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Title: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 12, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
As some of you may have noticed, i've been re-drawing the hard to read schematics of the Vintage EHX Pedals and also played a part in the Run of the Bad Stone PCBs being produced and I wondered if people would like to see some other Vintage EHX effects brought back from the brink of extinction in professional pcb form...? I've always thought it was a shame that alot of there effects have been lost and are either in the hands of collectors gathering dust or just don't have re-newed interest in projects for them.

So vote for one or two (Just post the names of the 2 you want to vote for, couldn't see how to poll) I'm not making promises but i'd atleast like an idea to see if I should. There's also a few other ideas I had... one is the Guyatone FL-3 Flanger to fit into a 1590B enclosure (A battery would probably fit too if you stuck the jacks under the PCB like the MXR Micro Flangers, or would just fit if you used a 125B). The second idea is the BOSS VB-2 with the Hold Function converted to a more available OTA chip... and a few more standard projects... There's also another choice or two but I'm not going to post them untill I get the go ahead from the relevant parties.

All the boards will be for board mounted pots and be dual sided (possibly 4-layer, depends) with silk screen and probably simmilar in cost to the Bad Stone boards depending on size and interest warranting larger quantity orders... some mods may be applied to the originals to overcome any issues they may have (such as the LPB-1 added on the Bad Stone because of the volume drop or conversions to easier find chips)

If you have any suggestions for other EHX Pedals that I might have missed or not known about aslong as there is some form of schematic about i'll look into them.


1 ) EHX Pulsar Tremolo (Original Version, With Mods & Improvements, including optional LFO time LED, Gain Trimmer, Buffers and click/tick reducing precautions, to fit a 1590B)
2 ) EHX Zipper (Envelope Filter)
3 ) EHX Double Tracker (Analog Slap Back Delay Converted to V3205, Most likely to fit a 1590B)
4 ) EHX Octave Multiplexer (Analog Octave Down, Hopefully to fit a 1590B, decided against the Deluxe Version fow now to avoid the extra OTA)
5 ) EHX Frequency Analyzer (With Charge Pump instead of 40V Supply & Converted to the more easily obtainable MC1496 Chip)
6 ) EHX Clone Theory (MN3007 Version with Charge Pump)
7 ) EHX Deluxe Big Muff (Basically an Op-Amp Big Muff with Black Finger Compressor, Charge Pump to Avoid Bipolar Supply, Not sure which version to do)
8 ) EHX Small Clone (To Fit a 1590B, For either MN3007 or 3207 with onboard mod options)
9 ) BOSS VB-2 Vibrato (Hold Function Converted to use LM13700 or CA3080E)
10 ) MXR M-117 Flanger (Converted to MN3007 and Charge Pump...Mulling this one over still as an idea...)
11 ) Pearl OC-7 (Analog Octave Up & Down)
12 ) PT2399 Delay with Modulation (To Fit a 1590B, think DIY EHX Memory Toy)
13 ) Guyatone FL-3 Flanger (To Fit a 1590B, Uses the 3207, 3102 combo with added Regen Pot probably ala Soldermans Mod)
14 ) To be Confirmed...

(The EHX Pedals i've already vetoed - EHX Attack Decay, EHX Micro Synth, EHX Deluxe Octave Multiplexer, EHX Polyphase, EHX Deluxe Memory Man (I think this project is being undertaken by someone else already) EHX Electric Mistress (The TZF version is too much of an undertaking and I'd rather see that in production than the usual one) EHX Echo Flanger and its variants, Small Stone, Compressors and any of the other EHX Effects that are already popular anyway such as LPB1s, Big Muffs etc.)
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Jaicen_solo on October 12, 2010, 01:20:52 PM
My vote is for numbers 4 and 11, gotta love those octave pedals!
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: karter2000 on October 12, 2010, 02:29:40 PM
I'm all for 4 and 11 as well, as I want to build an octave pedal.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 12, 2010, 02:32:52 PM
It musn't be forgotten though that Taylor I beleive is about to release boards for the Simplified BOSS OC-2 (Unless i'm mistaken Taylor?)

