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Title: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 15, 2012, 02:31:40 PM
HERE WE GO AGAIN!!

Ok forumites... its time for another build competition.

This competition is brought to you by Digi2t (judge), pinkjimiphoton (judge), Aron, Steve (smallbear), and myself (judge) of course  ;)

So.... lets get to the nitty gritty shall we!

RULES:

1)   Builds do not need to be themed. Just good quality builds.
2)   NO pre-fabbed circuit boards allowed. Self-etched PCBs, Vero, or tag board only.
3)   Competition is open to hobby builders only. NO commercial or production builders.
4)   Multi-board builds MUST contribute an entry fee for EACH board. The ONLY exceptions to this are charge pumps, 3PDT boards, and millennium bypass circuits.
5)   Circuit layouts DO NOT have to be your own. You may use circuits that are already out there however, more consideration will be given to custom layouts. Bonus judging points given to those who provide their custom layouts WITH their submission. Builders who use a layout for their build MUST give credit to the original layout designer. (if known)
6)   Enclosures can be etched, painted, laser engraved, etc. More consideration will be given to more "creative" esthetic efforts. A "good" etch is not as good as a "great" paint job.
7)   Difficulty of the build as well as clean wiring will be judging criteria.
8]   This competition is for through-hole analog builds only. No DSP, SMD, or Tube builds. This makes the competition accessible and win-able to everyone!
9)   Entries WILL provide evidence of a WORKING pedal! Pictures and gut shots are MANDATORY! Must include a video of the pedal in action. Video submissions must show clean guitar through amp, followed by ONLY the built pedal (with NO delay, reverb, etc.) then followed by the built pedal with ANY other effect to make your build unique. We will be judging heavily on the finished product!!! This is your chance to make it stand out!! Be creative but, do it in the order stated please.
10)   Entries MUST BE completed builds. Incomplete or non-working builds will not be considered.
11)   This competition is for NEW or UNSEEN builds only! The whole idea behind this competition is to encourage creativity and to share ideas on the forum. Please do not enter other "competition winner" or previously entered or pictured builds. If you have a killer build that has not been revealed yet, then I guess it's your lucky day! Otherwise, please come up with something original for this competition.

PRIZES:

Prizes will be awarded in order of ranking. Basically, when all of the entries are judged, they will be given a final score. The 5 highest scores will be deemed the winners. The winner with the highest score will have his/her choice of prizes from the pool. When that person chooses then the next highest scoring winner will have their choice of the remaining prizes, and so on until the final winner (5th place) will receive the remaining prize.

Prize#1 - $25 in credit to Smallbear electronics w/ free shipping. Courtesy of Smallbear electronics.
Prize#2 – Custom Vocalizer pedal build shipped to winner. Courtesy of Digi2t.
Prize#3 – Custom Digitech XP ALL (XP 100, 200, 300, and 400 in one box! And you don't have to power it down to switch effects!!!) Shipped to winner. Courtesy of Govmnt_Lacky.
Prize#4 – Custom "Stupid Pedal Tricks" Pedal shipped to winner. Courtesy of pinkjimiphoton. Video soon to come!!!
Prize#5 – Store credit to DIYStomp store in the amount of the entry fees (minus shipping costs). Courtesy of the entrants and Aron.
Prize#6 - - A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs/ shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post (Courtesy of Jacob at JMK PCBs)
ALL OF THE 5 WINNERS WILL RECEIVE A LARGE (Sorry folks... Large is the ONLY size available) DIYSTOMPBOXES T-SHIRT COURTESY OF ARON AND DIYSTOMPBOXES.COM.

STIPULATIONS:

- Any winner outside of the continental US or Canada WILL BE responsible for shipping fees, taxes, or VATs that are above and/or beyond the regular shipping rate.
- MUST HAVE A MINIMUM OF 15 ENTRIES BEFORE COMPETITION BEGINS!!
- Entry Fee is $10/per board in accordance to the rules above.

OTHER STUFF:

- Remember, this competition is for the benefit of developing creativity on the forum AND to help fund the forum/store. NONE of the judges will be receiving ANY reimbursement from this contest. It was OUR intent to do it this way and ultimately we hope it will convince YOU forumites to pick up the torch and run with it  ;D
- The DEADLINE for complete submissions will be 23:59 on Thanksgiving Day (November 22nd 2012). You can submit your entry as early as you like. Just remember to make sure it is COMPLETE and according to the rules set forth above.
- ALL submissions WILL be posted on THIS thread. DO NOT post submissions on the Pictures thread BEFORE posting them here! You may do so AFTER posting them on here if you like.
- We will be relying on you forumites to assist us with policing this effort. We want to keep the field as level as possible. It only takes one rotten apple to spoil the barrel!

Any questions that are directly related to the competition, rules, prizes, etc. should be posted here for other forumites to benefit. PLEASE DO NOT SEND PMs FOR COMPETITION QUESTIONS TO ANY OF THE JUDGES! Post them here and one of the judges will answer as soon as possible.

Finally, remember to tell others about this! The more people involved... the higher the Store Credit Prize will be!  :icon_twisted:

Here is the link to pay for your entries. Be sure to let Aron know EXACTLY what you are paying for (if entering multi-board builds):

http://diystompboxes.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=89

GOOD LUCK TO ALL. HOPING TO SEE SOME CREATIVE BUILDS!!!!!



Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 15, 2012, 03:21:45 PM
Thanks-I like the rules.  I hold an airgun "turkey shoot" every year at Thanksgiving for the folks that work for me. I award the prizes the same way by letting them choose their prize starting with1st place. Should be another great contest!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on September 15, 2012, 03:54:12 PM
Thanks Gov and all of the guys running this, I'm in!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 15, 2012, 05:13:47 PM
we're really looking forward to seeing what the great people on this forum come up with...so let the games commence!  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: rockhorst on September 15, 2012, 05:20:09 PM
Strange that a Millenium bypass board is no extra fee, but a 3PDT is...just IMHO
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on September 15, 2012, 05:41:41 PM
 ''A "good" etch is not as good as a "great" paint job.''

:icon_eek: well thats me out then... :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 15, 2012, 05:48:55 PM
Quote from: rockhorst on September 15, 2012, 05:20:09 PM
Strange that a Millenium bypass board is no extra fee, but a 3PDT is...just IMHO

a 3pdt board is fine...daughterboards if necessary aren't the issue.

there is a fee per CIRCUIT...if you have three fuzz boards in a box, that would be three boards.
millenium bypass, 3pdt, charge pump boards do not count as circuits.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 15, 2012, 06:02:12 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 15, 2012, 05:48:55 PM
Quote from: rockhorst on September 15, 2012, 05:20:09 PM
Strange that a Millenium bypass board is no extra fee, but a 3PDT is...just IMHO

a 3pdt board is fine...daughterboards if necessary aren't the issue.

there is a fee per CIRCUIT...if you have three fuzz boards in a box, that would be three boards.
millenium bypass, 3pdt, charge pump boards do not count as circuits.

Thanks Jimi.  In addition though, shouldn't all boards be DIY etch, vero, or otherwise  constructed by the builder, including these daughter boards?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 15, 2012, 06:08:42 PM
Quote from: deadastronaut on September 15, 2012, 05:41:41 PM
''A "good" etch is not as good as a "great" paint job.''

:icon_eek: well thats me out then... :)

Rob- I saw that too, but I think he meant that etching and painting are equivalent techniques. In other words, the judges will be looking at the quality of the graphics without preference to the technique used. No bonus points for any particular technique. What counts is the asthetic results.  Do I hear an amen?
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 15, 2012, 06:33:22 PM
This sounds great, I fear the video proof will finally out me as a non musician or can I find someone who can play it for me?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: artifus on September 15, 2012, 06:52:30 PM
yes. send me all your pedals. my address is 14... nah! i can't even play but i do have a camera....  :P
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 15, 2012, 09:01:08 PM
To clarify a few points that have been brought up:

1) a 3PDT board IS acceptable. As Jimi stated above, if you want to enter the contest with a TS/Boost/Noise Gate/Compressor/blah blah pedal, then you will need to pay an entry fee for each CIRCUIT. If you feel you can blow away the competition with a complex Fuzz circuit that has a pre-boost on it (like an LPB type circuit) and it sounds like the voice of the lord to you, then by all mean ENTER IT. It will just mean that you will need to pay 2 entry fees. We want this to be available to ALL forum mebers. Even the members that are just starting and want to give it a try  ;D EDIT: Amended the rules above.

2) As for etching your own 3PDT, millenium, or charge pump boards. I really don't think we need to go THAT DIY about it. As long as your ENTRY circuit is fabricated in the manner stated above, then it will be fine. Of course, it might catch the judges eye when they see an etched 3PDT board -OR- a vero'd millenium bypass  :icon_cool:

3) JDansti hit the nail on the head. We will NOT favor any finishing technique over another. The statement about a "good etch is not as good as a great paint job" means simply that. If 2 people enter pedals and they both sound fantastic yet one has a great paint job and the other has an OK etch, then the pedal with the great paint job will probably score higher. It was meant to say that since you etched your pedal, it does not automatically mean you trump anyone who used paint, laser, etc.'

4) @ Perrow - We don't care WHO demos your build. As long as it is in the manner stated above and you let us know it's your build. If you can get Steve Vai to play.... you might get more consideration  ;)  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 15, 2012, 09:56:46 PM
@deadastronaut -

Quote''A "good" etch is not as good as a "great" paint job.''

well thats me out then...

I can't speak for Greg or Jimi, but as far as I'm concerned, one can be used to compensate for the other. I believe that's the spirit of the statement. The external might be OK, but the guts can really shine, or vice versa. I'm taking everything into consideration, so I can understand that one may opt to lose a few points in one aspect of their creation, to pile on a few more somewhere else.

Hope that clears it up for you.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 16, 2012, 12:59:50 AM
Been jobbing all month, and weirdly enough, a lot of it has been Turkish music. Which means I might be able to buy some components! I'm in! (once the checks clear)

musical hero of mine, Necdet Yaşar:

Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 16, 2012, 02:28:25 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 15, 2012, 09:01:08 PMIf you can get Steve Vai to play.... you might get more consideration  ;)  :icon_lol:

I'll call him :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 16, 2012, 03:22:43 AM
Quote from: garcho on September 16, 2012, 12:59:50 AM
Been jobbing all month, and weirdly enough, a lot of it has been Turkish music. Which means I might be able to buy some components! I'm in! (once the checks clear)

musical hero of mine, Necdet Yaşar:


I didn't know that like Turkish music!  What do you call that axe he's playing?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 16, 2012, 03:48:30 AM
QuoteWhat do you call that axe he's playing?

Tambur (Tanbur) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tambur).

I played one this evening actually, at a gig here in Chicago. It's the most important instrument in Ottoman 'court' or 'classical' music, after the voice, of course. Much less popular now that the modern nation-state has put a distance between itself and the Ottoman Empire. It wasn't ever a 'folk' instrument, although it's based on one some Turks might call a 'bağlama' or 'saz', which is very popular in Turkey today, as is guitar. Guitars can't play the microtones in Turkish tunings, though, so most folk and art musicians still play the traditional instruments. Most Turks I've heard say the word say 'tanbur', with an 'n'. It's not related to the Hindustani drone instrument of a similar name.

My pedal for the contest entry is going to be a switchable parallel/series dual tunable band pass filter, with 2 simple LFOs. Basically, ripping off many of the more well known folks here at the forum, as well as a guy with a funny name that writes books for a place called Radio Shack.  ;) Don't worry, I'll give credit to the right people! (if it works  :P) I've been failing at putting together a decent, non-massively huge, single-sided PCB for the MS-20 project a few of us are keeping up with, so I thought this would be a more manageable endeavor for me. Hopefully, it'll make some mighty fine filter/gobble noises for Turkey day.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 16, 2012, 05:34:05 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 15, 2012, 02:31:40 PM
4) Multi-board builds MUST contribute an entry fee for EACH board. The ONLY exceptions to this are charge pumps, 3PDT boards, and millennium bypass circuits.

Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 15, 2012, 09:01:08 PM
To clarify a few points that have been brought up:

1) a 3PDT board IS acceptable. As Jimi stated above, if you want to enter the contest with a TS/Boost/Noise Gate/Compressor/blah blah pedal, then you will need to pay an entry fee for each CIRCUIT. If you feel you can blow away the competition with a complex Fuzz circuit that has a pre-boost on it (like an LPB type circuit) and it sounds like the voice of the lord to you, then by all mean ENTER IT. It will just mean that you will need to pay 2 entry fees. We want this to be available to ALL forum mebers. Even the members that are just starting and want to give it a try  ;D

Just wondering what is the intent of the one entry fee per board/circuit rule?

I can see the rules are aiming for a level playing field for hobby builders, which is great, but I can't understand the reason for this particular rule.

For example, if a circuit uses a LPB into a fuzz circuit then into a AMZ buffer, and all the parts were on the same layout, (i.e. on the same board), and the whole effect could only be on or off (as opposed to sections of the circuit being switchable), shouldn't that be just one entry fee?

I think there could be a lot of grey areas with this rule, like if you have a TS front-end with a Crunch Box rear end and a FMV tone control, is that one/two/three entry fees? Can you see where I'm going with this, what if someone says the circuit of one of the winners is a combination of X plus Y and he only paid one entry fee? What happens then? Many circuits are a collection of building blocks...

Any chance of some detailed clarification for nitwits like me? Some of my confusion stems from the fact you can put 2 circuits on 1 board, or use 2 boards to make 1 circuit (e.g. a tone control circuit pcb with mounted pots which is seperate from the main pcb).
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 16, 2012, 05:52:45 AM
Just to confuse everyone I'm gonna put each component of my English Channel build on a separate board, how much is the entry fee?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 16, 2012, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: Ronan on September 16, 2012, 05:34:05 AM
Just wondering what is the intent of the one entry fee per board/circuit rule?

I can see the rules are aiming for a level playing field for hobby builders, which is great, but I can't understand the reason for this particular rule.

For example, if a circuit uses a LPB into a fuzz circuit then into a AMZ buffer, and all the parts were on the same layout, (i.e. on the same board), and the whole effect could only be on or off (as opposed to sections of the circuit being switchable), shouldn't that be just one entry fee?

I think there could be a lot of grey areas with this rule, like if you have a TS front-end with a Crunch Box rear end and a FMV tone control, is that one/two/three entry fees? Can you see where I'm going with this, what if someone says the circuit of one of the winners is a combination of X plus Y and he only paid one entry fee? What happens then? Many circuits are a collection of building blocks...

