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Title: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: birt on January 30, 2007, 04:54:37 PM
i made a feedback looper (with green/red duo color led) and a tap tempo pedal so i decided to try some new finishes. i'm sure they're not new but they are to me.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/siceffects/Electronics15-12-06/DSC_1371.jpg)
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/siceffects/Electronics15-12-06/DSC_1372.jpg)
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/siceffects/Electronics15-12-06/DSC_1377.jpg)
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/siceffects/Electronics15-12-06/DSC_1380.jpg)
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/siceffects/Electronics15-12-06/DSC_1374.jpg)
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o153/siceffects/Electronics15-12-06/DSC_1376.jpg)
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: O on January 30, 2007, 04:57:54 PM
WTF? Are those dead "rolly-pollies"??  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: Paul Marossy on January 30, 2007, 04:59:29 PM
I like the first one, very cool. The second one kind of bugs me, though.  :icon_lol:

Yeah, I was wondering if those are real bugs, too.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: mdh on January 30, 2007, 05:04:08 PM
Quote from: birt on January 30, 2007, 04:54:37 PM
i made a feedback looper (with green/red duo color led) and a tap tempo pedal so i decided to try some new finishes. i'm sure they're not new but they are to me.

I think it's safe to say that the "dead isopod finish" is a new one to most everyone... I sure as hell haven't ever seen anything quite like it!
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: birt on January 30, 2007, 05:18:53 PM
why would i fake dead bugs if i can just find some real bugs? :p

i've been thinking about epoxy-ing dead bugs as a finish for a long time but never did until now. too bad there's isn't much variety in the garden this time of the year.
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: jonathan perez on January 30, 2007, 05:23:23 PM
SIC!!!!


DUDE YOUR GOIN TO HELL!!11!

:icon_evil: :icon_evil: :icon_evil:





;D
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: MartyMart on January 30, 2007, 06:57:49 PM
Birt ... your problem will be, when you play one of those "dark bug infested gigs"











...... you wont know which ones are  ALIVE   !!!!!  :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: markm on January 30, 2007, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: thebattleofmidway on January 30, 2007, 05:23:23 PM
SIC!!!!


DUDE YOUR GOIN TO HELL!!11!

:icon_evil: :icon_evil: :icon_evil:





;D

:icon_lol:
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: christobean on January 30, 2007, 09:17:18 PM
dude those are sick. way to go.(howd u get that shiny finish?)
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: Harry on January 30, 2007, 09:25:09 PM
HHAAHA that's the funniest thing ever. Did you wire it dead bug style too?

Couple of questions...
OK, so did you find them dead or just epoxy in live ones?
Also, is the epoxy hard enough or will it be possible to squish them will stomping?
I can't believe I'm actually thinking of making one with %^&*roaches.
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: O on January 30, 2007, 09:35:55 PM
Quote from: Harry on January 30, 2007, 09:25:09 PM
I can't believe I'm actually thinking of making one with %^&*roaches.

I just threw up in my mouth a little  :-\
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: shadowmaster on January 31, 2007, 04:30:38 AM
Totally rad!!!  ;D ;D ;D This is one of the reasons why I love it here!

What would I be expecting next time...!?!?!?!?

A preserved dead snake coiled around and glued to the enclosure of a pedal...???? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: birt on January 31, 2007, 05:57:04 AM
Quote from: Harry on January 30, 2007, 09:25:09 PM
HHAAHA that's the funniest thing ever. Did you wire it dead bug style too?

Couple of questions...
OK, so did you find them dead or just epoxy in live ones?
Also, is the epoxy hard enough or will it be possible to squish them will stomping?
I can't believe I'm actually thinking of making one with %^&*roaches.

i found them alive and used a hair dryer to get them dry and crispy :p the squishing thing is a problem tough. i need to find a way to prevent that. maybe inject them with epoxy first... or use a second layer when the first one is hard.