So choosing an Octave for the sake of an Octave Pedal might not be necessary.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Jaicen_solo on October 12, 2010, 03:22:50 PM
True, but these do +/- 1 Oct, the OC2 only does -1.
They're also very different beasts in terms of how they work, so all worth building in my view.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 12, 2010, 03:42:30 PM
Quote from: Jaicen_solo on October 12, 2010, 03:22:50 PM
True, but these do +/- 1 Oct, the OC2 only does -1.
They're also very different beasts in terms of how they work, so all worth building in my view.
The Multiplexer only does -1 just to note.

But yeah they are different beasts, I always held an interest in the Pearl.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Barcode80 on October 12, 2010, 04:40:41 PM
I was just recently digging up Pearl schems for that one, i'd love a board for that octaver. But these are all fine choices.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Ry on October 12, 2010, 04:55:49 PM
I recently revived a vintage Frequency Analyzer.  It's surprisingly great, almost as good as the Maestro Ring Mod clone I built years ago.  This pedal should not be overlooked.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: jkokura on October 12, 2010, 05:16:31 PM
I think I might be most tempted to build the MXR M117 Flanger personally. I don't think I'd build much else on the list.

That said, I'm sure others would be interested in them. It's a great idea

Jacob
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Strategy on October 12, 2010, 05:45:03 PM
Polychorus/Echoflanger
Handclap machine (forget the exact name though...not clap trap. Clap Track?)

while I'm brainstorming other vintagey pedals lost to the sands of time:
Mu-Tron Octave Divider (I know, people/forums have tried)
Foxx guitar synth pedal (??)
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 12, 2010, 05:51:21 PM
Quote from: Strategy on October 12, 2010, 05:45:03 PM
Polychorus/Echoflanger
Handclap machine (forget the exact name though...not clap trap. Clap Track?)

while I'm brainstorming other vintagey pedals lost to the sands of time:
Mu-Tron Octave Divider (I know, people/forums have tried)
Foxx guitar synth pedal (??)

The Polychorys/EchoFlanger i'm afraid is in the Vetoe list (atleast for the moment) big undertaking as it needs converting to the MN3007 properly with proper verification, it'd be a long job, i'll look into the Clap Track although that might be a bit of a specific effect and a complex build as you'd need something for the pad.

Could do the Octave Divider but i'd rather do the Pearl OC-7 (wasn't the Mutron just an Octave down with a green ringer?) The Foxx, dunno that one, i'll look at it.

Edit:
Can't find schematics for either the Foxx or the Clap Track, any idea if they can even be found?
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: jefe on October 12, 2010, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on October 12, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
2 ) EHX Zipper (Envelope Filter)

Intrigued.. is this the one with the tube?
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 12, 2010, 06:18:12 PM
Quote from: jefe on October 12, 2010, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on October 12, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
2 ) EHX Zipper (Envelope Filter)

Intrigued.. is this the one with the tube?
Nope, the original 70s version, completely different design, the sound should be simmilar to the EHX Queen Triggered Wah, by all accounts this is a great Envelope Filter.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Taylor on October 12, 2010, 07:19:21 PM
I'd like to see a Frequency Analyzer board with the changed power supply. Would nicely compliment my Ring Stinger, which doesn't clean up that well.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Strategy on October 13, 2010, 12:08:42 AM
I'll poke around for the clap schematic. It may be highly similar to the Boss HC-2 but the EHX clap is very distinctive and on a lot of interesting records ala Cabaret Voltaire, 70s and early 80s type electronic punk type stuff. The pads for those things tend to be very simple in a lot of case based around your typical piezo. An input jack to the trigger inp on the board is likely to do just as well...

Mutron Octave Divider is indeed a low octave + green ringer, but known to be highly stable in tracking by comparison to others. I'm sort of a mutron freak, so perhaps I'm in a minority of thinking that's a nice project.

Thanks for hearing out the suggestions! I understand re: Polychorus too complex.