Any chance of some detailed clarification for nitwits like me? Some of my confusion stems from the fact you can put 2 circuits on 1 board, or use 2 boards to make 1 circuit (e.g. a tone control circuit pcb with mounted pots which is seperate from the main pcb).


Thanks for asking. Hopefully this will clarify the rule.

Look at this link for an example:

http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/pdf/two_in_one_wiring.pdf

This is a good example of an entry that would require 2 fees. There are 2 seperate circuits in the box. Whether it be 2 tubescreamers, a tubescreamer and a boost, etc.

2 SEPERATE CIRCUITS = 2 ENTRY FEES.

The reasoning for this "rule" is to keep the entrys simple, effective, and to keep it available to even the novice builders.

If you incorporate a boost into an overdrive and IT IS ON THE SAME BOARD then there should not be a problem.

Hope this helps. We really want to see a good turn out for this.

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 16, 2012, 12:17:08 PM
Quote from: Ronan on September 16, 2012, 05:34:05 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 15, 2012, 02:31:40 PM
4) Multi-board builds MUST contribute an entry fee for EACH board. The ONLY exceptions to this are charge pumps, 3PDT boards, and millennium bypass circuits.

Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 15, 2012, 09:01:08 PM
To clarify a few points that have been brought up:

1) a 3PDT board IS acceptable. As Jimi stated above, if you want to enter the contest with a TS/Boost/Noise Gate/Compressor/blah blah pedal, then you will need to pay an entry fee for each CIRCUIT. If you feel you can blow away the competition with a complex Fuzz circuit that has a pre-boost on it (like an LPB type circuit) and it sounds like the voice of the lord to you, then by all mean ENTER IT. It will just mean that you will need to pay 2 entry fees. We want this to be available to ALL forum mebers. Even the members that are just starting and want to give it a try  ;D

Just wondering what is the intent of the one entry fee per board/circuit rule?

I can see the rules are aiming for a level playing field for hobby builders, which is great, but I can't understand the reason for this particular rule.

For example, if a circuit uses a LPB into a fuzz circuit then into a AMZ buffer, and all the parts were on the same layout, (i.e. on the same board), and the whole effect could only be on or off (as opposed to sections of the circuit being switchable), shouldn't that be just one entry fee?

I think there could be a lot of grey areas with this rule, like if you have a TS front-end with a Crunch Box rear end and a FMV tone control, is that one/two/three entry fees? Can you see where I'm going with this, what if someone says the circuit of one of the winners is a combination of X plus Y and he only paid one entry fee? What happens then? Many circuits are a collection of building blocks...

Any chance of some detailed clarification for nitwits like me? Some of my confusion stems from the fact you can put 2 circuits on 1 board, or use 2 boards to make 1 circuit (e.g. a tone control circuit pcb with mounted pots which is seperate from the main pcb).


let's make it easier. we encourage people to make the circuit as one contiguous board. if you want to combine tubescreamers, fuzz, lpb1, phazer, echo and tone suck all on one board as one continuous circuit, well, that would be impressive on say more levels than having each effect daisy chained on separate boards if you get my drift.

if you choose to combine a couple effects on separate boards, well...then it's single entry fee per board x number of boards = entry fee total.

so if you etch/vero/perf one board with everything on it, you will score higher possibly and only pay ONE board entry fee.

as to where the money goes, well, look at the rules where it states what the prizes are bros.

we three judges are contributing and shipping (at our own expense minus tax/tarriff's/VAT etc) with no recompense other than the fun of watching you guys sweat.
and digging the fruits of your labors!
it's a way to help bring the community together, and have some fun... and watch the mother of invention do her work.

so...we clear now?

circuit plus led/mill bypass/3pdt/chargepump etc = 1 entry fee.

circuit plus circuit ad nauseum = total number of circuits x entry fee.

no, an lpb1 is NOT a support board. ;)

further...we're all gadget addicts, we're all equal here...so no worries please about musicianship, that aspect will not be judged.


if you get steve vai....i agree, that may be interesting.

or you can send all your submissions to me, for episodes of stupid pedal tricks..

just kidding, i am out of this .... we want to hear  YOU
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: krister on September 16, 2012, 03:06:28 PM
Sounds like a cool competition.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 16, 2012, 03:57:07 PM
Thank you for clarifying those points Jimi!!  ;D

Furthermore, to address some issues with the restriction on commercial/production builders, I refer you all to the following:

- a commercial builder is one who makes pedals expressly for sale.
- a commercial builder is not one who builds pedals, and occasionally sells one-offs.
- a commercial builder is one who builds pedals expressly to seek profit.
- if one is seeking profit, they are a business, even if they build for pleasure as well.
- if they are a business, they are a commercial builder and cannot enter the competition.

Although this may seem unfair to some of the forumites here, believe me when I say that it was the judges intent to keep a level playing field for ALL of the forum members. We were even thinking about the member that signed up TODAY and would like to enter. We want to eliminate the fear of creating a great build only to be totally smashed by a forum member that builds pedals as a business.

If another forum member or members would like to open their contest to production builders (and we really would like to see the competitions continue!!) then that is great too. In the mean time, we would like to see some great builds.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 16, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
What if I sell them to pay for my hobby. It's nonprofit but I do have a logo. It pays for all the tayda orders. I hope I'm not blurring the rule for you  :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 16, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 16, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
What if I sell them to pay for my hobby. It's nonprofit but I do have a logo. It pays for all the tayda orders. I hope I'm not blurring the rule for you  :icon_confused:

"- a commercial builder is not one who builds pedals, and occasionally sells one-offs."
"- a commercial builder is one who builds pedals expressly to seek profit."

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 16, 2012, 04:43:50 PM
ahh, sorry. i didnt read it clearly. im doped up from some dental work :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 16, 2012, 04:58:38 PM
hey mike, if you're selling builds to get parts to make more, that's not commercial.

if you can afford a lexus on the pedals you build, you definitely are commercial.
;)

perhaps in a future competition, we can allow commercial builders, but ONLY if the builds are submitted to the world as "freeware" that anyone can build using
commonly available parts that will not be used as commercial pedals..

but that's a big perhaps.  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 16, 2012, 05:30:52 PM
Hmmm... I think by the time Thanksgiving rolls around, we'll have the rules clarified too. That, and a buttload of jokes to go along with it.

As for Steve Vai demoing your pedal, crap, I think I would throw in an extra prize to anyone that could pull THAT off. Authentication would present a problem though  :icon_mrgreen:

Best of luck to all the prospective participants!

Cheers,
Dino
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 16, 2012, 06:32:29 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 16, 2012, 04:43:50 PM
ahh, sorry. i didnt read it clearly. im doped up from some dental work :icon_eek:

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 16, 2012, 10:18:10 PM
priceless...

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Beo on September 17, 2012, 03:31:59 AM
You know, I'd like to enter this contest, but I'm a little hesitant. The organizers have done a good job telling us what is not allowed, and I like a lot of the restrictions (especially since I have a full time non-pedal job, restricting commercial builders is a huge plus for me). Granted, I have recently learned how to program AVRs, so the restriction on digital gimmicks limits some of the things I'm thinking about. What I don't see is a scoring system on how pedals will be evaluated. Is innovation the most important, aesthetics and artistry, etc. How with multiple judges are opinions consolidated? In the end, I don't necessarily need to know how the judging will be scored, but I just need to know that the scoring will be organized, and I'm not going into this competition with a concept that is doomed from the start. This is a tough question which the judges will be reluctant to answer, cause I'm sure they want to leave the creative side as open as possible. It's enter at your own risk, and with that in mind, I'll save my multi-effects ideas for another competition, as I won't pay multiple entry fees for a single shot in the dark.

Travis
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on September 17, 2012, 04:37:17 AM
ok, gotcha!.. ;)

so no painting or etching or solder or wires or switches or enclosures or components and if i make more than £0.76p per annum but less tha £0.12p i'm a commercial builder.....sounds good, but its gonna be tough, .. ;D ;) :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 17, 2012, 05:28:14 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on September 17, 2012, 04:37:17 AM
more than £0.76p per annum but less tha £0.12p

It's been a while since I studied math, but it feels like those boundaries leaves a quite small gap  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on September 17, 2012, 05:42:50 AM
it certainly does, especially with the global financial crisis in my wallet....i'll have to call a summit of world leaders in my gaff i think.. :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 17, 2012, 06:13:51 AM
I got the impression in the last comp, you were doomed if you didn't do an etched enclosure.

Get your priorities right DA, you gotta eat first, then build pedals second, OK?
The world leaders will not help you.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 17, 2012, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on September 17, 2012, 04:37:17 AM
ok, gotcha!.. ;)

so no painting or etching or solder or wires or switches or enclosures or components and if i make more than £0.76p per annum but less tha £0.12p i'm a commercial builder.....sounds good, but its gonna be tough, .. ;D ;) :icon_mrgreen:

See United Nations "Pedal Contest Rules, Regulations, and Corporal Punishment Penalties" manual #UN7294735292073637663V.

Kidding aside, the judges are trying accomplish a few things with the rules:
1) Narrow the entry specs so that they can compare "apples to apples". While the last contest was fun, the entries ranged from classic analog effects to sophisticated digital effects to multiFX toilet seats.
2) Since each effect of a multiFx entry is treated like a separate entry, a multiFX entry doesn't have an advantage over a single FX entry.
3) Allow amateurs/non-pros to compete just against each other.

I appreciate what the judges are trying to do. At the same time, it's difficult to write perfectly clear rules that leave no questions.

I think that it would be fun to have future contests with different rules. For example, all digital, all mutiFX, only fuzzes, only 1590A enclosures, etc.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on September 17, 2012, 11:24:26 AM


''I think that it would be fun to have future contests with different rules. For example, all digital, all mutiFX, only fuzzes, only 1590A enclosures, etc. ''



yep a more level playing field!!!..good idea!. 8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: bluebunny on September 17, 2012, 12:10:04 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 16, 2012, 04:58:38 PM
if you can afford a lexus on the pedals you build, you definitely are commercial.
;)

What if I sell my Lexus to fund the parts to build this pedal?   ;D

(Ha ha, in another universe perhaps...  :icon_wink:)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 17, 2012, 12:27:33 PM
lol...you guys are killing us!!

here's the bottom line...

number one?

it has to sound good.

what it looks like is of LESS consequence. if the wiring's a rat's nest, and the pedal is in a radio shack box ( :icon_eek: ) it may well score higher than a brilliantly executed
box that folds up into a postage stamp with wiring so exquisite after seeing it we need to visit the bathroom for the "wood-b-gone" if it SOUNDS BETTER.

we three judges are pretty open to different areas, and different sounds, and have a vast plethora of effectuals to choose from. we like to pretend we're pretty eclectic.

(look it up, there's greg, dino and me, right there).

we're trying to level the playing field, and make it fair for everyone. putting seasoned commercial builders up against total beginners and making it so all have a chance is ludicrous.

making people compete within fair guidelines for everyone however is a different story.

hope that clarifies some muddy water a little. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 17, 2012, 01:46:45 PM
There should be a prize for most transformed enclosure ;D    I would totally win that :icon_twisted:   I'm making some good progress, I keep having to remind myself to slow down and that i have over a month and a half to get it done. I'm super psyched about this comp and cant wait for judging day.

Mind if i ask how many entries so far?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 18, 2012, 05:00:59 AM
I made a start today, made up a cardboard mockup of the enclosure, and bent up some sheet aluminum. The circuit will be a simpler variation of an existing mild dirt box. I hope it will sound ok. I sense impending disaster, but will continue on regardless, as I usually do  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on September 18, 2012, 05:26:33 AM


making your own alooooooominum box... :icon_eek: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 18, 2012, 05:40:24 AM
I've been wanting to make my own enclosure for a lil while now but i went to the hardware store today and a 12'' x 24'' sheet of diamond plate cost 36 USD :o
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 18, 2012, 06:20:13 AM
Don't worry, I'm not a sheet metal person, its just a radio shack type of box, cause Jimi the Judge said no loss of points for radioshack type enclosures, didn't ya Jimi. My biggest concern is etching a pcb, I don't like etching pcb's, wondering if the judges will let my mate etch the pcb for me perhaps, but I reckon I would have to forego some judging points for that. Still, I might be able to make it up in other areas....maybe... :)

DA, yes, aloooominum, you are such a stirrer, are ya going to put something in for this one, I am guessing yes? With a brilliantly etched enclosure to boot too I would guess.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 18, 2012, 07:34:22 AM
Just a little tip for those of you itching to bend up your own enclosures, but have never done so. Please do a bit of research on calculating offset (AKA bend allowance) when bending sheet metal. As haveyouseenhim points out, aluminium can be rather pricey, and there is nothing more fustrating than bending a piece, only to find that you've come up over/under, and it doesn't fit. Simple little calculator may be found here; http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/bend_allowance_pop.htm (http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/bend_allowance_pop.htm) , there are several others available on the net. Learn to do the math... or buy lots of metal.

Also, for the more serious amoung you, may I recommend a pair of Cleco pliers (5 - 6 dollars);
(http://lghttp.16203.nexcesscdn.net/80802D/panam/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/447x228/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/3/13_product_cleco-pliers-with-soft-handle_1.jpg)

and few Cleco's (about .40$ each for 3/32");
(http://lghttp.16203.nexcesscdn.net/80802D/panam/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/447x228/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/0/2/02_product_p-series.jpg)

These are the cat's a$$ where assembly is concerned, allow one to drill small holes to temporarily assemble a structure, and hold it together tightly before/during drilling the final holes. For an enclosure, the smallest Cleco (3/32") would be fine, allowing you to easily drill and tap for a 10/32 screw. Allows one to fine tune the fit and finish of the enclosure before final drilling as well. They're great for doing bodywork as well, anywhere where sheetmetal assembly is involved really.

A little aviation application, for the common man  :icon_wink:.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 18, 2012, 09:30:15 AM
Ok folks, I guess there is a bit of a problem with comprehension and understanding of the rules.

If you have a questions about them, by all means please post your question. In the mean time, the rules are the rules. They are set up ( once again) to enable this competition to be accessable to everyone.

We do not feel that they are overly complex or as restrictive as people are commenting about. They are there to help keep things on an even keel.

