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Title: Difference between the Ibanez SD9 & the Maxon SD9?
Post by: phostenix on February 12, 2006, 02:02:51 AM
Does anyone know if there is a difference in circuitry between the new(er) Maxon SD9 & the older Ibanez SD9? The Maxon ones go for more on ebay, it seems. I've got a schematic for the Ibanez, but not the Maxon.


Grace and peace,

Steve
Title: Re: Difference between the Ibanez SD9 & the Maxon SD9?
Post by: MartyMart on February 12, 2006, 06:47:27 AM
They are probably exact copies, as "maxon" used to provide all the boards for Ibanez in the 80's !
The Ibanez SD-9 is a sleeper, you could make a DIY version, which benefits from true bypass, it's
a quite rauchous distortion, but you can go from tubescreamer level all the way up :D

I would say that the maxon is a "faithful" re-issue

MM
Title: Re: Difference between the Ibanez SD9 & the Maxon SD9?
Post by: phostenix on February 12, 2006, 12:22:41 PM
Thanks for the info. I'm actually considering modding my Boss DS-1 to SD9 circuitry, since I'm not crazy about the DS-1 & the ME-50 has a close model of it. I keep hearing good things about the Maxon SD9, so I was curious if it differs from my Ibanez schematic at all.


Grace and peace,

Steve
Title: Re: Difference between the Ibanez SD9 & the Maxon SD9?
Post by: TheBigMan on February 12, 2006, 02:53:22 PM
I'd agree with Marty.  Seeing as Maxon were the OEM manufacturers of the original 9 series it'd make sense for them to use the same boards like they did with the TS-9.  So the only change would be Maxon's new switching arrangement.
Title: Re: Difference between the Ibanez SD9 & the Maxon SD9?
Post by: askwho69 on October 19, 2010, 02:08:48 PM
Quote from: phostenix on February 12, 2006, 12:22:41 PM
Thanks for the info. I'm actually considering modding my Boss DS-1 to SD9 circuitry, since I'm not crazy about the DS-1 & the ME-50 has a close model of it. I keep hearing good things about the Maxon SD9, so I was curious if it differs from my Ibanez schematic at all.


Grace and peace,

Steve


DS1 to SD9? how come?
Title: Re: Difference between the Ibanez SD9 & the Maxon SD9?
Post by: zombiwoof on October 19, 2010, 03:13:29 PM
According to Analog Man, the boards in the recent Ibanez pedals is not up to the quality of the Maxon boards.  I don't think anyone knows who is making the recent Ibanez stuff, at least I haven't found out on the net.  I would think the Maxon pedal would be made a little better than the Ibanez, and the Maxon pedals sell for more new, so that might explain the difference in the prices they are going for.  If you go to Analog Man's Tubescreamer mods page, you can see his comments on the quality of the new Ibanez pedals (he's talking about the Tubescreamer, but I'm sure it applies to all of the recent Ibanez line).

Al
Title: Re: Difference between the Ibanez SD9 & the Maxon SD9?
Post by: petemoore on October 19, 2010, 07:42:06 PM
I keep hearing good things about the Maxon SD9.
  The Maxon ones go for more on ebay, it seems.
   
  Check out my maxim signature:
  Convention creates following, following supports convention.
  People talk more about expensive pedal for some reasons.
  The difference of function between TS circuits in various 'peripherals' [where the cost lies..box-switch-pots-jacks and related wireups] is as great as the cost difference between the most inexpensive TS circuit and the most expensive TS circuit?
  The difference we found with TS and all the other drive-distort pedals is what they're plugged in to, and the related settings, even the "Little Green Turtle'' [I got for 5bux] "Ibanez Mini" sounded remarkably identical to the vintage 808, plug-de-plug style test, Turtle>808, also 808>turtle. The little turtle box had us all fooled ! There's no way that box could sound the same. Long time ago, having built BB's and TS derivitaves, it's the opamp/feedback loop/tone control thing. Not to say that some diode changes or even re-voice tryouts won't light up nearly any amp [the mid-boost may isolate extended frequencies some amps 'reject'], stock circuit is nice, and does come w/TC.
  Some use it as mid-booster, some as a heavier distortion element [hot pickups or pre-boost]. After learning about opamp precision and reliability, I found it rather silly that the TS of all circuits would be singled out as the one which deserves endless discussion of 'this one' that one, the better one, the cheep one...if ever there was a circuit that can follow the schematic and become almost exactly like any TS, it is a TS. Schematics vary, as do pickup outputs.
  The peripherals are a bit harder to figure out. If on stage with 10's of demanding audience members, it makes sense to figure out which type of TS actually has the best field test record [ie lowest failure rate]. I don't know if this type of information is available though. Plastic ones seem to provide very good service also.
  For modding of course you'll want a 'reglar sized' board, and sturdier is obviously an advantage. I've had 'em, built 'em on perf with modsockets and other frills, even had a kit OA/FBL/TC distorter. The recipe's turned out fine in any case except I sometimes ran short of the wierd taper tone pot.