Quote from: Scruffie on October 12, 2010, 05:51:21 PM
Quote from: Strategy on October 12, 2010, 05:45:03 PM
Polychorus/Echoflanger
Handclap machine (forget the exact name though...not clap trap. Clap Track?)

while I'm brainstorming other vintagey pedals lost to the sands of time:
Mu-Tron Octave Divider (I know, people/forums have tried)
Foxx guitar synth pedal (??)

The Polychorys/EchoFlanger i'm afraid is in the Vetoe list (atleast for the moment) big undertaking as it needs converting to the MN3007 properly with proper verification, it'd be a long job, i'll look into the Clap Track although that might be a bit of a specific effect and a complex build as you'd need something for the pad.

Could do the Octave Divider but i'd rather do the Pearl OC-7 (wasn't the Mutron just an Octave down with a green ringer?) The Foxx, dunno that one, i'll look at it.

Edit:
Can't find schematics for either the Foxx or the Clap Track, any idea if they can even be found?
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: RonaldB on October 13, 2010, 12:36:02 AM
I would love to see boards for the EHX attack decay, EHX tube zipper, EHX microsynth and numbers 4 and 11.

RonaldB
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Gladmarr on October 13, 2010, 12:52:47 AM
I know this isn't even on the list and would be a monster, but 16 Second Delay!!

The reissue just didn't hit the mark.....
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: derevaun on October 13, 2010, 04:29:52 AM
2 (Zipper) and 8 (Small Clone) seem like the biggest payoff to me. Cheers in any case!
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: StephenGiles on October 13, 2010, 07:27:33 AM
No 4 but the deluxe version, because that has the Guitar Synth Fundamental Extractor and tracked very well indeed. There were 2 versions of this.

The standard Octave Multiplexer was useless.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Mark Hammer on October 13, 2010, 08:30:42 AM
The Y-Triggered Filter, while not the world's greatest envelope-controlled filter, isn't half bad, provides up and down sweep and some degree of control over resonance.  Perhaps equally important, it uses pretty much easily available or substitutable parts.  I've always wanted to clone it, but the original drawing is appalling.  A re-draw would be a big help in figuring out how to lay out the parts on perf.

Here are some pics I did of the board on mine.  You will note that I changed a couple parts for "higher quality" components.  Everything else - including most of the "flying components" - is stock.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mhammer/YTF-labelledmirror-imagecopperside.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mhammer/ytf_co1.jpg

Anything that brings me a step closer to the goal is deeply appreciated.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 13, 2010, 09:17:20 AM
Quote from: Mark Hammer on October 13, 2010, 08:30:42 AM
The Y-Triggered Filter, while not the world's greatest envelope-controlled filter, isn't half bad, provides up and down sweep and some degree of control over resonance.  Perhaps equally important, it uses pretty much easily available or substitutable parts.  I've always wanted to clone it, but the original drawing is appalling.  A re-draw would be a big help in figuring out how to lay out the parts on perf.

Here are some pics I did of the board on mine.  You will note that I changed a couple parts for "higher quality" components.  Everything else - including most of the "flying components" - is stock.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mhammer/YTF-labelledmirror-imagecopperside.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mhammer/ytf_co1.jpg

Anything that brings me a step closer to the goal is deeply appreciated.
Cheers Mark, that was actually underway as a schematic re-draw & conversion to CA3080 instead of 3094, those pictures will be very handy!
I think i'd pick the Zipper for the actual fabbed project just because it's the more complex and supposedly better but someone else contacted me and should be working on a shrunk down original layout once we've confirmed the schematic etc. so that one is in the works.

Quote from: StephenGiles on October 13, 2010, 07:27:33 AM
No 4 but the deluxe version, because that has the Guitar Synth Fundamental Extractor and tracked very well indeed. There were 2 versions of this.

The standard Octave Multiplexer was useless.
Well I did decide against it for the moment, but maybe I should take another look at that one, I didn't realise the Deluxe version had an improved Fundamental Extractor system, I assumed they both used the same one and the Deluxe just had added features. If someone could leand a hand with prototyping the boards that might push me in the right direction.

Quote from: Gladmarr on October 13, 2010, 12:52:47 AM
I know this isn't even on the list and would be a monster, but 16 Second Delay!!