Bottom line, if you want to enter and have questions about the rules or need them clarified.... don't be afraid to ask. Otherwise, don't slam a competition that is in place for the sole purpose of promoting creativity and offering prizes ( solely out of the pocket of the prize providers) there is no hidden agenda here and we just want people to enjoy the competition.

I hope that clears up what we are trying to do!!!  ;D

NOW... Let's get some entries and get some great builds going!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 18, 2012, 10:22:32 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 18, 2012, 09:30:15 AM
Ok folks, I guess there is a bit of a problem with comprehension and understanding of the rules.

If you have a questions about them, by all means please post your question. In the mean time, the rules are the rules. They are set up ( once again) to enable this competition to be accessable to everyone.

We do not feel that they are overly complex or as restrictive as people are commenting about. They are there to help keep things on an even keel.

Bottom line, if you want to enter and have questions about the rules or need them clarified.... don't be afraid to ask. Otherwise, don't slam a competition that is in place for the sole purpose of promoting creativity and offering prizes ( solely out of the pocket of the prize providers) there is no hidden agenda here and we just want people to enjoy the competition.

I hope that clears up what we are trying to do!!!  ;D

NOW... Let's get some entries and get some great builds going!!!  ;)

AMEN!!  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on September 18, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Quote from: Ronan on September 18, 2012, 06:20:13 AM


DA, yes, aloooominum, you are such a stirrer, are ya going to put something in for this one, I am guessing yes? With a brilliantly etched enclosure to boot too I would guess.

;D ;)...if i ever get it off my breadboard i will.

@greg:  AMEN too.. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 11:12:44 AM
yes i did say simple enclosures are fine. but remember.,..aesthetics are still/always a part of the judgement.

the whole package...circuit, tone, appearance, mojo... those are all clues for we judges as to what's what.

that said, a friend etching a board isn't a big deal.

a commercial etching, however IS a big deal, so no, you can't use GGG/mammoth/guitarpcb/madbean/etc etc etc boards.

not this time out, sorry...and i mean no disrespect to any of the above mentioned vendors, who i do indeed buy boards from myself from time to time.

this is a DIY shootout.

as Greg and Dino have said, the rules are the rules.

instead of trying to pick them apart, and make our jobs harder, please work within the parameters provided.

if legitimate issues come up, by all means voice them to us so we can address them and try to find a fair solution within the rules of the game.

thanks guys...

now, c'mon, blow our minds...

i wanna see that vero'd synthi hi-flyer!!! ;) :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: cloudscapes on September 18, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
no prefabbed boards makes it hard for those of us who want to use fine-pitch SMD and solder masks  :-[
the rule still applies if you're the one designing the board?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 11:21:31 AM
ALSO...

yesterday i built up the circuit board for the prize i will be giving, one point - to point fuzzface, the variant we call "the sterno face" here as it is created and tweaked
for local guitarist bob stern of the drivetime party band.

it will be an NPN silicon fuzzface, with true bypassing, higher output than normal (fuzz faces are generally slightly below unity gain) in a trusty rat shack box. it will accept normal center - wall warts.


(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/550570_4231708323869_1305332117_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 11:25:44 AM
Quote from: cloudscapes on September 18, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
no prefabbed boards makes it hard for those of us who want to use fine-pitch SMD and solder masks  :-[
it was fine for the last one...

YOU NEED TO READ THE RULES. ;)


RULES:

1)   Builds do not need to be themed. Just good quality builds.
2)   NO pre-fabbed circuit boards allowed. Self-etched PCBs, Vero, or tag board only.
3)   Competition is open to hobby builders only. NO commercial or production builders.
4)   Multi-board builds MUST contribute an entry fee for EACH board. The ONLY exceptions to this are charge pumps, 3PDT boards, and millennium bypass circuits.
5)   Circuit layouts DO NOT have to be your own. You may use circuits that are already out there however, more consideration will be given to custom layouts. Bonus judging points given to those who provide their custom layouts WITH their submission. Builders who use a layout for their build MUST give credit to the original layout designer. (if known)
6)   Enclosures can be etched, painted, laser engraved, etc. More consideration will be given to more "creative" esthetic efforts. A "good" etch is not as good as a "great" paint job.
7)   Difficulty of the build as well as clean wiring will be judging criteria.
8]   This competition is for through-hole analog builds only. No DSP, SMD, or Tube builds. This makes the competition accessible and win-able to everyone!
9)   Entries WILL provide evidence of a WORKING pedal! Pictures and gut shots are MANDATORY! Must include a video of the pedal in action. Video submissions must show clean guitar through amp, followed by ONLY the built pedal (with NO delay, reverb, etc.) then followed by the built pedal with ANY other effect to make your build unique. We will be judging heavily on the finished product!!! This is your chance to make it stand out!! Be creative but, do it in the order stated please.
10)   Entries MUST BE completed builds. Incomplete or non-working builds will not be considered.
11)   This competition is for NEW or UNSEEN builds only! The whole idea behind this competition is to encourage creativity and to share ideas on the forum. Please do not enter other "competition winner" or previously entered or pictured builds. If you have a killer build that has not been revealed yet, then I guess it's your lucky day! Otherwise, please come up with something original for this competition.


smt/tubes etc are not valid entries. this is for thru-hole entries only.

this is NOT the last competition, and is designed to level the playing field for the beginners to have a chance too.

perhaps in another competition, but in this one, it clearly states in the rules, NO SMD.

did you read the rules?

and yes, no commercially produced boards. vero, perfboard, tagboard, or self etched are fine.  a friend etching for you will be fine.

commercially etched boards will not be accepted, and if we find someone using prohibited parts, they will be disqualified from this competition.

THESE ARE THE RULES, IF YOU CANNOT WORK WITHIN THE PROVIDED PARAMETERS, PLEASE DO NOT ENTER THE CONTEST.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 18, 2012, 11:36:45 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 11:25:44 AM
Quote from: cloudscapes on September 18, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
no prefabbed boards makes it hard for those of us who want to use fine-pitch SMD and solder masks  :-[
it was fine for the last one...

YOU NEED TO READ THE RULES. ;)


RULES:

1)   Builds do not need to be themed. Just good quality builds.
2)   NO pre-fabbed circuit boards allowed. Self-etched PCBs, Vero, or tag board only.
3)   Competition is open to hobby builders only. NO commercial or production builders.
4)   Multi-board builds MUST contribute an entry fee for EACH board. The ONLY exceptions to this are charge pumps, 3PDT boards, and millennium bypass circuits.
5)   Circuit layouts DO NOT have to be your own. You may use circuits that are already out there however, more consideration will be given to custom layouts. Bonus judging points given to those who provide their custom layouts WITH their submission. Builders who use a layout for their build MUST give credit to the original layout designer. (if known)
6)   Enclosures can be etched, painted, laser engraved, etc. More consideration will be given to more "creative" esthetic efforts. A "good" etch is not as good as a "great" paint job.
7)   Difficulty of the build as well as clean wiring will be judging criteria.
8]   This competition is for through-hole analog builds only. No DSP, SMD, or Tube builds. This makes the competition accessible and win-able to everyone!
9)   Entries WILL provide evidence of a WORKING pedal! Pictures and gut shots are MANDATORY! Must include a video of the pedal in action. Video submissions must show clean guitar through amp, followed by ONLY the built pedal (with NO delay, reverb, etc.) then followed by the built pedal with ANY other effect to make your build unique. We will be judging heavily on the finished product!!! This is your chance to make it stand out!! Be creative but, do it in the order stated please.
10)   Entries MUST BE completed builds. Incomplete or non-working builds will not be considered.
11)   This competition is for NEW or UNSEEN builds only! The whole idea behind this competition is to encourage creativity and to share ideas on the forum. Please do not enter other "competition winner" or previously entered or pictured builds. If you have a killer build that has not been revealed yet, then I guess it's your lucky day! Otherwise, please come up with something original for this competition.


smt/tubes etc are not valid entries. this is for thru-hole entries only.

this is NOT the last competition, and is designed to level the playing field for the beginners to have a chance too.

perhaps in another competition, but in this one, it clearly states in the rules, NO SMD.

did you read the rules?

and yes, no commercially produced boards. vero, perfboard, tagboard, or self etched are fine.  a friend etching for you will be fine.

commercially etched boards will not be accepted, and if we find someone using prohibited parts, they will be disqualified from this competition.

THESE ARE THE RULES, IF YOU CANNOT WORK WITHIN THE PROVIDED PARAMETERS, PLEASE DO NOT ENTER THE CONTEST.

So I can enter a prefabbed SMD board if I'm a commercial builder and as long as its all digital? Will I be disqualified if I use through hole? ???  ;D

Are you still having fun, judges???  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 18, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 11:21:31 AM
ALSO...

yesterday i built up the circuit board for the prize i will be giving, one point - to point fuzzface, the variant we call "the sterno face" here as it is created and tweaked
for local guitarist bob stern of the drivetime party band.

it will be an NPN silicon fuzzface, with true bypassing, higher output than normal (fuzz faces are generally slightly below unity gain) in a trusty rat shack box. it will accept normal center - wall warts.


(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/550570_4231708323869_1305332117_n.jpg)

Are the toe nail clippings part of the prize? 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 11:39:31 AM
no, you can't, you will lose. ;)

are you having fun? ;)

by all means tho, feel free to submit your smd/tube/digital hybrid on a commercial board...after you submit your entry fee.
:icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on September 18, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 11:21:31 AM
ALSO...

yesterday i built up the circuit board for the prize i will be giving, one point - to point fuzzface, the variant we call "the sterno face" here as it is created and tweaked
for local guitarist bob stern of the drivetime party band.

it will be an NPN silicon fuzzface, with true bypassing, higher output than normal (fuzz faces are generally slightly below unity gain) in a trusty rat shack box. it will accept normal center - wall warts.


(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/550570_4231708323869_1305332117_n.jpg)

Are the toe nail clippings part of the prize? 

only if you want 'em, jdantsi!!

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 18, 2012, 11:41:45 AM
But, can I chew gum?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 18, 2012, 11:51:09 AM
Quote from: garcho on September 18, 2012, 11:41:45 AM
But, can I chew gum?

Only if it's DIY gum.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 12:09:56 PM
i don't recommend the gum that comes from the dispensers in the men's room at the bar, it tastes like rubber... :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 18, 2012, 12:21:05 PM
I was at the gas station yesterday and in the bathroom it said don't buy the trojan gum, it taste like rubber.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on September 18, 2012, 12:30:05 PM
Ewww
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 18, 2012, 03:09:52 PM
ATTENTION PERSPECTIVE CONTESTANTS!!!

We have a new addition to the prizes pool. This will mean we will have a total of 6 winners  ;D

The new prize is as follows:

- A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs/ shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post (Courtesy of Jacob at JMK PCBs)

Also, we are going to ask that ALL contestants who plan to enter have their entry fee paid no later than 30 days from this post. If we do not have the required 15 entries by this time and date then the contest will be pulled and money will be refunded. (We DEFINITELY DO NOT want this. We wanna see some great builds!!)

Good luck to all that plan to enter and all that have entered thus far  ;D

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 18, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
Alright, suckas, I'm in.  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 05:53:43 PM
that's the gum i am talking about.

here's the sternoface, gonna take it out tonite and rock the living piss out of it. ;)

if it survives, then it will be my humble contribution to the prizes.

edit....oops...fergot rhe dang pitcher!!

(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/262356_4236140954682_1283757128_n_zpsba96fefa.jpg)

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 18, 2012, 07:09:02 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on September 18, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
Alright, suckas, I'm in.  :icon_twisted:

I bet your wife is getting tired of you stealing the toilet seat.   :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 18, 2012, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 05:53:43 PM
that's the gum i am talking about.

here's the sternoface, gonna take it out tonite and rock the living piss out of it. ;)

if it survives, then it will be my humble contribution to the prizes.

edit....oops...fergot rhe dang pitcher!!

(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/262356_4236140954682_1283757128_n_zpsba96fefa.jpg)



STUPID PEDAL TRICKS!!
STUPID PEDAL TRICKS!!
STUPID PEDAL TRICKS!!

;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 18, 2012, 07:55:29 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 18, 2012, 07:09:02 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on September 18, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
Alright, suckas, I'm in.  :icon_twisted:

I bet your wife is getting tired of you stealing the toilet seat.   :D

Maybe I should just use the whole toilet this time. That way I could sit and play!  At least the smell would match my playing ability! :-\
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 18, 2012, 09:47:07 PM
BSIT  (brown sound in a toilet) :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 19, 2012, 01:30:08 AM
Entry fee paid, if only to help ensure the minimum contestant count gets filled, I have no idea yet what to build.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 19, 2012, 04:35:05 AM
I like the rules, stress not judges, its all good. Through-hole analogue on diy pcb/vero/perf, true DIY.
I consider the entry fee to be a donation to Aron's store/website, plus I might have a bit of fun building something I have wanted to try but never got around to it. I have progressed about 3% of the way towards completion:

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_the%20box1_zps056e5f1a.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/the%20box1_zps056e5f1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on September 19, 2012, 04:36:13 AM
^ that looks great... 8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 19, 2012, 06:14:10 AM
Quote from: Ronan on September 19, 2012, 04:35:05 AM
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_the%20box1_zps056e5f1a.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/the%20box1_zps056e5f1a.jpg)

How am I to compete with that? I want my money back  :'(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 19, 2012, 07:41:30 AM
^^^DQ'ed!!!!!  That thing looks suspiciously digital.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 19, 2012, 08:56:15 AM
^^^^ Simple, yet elegant...  Where's my towel?

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/8A2C3FB2-384A-4310-A031-A71683888310-3062-0000043D8BAA4049_zps83cec857.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 19, 2012, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 18, 2012, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 18, 2012, 05:53:43 PM
that's the gum i am talking about.

here's the sternoface, gonna take it out tonite and rock the living piss out of it. ;)

if it survives, then it will be my humble contribution to the prizes.

edit....oops...fergot rhe dang pitcher!!

(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/262356_4236140954682_1283757128_n_zpsba96fefa.jpg)



STUPID PEDAL TRICKS!!
STUPID PEDAL TRICKS!!
STUPID PEDAL TRICKS!!

