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Title: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: Mark Hammer on May 31, 2012, 10:18:50 AM
What for you are the pedal innovations that really impressed you during the last 3 years?  (I picked 3 because it's long enough, yet not too long).

By "innovations", I DO NOT mean a pedal or DIY design that you think sounds great and has a permanent place on your pedalboard.  I don't mean something that sounded outrageous.  I mean something whose feature set, and sonic possibilities made you think "Boy, am I ever glad someone thought of that!  Now I can do so much more, or more than I ever used to be able to do."

That could be a way of switching, features that only digital made possible.  Additional controls that let you fine tune something you had always been forced to adjust in shotgun fashion.  Something that let you be more expressive.  Something that let you integrate more.

Whatever.

It *could* also be new sounds, or a new approach to making them, and not "just a convenience".  I'm deliberately trying to avoid mere noisemakers here.  Different sorts of noise is NOT an innovation IMHO.  Musically valid, yes, but not innovation.  Innovation moves the entire discipline forward, transforms how we approach things.  A tablet computer is an innovation; a tablet that "comes in cool colours", not so much.

So, flip through your mental or actual paper or web-pages, NAMM visits, stage-gazing, etc., reflect...and report.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: Paul Marossy on May 31, 2012, 10:42:40 AM
Relay bypass switching? I know some people are experimenting with it and IIRC there is one line of products currently on the market using relays for the bypass switching.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: Seljer on May 31, 2012, 10:47:29 AM
I'd say that over the past three years people have embraced microcontrollers for LFO control in tremolos and modulation pedals in general. We're finally seeing a plentitude of DIY tap tempo pedals.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: teej212 on May 31, 2012, 10:51:07 AM
im not sure if this fits into your qualifications, but i think boutiquers beginning to delve into DSP and programming is the greatest thing to happen in a long time.  If big companies like Boss and Digitech were the only ones who did stuff like this we would only have plain products, meant to apply to the average consumer.  Since boutiquers like subdecay, earthquaker devices, iron ether, to name a few, have begun using digital control, or signal processing we can get some wild and previously unimaginable sounds, and they do not have to worry as much about pleasing the general consumer, they can be as weird as they want with their designs!  
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: markeebee on May 31, 2012, 11:19:14 AM
Does the Line6 M5 count as innovative?  If so, that.  If not, Burst Box.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: ayayay! on May 31, 2012, 11:27:07 AM
I like what Rick (and subsequently other guys like Renegadrian) and Dano have done with the tube pedals.  Not really innovative, but taking it into new territory.  Meaning experimenting more with the lower voltages, exhausting combinations of circuit design... stuff like that, and making it available in a stompbox.  We've hit opamp and tranny distortions and OD's so much that the tube route was a breath of fresh air, and not just the plain old Ibanez Tube TK999 style. 
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: Paul Marossy on May 31, 2012, 11:27:23 AM
Just saw this the other day, thought it was pretty innovative - http://www.rapcohorizon.com/p-618-ijam.aspx
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: teej212 on May 31, 2012, 11:29:13 AM
another thing i thought of was the tone print type idea- sharing presets and sounds through USB
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: bancika on May 31, 2012, 11:34:52 AM
I like "audio tap" feature on TC delays. While holding the tap button you play something in the desired rhythm and it figures out the tempo. Kinda smart :)
Also thought that auto-bypass on hardwire was cool, it bypasses the pedal when battery level is low.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: teemuk on May 31, 2012, 01:16:33 PM
Doesn't really have much if anything to do with pedals but that Kemper Profiling Amplifier is a very exciting concept.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: Morocotopo on May 31, 2012, 01:30:51 PM
- Polyphonic tuners (not an FX, but...).
- Those EH sitar/freeze/odd noisemakers pedals.
- Super cheap chinese pedals. Like, I can buy one with the change left from the weekly grocery shopping.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: joegagan on May 31, 2012, 01:59:55 PM
facebook.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: geertjacobs on May 31, 2012, 02:12:28 PM
Not really a pedal, but I wish I had bought my Vox Amplug AC30 a lot earlier.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: tiges_ tendres on May 31, 2012, 02:21:56 PM
Quote from: teej212 on May 31, 2012, 11:29:13 AM
another thing i thought of was the tone print type idea- sharing presets and sounds through USB

Even better than that, The TC Electronic pedals can have custom presets changed via iPhone.