The reissue just didn't hit the mark.....
No idea where we'd get the original chips for that bad boy, I think that one really is a case of buy it or don't have it sadly.

Quote from: RonaldB on October 13, 2010, 12:36:02 AM
I would love to see boards for the EHX attack decay, EHX tube zipper, EHX microsynth and numbers 4 and 11.

RonaldB
Attack Decay & Micro Synth are both out for being too complex (and apparently the Attack Decay is fairly useless to actually use) and the Tube Zipper is a current production pedal anyway so that's a no (also with the transformer and high voltages and so on)... don't wanna step on Puretubes toes there too.

4 & 11 are seeming popular,  if someone agrees to help build up a prototype board and help check layouts then that'll be between the Deluxe Octave Multiplexer & Pearl OC-7... I think the current boards in the race are in no particular order -
1) Deluxe Octave Multiplexer
2) Pearl OC-7
3) Zipper
4) Guyatone Flanger (cause I wanna 1590B Flanger and a boards already been drawn up... but I wont let that stop another run)
5) Frequency Analyzer
6) One of the Choruses
7) MXR Flanger

Projects I hope to arrange off fabrication -
Slap Back Delay for V3205 & Y-Triggered Filter
+
Quote from: Strategy on October 13, 2010, 12:08:42 AM
I'll poke around for the clap schematic. It may be highly similar to the Boss HC-2 but the EHX clap is very distinctive and on a lot of interesting records ala Cabaret Voltaire, 70s and early 80s type electronic punk type stuff. The pads for those things tend to be very simple in a lot of case based around your typical piezo. An input jack to the trigger inp on the board is likely to do just as well...

If you find that schematic, i'm definitley interested in bringing it into some form of the DIY world, i'm gunna have to learn how to do PCBs out of Express PCB for these last Three though...


I'm suprised there hasn't been much interest for the VB-2... but that woulda been a pain anyway probably.

Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Mark Hammer on October 13, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Scruffie on October 13, 2010, 09:17:20 AM
I'm suprised there hasn't been much interest for the VB-2... but that woulda been a pain anyway probably.
Well, Behringer has a cheap clone available for those who crave it, and BYOC has a kit, so the motivation is no that high.  As well, I think the appetite for vibrato, and particularly a gradual vibrato (which is the unique feature of the VB-2) is a niche market.  My sense is that the intent of the VB-2 was originally to appeal to folks who wanted to be able to mimic the introduction of LFO modulation with a thumbwheel on a synth.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: StephenGiles on October 13, 2010, 09:44:22 AM
Quote from: Mark Hammer on October 13, 2010, 08:30:42 AM
The Y-Triggered Filter, while not the world's greatest envelope-controlled filter, isn't half bad, provides up and down sweep and some degree of control over resonance.  Perhaps equally important, it uses pretty much easily available or substitutable parts.  I've always wanted to clone it, but the original drawing is appalling.  A re-draw would be a big help in figuring out how to lay out the parts on perf.

Here are some pics I did of the board on mine.  You will note that I changed a couple parts for "higher quality" components.  Everything else - including most of the "flying components" - is stock.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mhammer/YTF-labelledmirror-imagecopperside.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mhammer/ytf_co1.jpg

Anything that brings me a step closer to the goal is deeply appreciated.

The VCF formed around the CA3094 looks very complicated the way it was drawn, although as you say is half decent. An update using an LM13600 might be interesting, although an SSM 2164 might just be simpler!
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 13, 2010, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: Mark Hammer on October 13, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Scruffie on October 13, 2010, 09:17:20 AM
I'm suprised there hasn't been much interest for the VB-2... but that woulda been a pain anyway probably.
Well, Behringer has a cheap clone available for those who crave it, and BYOC has a kit, so the motivation is no that high.  As well, I think the appetite for vibrato, and particularly a gradual vibrato (which is the unique feature of the VB-2) is a niche market.  My sense is that the intent of the VB-2 was originally to appeal to folks who wanted to be able to mimic the introduction of LFO modulation with a thumbwheel on a synth.
True, perhaps efforts would be better spent on a rehousing project for the Behringer one with improvements (not by myself mind) I think the BYOC has been discontinued since but yeah it is a niche but it always seemed to be one of those 'holy-grail' effects to me that people lusted after but weren't willing to shed out for the costs due to the limited quantity of the pedals still in circulation, I suppose it wouldn't be much different from doing a SG-1 run and not many people would probably go for that either.