;D

gotta wait a couple days, had a little mishap with some sheet metal last nite just after i posted that pic, and sliced my thumb to the bone. it was cool. bone looks really unnatural.
;)
the blood squirting was epic; bella the wonder dog got some in her i think, now she sleeps upside down hanging by her back paws in the closet, and has an aversion to sunlight.
i can handle that, but the goth clothing has gotta go.. great. two pasty white creatures of darkness here now.

so...rather than go get the 3-4 stitches i should have gotten,i opted to go play my tuesday nite gig. i got very hammered and let any creep that wanted to molest my gear.

it was revolting and pathetic, like...and i just sang my non-small ass off (tho i did play some bass and guitar, too).

what's the point of this revelation?

well, the point is, i took THIS sterno face out and put it thru it's paces last nite, and it survived the night and i think will make some poor disturbed soul very happy for turkey day.

now i realize you may think, "oh....YAFF. HOW EXCITING. yawn"

but this is a little different...the sterno face has the front end of a fuzzface, but it's ass end is MOSFET.

so...it's kinda a fuzz... but wait! it's kinda an overdrive... for a distortion.

stay tuned for stupid pedal trick part A, where i will introduce the sterno face circuit...

and part b, after the dubiously lucky winner is announced, where i will do another stupid pedal trick announcing the winner and giving them undeserved props and kudos and accolades and
crap like that, for the ultimate pimpin' rights to pwn pink here...

"as a matter of fact, this video is made for ME, revel in my AWESOMENESS!!!"...

the best part of THIS prize....  may be the video. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 19, 2012, 12:19:59 PM
Ouch. I know that feel. Did you take pictures? :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 19, 2012, 12:53:12 PM
not yet, wanna give it a few days to fester and necrotize   :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 19, 2012, 03:08:42 PM
Does the winner get the thumb with the pedal?   :icon_eek:

Seriously, sorry to hear about that. Keep it clean and some antibiotic goop on it till it heals. Thumbs are kinda important to building stomp boxes and playing!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 19, 2012, 03:45:10 PM
thanks john, i'll be ok. fugger just hurts...where i sliced it no matter what i do, i end up using it.

if, however, it was a clean amputation, i'd gladly send the thumb, too...someone could make an ear guage out of it, or something.

sadly, no blood was spilled on this box, so no magickal mojo will be in it's dna. ;)

was a chunk of amp chassis that messed me up.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: aron on September 19, 2012, 03:50:15 PM
Make sure you send me your forum name if you have entered. Some of the orders don't have a username.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 19, 2012, 08:35:35 PM
Just did towel laundry, I'm in!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 19, 2012, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: aron on September 19, 2012, 03:50:15 PM
Make sure you send me your forum name if you have entered. Some of the orders don't have a username.

John Danna=Jdansti   Thx!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Beo on September 19, 2012, 09:27:05 PM
Quote from: aron on September 19, 2012, 03:50:15 PM
Make sure you send me your forum name if you have entered. Some of the orders don't have a username.

Travis Pike - Beo
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 19, 2012, 10:06:26 PM
Quote from: aron on September 19, 2012, 03:50:15 PM
Make sure you send me your forum name if you have entered. Some of the orders don't have a username.

Mike Scheurer= haveyouseenhim
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on September 19, 2012, 10:18:04 PM
Quote8]   This competition is for through-hole analog builds only. No DSP, SMD, or Tube builds. This makes the competition accessible and win-able to everyone!
I haven't decided if I'm in or not but I have a question for your consideration.  I have a concept that could be made much simpler using a MCU for some basic logic work - the MCU would not be in the signal path at all.  Since this rule loosely implies "no programming", I wanted to get clarification before I go much further on brainstorming the idea. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 20, 2012, 09:24:56 AM
Quote from: defaced on September 19, 2012, 10:18:04 PM
Quote8]   This competition is for through-hole analog builds only. No DSP, SMD, or Tube builds. This makes the competition accessible and win-able to everyone!
I haven't decided if I'm in or not but I have a question for your consideration.  I have a concept that could be made much simpler using a MCU for some basic logic work - the MCU would not be in the signal path at all.  Since this rule loosely implies "no programming", I wanted to get clarification before I go much further on brainstorming the idea. 

No DSP at all on this go round  ;D

Keeping it all through hole analog builds.

Hope you still enter. Good luck!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on September 20, 2012, 09:50:36 AM
MCU /= DSP. DSP is Digital Signal Processing and is completely different than using a MCU (Microcontroller) for logic (not in the signal chain at all).  A DSP is used to take a signal, run it through analog to digital converters, manipulate it, run it through digital to analog converters then spit it out the output jack.  Here the DSP is in the signal path, further the code in the DSP IS the effect.  An MCU used for logic would be doing things like generating a LFO signal, a clock signal or turning on/off relays that manipulate the signal chain.  I can do what I'm planning on doing with stock CMOS and TTL chips but it's much easier to do it with an MCU. But that brings about another question....

Could please define "analog"?  Many of the circuits we play with are not analog, so "analog only" is rather ambiguous given what's common in the pedal genre historically and right now.  For example, a 4049 is not an analog chip, but is used in many distortion circuits.  For that matter neither are the charge pumps used, or the PT2399, or any of the BBD chips and clocks and...  you see where this is going.  If what you really mean is "no software programmable chips" then that wording would be better suited to what you're after than "analog only". 
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on September 20, 2012, 10:06:28 AM
Guys guys stop asking for rule clarifications. One of the fun things with the Tone God's old FX-X competitions was stretching the definitions of the rules or interpreting them creatively. If we tie down every last detail there will be no opportunity for shenanigans :)

I'm in by the way.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 20, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
My initial thought is to say NO to any software programmable chips.

I will however, go with the majority ruling by the rest of the judges.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: nascarbean_97 on September 20, 2012, 10:33:44 AM
I don't know if it has already been asked, but what about ptp builds? The basic entry fee? Would I have to put like, one component on a board?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 20, 2012, 10:39:03 AM
Quote from: nascarbean_97 on September 20, 2012, 10:33:44 AM
I don't know if it has already been asked, but what about ptp builds? The basic entry fee? Would I have to put like, one component on a board?

Point to point builds are welcome to enter.

One entry fee for the build as long as it is one circuit in accordance with the rules and the MANY, MANY clarifications on this thread.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on September 20, 2012, 10:56:43 AM
can i put a picture of my cat on a pedal then call myself barbara whilst banging a box of cornflakes on my head and shouting obscene words?.....if so i'm in... ;D

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 11:35:06 AM
sorry guys, but greg, dino and i discussed this at length...

this competition is ANALOG, THRU HOLE COMPONENTS ONLY.

molesting a cmos chip or whatever? fine... but no digital, period. sorry, but maybe in the future if we do this again, we can allow that.

but in this case,the rules are the rules, and are written in stone.

no arduinos, no logic circuits, no DSP or MCU etc... if it isn't being used in an analog fashion, fuhgeddaboubit.

gotta be analog bro.

and rob.... no extra points for calling yourself barbara. ;)

guys...the rules are the rules. read 'em and weep, but that's just the way it f'n is this time out. ;)

next time, we'll do hardware VST hosts or something... ;) lol
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on September 20, 2012, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 11:35:06 AM
sorry guys, but greg, dino and i discussed this at length...

this competition is ANALOG, THRU HOLE COMPONENTS ONLY.

molesting a cmos chip or whatever? fine... but no digital, period. sorry, but maybe in the future if we do this again, we can allow that.

but in this case,the rules are the rules, and are written in stone.

no arduinos, no logic circuits, no DSP or MCU etc... if it isn't being used in an analog fashion, fuhgeddaboubit.

gotta be analog bro.

and rob.... no extra points for calling yourself barbara. ;)

guys...the rules are the rules. read 'em and weep, but that's just the way it f'n is this time out. ;)

next time, we'll do hardware VST hosts or something... ;) lol
What's with the attitude - and not just you, everyone being condescending about me asking this question?  I'm simply asking questions so I don't do alot of work for nothing.  
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 20, 2012, 12:16:52 PM
Quote from: deadastronaut on September 20, 2012, 10:56:43 AM
can i put a picture of my cat on a pedal then call myself barbara whilst banging a box of cornflakes on my head and shouting obscene words?.....if so i'm in... ;D



Only if you provide a video, Barbara. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 20, 2012, 12:19:04 PM
@defaced

Sorry if you feel there is attitude behind the responses. I cannot speak for jimi but I had no such intentions. If there was implied attitude from other responses you can probably chalk it up to the many times that people have tried to "interpret" the rules and how many times they have needed to be clarified. We welcome any questions about whether or not your build will fall under the competition rules. We only ask that you familiarize yourselves with the rules that are already posted AND that you look through the thread to see if your question has already been answered.

We want a good competition, open to all, that will inspire other builds or builders AND help the forum. These basic goals are what inspired the rules. I really hope you come up with something great for your build. This time around though... It will need to be absent of your MCU idea.

Good Luck  ;D

@Rob

Feel free to enter whatever you like as long as you have paid to enter  ;D please just try to keep it somewhat decent  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 20, 2012, 12:22:41 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 20, 2012, 12:19:04 PM

@Rob.  @BARBARA!

Feel free to enter whatever you like as long as you have paid to enter  ;D please just try to keep it somewhat decent  :icon_lol:

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 20, 2012, 12:54:47 PM
Quotetry to keep it somewhat decent

yeah, no weenies!!!
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 20, 2012, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: garcho on September 20, 2012, 12:54:47 PM
Quotetry to keep it somewhat decent

yeah, no weenies!!!

That's gonna hamper Barbara a lot ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on September 20, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
QuoteSorry if you feel there is attitude behind the responses. I cannot speak for jimi but I had no such intentions. If there was implied attitude from other responses you can probably chalk it up to the many times that people have tried to "interpret" the rules and how many times they have needed to be clarified. We welcome any questions about whether or not your build will fall under the competition rules. We only ask that you familiarize yourselves with the rules that are already posted AND that you look through the thread to see if your question has already been answered.

We want a good competition, open to all, that will inspire other builds or builders AND help the forum. These basic goals are what inspired the rules. I really hope you come up with something great for your build. This time around though... It will need to be absent of your MCU idea.
Thank you.  Absent of the MCU is fine, I understand the spirit of the competition (everyone can compete) and think it's a good idea.  I will be frank, my submission, if I can swing it (time is a premium), will include cookbook logic circuits and off the shelf parts to control signal routing; the signal path will be all analog.  Here's my point of confusion, that is digital by the definition of digital (but so are alot of other things that show up on common pedals, see my post above), but I do not think it violates the intent of what you're trying to achieve (off the shelf parts and circuits that everyone has access to and can compete with).  Fundamentally, that's why I'm asking the question - by definition I can't tell if it's not allowed, by intent, it looks like this is cool.  If that's not allowed, that's cool no hard feeling and good job on putting together a level competition, but at this time I'll abstain from entering because for my personal goals, I'd like to do this concept to this extent and doing less is kinda fruitless for me because it doesn't really do what I want it to do.  If it is allowed, awesome, I'll kick ass and if I can get a chunk of this knocked out before the entry deadline closes, then I'll pay my fee and compete. I think you may want to consider amending the rules to "no software programmed chips" because I am getting the feeling that more wholly communicates what you mean. I guess more succinctly put, "digital" in the pedal vernacular is different than "digital" in the technology world, and that's causing my confusion.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 20, 2012, 03:05:33 PM
I really do not think we need to get into a tit for tat debate on what is digital by definition and what is not. Simply put, those of us who have been around for a while should be able to interpret the ruling on this and be able to build. Those who have not probably are not into that realm yet and therefore have no questions about it.
Bottom line is that a decision has been made and it seems pretty reasonable.

@defaced

I hope you do decide to enter. If you do, please remember that there is a deadline for entry fees.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on September 20, 2012, 03:15:13 PM
Best of luck to everyone.  I will not be entering. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 04:25:55 PM
sorry, defaced... we've gotta stick to our guns on this one i think, so everyone has a fair shot at it.

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 04:28:42 PM
here's the revised SPT for the sterno face i'm donating...there's another video, too, but ummmmm.... didn't realize the battery in the fuzz was dead..

a whole 1.5 volts, and the fuzz still worked, tho the led didn't.

here's the thing at 9v:



just a taste...if ya wanna see the whole thing,  hit my youtube.com/666pinkster page.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: defaced on September 20, 2012, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 11:35:06 AM
sorry guys, but greg, dino and i discussed this at length...

this competition is ANALOG, THRU HOLE COMPONENTS ONLY.

molesting a cmos chip or whatever? fine... but no digital, period. sorry, but maybe in the future if we do this again, we can allow that.

but in this case,the rules are the rules, and are written in stone.

no arduinos, no logic circuits, no DSP or MCU etc... if it isn't being used in an analog fashion, fuhgeddaboubit.

gotta be analog bro.

and rob.... no extra points for calling yourself barbara. ;)

guys...the rules are the rules. read 'em and weep, but that's just the way it f'n is this time out. ;)

next time, we'll do hardware VST hosts or something... ;) lol
What's with the attitude - and not just you, everyone being condescending about me asking this question?  I'm simply asking questions so I don't do alot of work for nothing.  


absolutely zero attitude here, boss...sorry if ya feel picked on, it is completely unintentional. i find the topic of your idea absolutely fascinating, and would love to see it!!!
but for this competition, we're sticking to our guns.

no attitude... at most joking around. rock on man, sorry you won't be entering. FWIW, we DID learn something from this, as your idea was something we didn't even consider whatsoever... but if it falls into a digital realm,  we already decided we can't go there, as it could give a distinctly unfair advantage  over simpler designs.

a big part of this is trying to keep it user friendly for everyone... thru hole analog stuff everyone can do, SMD and digital are beyond the majority of the target we're hoping to get to participate.

i am very sorry if you felt i was giving you a tude, brother... that ain't me. i AM an a$$ at times, for sure, but i never am looking to hurt anybody.

peace man
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on September 20, 2012, 05:15:05 PM
Sounds good.  Thanks Jimi.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 05:49:27 PM
all good bro. peace!!! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on September 20, 2012, 05:53:52 PM
I appreciate that given my earlier comment I should be bitch slapped for this, but can we have a simple yes or no answer on PT2399s.

Many people don't know they're digital and many more, including me, wouldn't have considered them off limits under rule 8, they would certainly be within the spirit of the competition. Presumably they fall under "nothing digital". Wasn't planning on using one, but I can see how someone else might.

Apologies if that earlier post appeared to be aimed at you defaced it wasn't intended to be. I hadn't seen your preceding post when I wrote it, must have posted at the same time, I was using tapatalk and it doesn't warn of new posts.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 20, 2012, 06:29:39 PM
Quote from: slacker on September 20, 2012, 05:53:52 PM
I appreciate that given my earlier comment I should be bitch slapped for this, but can we have a simple yes or no answer on PT2399s.