%^&*roaches would be quite easy to fill up with epoxy first i think.
the hairdryer method is easy. i made a little box with very open fabric on 2 opposite sides so they couldn't get out. then dried them for 15 seconds. i guess %^&*roaches would need a little longer
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: MartyMart on January 31, 2007, 06:40:25 AM
Yeah, %^&*roaches are meant to be able to survive AFTER a nuclear fallout !!  :icon_eek:

BTW - That's a quite "disgusting" idea  !
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: axeman010 on January 31, 2007, 06:54:11 AM
You need help man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May I suggest a new forum for you !

http://mentalhelp.net/poc/view_index.php?idx=community

Axeman.
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: brett on January 31, 2007, 07:06:08 AM
Hi
Those dead bugs are really nice.
If you want hard, well-preserved bugs, you can infuse them with exopy resin.

The technique is to introduce the expoy via a series of compatible solvents.  Try alcohol then acetone then epoxy.  Two or three rinses in the solvents will dissolve away any exopy-incompatible stuff in the bugs.  IIRC from university days, there was a step in the middle that involved xylene (? between the alcohol and the acetone, I suppose).  But xylene is nasty stuff, and best avoided if possible.  The results are impessive, not the least because all the watery and fatty parts of the bugs get dissolved away, making them glassy and their guts translucent.

cheers
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: axeman010 on January 31, 2007, 08:07:38 AM
On a serious note is that tap tempo box just a footswitch for a commercial pedal ?

Axeman
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: birt on January 31, 2007, 09:09:59 AM
yes
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: dano12 on January 31, 2007, 09:54:47 AM
Beauty and the beast! Nice dremel job on the first one. The second one is great! I don't see what the fuss is all about.

When I was a wee lad, my brother and I used to catch %^&*roaches and pin them to cardboard. We would then attach pins to the outputs of a model train transformer and use it to "animate" the %^&*roach by poking the pins into various parts of the still-alive bug. Note that this was all done in the name of science, not because my brother and I were deliquents with too much time on our hands (which we were).

I think you could elevate your bug pedal to the level of performance art by attaching live roaches to the outside of the pedal and have them hardwired to the output of the pedal--thereby causing the bug to move its legs in proportion to the output of the circuit. If you decide to go into commercial production, you could easily establish a recurring revenue stream by supplying customers with fresh %^&*roaches from various corners of the world. I would imagine that, depending on how you wire the circuit, the roach could actually become a part of the pedal's overall tonality. For example, additional leads to the thorax could act as a capacitor.

%^&*roaches from different parts of the world could demand premium prices and thereby start a new industry in the cultivation and collection of NOS or exotic bugs. One can imagine the comments of "I prefer the haunting mids of the Peruvian Hissing Deathroach for my distortion needs, and rely on common Florida palmetto bugs for my mid-range TS type sounds."

Just a modest proposal.
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: e45tg4t3 on January 31, 2007, 11:58:52 AM
very nice ideas @ birt
i think i´m gonna catch some butterfly´s next summer....
but BTW: How do you de-bug this little thing :icon_mrgreen:
(sry but it was the first thing i thougt as i saw this pedal^^)

Benny
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: rockgardenlove on January 31, 2007, 12:12:36 PM
...Wtf?
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: igor12 on January 31, 2007, 12:30:54 PM
Totally unique,  but I can't really advocate destroying life for the purpose of an effect finish
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: rockgardenlove on January 31, 2007, 01:04:33 PM
^I rather agree.
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: blanik on January 31, 2007, 01:09:39 PM
next time i get a call for a metro suicide jumper i'll keep skull fragments to epoxy on hammond boxes, it's gonna be called "Cranium Overdrivium"  :icon_wink:

i predict a huge sucess with goth bands...  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: stm on January 31, 2007, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: igor12 on January 31, 2007, 12:30:54 PM
Totally unique,  but I can't really advocate destroying life for the purpose of an effect finish

I support the above statement, and I'm not comfortable about the many bugs I killed "in the name of science" when I was a kid.