Anyway, i'm gunna get to work on drawing this Y-Filter schematic out and then conversion can be sorted out after when we can actually read half of what it says.

Any other schematics that particularly need re-drawing while i'm here?
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: StephenGiles on October 13, 2010, 10:24:02 AM
Quote from: Scruffie on October 13, 2010, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: Mark Hammer on October 13, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Scruffie on October 13, 2010, 09:17:20 AM
I'm suprised there hasn't been much interest for the VB-2... but that woulda been a pain anyway probably.
Well, Behringer has a cheap clone available for those who crave it, and BYOC has a kit, so the motivation is no that high.  As well, I think the appetite for vibrato, and particularly a gradual vibrato (which is the unique feature of the VB-2) is a niche market.  My sense is that the intent of the VB-2 was originally to appeal to folks who wanted to be able to mimic the introduction of LFO modulation with a thumbwheel on a synth.
True, perhaps efforts would be better spent on a rehousing project for the Behringer one with improvements (not by myself mind) I think the BYOC has been discontinued since but yeah it is a niche but it always seemed to be one of those 'holy-grail' effects to me that people lusted after but weren't willing to shed out for the costs due to the limited quantity of the pedals still in circulation, I suppose it wouldn't be much different from doing a SG-1 run and not many people would probably go for that either.

Anyway, i'm gunna get to work on drawing this Y-Filter schematic out and then conversion can be sorted out after when we can actually read half of what it says.

Any other schematics that particularly need re-drawing while i'm here?


A redraw of the YTF would be welcome, just taken another look at the factory circuit and it's appalling to say the least!!
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Hides-His-Eyes on October 13, 2010, 10:27:30 AM
I'd love the VB2 but to be honest I think I might just be better rehousing a behringer for TB!

Watching with interest but I'll let you guys decide what'd be best :)
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Barcode80 on October 13, 2010, 04:07:32 PM
I'ld build up test/proto board(s) for the octaves if need be.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: puretube on October 13, 2010, 06:26:53 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on October 13, 2010, 09:17:20 AM
...Attack Decay & Micro Synth are both out for being too complex (and apparently the Attack Decay is fairly useless to actually use) and the Tube Zipper is a current production pedal anyway so that's a no (also with the transformer and high voltages and so on)... don't wanna step on Puretubes toes there too.


Thanxs...  :icon_wink: (http://s661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/puretube/MagicTon/?action=view&current=DSCF3957.mp4)  :icon_smile:
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Taylor on October 13, 2010, 09:08:31 PM
Is that you, Ton? In a suit with your hair slicked back? So different from the style you are normally rocking!  8)
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Rodgre on October 14, 2010, 12:50:20 AM
I think the original Zipper is a pretty fantastic sounding envelope filter. Really unique sounding to my ears.

I'm sad that the Attack Decay is so complex for what it does. I know that the Pigtronix Attack/Sustain and the new Philosopher King are updated versions as far as I've been told. For a one-trick pony, I love the sound of that box. Too bad that trick isn't worth $500 to me.

Vetoed, but I second that the modern version 16 Second Delay is not as cool and trashy sounding as the original.

Roger
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: dmc777 on October 14, 2010, 02:55:08 AM
Double Tracking delay......I've always been curious about these and the schematic doesn't look that hard.

Also, this isn't new but the POG seems to always intrigue me. I have schematics for most of current production products as well. Excluding the new memory boys, freeze, etc....just the ones before all the newer clone versions.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Taylor on October 14, 2010, 03:07:38 AM
Quote from: dmc777 on October 14, 2010, 02:55:08 AM
Double Tracking delay......I've always been curious about these and the schematic doesn't look that hard.