Many people don't know they're digital and many more, including me, wouldn't have considered them off limits under rule 8, they would certainly be within the spirit of the competition. Presumably they fall under "nothing digital". Wasn't planning on using one, but I can see how someone else might.

Apologies if that earlier post appeared to be aimed at you defaced it wasn't intended to be. I hadn't seen your preceding post when I wrote it, must have posted at the same time, I was using tapatalk and it doesn't warn of new posts.

Ian- Great minds think alike!  I had typed the following earlier and then got called away for "real work" before I could post it.  I'm just going to post it as is even though you covered some of this already.
------------------------------

Thanks to everyone who is making this contest possible. I appreciate your time, commitment and donations. 

At the risk of being unpopular, allow me to beat a dead horse with one more whack.   :)

 I recognize that when making rules, it's difficult to be perfectly clear on every conceivable issue without involving attorneys and a 10 page set of rules.  That's why the judges have asked that we ask questions. I think the judges tried to answer the digital question, but there does remain a minor point that I think can be answered yes or no. 

Many of the common components we use on our "analog" boards are in fact digital components. For example, the rules would allow one to build a reverb using a PT2399 chip. But the PT2399 is a digital component.  From the data sheet: 

"Digital processing is used to generate the delay time..."
http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/PrincetonTechnologyCorporation/mXyzsyzt.pdf

Tap Tempo is another example:

"The TTT uses a digital microcontroller to do the tap tempo and create the waveforms. It then uses an optocoupler to control volume. The audio path remains analog all the way through..."
http://musicpcb.com/pcbs/tap-tempo-tremolo/

So let me ask two yes or no questions of the judges:

1) Components that are are utilized as analog in/analog out devices are allowed.    Example: PT2399 and Tap Tempo. Correct?

2) Components that are utilized as digital in and/or digital out are not allowed. 
 Example: Micro controllers that digitally communicate with other components.  Correct?

Thank you for flying with us and have a lovely day.  :)


@Defaced, if you decide to remain on the sidelines for this one, I hope you'll compete when we have a contest that focuses on digital. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 06:29:40 PM
i would imagine a 2399 is fine.  i think we mean digital logic kind of circuits, not a simple chip being used for audio purpose.

i will agree with whatever the other judges decide.

that is a very relevant question in light of earlier posts....good call.

to me, it would seem that's valid...perhaps we need to revisit defaced's request...

when is digital used? is it for audio processing,  or is it used for logic? it's fuzzy to me, i am far from an EE.

i think it may be that we need to differentiate between DSP and being used as a component...

i personally know so little about this, i will take a backseat to dino and greg....

hey defaced...don't give up yet. i may have mis-spoken.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 06:34:06 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on September 20, 2012, 06:29:39 PM
Quote from: slacker on September 20, 2012, 05:53:52 PM
I appreciate that given my earlier comment I should be bitch slapped for this, but can we have a simple yes or no answer on PT2399s.

Many people don't know they're digital and many more, including me, wouldn't have considered them off limits under rule 8, they would certainly be within the spirit of the competition. Presumably they fall under "nothing digital". Wasn't planning on using one, but I can see how someone else might.

Apologies if that earlier post appeared to be aimed at you defaced it wasn't intended to be. I hadn't seen your preceding post when I wrote it, must have posted at the same time, I was using tapatalk and it doesn't warn of new posts.

Ian- Great minds think alike!  I had typed the following earlier and then got called away for "real work" before I could post it.  I'm just going to post it as is even though you covered some of this already.
------------------------------

Thanks to everyone who is making this contest possible. I appreciate your time, commitment and donations. 

At the risk of being unpopular, allow me to beat a dead horse with one more whack.   :)

 I recognize that when making rules, it's difficult to be perfectly clear on every conceivable issue without involving attorneys and a 10 page set of rules.  That's why the judges have asked that we ask questions. I think the judges tried to answer the digital question, but there does remain a minor point that I think can be answered yes or no. 

Many of the common components we use on our "analog" boards are in fact digital components. For example, the rules would allow one to build a reverb using a PT2399 chip. But the PT2399 is a digital component.  From the data sheet: 

"Digital processing is used to generate the delay time..."
http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/PrincetonTechnologyCorporation/mXyzsyzt.pdf

Tap Tempo is another example:

"The TTT uses a digital microcontroller to do the tap tempo and create the waveforms. It then uses an optocoupler to control volume. The audio path remains analog all the way through..."
http://musicpcb.com/pcbs/tap-tempo-tremolo/

So let me ask two yes or no questions of the judges:

1) Components that are are utilized as analog in/analog out devices are allowed.    Example: PT2399 and Tap Tempo. Correct?

2) Components that are utilized as digital in and/or digital out are not allowed. 
 Example: Micro controllers that digitally communicate with other components.  Correct?


Thank you for flying with us and have a lovely day.  :)


@Defaced, if you decide to remain on the sidelines for this one, I hope you'll compete when we have a contest that focuses on digital. :)



john, thanks man...you just nailed what i wish i was eloquent enough to say.

i think if being used in the analog domain, as is typical in guitar effect applications, my vote would change to yes.

i don't think they should be used to digitally create a "sound"....but if they are used to CREATE an effect, ie as an analog device...

man... i'm bowing out of this one, cuz i don't understand it enough to say.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on September 20, 2012, 09:06:12 PM
QuoteApologies if that earlier post appeared to be aimed at you defaced it wasn't intended to be. I hadn't seen your preceding post when I wrote it, must have posted at the same time, I was using tapatalk and it doesn't warn of new posts.
No worries. 

Quotehey defaced...don't give up yet. i may have mis-spoken.
I'm all ears, and true to spirit, I'm workin my case because this is a cool idea I have :icon_biggrin:

QuoteSo let me ask two yes or no questions of the judges:

1) Components that are are utilized as analog in/analog out devices are allowed.    Example: PT2399 and Tap Tempo. Correct?

2) Components that are utilized as digital in and/or digital out are not allowed.
Example: Micro controllers that digitally communicate with other components.  Correct?
My 2 cents (no I'm not a judge, and yes I have a vested interest in the outcome, but well, I'm an engineer and working out definitions are part of what we're really good at):

-I think your PT2399 example is spot on, but as you point out, doesn't comply with rule 8 because it's DSP. 
-The TT is a micro-controller, takes special hardware to program (not a tool a novice builder would have), and by definition, takes a digital input (stomps are just pulses of high/low, i.e., digital).  I could entertain arguments that the output is analog (square wave out gets a little sticky).
-But, and you'll love this one.  By the second definition in your post, and the current wording of Rule 8, the flip/flop circuit used in Boss pedals that takes the momentary stomp and toggles the effect is digital.  It's discrete digital, but digital none the less.  Or taking it a step further, as the rules stand, you couldn't say for example, use two inverters of a 4049 to build a flip/flop to control the on/off of the effect and the rest as distortion stages.   

Are all of these common in pedal building?  Yes.  Are they all digital by definition? Yes.  Per the current Rule 8 and the comments thus far on the topic be should ALL of these circuit/elements be barred from competition?  IMO, yes - they're "digital" by definition.  But as I said in a previous post, "digital" in the pedal vernacular is different than "digital" as a technology, and that point is a BIG sticking point (as we're seeing). 

So engineer's definition-o-rant over. For once in a lifetime, I'll offer my opinion.  Do I personally think the PT2399, TT, BBD clocks, Belton reverb bricks, flip/flops and other common digital elements used in basically analog pedals be allowed?  Yes - but only if my commercial off the shelf bone stock cook book digital control circuit is allowed too.  Why?  All of them are easy to acquire and build.  None of them require special hardware (assuming you buy a TT chip), SMT, or are outside the scope of what a novice could reasonably build - and from my readings of the rules and the judge's comments, that's the primary thrust of this comp and part of what Rule 8 was intended to work toward.

In all honesty, the control circuit I want to use I learned as a novice because someone posted it to a thread I made over at the Music Electronics Forum about four years ago (+1 point if someone can find it and post a link before the deadline to enter passes).  Oh, and it's also a non-MCU way to build a very popular pedal controlling accessory, and I planned on posting the schem with submission so it benefits the community and isn't just a show boat thing (it's not THAT impressive really, you'll probably wonder why I even argued this hard for it).  Lastly (I'm running out of breath, I promise), the same chip from a different TTL logic family has been discussed here before, back in 2007. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 20, 2012, 09:32:58 PM
And here I thought our biggest problem was going to be having to judge 25 different fuzz or overdrive boxes!!  ::)

In the interest of simplifying things and to just try to get to building... I propose the following:

If you can remove the component from its packaging, solder/place it in the circuit, and use it "as is" then it is OK.

If you have to hook it up to a programmer or computer to upload code or instructions to it, then it's NOT OK.


A good example would be the 2399 chip. It can be used right out of the box. Even an FV-1 chip can be used out of the box HOWEVER, the external memory commonly used to turn it into a multi effects platform needs to be programmed so it IS NOT usable.

Does that make it clearer?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 20, 2012, 09:43:46 PM
I strongly feel extra bonus points should be given for the use of human blood (leave the critters out of this folks!), preferably one's own. Must have video proof of the bloodletting and subsequent use. More blood = more points.
There was an entry in the last comp that used blood "as a wood stain". I thought that was brilliant especially within the context of the overall look & feel of that project.
Let the red flow! (okay, it'll be brown when dried; but you know what I mean)
PS: Any use of fake blood/trick photography/magic/etc. to emulate the appearance of blood is strictly prohibited.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 20, 2012, 09:54:21 PM
^what if i burn the name of my project into my arm with a soldering iron?   Points for that?  Because i really will    my body is not a temple. it is a rental car :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 10:04:31 PM
i'll support greg... if ya have to program it, it's out.

let the games commence.

dave, i'm boxing up your fuzzface tonite, i'll try to make sure i bleed all over the thing for ya.

looks like i should have got them stitches.  big chunk of the back of my right thumb is kinda a hideous blue grey. TMI. lol...

if it falls off or something, i'll put it in the box.

i agree, these bodies are more like car rentals than temples...lol
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 20, 2012, 10:14:17 PM
Mine's more like a bus.  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 20, 2012, 10:19:53 PM
Jimi, you should have stitched it up with superglue. I haven't tried it on really deep cuts though.

I wouldn't see all the rule clarification questions as a bad thing, in fact it shows there is a lot of positive interest. Previous to Gov Lacky's above clarification it was clear as day to me that a PT2399 was OUT, but a MCU doing LFO duties was IN. (Signal Generator vs Signal Processor).

Judges, so far, all the rule clarification requests have been valid IMO. As we say in Australia, "we're not playing for sheep stations." Meaning lets not take it too seriously.

Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 19, 2012, 07:41:30 AM
^^^DQ'ed!!!!!  That thing looks suspiciously digital.

Lets have a look inside....

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_thebox2_zps31ebbdae.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/thebox2_zps31ebbdae.jpg)

Oh HELL! Rule Eight Violation! Where's the Pedal Police????
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 20, 2012, 10:25:02 PM
@jimi: you bleed on it and I will clearcoat it to preserve it. Blue/grey skin is usually a good time to seek medical attention. Just sayin...
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 20, 2012, 09:54:21 PM
^what if i burn the name of my project into my arm with a soldering iron?   Points for that?  Because i really will    my body is not a temple. it is a rental car :icon_twisted:
I don't give out the points but if done in a artistic and ritualistic manner I see that being a major plus. And I do believe you will.  Just verify the potential points with the judges first before doing any body modifications  as I have no part of making the rules.
Body? Temple? LOL! Rent a car? Double LOL!!! More like disposable lighters. ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on September 20, 2012, 10:27:16 PM
QuoteIf you can remove the component from its packaging, solder/place it in the circuit, and use it "as is" then it is OK.

If you have to hook it up to a programmer or computer to upload code or instructions to it, then it's NOT OK.
Cool, I can work with that.  I'll keep an eye on the deadline to enter and see what I can swing. Thanks for keeping the dialog going guys. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 20, 2012, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: defaced on September 20, 2012, 10:27:16 PM
QuoteIf you can remove the component from its packaging, solder/place it in the circuit, and use it "as is" then it is OK.

If you have to hook it up to a programmer or computer to upload code or instructions to it, then it's NOT OK.
Cool, I can work with that.  I'll keep an eye on the deadline to enter and see what I can swing. Thanks for keeping the dialog going guys. 

+1. Thanks judges!  :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 20, 2012, 10:43:26 PM
we don't TRY to be heartless scum...lol
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: markeebee on September 21, 2012, 03:35:12 AM
I will be admiring everybody's entries, but I think I will not be entering myself (an impressive trick if you can manage it).

People are arguing about rules and there has been bloodshed. It's too much like life,  and I'm struggling to find the fun.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 21, 2012, 05:36:42 AM
Can anyone help me out, someone who is perhaps doing a digikey order and has easy access to a post office? I want to try out a MAX7401CPA but shipping is at least $30 to Australia. Could I paypal someone in USA who is doing a Digikey order to cover 2 x MAX7401 and shipping to me?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on September 21, 2012, 07:29:01 AM
in it to win it!!!!!  :icon_twisted: And almost finished....  :icon_biggrin:
It's good that we are allowed to post the pictures whenever we want to.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 21, 2012, 07:37:46 AM
Quote from: markeebee on September 21, 2012, 03:35:12 AM
I will be admiring everybody's entries, but I think I will not be entering myself (an impressive trick if you can manage it).

People are arguing about rules and there has been bloodshed. It's too much like life,  and I'm struggling to find the fun.

"I've never been part of the minority before, never have had to struggle to belong, so I figured I'd milk the experience for all it was worth. Don't they say adversity builds character?"
― Apol Lejano-Massebieau

:icon_wink:

QuoteCan anyone help me out, someone who is perhaps doing a digikey order and has easy access to a post office? I want to try out a MAX7401CPA but shipping is at least $30 to Australia. Could I paypal someone in USA who is doing a Digikey order to cover 2 x MAX7401 and shipping to me?

Ian, I`m at work right now, but I`ll do a quick inventory when I get home tonight. I might be able to swing that for you. Digikey shipping is only 8$ for me, so if you have more stuff you need, pile it on.

Cheers,
Dino
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 21, 2012, 08:15:54 AM
Thanks Dino, I'll send you a pm :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 21, 2012, 08:38:57 AM
Quote from: markeebee on September 21, 2012, 03:35:12 AM
I will be admiring everybody's entries, but I think I will not be entering myself (an impressive trick if you can manage it).

