tried THIS? Maybe the ink from ink-jet won't stick so well on laser decal.. I'm going to buy ink-jet (fore other purposes too) and it would be nice to have color decals if I could use it on my stocked laser decal paper..


I think it'd have to penetrate the clear coat to work that way. I'm not sure if this would work, and I'd personally be afraid to do it, but maybe take a little steel wool and rub the edges of the decal to expose them through the clear coat. Then apply the stuff, let it do it's thing, and then spray a coat or two of clear.