Nevertheless, if you come by a dead roach you might consider drilling a 5mm hole in the box and planting a hi-eff red, orange or yellow LED leveled with the box.  Then expoxy the roach above the LED so when the effect is engaged the roach itself will lit  :icon_twisted:

You can also try a light bug with a lime green LED as well.
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: Paul Marossy on January 31, 2007, 08:27:39 PM
A scorpion imbedded in epoxy would be cool. When I was a kid (in the 70s) I went to the Petrified Forest and bought this resin paperweight with a scorpion in it from a gift shop there. I thought that was the coolest thing at the time...
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: stm on January 31, 2007, 10:34:14 PM
Scorpions are fluorescent, meaning that if you use a violet or UV LED it will emit with a whitish glow.
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: JonFrum on February 01, 2007, 12:12:15 AM
As a former biology major - with two beetle tatoos on my arm - I think it's too cool!    :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: stankyfish on February 01, 2007, 12:16:34 AM
Quote from: birt on January 30, 2007, 04:54:37 PM
i made a feedback looper (with green/red duo color led) and a tap tempo pedal so i decided to try some new finishes. i'm sure they're not new but they are to me.


"No bugs were hurt in the making of this pedal."
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: John Lyons on February 01, 2007, 12:54:49 AM
Snakeskin you say?

(http://www.mrdwab.com/john/snakefilterweb.jpg)
Python skin  "State Variable Filter" (with foot controlled sweep)


(http://www.mrdwab.com/john/rattlesnake-body.jpg)
Western Diamond back Rattlesnake (in progress)


(http://www.mrdwab.com/john/rattle-snake-skin-box.jpg)
Pedal of same covering (in progress)

Just some of the things I've got going.

John


Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: blanik on February 01, 2007, 01:44:23 AM
wow Basiaudio, your stuff is amazing! did you do the variable filter enclosure yourself? looks interesting for a whammy type pedal...

R
(does the skin comes with snake oil?)  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: petemoore on February 01, 2007, 02:20:47 AM
 Snakeskin sure looks cool !
  I think a 'fancier' style bug, painted bright colors, maybe some gold leaf, then epoxied might look pretty cool.
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: Cliff Schecht on February 01, 2007, 02:22:40 AM
Quote from: dano12 on January 31, 2007, 09:54:47 AM
Beauty and the beast! Nice dremel job on the first one. The second one is great! I don't see what the fuss is all about.

When I was a wee lad, my brother and I used to catch %^&*roaches and pin them to cardboard. We would then attach pins to the outputs of a model train transformer and use it to "animate" the %^&*roach by poking the pins into various parts of the still-alive bug. Note that this was all done in the name of science, not because my brother and I were deliquents with too much time on our hands (which we were).

I think you could elevate your bug pedal to the level of performance art by attaching live roaches to the outside of the pedal and have them hardwired to the output of the pedal--thereby causing the bug to move its legs in proportion to the output of the circuit. If you decide to go into commercial production, you could easily establish a recurring revenue stream by supplying customers with fresh %^&*roaches from various corners of the world. I would imagine that, depending on how you wire the circuit, the roach could actually become a part of the pedal's overall tonality. For example, additional leads to the thorax could act as a capacitor.

%^&*roaches from different parts of the world could demand premium prices and thereby start a new industry in the cultivation and collection of NOS or exotic bugs. One can imagine the comments of "I prefer the haunting mids of the Peruvian Hissing Deathroach for my distortion needs, and rely on common Florida palmetto bugs for my mid-range TS type sounds."

Just a modest proposal.

This entire thread just made my day. I've been doing homework since 10 AM, finished at 12...
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: rockgardenlove on February 01, 2007, 02:32:10 AM
What's the best way to preserve entrails?
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: blanik on February 01, 2007, 02:50:28 AM
Quote from: rockgardenlove on February 01, 2007, 02:32:10 AM
What's the best way to preserve entrails?

generic isopropyl alcohol and a tightly sealed jar...  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: choklitlove on February 01, 2007, 04:38:35 AM
Quote from: stm on January 31, 2007, 07:57:04 PM
Nevertheless, if you come by a dead roach you might consider drilling a 5mm hole in the box and planting a hi-eff red, orange or yellow LED leveled with the box.  Then expoxy the roach above the LED so when the effect is engaged the roach itself will lit  :icon_twisted:
i guarantee that would start to smell after a few minutes!



does anyone else think snakeskin is disgusting?
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: John Lyons on February 01, 2007, 11:08:38 AM
The state variable filter is based on craig andertons Super tone control. I've posted about it a few times. Short answer is that it's really cool and versitile Wah, Filter sweep, studio type eq or just a nice boost or notch type eq with a resonance control. yes, I did it myself.
The snake oil came with this one but isn't necessary!  WHen the guy who commissioned this first broughy the idea up I laughed out loud.
After 3 things covered with snake skin I'm getting used to it and really like it The texture of the skin is like thick paper or very thin leather. A bitch to work with. Many hours to cover the guitar and seal it. I'll post the finished pics when I'm done. Looks a lot better now that it's sealed and smooth, damn those scales are hard to smooth out!