People are arguing about rules and there has been bloodshed. It's too much like life,  and I'm struggling to find the fun.

Come on, Mark. We've done all the hard work.  Several of us are now on anti-depressants, one has held a movie star hostage, and another was so badly affected that he's in the process of committing a slow suicide by slicing his thumb and watching it ooze and fester. 

As John F. Kennedy once said, "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of building a winning stomp box".
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 21, 2012, 09:53:43 AM
 :icon_mrgreen:  <<<<colour of my bloody thumb...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 21, 2012, 10:07:07 AM
I wanna see it :icon_twisted:   Did you see the pic of my finger after the equinox reverb build?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 21, 2012, 10:11:06 AM
lol...no, dude, send it to me!!

i'll try to send ya a pic later, after i re-bandage it.

next time, i'm hitting it with the crazy glue from jump street. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 21, 2012, 10:18:13 AM
sent :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 21, 2012, 10:36:31 AM
nice...bet it trumps mine...let me look...lol

oh, snap!!!  :icon_mrgreen:

i did something similar wayyyyyy back in seminary school, with a soldering iron. it was the 70's, and i was "on" something or other, nodded off in electronics class
and burned the  corner of the tip of my left middle finger off. oops.

mister k called me a f****n' peckerhead, and made me go outside to sleep it off...lol.

this one's not as bad...it's a slice about an inch long and to the bone about a 1/4 inch past the thumbnail. from the thumbnail to the slice, which DID close, it's cold, blue-ish gray and has no feeling,
tho the sumbitch hurts like a mother pucker. ;)

i'll send pictures when i get home later...   :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 21, 2012, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 21, 2012, 10:36:31 AM
nice...bet it trumps mine...let me look...lol

oh, snap!!!  :icon_mrgreen:

i did something similar wayyyyyy back in seminary school, with a soldering iron. it was the 70's, and i was "on" something or other, nodded off in electronics class
and burned the  corner of the tip of my left middle finger off. oops.

mister k called me a f****n' peckerhead, and made me go outside to sleep it off...lol.

this one's not as bad...it's a slice about an inch long and to the bone about a 1/4 inch past the thumbnail. from the thumbnail to the slice, which DID close, it's cold, blue-ish gray and has no feeling,
tho the sumbitch hurts like a mother pucker. ;)

i'll send pictures when i get home later...   :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:



Dude, go to the freaking doctor!!!  Don't treat a cut to the bone like a paper cut. The infection could cost you more than your thumb!  Seriously!  (switch to motherly voice): Stop the macho sh!t and get your f'in @ss down to the clinic!!!

I say that with all love and compassion. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 21, 2012, 01:31:32 PM
thanks john,

i love you too man...in a brotherly way...lol...

i was once geared to a carreer as a human physiologist, i know the drill...if it shows ANY sign of infection, to the doctor i will go.

but at this point, all they will do is debride it...basically cut off the tissue that's dead. which will re-traumatize the wound, it does have a good blood supply to the rest
of the thumb, and at this point the cut is closed and healing...the skin isn't gonna heal, that's a gonner. it will dry up and fall off, seems better to not molest it right now and let it do it's thing.

it's too late for stitches, and as long as it's necrotic, i'm gonna leave it be for now.  alot of times the upper layers will die off even with stitches and medical attention,
so i'm not too worried about it. it may be numb from damaging the nerve, seems i missed the tendon, and that's more crucial to function. somehow, i will survive. ;)

if not, well, keep calm, and solder on...  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 21, 2012, 01:44:11 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 21, 2012, 01:31:32 PM
thanks john,

i love you too man...in a brotherly way...lol...

i was once geared to a carreer as a human physiologist, i know the drill...if it shows ANY sign of infection, to the doctor i will go.

but at this point, all they will do is debride it...basically cut off the tissue that's dead. which will re-traumatize the wound, it does have a good blood supply to the rest
of the thumb, and at this point the cut is closed and healing...the skin isn't gonna heal, that's a gonner. it will dry up and fall off, seems better to not molest it right now and let it do it's thing.

it's too late for stitches, and as long as it's necrotic, i'm gonna leave it be for now.  alot of times the upper layers will die off even with stitches and medical attention,
so i'm not too worried about it. it may be numb from damaging the nerve, seems i missed the tendon, and that's more crucial to function. somehow, i will survive. ;)

if not, well, keep calm, and solder on...  :icon_mrgreen:

Sounds like you've got it under control. Good luck with it!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 21, 2012, 01:47:29 PM
@jimi:
Now for the other question.  Seminary school?  I think we need to hear this facinating story.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 21, 2012, 02:08:25 PM
lol...back when i was a young catholic republican poindexter? ;)

naaaah...just a bad ref to a jim morrison quote...my bad.

i DID go to an after school electronics class at the local tech school, but only made it about one semester before it was cut due to not having enough students.

i learned how to solder, and how to burn myself REAL good, and how to swear like an electrician, which is kinda like a sailor and a blues musician squared.

that said, here's a pic of the thumb. it probably looks better than it is... you can see the slice, tho it is closed up. the damage is between the slice and the thumbnail. that part probably won't make it. oh well. ya know the old saying "the show must go on"?

well it's BULLSHIT!!!

next time i'm getting freekin' stitches. ;)

don't look if your stomach is weak. it's not THAT bad, but the color is kinda gross...lol

(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/thumb_zps7185b3c7.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 21, 2012, 02:12:23 PM
Just in time for Halloween!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 21, 2012, 02:51:44 PM
 :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 21, 2012, 04:05:02 PM
Looks like it smells lovely ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on September 21, 2012, 05:13:18 PM
btw, where's the deadline posted for actually entering? I didn't see in in the rules or on the cart...did I miss it?

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg868556#msg868556
http://diystompboxes.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=89
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 21, 2012, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: LucifersTrip on September 21, 2012, 05:13:18 PM
btw, where's the deadline posted for actually entering? I didn't see in in the rules or on the cart...did I miss it?

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg868556#msg868556
http://diystompboxes.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=89

Lacky posted this on the 18th;

Quote
Also, we are going to ask that ALL contestants who plan to enter have their entry fee paid no later than 30 days from this post. If we do not have the required 15 entries by this time and date then the contest will be pulled and money will be refunded. (We DEFINITELY DO NOT want this. We wanna see some great builds!!)

Good luck to all that plan to enter and all that have entered thus far 

The fighting and fussing was getting such that we figured that if we limit the application time, then people would either «pee, or get off the pot», so to speak. So we decided to give everyone a fair time to decide if they want to participate. That also allows us to refund everyone quickly if the interest wasn`t there, and we don`t get the minimum 15 participants.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 21, 2012, 07:14:47 PM
Thanks Dino  ;D

It looks like we are a little more than half way there. We really hope there are a LOT MORE entries and that this competition really ROCKS!!!!

If you ask me, there are some great prizes to be won too!  :o

Hope to have pics of my contribution to the prizes very soon!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on September 21, 2012, 08:55:11 PM
Quote from: digi2t on September 21, 2012, 06:08:53 PM

Lacky posted this on the 18th;

Also, we are going to ask that ALL contestants who plan to enter have their entry fee paid no later than 30 days from this post.

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg869050#msg869050

thank you...so oct 18
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Electron Tornado on September 22, 2012, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: Perrow on September 16, 2012, 05:52:45 AM
Just to confuse everyone I'm gonna put each component of my English Channel build on a separate board, how much is the entry fee?

In case this hasn't already been suggested....

Build your circuit using point to point and no board. Entry fee waived?  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 22, 2012, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: Electron Tornado on September 22, 2012, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: Perrow on September 16, 2012, 05:52:45 AM
Just to confuse everyone I'm gonna put each component of my English Channel build on a separate board, how much is the entry fee?

In case this hasn't already been suggested....

Build your circuit using point to point and no board. Entry fee waived?  :icon_wink:

Although you get points for trying... no.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 22, 2012, 03:14:54 PM
Quote from: Electron Tornado on September 22, 2012, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: Perrow on September 16, 2012, 05:52:45 AM
Just to confuse everyone I'm gonna put each component of my English Channel build on a separate board, how much is the entry fee?

In case this hasn't already been suggested....

Build your circuit using point to point and no board. Entry fee waived?  :icon_wink:

Nope... Entry fee still applies ;D

But, you will probably impress the judges with a point-to-point build  :o

EDIT: See above post  ;) Thanks Dino!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 22, 2012, 11:36:00 PM
extra mojo for an mxr 117 mounted point to point on a two by four..  :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 23, 2012, 01:58:54 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 22, 2012, 11:36:00 PM
extra mojo for an mxr 117 mounted point to point on a two by four..  :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Do that and I will personally send you a grab bag prize of modulation f/x parts including some BBD's. I'm serious.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 23, 2012, 04:45:08 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 22, 2012, 11:36:00 PM
extra mojo for an mxr 117 mounted point to point on a two by four..  :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:

That reminds me of this colorsound wah clone I built 10 years ago, on a piece of flat steel. Its quite heavy. Handwound inductor and dalo pen pcb if I remember right. Still have it but the Alpha pot wore out. Do you think I should get it going and enter it in the comp? Nahh...

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_PIC_0026_zps3f774b94.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/PIC_0026_zps3f774b94.jpg)
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 23, 2012, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 22, 2012, 11:36:00 PM
extra mojo for an mxr 117 mounted point to point on a two by four..  :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:

I would totally do it, except we're metric here so I don't think I'll be able to find a two by four :(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 23, 2012, 09:25:16 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 22, 2012, 11:36:00 PM
extra mojo for an mxr 117 mounted point to point on a two by four..  :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:

WINNER!!!  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 23, 2012, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 23, 2012, 09:25:16 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 22, 2012, 11:36:00 PM
extra mojo for an mxr 117 mounted point to point on a two by four..  :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:

WINNER!!!  :icon_eek:

:icon_mrgreen:  yep!

gives me an idea for the next contest tho....

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 23, 2012, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: Perrow on September 23, 2012, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 22, 2012, 11:36:00 PM
extra mojo for an mxr 117 mounted point to point on a two by four..  :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:

I would totally do it, except we're metric here so I don't think I'll be able to find a two by four :(

Units don't matter. In the US, a 2x4 isn't actually 2x4 anyway. Make it 2nm x 4nm or 2m x 4m. Your choice.  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 23, 2012, 05:48:18 PM
Extra points if i drive nails into my amp head and do a point to point dr. boogie?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 23, 2012, 05:49:47 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 23, 2012, 12:03:29 PM
gives me an idea for the next contest tho....
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Point to point builds? No PCB, vero, perf, turret, etc. board builds?  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 23, 2012, 10:23:45 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 23, 2012, 05:48:18 PM
Extra points if i drive nails into my amp head and do a point to point dr. boogie?
I would imagine that depends on the exact amp in question.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 24, 2012, 01:13:04 AM
point to point, dead bug, a hunk of cardboard for a circuit board, it's all good. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 24, 2012, 01:07:04 PM
This hit the required number of entries yet? Please post when it does.
I want to donate a prize. A "Pay it Forward" kind of thing on my part.
Judges PM me for details. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 25, 2012, 09:59:37 AM
dave, that's awesome!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 25, 2012, 10:45:40 AM
Thank you Dave, for pitching in to sweeten the pot.

I'm really hoping to see lots of entries. With this many prizes up for grabs, it would be a crying shame to have to cancel due to lack of entries.

A crying shame I tell you!

Crying..... :icon_cry:

Shame.... :icon_redface:

I'm telling you..... :icon_wink:

:icon_lol:

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 25, 2012, 11:09:27 AM
that's it...spamming the forum. god have mercy on my soul...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 25, 2012, 01:48:17 PM
ATTENTION PERSPECTIVE CONTESTANTS!!!

We have 2 more gracious prize donation to add to the mix....

- DIY grab bag! 2 pcs MN3007; 2 pcs MN3101 (clock), 20 pcs genuine (from Mouser) Fairchild 2N5952, some other  LDR's/optocouplers and components. Courtesy of Dave (oldschoolanalog)
-$50 in store credit courtesy of Brian (madbeanpedals)

THAT MAKES 8 TOTAL PRIZES FOLKS!!!!

So.... who is gonna take the Turkey Day challenge to claim these lovely prizes??  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 25, 2012, 02:00:27 PM
damn!!
note to self.... ::)

next time, dumbass, don't be a judge, so you can enter an awesome contest like this!!   :icon_twisted:

some serious prizes this time out!! :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 25, 2012, 02:15:09 PM
At the rate prizes are added to this competition I suspect anyone who submits a build will win at least one prize  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 25, 2012, 02:18:06 PM
it's a 50-50 shot right now, perrow...
i mean, we have 8 prizes, and 8 contestants.

when we have the minimum 15 contestants, that's better than 50-50 odds of winning!! pretty hard to beat, it's better than a fixed voting machine in ohio, for god's sake. ;)

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 25, 2012, 02:54:37 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 25, 2012, 02:18:06 PM
it's a 50-50 shot right now, perrow...
i mean, we have 8 prizes, and 8 contestants.

when we have the minimum 15 contestants, that's better than 50-50 odds of winning!! pretty hard to beat, it's better than a fixed voting machine in ohio, for god's sake. ;)

:icon_mrgreen:

If I risk becoming POTUS in this competition I want my money back  :icon_evil:

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 25, 2012, 02:57:15 PM
your first name ain't ross, is it perrow? lol
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on September 25, 2012, 03:15:22 PM
I think it's extremely generous of you guys to run this competition! Just sent my entry fee  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 25, 2012, 03:48:24 PM
^...7 prizes remaining...  :icon_lol: ^
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 25, 2012, 04:44:21 PM
good luck pakrat!!

yah, dave...7 prizes still to be won!! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 25, 2012, 08:20:40 PM
This fella' is looking for a NEW home!!!  8)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/TurkeyDayXPALL.jpg)

Hopefully it will get a new owner  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on September 25, 2012, 11:50:50 PM
Very nice!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 26, 2012, 12:06:27 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 25, 2012, 04:44:21 PM
good luck pakrat!!
yah, dave...7 prizes still to be won!! ;)
Dudes got mad skills!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 26, 2012, 01:28:33 AM
I want it!  What is it?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 26, 2012, 07:47:58 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on September 26, 2012, 01:28:33 AM
I want it!  What is it?