Also, this isn't new but the POG seems to always intrigue me. I have schematics for most of current production products as well. Excluding the new memory boys, freeze, etc....just the ones before all the newer clone versions.

POG, HOG, etc. are digital, so not good candidates for PCB projects.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 14, 2010, 12:52:58 PM
Okay... think i've decided... aslong as the other parties involved in the boards agree,
1st We'll do the Zipper as it's simpler and shouldn't take too long to breadboard to verify the schematic is correct.
2nd We'll do the Dlx Octave Multiplexer, due to its need for conversion first before it can even be verified and breadboarded and just the general size of it.

On the side, hopefully DIY projects for the Double Track Delay, Frequency Analyzer & Y-Triggered Can be Arranged, but probably not in fabbed form (although someone else could take them off our hands, i'd happily collaborate in any way I can help).

Cheers for the help everyone!

Edit: And Oh, if anyone finds that Clap Track schematic, pass it on and i'll re-draw it, I wanna give that one a go...
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Strategy on October 14, 2010, 04:00:59 PM
Here's a not free, but not very expensive version of clap track schematic:

http://ronsound.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=11_18 (http://ronsound.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=11_18)

I'm literally not in a position to spend a cent for a couple weeks as I just moved house and am dealing with the expenses associated with that, but life should return to normal after that at which point I'll pick up the schem if no free one has been found.

- Strategy
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 14, 2010, 04:03:12 PM
Quote from: Strategy on October 14, 2010, 04:00:59 PM
Here's a not free, but not very expensive version of clap track schematic:

http://ronsound.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=11_18 (http://ronsound.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=11_18)

I'm literally not in a position to spend a cent for a couple weeks as I just moved house and am dealing with the expenses associated with that, but life should return to normal after that at which point I'll pick up the schem if no free one has been found.

- Strategy
I'm in exactly the same situation myself! (although I can't even move into my new place which is proving expensive too).

I'll keep looking around for it too though.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: azrael on October 14, 2010, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: Jaicen_solo on October 12, 2010, 01:20:52 PM
My vote is for numbers 4 and 11, gotta love those octave pedals!
Same vote for these two!
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Mark Hammer on October 14, 2010, 04:48:17 PM
To your initial list, I will also add the original Polyphase.  If you look around, the posted factory schematics for it are uuuuhhhhhhhggg-LEEEE and desperately in need of a legible redraw.

The Polyphase included a number of features that people are still interested in, including envelope-controlled sweep rate.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Strategy on October 14, 2010, 04:54:36 PM
+1 to Mark's suggestion - I'd forgotten about that one!

A friend of mine has a polyphase which came to us as just an de-boxed pcb with everything attached to it...just wires and knobs hanging off it, etc.- we reboxed it and fixed some broken joints and traces and it works nicely - is one of the coolest phasers I have messed around with. We have not added a CV input but this would be fairly easy to add as a mod on a new version.

The phaser almost as a vocal formant wah filter type sound to it and reacts very interestingly in combination with auto wahs, synth filters, wah sounds, etc. - very "vocal" sounding

- strategy
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 14, 2010, 05:15:34 PM
The Polyphase was on the Vetoe list, for a few reasons...
1) Already a decent project for it here - http://topopiccione.atspace.com/PJ17EHPolyphase.html
2) Finding the right LED/LDRs & Thermistors for it (It says you can use vactrols but they're expensive)
3) Just did a Phaser

Although if necessary I can re-draw the schematic (although it's hardly the worst from EHX!)
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Jaicen_solo on October 14, 2010, 05:19:07 PM
Would that be the BadStone PCB that's hopefully winging it's way to my doorstep?

On another note, I wonder if you've considered doing an EHX Graphic Fuzz? That's certainly a project I could get interested in if you can mount the pots on the board.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 14, 2010, 05:51:57 PM
Quote from: Jaicen_solo on October 14, 2010, 05:19:07 PM
Would that be the BadStone PCB that's hopefully winging it's way to my doorstep?

