Hey there,
I play through a Laney LC30 MK1 Combo and the thing I'm asking is: Does anybody know a stombox (doesn't matter if I can buy or build it) that sounds like a modified JCM800 or Plexi? Think about mid-heavy stuff like A perfect circle, fear factory, Green day's "dookie" - and Peavey XXX crunch channel...
Comments?
(Oh, and Admin: In case this is the wrong section, please move the thread)
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generalguitargadgets.com
I was going to write:
"BSIAB2 at generalguitargadgets.com"
But nero beat me to it.
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Jimbo
Argh! Thanks... The thing I'm angry about is: Why is there no sound sample recorded with a humbucker guitar? Has anybody tried the bsiab2? How's it for low palm-muted power chords? (I'm afraid it might be some kind of vintage solo boost, which is NOT what I'm after. Actually I look for a sound that can compete with a dual rectifier...)
Hmm, to my knowledge, or my ear memory, the dual recto is quite different from a cranked Marsha. It's a great distortion box to build anyway, maybe you can mod it to sound a lil' meaner.
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Jimbo
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear...
I'm not looking for a rectifier sound but for a marshall sound with good low end that can be used instead of a boogyish tone, i.e. mainly for bonecrushing power chords. I'm starting to feel that mesa simply isn't my cup of tea, but i still like the riffs that are usually played through a dual recto.
BSIAB has 2 x Mu.
1 x *Mu +, second gain/distortion stage [enter your 'other choice like a second mu or...] *DIST+ or *FF or...
anyway there's another 'take' on it ... one I like is the Minibooster>Dist+ [modded a bit of course.
@@R@Te, starting with circuit fragments [ITCase Gain/distortion stages] and building them up to combine them may or may not be your cup of tea...if you just want BSIAB, which is sort of versatile on it's own...there it is.
And no, BSIAB isn't a "vintage solo boost" as you described it. It's quite a high gain, loud and will rock your socks off.
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Jimbo
I think the original version of the BSIAB gets close to that sound. I really don't know why everyone has forgotten about it (or think it sucks). :icon_rolleyes: Mine works perfectly fine and doesn't have any issues at all. Anyhow, there's a PCB layout at my site if you need one.
Mine works perfectly fine and doesn't have any issues at all.
I'll have to try another, I tried the II...it had issues *I couldn't deal with.
BSIAB2 will get most of that but I don't know if it has the low end sag I hear in A Perfect Circle tunes. For a more rectifier-like sound you might search out the Dr. Boogey emulator circuit.
Heck, build a box that switches between the Dr. Boogey and the BSIAB! Now there's an idea... :icon_idea:
You could try an Ibanez DS10 Distortion Charger.
(http://i4.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/67/1f/3c_1.JPG)
You should be able to find them fairly cheap. A friend of mine had one, & I used it for a while. It took a bit of practice to get the icepick treble out, but with the treble turned almost off, & the mid slightly up, & the bass way up, it sounded pretty good with the gain around 3-4 o'clock. I replaced the diodes with LEDs, & that gave more volume, with plenty enough gain. The bottom end never flabs or fuzzes out, & stays tight. Maybe it was the particular one I had, but the controls all seemed to have very tight sweet spots that made dialing in the "perfect" tone hard to do at first.
Steve
I have a hotrodded Marshall, a 2205 JCM800 with about $900 worth of Voodoo mods in it. No pedal can get that tone, because you're hitting the power tubes. I use an atenuator with it for lower volumes, or it just doesn't sound as good.
As far as the preamp on the distortion channel, the Keeley DS-1 seeing eye mod is pretty close to my marshall. It's a little too compressed, though, adding LEDs or diodes to taste and keeping the distortion level down increases dynamics. Of course, it needs to be going into a distortion channel as well.
the balls and low end on those amps comes from the power tubes run hard at higher volumes (4+above). No pedal can EXACTLY duplicate that. Which means, your chances of building something and making youre laney sound just like it is small. Now, with some tweaking of BSIAB/BSIAB II and an EQ pedal you may get CLOSER than where you are now. If you want a cranked marshall sound, find an old jcm 800 and put original Siemens EL34s in it. Trust me, you will love it.
Hi,
Try Runoffgroove's Thunderchief!
Good luck!
Peter
The Guv'nor is pretty good for a JCM800 sound. There are some mods to beef it up too. It's pretty tough to know what you really want - but that is another option.
I just built a BSIAB and I think it sounds really cool, i do not think it is Marshall, But I do think it is one of the best pedals that I have heard. Plus it worked first time out.
There is nothing that touches this pedal for the Marshall tone. http://www.v-stack.com/ (http://www.v-stack.com/), I use it as a Direct box on my recorder and it is hard to tell it's not a Marshall. Check out the sound samples.
Yes I know this is a DIY forum!
I just ordered another GGG board to build another BSIAB for a friend that was as impressed as I was. I d not like to show it to people, they all want one.
What about a Marshall Guv'nor? O've never played with one, but I've heard some good things.
-Adam
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the sans amp.
Again, it's not perfect, but close.