Custom Digitech XP ALL. The power of an XP100, XP200, XP300  :icon_eek:, and XP400 all in one pedal! AND...... you dont need to unplug it to switch programs  ;D

Hopefully... someone will get to win it!!!

STILL NEED MORE ENTRIES INTO THE COMPETITION!!!  :icon_mrgreen:

Dont hesitate any longer.... get in the game for a chance to win these lovely prizes!!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: WhenBoredomPeaks on September 26, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
the first post was not enough clear for me, what matters this time, the look of the finished pedal (paint/decals/knobs etc), the sound or originality? in other words which one is preferred, a pretty fuzzface or an ugly original design?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 26, 2012, 11:11:29 AM
Quote from: WhenBoredomPeaks on September 26, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
the first post was not enough clear for me, what matters this time, the look of the finished pedal (paint/decals/knobs etc), the sound or originality? in other words which one is preferred, a pretty fuzzface or an ugly original design?

I suppose that it was not "clearly" defined as to what the judges will be looking for. I believe that I can speak for the rest of the judges when I say that the MOST IMPORTANT factor in the judging will be DO I WANT THIS ON MY PEDALBOARD!

When I say this I mean the most important factor will be the SOUND of the end result. Of course, esthetics, originality, layout, wiring, use of space, etc. will ALL be judging criteria BUT, in the end.... if it looks fantastic but doesn't SOUND great then it may score a bit lower than a pedal that look "good" but sounds FANTASTIC!!!

Of course, I wouldn't slack on the overall look either  ;) Go all out and you never know  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 26, 2012, 11:20:36 AM
Just a quick Q/note. Lets hypothetically say one  ::) were to make something similar to a Roland AP7 Jet Phaser. This is one effect however is two distinctly different circuits. All on one board. The distortion part and the phaser part. Now, while it cannot be used as a stand alone distortion, there are modes for just clean phaser as well as dist + phase. Two very different sounding f/x in one unit. This is a bit of a "grey area". Is this considered two circuits or one? One or two entry fees?  :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 26, 2012, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on September 26, 2012, 11:20:36 AM
Just a quick Q/note. Lets hypothetically say one  ::) were to make something similar to a Roland AP7 Jet Phaser. This is one effect however is two distinctly different circuits. All on one board. The distortion part and the phaser part. Now, while it cannot be used as a stand alone distortion, there are modes for just clean phaser as well as dist + phase. Two very different sounding f/x in one unit. This is a bit of a "grey area". Is this considered two circuits or one? One or two entry fees?  :icon_confused:


Hey Dave,

I will tell you this (and other judges... feel free to add or subtract from this)

What you are describing to ME is no different from someone entering anything from a TS with switchable clipping options -OR- even a Shin-Ei Fuzz/Wah clone.

Bottom Line = ALL ON ONE BOARD IS GOOD FOR ME!

Of course, if the judges MAJORITY decision is the other way, then what I just said is POOP!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 26, 2012, 11:43:21 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 26, 2012, 07:47:58 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on September 26, 2012, 01:28:33 AM
I want it!  What is it?

Custom Digitech XP ALL. The power of an XP100, XP200, XP300  :icon_eek:, and XP400 all in one pedal! AND...... you dont need to unplug it to switch programs  ;D

Hopefully... someone will get to win it!!!

STILL NEED MORE ENTRIES INTO THE COMPETITION!!!  :icon_mrgreen:

Dont hesitate any longer.... get in the game for a chance to win these lovely prizes!!!

I want it more now!   :D

Since we've had some new prizes added to the pot, I wonder if it might help get more conestants if you could combine all of the prizes on one post.  Use photos where available. Maybe repeat the prize pot post (say that five times fast!) every other day or so to advertise it.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 26, 2012, 12:17:20 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 26, 2012, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on September 26, 2012, 11:20:36 AM
Just a quick Q/note. Lets hypothetically say one  ::) were to make something similar to a Roland AP7 Jet Phaser. This is one effect however is two distinctly different circuits. All on one board. The distortion part and the phaser part. Now, while it cannot be used as a stand alone distortion, there are modes for just clean phaser as well as dist + phase. Two very different sounding f/x in one unit. This is a bit of a "grey area". Is this considered two circuits or one? One or two entry fees?  :icon_confused:


Hey Dave,

I will tell you this (and other judges... feel free to add or subtract from this)

What you are describing to ME is no different from someone entering anything from a TS with switchable clipping options -OR- even a Shin-Ei Fuzz/Wah clone.

Bottom Line = ALL ON ONE BOARD IS GOOD FOR ME!

Of course, if the judges MAJORITY decision is the other way, then what I just said is POOP!!!  ::)

Dave,

You've brought up a valid point. In my opinion, the AP-7 is one effect. I understand your concern, seeing as how it combines different elements, but in this case, as Greg says, it's one effect.

Rule 4 states;
"4)   Multi-board builds MUST contribute an entry fee for EACH board. The ONLY exceptions to this are charge pumps, 3PDT boards, and millennium bypass circuits."

But, if memory serves me correctly, didn't the AP series pedals also incorporated a noise gate of sorts on a seperate board? If that's the case, then I personally would have to go out on a limb here, and make the following judgement concerning the AP7 (and others, read further on);

If you build an AP7, as per the original factory layout, then I would accept the second board. Since the original configuration is such, then I would lump it into the charge pump, 3pdt board, mill BP, category.
Another good example is the Gemini III dual fuzz, where the circuit is comprised of two boards, piggybacked. Again, if one wishes to emulate the two board setup, it still counts as one effect.

I would apply this exception to any analog effect that was originally produced by the manufacturer as such (like the AP7, or Gemini III), and the burden of proof rests with the entrant.

Just don't try selling us a fuzz circuit, and a delay, on two seperate boards, in one housing, as one effect. That won't fly, unless you can prove that it's a clone of a commercially available pedal (present or past) that has already existed in such a configuration. I reiterate, proof of such must be provided, or else we will insist on a fee per board.

That's my POV on the issue. If Jimi and Greg concur, then that should settle this issue.

Dino
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 26, 2012, 12:33:53 PM
Thanks Greg & Dino.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 26, 2012, 01:21:53 PM
what about if i use wires?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 26, 2012, 01:27:22 PM
Quote from: digi2t on September 26, 2012, 12:17:20 PM
That's my POV on the issue. If Jimi and Greg concur, then that should settle this issue.

I agree!  ;D

Now, can we get some more entries and get this competition started?  ::)

Quote from: garcho on September 26, 2012, 01:21:53 PM
what about if i use wires?

Kind of a vague question.

Details?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 26, 2012, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: garcho on September 26, 2012, 01:21:53 PM
what about if i use wires?
WTF? Lord have mercy, please tell me that's sarcasm...  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 26, 2012, 01:55:31 PM
hi dave...under MY interpretation as set forth (poot forth? ) by my brother judges and myself, if it is ONE CIRCUIT...ie the entire thing takes two boards, that's one thing... if it's TWO circuits, individual circuits to be combined into one pedal, that's different.

in the first circumstance, i would personally consider it to be one circuit.... in the latter, two.

i must defer to the decision of my brothers on this one. your question isn't about combining two effects, it's about reinterpreting ONE effect, if i read this right.

greg? dino?

dang, i knew i shouldn't have become a judge...i want that xpALL...lol

i gotta save the point-to - point ludwig on a 16 foot 2x4 with a home-made rocker treadle for another comp... WAAAAAHHH!!!! :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 26, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
Quotei must defer to the decision of my brothers on this one. your question isn't about combining two effects, it's about reinterpreting ONE effect, if i read this right.

That is correct brother Jimi.   :icon_mrgreen:

Quotedang, i knew i shouldn't have become a judge...i want that xpALL...lol

As we say in baseball... there's always next year.

Quotegotta save the point-to - point ludwig on a 16 foot 2x4 with a home-made rocker treadle for another comp... WAAAAAHHH!!!!

For our metric friends (Pelle included), translation;
" gotta save the point-to - point ludwig on a 4.9 meter, 48mm by 98mm, with a home-made rocker treadle for another comp... WAAAAAHHH!!!! "
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 26, 2012, 02:14:06 PM
lmffaorotff!!

yep...what dino said.

no worries...

i am sending greg my xp200...today.

it will get gender re-assignment surgery, and emerge like lee majors in the 6 million dollar man..
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 26, 2012, 05:14:39 PM
no garcho, wires not allowed. :icon_eek:

:icon_evil:

sarcasm.


:icon_mrgreen:

but only PURPLE wires...and ones with orange stripes. yah. i like stripes..
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 26, 2012, 05:22:08 PM
My prize contribution. Here ya go. First, couldn't find my box of opto stuff anywhere in my quagmire apartment, so I subbed a few things.
Left to right: TL072, MN3007, MN3101, V3205, V3102. 2N5952 below. What you see is what you get. Not too shabby a package for you delay & modulation fans, IMHO.
Good luck to all!
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w121/oldschoolanalog/100_0104.jpg)
Only ten bucks to enter folks. And this isn't even one of the better prizes!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 26, 2012, 05:36:09 PM
dave,
:icon_eek:
that's an awesome prize, and enough to build a couple really cool boxes!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 26, 2012, 10:09:51 PM
Sorry, I was just riffin' on the point to point joking and the badgering with the sarcastic wire question. All I know is, I'm naming my contest entry Tryptophan. Don't know what it is yet, but that's what it's gonna be called. Any ideas? I thought a multi-FX unit with a lot of DSP stuff would be good. JUST KIDDING! Slow Gear rip-off?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 26, 2012, 10:16:33 PM
all good. i survived the HCEF days, so... :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 27, 2012, 04:21:59 AM
just having a little fun...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 27, 2012, 11:40:54 AM
don't let ME stop ya bro, we need to rock out with our ...ummm...we need to have fun around here once in a while, take off our propellor beanies and kick our heels up... :icon_redface:

but seriously...point to point is fine, but no wires. neatness counts. :icon_eek:

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 27, 2012, 12:19:08 PM
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/503F5045-1879-47F1-8420-AB6B6801A0D5-2523-000002845E57B5E3.jpg)

;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 27, 2012, 12:25:57 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on September 27, 2012, 12:19:08 PM
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/503F5045-1879-47F1-8420-AB6B6801A0D5-2523-000002845E57B5E3.jpg)

;D

wow, i think we have a winner.... :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 27, 2012, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on September 27, 2012, 12:19:08 PM
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/503F5045-1879-47F1-8420-AB6B6801A0D5-2523-000002845E57B5E3.jpg)

;D

Let's not forget this one by puretube

(http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/puretube/Breadboardz/freestyle3311.jpg)
(http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/puretube/Breadboardz/freestyle3312.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 27, 2012, 12:59:58 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on September 27, 2012, 12:25:57 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on September 27, 2012, 12:19:08 PM
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/503F5045-1879-47F1-8420-AB6B6801A0D5-2523-000002845E57B5E3.jpg)

;D

wow, i think we have a winner.... :icon_mrgreen:

AKA the "Cat's Cradle fuzz"  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 27, 2012, 02:30:03 PM
first one looks more roadworthy...lol
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 27, 2012, 06:00:47 PM
Incase that thing in clear plastic and set it on display!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 27, 2012, 07:03:13 PM
@Jdansti : What is it? Curious minds need to know.  ;D

26k+ members and not enough entries yet? WTF???
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 27, 2012, 08:34:55 PM
Tried to get attention with bad joke, not working.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 27, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on September 27, 2012, 07:03:13 PM
@Jdansti : What is it? Curious minds need to know.  ;D

26k+ members and not enough entries yet? WTF???

Beats the hell out of me!  I was just surfing and found it here:
http://rhizome.org/announce/events/55464/view/

I think it is supposed to be "art", but I'm not sure if its a valid circuit. The site also talks about weaving circuits into burlap cloth, so I think it's all about artsy-fartsy circuit building.

@garcho:  I don't think your joke went over because you were too close to the truth!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 27, 2012, 09:04:39 PM
Ive been thinking about doing a point to point and casting it in a block of resin. I better get it right because there's going to be no repairing it :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 27, 2012, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 27, 2012, 09:04:39 PM
Ive been thinking about doing a point to point and casting it in a block of resin. I better get it right because there's going to be no repairing it :icon_eek:

You should have done that with your Light Wah!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 27, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
well i do have two!  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 27, 2012, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 27, 2012, 09:04:39 PM
Ive been thinking about doing a point to point and casting it in a block of resin. I better get it right because there's going to be no repairing it :icon_eek:
Would make a real "conversation piece" paperweight when it craps out!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 27, 2012, 09:16:58 PM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on September 27, 2012, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 27, 2012, 09:04:39 PM
Ive been thinking about doing a point to point and casting it in a block of resin. I better get it right because there's going to be no repairing it :icon_eek:
Would make a real "conversation piece" paperweight when it craps out!

Lol   yep. I could burn it to appease the stompbox gods and destroy the ozone. :icon_lol: 

i could always crack it open and save the jacks and pots(i have dust covers on my pots)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 27, 2012, 09:21:49 PM
 :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on September 28, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on September 27, 2012, 12:19:08 PM
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/503F5045-1879-47F1-8420-AB6B6801A0D5-2523-000002845E57B5E3.jpg)

what type of tiny little joke is that?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Motorolagoldenviewchassis.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 28, 2012, 12:44:12 AM
^SERIOUSLY?   How the f*ck do you troubleshoot something like that?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on September 28, 2012, 12:56:56 AM
eww, gross! seriously, makes my brain cell hurt.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 28, 2012, 01:02:45 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 28, 2012, 12:44:12 AM
^SERIOUSLY?   How the f*ck do you troubleshoot something like that?
You don't. Thats called a "bookend" when it doesn't work.
Now that would look really cool encased in clear resin!  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 28, 2012, 01:15:07 AM
@Luci:  Impressive, but I think it's missing a 22k resistor from the lowest choke shown in the photo to ground.  ::)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 28, 2012, 03:52:50 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 28, 2012, 12:44:12 AM
^SERIOUSLY?   How the f*ck do you troubleshoot something like that?

With a schematic I would think. Might take a long time to locate the points you want to measure though.


Todays progress...

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_ruleeighttonertransfer.gif) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/ruleeighttonertransfer.gif)

40 thou tracks and 75 thou pads, 85 thou pads for external wiring. What does everyone else use for toner-resist etched PCB's?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 28, 2012, 08:04:29 AM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on September 27, 2012, 07:03:13 PM
26k+ members and not enough entries yet? WTF???