On another note, I wonder if you've considered doing an EHX Graphic Fuzz? That's certainly a project I could get interested in if you can mount the pots on the board.

It might well be! Even I haven't seen one of these new boards in person yet, looking forward to mine.

I haven't but i'm not sure about that one... I think i'm happy with the Dlx Octave & Zipper for now.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: jaysg on October 14, 2010, 06:54:37 PM
I know this is a tangent, but I'd love a two-sided plated- through-hole board for the BMP that

a) fits in a 125
b) has the space for 1/2W CC resistors and ceramic 1kV caps.

to play with the mojo of the originals, in sensible sized box.   The BYOC and GGG don't have any room for large components.  The BYOC I have, barely fits in a 1590B.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: azrael on October 15, 2010, 01:47:04 PM
Ew, Carbon comp. Why even bother, they don't add to the tone, and are just noisier.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Jaicen_solo on October 15, 2010, 01:49:34 PM
Quote from: jaysg on October 14, 2010, 06:54:37 PM
I know this is a tangent, but I'd love a two-sided plated- through-hole board for the BMP that

a) fits in a 125
b) has the space for 1/2W CC resistors and ceramic 1kV caps.

to play with the mojo of the originals, in sensible sized box.   The BYOC and GGG don't have any room for large components.  The BYOC I have, barely fits in a 1590B.

This is madness, those are the components i'd be looking to eliminate from anything I build! Carbon comp does not add mojo at 9v, just hiss, which is the last thing the BMP needs more of!
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: jaysg on October 16, 2010, 01:59:22 PM
Quote from: Jaicen_solo on October 15, 2010, 01:49:34 PMThis is madness, those are the components i'd be looking to eliminate from anything I build!
Hey!  I resemble that remark  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 16, 2010, 02:11:37 PM
If you're gunna bother with Carbon Comps you may aswell go with the original Layout - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=82634.0
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 17, 2010, 09:35:11 AM
Quote from: Strategy on October 12, 2010, 05:45:03 PM
Handclap machine (forget the exact name though...not clap trap. Clap Track?)

While we're on the subject of the Clap Track... does anyone have the schematics for any of the other battery powered Drum Machines from EHX? http://electroharmonix.vintageusaguitars.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22:the-different-drummer-pt-2&catid=13:electro-harmonix-articles&Itemid=45

I've got the Sonic Boomer (From here - http://topopiccione.atspace.com/PJ09EHSonicBoomer.html ) but none of the others, the Random Tone Generator could be good too, i'm thinking along the lines of a sorta EHX Drum/Noise Kit.

And has anyone tried the EHX Silencer? From the reviews I read on Harmony Central it appears to be a fairly good Noise Gate/Suppressor and the schematic around is pretty damn simple.

Gut shots of any of these units would be appreciated aswell.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: bean on October 17, 2010, 09:51:11 AM
Just to add a little more to Scruffie's amazing initiative here: I already have the vintage DMM well under way. It should be completed within a couple of weeks at most :)
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: puretube on October 17, 2010, 06:52:14 PM
Quote from: Taylor on October 13, 2010, 09:08:31 PM
Is that you, Ton? In a suit with your hair slicked back? So different from the style you are normally rocking!  8)

Since our dutch connection had informed us shortly before the show
that one of the last pure soulmen (http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=87548.0) had just passed away,
(and we`re not in New Orleans), we decided to dress decently in the honour of Mr. Burke who had provided the first song of each "Magictones"-show ("Everybody Needs Somebody"),
and to me not doing the unequalled forward/backward/sideward duckwalk on flip-flops (http://s661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/puretube/MagicTon/?action=view&current=GetReadyF3939.mp4),
like it was shown in a videoclip of an earlier band-anniversary between the sets that eve...
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Strategy on October 28, 2010, 12:39:14 AM
I realize this is a late bump but I was listening to an album the other night that made me remember that EHX had produced a "vocal sounding wah" effect - Talking Pedal

http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/eh/talkingpedal (http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/eh/talkingpedal)

Granted, HIGHLY specialized piece of gear but I'm intrigued. Perhaps there are other wah or filter projects on the forum that really tackle this. Was this added to the EHX revival list?