Way more convenient than a USB cable.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: LucifersTrip on May 31, 2012, 02:39:15 PM
I'd have to agree with a couple above and say, the more prominent use of microcontrollers and programming...Arduino, etc
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: frequencycentral on May 31, 2012, 02:39:23 PM
Various incarnations of PT2399 for other-than-straight-delay abuse.  ;D
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: earthtonesaudio on May 31, 2012, 02:42:01 PM
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: Mark Hammer on May 31, 2012, 03:45:34 PM
All interesting and thought-provoking.  Keep 'em coming, folks.

I haven't used all of them them so I can't comment with any authority, but I THINK I like the way that Strymon, Line 6, EHX (and I think TC and Eventide, though I might be mistaken) have incorporated controls whose function depends on the mode you're in.  I like having knobs to twiddle, but I also like a relatively clean and uncluttered panel that leaves room for my fingers, without resulting in a footprint the size of a dinner tray.

And I think I like the manner in which pedalboard technology has evolved towards more integrated, yet still open-ended, systems.  You can stick a wad of stuff on them, with appropriate power for everything, and a convenient "switching station" up front that lets you stick stuff where it fits rather than where it has to go in order to be able to easily step on it.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: Morocotopo on May 31, 2012, 04:22:19 PM
Now that I think more about it, the most promising development I saw was that thing that could load VST plugins in a pedalboard format. The nice thing is that it separated the hard from the soft finally. So you could get garden variety FX from big companies and esoteric stuff from two guys with a PC and lots of time and imagination. Imagine using the GRM plugins live on your guitar!!! Über cool.
But I velieve it didn´t catch on. Too bad.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: Electron Tornado on May 31, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
Also agree with the mention of Adruino. I recall someone utilized it for switching or looping control. I think there has also been discussion of using it to change effects pedal settings using electronically adjustable pots.

EH's new wah pedal is kind of interesting - rocker pedal, no treadle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZMA79WvqmE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZMA79WvqmE)

Mark, not to hijack the thread, but could we also allow discussion of innovations in tools and processes for development and construction of pedals?
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: electrosonic on May 31, 2012, 05:12:41 PM
The growing number of small run pcb services -dorkbot, batchpcb etc, paired with the increasing popularity of Eagle (and others forgive my bias), allowing diy'ers to create profession looking boards.

Andrew.

Title: Re: Sv: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: Perrow on May 31, 2012, 05:36:28 PM
They've been mentioned, but the 2399 and the low voltage tube projects are really exciting. I still wait for an audio centric microcontroller, AD + DA + a bunch of ram combined with enough processor power. Then the DIY digital audio will really take off.
Title: Re: Innovations of note over the last 3 years
Post by: Mark Hammer on May 31, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: Electron Tornado on May 31, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
Mark, not to hijack the thread, but could we also allow discussion of innovations in tools and processes for development and construction of pedals?
Hijack away, my friend.  AFAIC, if its something that moves the field ahead, then it counts fair and square.  Clearly Electrosonic thinks that way too, by his mention of small-run PCB fabrication.

I also agree with others that the PT2399 has made an enormous number of interesting things possible for peanuts.  I find it amazing that a chip one can get for under a buck will do a great deal of what my old MXR Digital Delay does for a teeny fraction of the cost and size...and with more fidelity and delay time to boot.

I don't know if it qualifies as an "innovation", but the presence of tiny (9mm) PC-mount pots, and those delicious narrow profile Davies knobs that Steve Daniels had resurrected have made it possible for analog devotees to squish a crazy number of controls in a small footprint.

And of course, many people would probably agree that the various Molten Voltage chips that permit easily implemented tap-tempo, etc., have been very helpful.