John

Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: Cliff Schecht on February 01, 2007, 11:30:32 AM
What kind of guitar is that?
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: Ronsonic on February 01, 2007, 11:37:07 AM
Quote from: choklitlove on February 01, 2007, 04:38:35 AM
Quote from: stm on January 31, 2007, 07:57:04 PM
Nevertheless, if you come by a dead roach you might consider drilling a 5mm hole in the box and planting a hi-eff red, orange or yellow LED leveled with the box.  Then expoxy the roach above the LED so when the effect is engaged the roach itself will lit  :icon_twisted:
i guarantee that would start to smell after a few minutes!



does anyone else think snakeskin is disgusting?

Snake skin is badass. Just listen to Bo Diddly, he'll tell ya.

Ron
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: John Lyons on February 01, 2007, 11:39:23 AM
It was a '56 strat with an ugly sea foam green finish... Just kidding!

It's an 90's Carvin neck through body with a Kahler floating tremolo. I am putting in active EMGs in it that are white. I was going to cover them with snake skin as well but though better... Painted them hammertone brown.

Yeah. bo Diddly... he even "wore a cobra snake for a neck tie"

John


Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: blanik on February 01, 2007, 01:23:20 PM
but how did you do the filter wah pedal? it look really pro, usually on hand made boxes you can see sharp corners, yours look like you took the pedal from something elses and an already existing enclosure...?


R.
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: John Lyons on February 01, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
The Foot pedal was from a foot operated speed control from a machine shop.  Wish I had 50 of them!! I'l settle for one more even.
The control panel is made from wood. You can see some of my other stuff on my site below (in with my signature etc) .
As I was saying, if you search for Super Tone Control you will come up with my previous posts on this build, has more details about the box etc.


John

Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: Antero on February 01, 2007, 06:03:13 PM
Wow.  Okay, this thread wins forever.
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: mattpocket on February 02, 2007, 04:03:16 AM
You hairdried them to death? That's not right man! Couldnt you find some dead ones somewhere, not that it's much better. Maybe next time you could head to the hospital and wait for john doe's body to be released and pull out an eye or something for your next pedal, you could mount it on the enclosure and put the LED inside...

Wtf, It's a good job we're at the top of the food chain...

I'm vegetarian, so my feelings about this are pretty much aired...
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: Peter Snowberg on February 02, 2007, 11:55:23 AM
Quote from: mattpocket on February 02, 2007, 04:03:16 AM
Wtf, It's a good job we're at the top of the food chain...

(http://www.islandadventurecentre.com/images/body/thumbnails/img_9.jpg)

:icon_wink:
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: JonFrum on February 02, 2007, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: mattpocket on February 02, 2007, 04:03:16 AM


Wtf, It's a good job we're at the top of the food chain...




(http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051212/images/051212-10.jpg)
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: mattpocket on February 02, 2007, 03:20:17 PM
I dont think an inflatable alien is much of a threat to the human race...
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: Ronsonic on February 02, 2007, 11:40:23 PM
Quote from: mattpocket on February 02, 2007, 03:20:17 PM
I dont think an inflatable alien is much of a threat to the human race...

I dunno, the blinky aliens can shut down a major city.

Ron
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: blanik on February 03, 2007, 12:00:34 AM
you guys crack me up... :D
Title: Re: some new finishes i tried (pics)
Post by: rockgardenlove on February 03, 2007, 01:38:40 AM
Quote from: Ronsonic on February 02, 2007, 11:40:23 PM
Quote from: mattpocket on February 02, 2007, 03:20:17 PM
I dont think an inflatable alien is much of a threat to the human race...

I dunno, the blinky aliens can shut down a major city.

Ron
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6319211.stm
:D :D