- Strategy
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Taylor on October 28, 2010, 12:45:29 AM
Quote from: Strategy on October 28, 2010, 12:39:14 AM
I realize this is a late bump but I was listening to an album the other night that made me remember that EHX had produced a "vocal sounding wah" effect - Talking Pedal

http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/eh/talkingpedal (http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/eh/talkingpedal)

Granted, HIGHLY specialized piece of gear but I'm intrigued. Perhaps there are other wah or filter projects on the forum that really tackle this. Was this added to the EHX revival list?

- Strategy

Something similar:
http://www.jiggawoo.eclipse.co.uk/guitarhq/Circuitsnippets/gargletron.gif
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Jaicen_solo on October 28, 2010, 11:49:11 AM
From what I recall, it's just a pair of Twin-T filters, like the bassballs, but swept manually.
Similar in fact to the dipthonizer, though slightly less complex.
If anyone has a project for the talking pedal, i'm interested for sure!
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Strategy on October 28, 2010, 11:51:45 AM
Aha thanks Taylor, I can't believe I'd forgotten about Gargletron! I really WILL have to build EVERY Tim Escobedo effect.

Dipthonizer- I'm not familiar with is that a DIY project or a vintage effect?

Strategy

Quote from: Taylor on October 28, 2010, 12:45:29 AM
Quote from: Strategy on October 28, 2010, 12:39:14 AM
I realize this is a late bump but I was listening to an album the other night that made me remember that EHX had produced a "vocal sounding wah" effect - Talking Pedal

http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/eh/talkingpedal (http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/eh/talkingpedal)

Granted, HIGHLY specialized piece of gear but I'm intrigued. Perhaps there are other wah or filter projects on the forum that really tackle this. Was this added to the EHX revival list?

- Strategy

Something similar:
http://www.jiggawoo.eclipse.co.uk/guitarhq/Circuitsnippets/gargletron.gif
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Jaicen_solo on October 28, 2010, 11:53:16 AM
The Colorsound Dipthonizer is a formant based envelope filter. You can set it to make A E I O U sounds, it really is quite cool.
There's a project for it over on ....com.

Oh, apparently I can't direct you to a website of Stompboxes that are Free. Bizarre.

Anyway, the Talking pedal needs a strange dual pot to offset the sweep. Perhaps you could fudge it with series and parallel resistors, I don't know.
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Scruffie on October 28, 2010, 12:55:23 PM
The choice has been made and Proto boards are on there way  :)

I did know about the talking pedal but decided against it due to the need for a wah enclosure, these projects are really for the average builder (Such as myself) to be able to make... plus if I did go for a Wah enclosure design from EHX, it'd have to be the Queen Wah (which I think would make a nice etchable project if someone did a layout...)
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: Strategy on October 28, 2010, 01:19:21 PM
For the Gargletron I think I'd probably utilize an expression pedal input on a regular old "boxy" enclosure. I have a number of 10k - 20k expression pedals bought 2nd hand including the fancy Moog ones. This seems like a nice way to set up Gargletron for sure. Now the trick is finding a layout that's good amongst the many different ones I found in the forum and now need to sift through.

At some point I intend to create a page or link list of layouts of the Escobedo Circuit Snippets grouped by both project/pedal and layout type (pcb, vero, perf) as well as status of verification and/or noted corrections/mods. There are simply so many options out there in the forum and on the interweb that I feel somewhat overwhelmed, and not really ninja enough to draw my own layouts at this point.

- Strategy

Quote from: Scruffie on October 28, 2010, 12:55:23 PM
The choice has been made and Proto boards are on there way  :)

I did know about the talking pedal but decided against it due to the need for a wah enclosure, these projects are really for the average builder (Such as myself) to be able to make... plus if I did go for a Wah enclosure design from EHX, it'd have to be the Queen Wah (which I think would make a nice etchable project if someone did a layout...)
Title: Re: EHX Revivals & More... Have your say
Post by: nelson on October 31, 2010, 05:37:10 PM
Deluxe octave multiplexer for sure.