20 days left  ;D

I see these XP ALLs are fetching about $380-475 on fleBay  :o And they need to be powered down to switch effects!!!

At least there is a backup plan  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on September 28, 2012, 08:30:07 AM
I think most pedal builders would leave it to the last moment to enter.

Lots of good big prizes, plenty of incentive, enough time, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

BTW, how many times can I enter? ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 28, 2012, 08:40:15 AM
Quote from: Ronan on September 28, 2012, 08:30:07 AM
BTW, how many times can I enter? ;)

As many as you would like. If you have 5 pedals you want to enter, that is 5 entry fees AND 5 possible chances of winning ;)

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on September 28, 2012, 08:54:44 AM
Quote from: Ronan on September 28, 2012, 08:30:07 AM

BTW, how many times can I enter? ;)

At least 8 times.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 28, 2012, 10:44:02 AM
At the behest of some forumites, I am re-listing the prize pool for those of you who have joined us late  ;D

PRIZES:

Prizes will be awarded in order of ranking. Basically, when all of the entries are judged, they will be given a final score. The 8 highest scores will be deemed the winners. The winner with the highest score will have his/her choice of prizes from the pool. When that person chooses then the next highest scoring winner will have their choice of the remaining prizes, and so on until the final winner (8th place) will receive the remaining prize.

Prize#1 -- $25 in credit to Smallbear electronics w/ free shipping. Courtesy of Steve.
Prize#2 – Custom Vocalizer pedal build shipped to winner. Courtesy of Digi2t.
Prize#3 – Custom Digitech XP ALL (XP 100, 200, 300, and 400 in one box! And you don't have to power it down to switch effects!!!) Shipped to winner. Courtesy of Govmnt_Lacky.
Prize#4 – Custom "Stupid Pedal Tricks" Pedal shipped to winner. Courtesy of pinkjimiphoton.
Prize#5 – Store credit to DIYStomp store in the amount of the entry fees (minus shipping costs). Courtesy of the entrants and Aron.
Prize#6 -- A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs from JMK PCBs shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Jacob
Prize#7 -- $50 in store credit to madbeanpedals. Courtesy of Brian "bean"
Prize#8 -- Grab bag of "Modulation Junkie" build parts to include: (2)TL072, (2)MN3007, (2)MN3101, (2)V3205, (2)V3102, and (20)2N5952 shipped to the winner in accordance with the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Dave "oldschoolanalog"

ALL OF THE 8 WINNERS WILL RECEIVE A LARGE (Sorry folks... Large is the ONLY size available) DIYSTOMPBOXES T-SHIRT COURTESY OF ARON AND DIYSTOMPBOXES.COM.

Deadline for entry fees is 23:59 on October 18th. Contest ends at 23:59 on Turkey Day... November 22nd.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL WHO ENTER!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 28, 2012, 11:27:35 AM
there is no limit to how many entries you can do, but you have to pay an entry fee for each circuit.

so...wanna ensure you win? enter 8 or 9 projects for 80 or 90 bucks, and odds are, seeing as how there's not enough entrants, you may well take one of the prizes home.

unless your stuff really sucks!!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 28, 2012, 11:47:02 AM
Considering that an XP-1000, which pales in comparison to Greg's XP-ALL, goes for between 350 and 500 clams on EBay (when available!), I would enter at least 5 or 6 entries.

My Colorsound Vocalizer clone is already boxed, and ready to ship. Battery included! :icon_eek: Just needs a winner.

Come on people, tangible prizes here, no guff!

If some of you are jaded from the "1000 Competition", this is the forums chance at redemtion. We're adamant on running a tight ship here. This is what will ultimately ensure that this competition succeeds.

Besides, personally, I value my name and reputation enough to make sure that this baby works properly. After all, my name and reputation is only thing that will remain after I'm dead and buried, so I don't feel like messing with that. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 28, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: digi2t on September 28, 2012, 11:47:02 AM
We're adamant on running a tight ship here. This is what will ultimately ensure that this competition succeeds.
Word. I can attest to that.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on September 28, 2012, 12:14:33 PM
I'm shocked that you guys have to do so much work promoting this contest when the awesome prizes speak for themselves!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on September 28, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: pakrat on September 28, 2012, 12:14:33 PM
I'm shocked that you guys have to do so much work promoting this contest when the awesome prizes speak for themselves!

It's beginning to feel as if this competition was called the "Touch a Leper Competition".  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Arcane Analog on September 28, 2012, 12:24:21 PM
I love these forum contests. Some of the most inspiring, entertaining and killer work out there comes from these. Looking forward to seeing the entries!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on September 28, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
Quote from: digi2t on September 28, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
It's beginning to feel as if this competition was called the "Touch a Leper Competition".  :icon_lol:
No. If it was called that, there would probably be 100+ entries by now.  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on September 28, 2012, 12:29:04 PM
Quote from: Arcane Analog on September 28, 2012, 12:24:21 PM
I love these forum contests. Some of the most inspiring, entertaining and killer work out there comes from these. Looking forward to seeing the entries!

+1 It really makes people bring out the big guns, and it actually makes me complete a build!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 28, 2012, 12:34:42 PM
This is the last time I am going to post about the following topic until October 18th.....

The submission deadline is the deadline. If builders want to wait until then to enter... that's cool! I can understand not wanting to put down your hard earned $10 unless you are absolutely sure! I can agree with that.

I will only attribute the "lack of entries thus far" to that fact!

Personally, I am far too busy to worry about it. I could be spending my time with the family or building some more boxes!  :icon_mrgreen:

I will say this, if we do not get the required entries by the required time... it will be a shame however, I will be comforted by the fact that we tried to do something good and honest for the forum, for Aron, and for us.

Also, it won't hurt to use some of the XP ALL eBay money to get a new axe!  :icon_twisted: I have been wanting one for a while now  :'(

That is all from me regarding this subject until October 18th..... NOW GET SIGNED UP AND GET TO BUILDING!!!!!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on September 28, 2012, 03:05:58 PM
+1 on how fascinatingly slow the contestants are dropping in. I mean I started a "donate to this site (http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=91397.20)" thread and people donated well over a hundred dollars to Aron within days with absolutely zero chance of getting any money back. If you can donate, why not enter this comp if only to make sure someone will win.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on September 28, 2012, 03:48:47 PM
people are just broke these days guys. i know sometimes i don't have 10 bux to my name.
give it time i guess, i'm not gonna keep pimpin' the party, if peeps don't want to, hey,
life goes on...and i can always keep my sterno face and give it to someone else.

but man...i'd think peeps would jump at some of the other prizes.

wtf
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on September 28, 2012, 04:05:39 PM
I might pay for another entry just to beef up the pot, would that help at all?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on September 30, 2012, 05:36:05 PM
Ill toss my hat in the ring :D

ill enter later tonight just hope I can make the deadline!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 30, 2012, 05:39:34 PM
Quote from: Mustachio on September 30, 2012, 05:36:05 PM
...just hope I can make the deadline!

Well, you have until 23:59 on October 18th so....

Sometime tonight should be good!  ;)

Remember... the more times you enter, the more chances you have to win these luxurious prizes!!

Sorry.. missed my calling as a Game Show announcer  :P
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 30, 2012, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: Mustachio on September 30, 2012, 05:36:05 PM
ill enter later tonight just hope I can make the deadline!

You should... A lil over a month and a half is a good bit of time. Well at least for me since I don't have a job. Just GED classes ;D   I aint too dern book smert, but I sure do know how to build them git-tar smashboxes.

(http://i.qkme.me/2ltr.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on September 30, 2012, 08:51:59 PM
Haha yeah I have time to enter but time to finish is another story. Been remodeling parts of my house on my own. lots of work I need to finish before it starts getting real cold. But I should be able to finish something up by T-day for the comp. I just wont sleep  :icon_lol:

Also haha at the meme!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 01, 2012, 02:07:53 PM
Just entered, and started designing something just for this. It might be completed just in time to be pedal #50 for me, provided I don't box up too many things between now and TG. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 01, 2012, 06:06:05 PM
Nice to have you on board, dig your painted enclosures.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 01, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
Quote from: garcho on October 01, 2012, 06:06:05 PM
Nice to have you on board, dig your painted enclosures.

+1!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 02, 2012, 01:27:22 PM
Awrite then. I'm in. I have an idea for a box. Not sure ill make it in time, but as said earlier in the thread, if i don't make it, it feels pretty much ok to donate a piece of money.

Just need to find out how to pay, but im pretty sure ill work that lil problem out.

Cheers
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 02, 2012, 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: Vallhagen on October 02, 2012, 01:27:22 PM
Awrite then. I'm in. I have an idea for a box. Not sure ill make it in time, but as said earlier in the thread, if i don't make it, it feels pretty much ok to donate a piece of money.

Just need to find out how to pay, but im pretty sure ill work that lil problem out.

Cheers

Glad you're  joining!  Here's how to pay (quote from page 1):

Here is the link to pay for your entries. Be sure to let Aron know EXACTLY what you are paying for (if entering multi-board builds):

http://diystompboxes.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=89


Be sure you give Aron your user name and real name.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 02, 2012, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on October 02, 2012, 03:41:25 PM

Glad you're  joining!  Here's how to pay (quote from page 1):

Thanx:) ... all fixed!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 04, 2012, 10:59:40 AM
exxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxcellent, smithers.... :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:

one more!! one closer!!!

WELCOME!!!

you guys are gonna win some fairly awesome prizes at this point. look forward to being a judge! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 04, 2012, 11:28:06 AM
How many contestants do we have now Vanna?

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 04, 2012, 11:54:33 AM
WAIT!!!  I wanna buy vowel! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 04, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
QuoteWAIT!!!  I wanna buy vowel!

I got a guy...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: aron on October 04, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
11 entries so far.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 04, 2012, 06:12:42 PM
Quote from: garcho on October 04, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
QuoteWAIT!!!  I wanna buy vowel!

I got a guy...

Sorry- A vowel...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 04, 2012, 06:27:46 PM
Quote

Sorry- A vowel...

Sir, you are going to have to pay for that
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 04, 2012, 06:49:19 PM
jeez, only 4 to go?
the suspense is freekin' killin' me...

who will win the xp all?

mine came in today....thanks to greg.

OH my F***ING GOD!

IT SOUNDS GREAT, PLAYS GREAT, AND NO POWER DOWN SWITCHING MODES!!

dude...

DUUUUUDE!



DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you are a stompboxaholic, this is a must-have. SCREWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW my fuzz...this is da ting ya want, vanna!!

stupid pedal tricks to come soon...

enter the contest!! i mean, 8 of the 15 entrants are gonna win!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 04, 2012, 06:51:42 PM

Quote from: haveyouseenhim on October 04, 2012, 06:27:46 PM
Quote

Sorry- A vowel...

Sir, you are going to have to pay for that

Actually, I decided that money would be better spent on buying a second contest entry. I'll be lucky to complete one project let alone two, but it's for a good cause.

I now challenge my fellow contestants who can afford to, to purchase a second entry.  I also challenge the other 26,504 members to man up (woman up/it up) and enter today!!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 04, 2012, 06:57:21 PM
no ______, no glory!! :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on October 04, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
Ok I'm In now and paid.  :icon_biggrin:

I was reading thru the rules, I have a question. I was thinking about adding in a separate board for LED's will that cost me another 10 bucks ? It wont be another audio circuit just for visual so is that ok ?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 04, 2012, 09:10:00 PM
Quote from: Mustachio on October 04, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
Ok I'm In now and paid.  :icon_biggrin:

I was reading thru the rules, I have a question. I was thinking about adding in a separate board for LED's will that cost me another 10 bucks ? It wont be another audio circuit just for visual so is that ok ?

Glad you're in!!! :) LED boards cost $10 per LED.  :(



Just kidding-my understanding is no extra fee for daughter boards like yours or 3PDT boards. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 04, 2012, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: Mustachio on October 04, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
Ok I'm In now and paid.  :icon_biggrin:

I was reading thru the rules, I have a question. I was thinking about adding in a separate board for LED's will that cost me another 10 bucks ? It wont be another audio circuit just for visual so is that ok ?

Yes. You only need to pay 1 fee.

If it is not effecting the audio path then you are ok.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 04, 2012, 09:14:07 PM
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Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 04, 2012, 09:22:18 PM
Quote from: Mustachio on October 04, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
Ok I'm In now and paid.  :icon_biggrin:

I was reading thru the rules, I have a question. I was thinking about adding in a separate board for LED's will that cost me another 10 bucks ? It wont be another audio circuit just for visual so is that ok ?

You didn't read the rule that if you've ever advertised car insurance on national tv you cant enter. ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on October 04, 2012, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on October 04, 2012, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: Mustachio on October 04, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
Ok I'm In now and paid.  :icon_biggrin:

I was reading thru the rules, I have a question. I was thinking about adding in a separate board for LED's will that cost me another 10 bucks ? It wont be another audio circuit just for visual so is that ok ?

Yes. You only need to pay 1 fee.

If it is not effecting the audio path then you are ok.

what if the LEDs are used for clipping...and they are the only thing on the board.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 04, 2012, 09:55:39 PM
Glad I'm not one of the judges or rule deciders!   :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on October 04, 2012, 10:20:22 PM
Haha ! For a great low rate you can get online!

Yup its not audio just visual. :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 04, 2012, 10:26:06 PM
LOL   not the general :icon_lol:... This guy.

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/527353_415752128488297_1397333609_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on October 04, 2012, 10:39:44 PM
Hahahaha THAT GUY!!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 05, 2012, 09:14:46 AM
Quote from: LucifersTrip on October 04, 2012, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on October 04, 2012, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: Mustachio on October 04, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
Ok I'm In now and paid.  :icon_biggrin:

I was reading thru the rules, I have a question. I was thinking about adding in a separate board for LED's will that cost me another 10 bucks ? It wont be another audio circuit just for visual so is that ok ?

Yes. You only need to pay 1 fee.

If it is not effecting the audio path then you are ok.

what if the LEDs are used for clipping...and they are the only thing on the board.

WOW!!

If some people put half the effort into an entry build as they did trying to figure out some obscure way to be pseudo-funny about the wording of the rules. This would be one hell of a competition!!  :icon_rolleyes:

In the desperate hopes that you are actually serious about your question...

If you decide that you have to implement SO MANY clipping options that you need to include a separate board just for em, then I am sure it will be ok with the judges.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 05, 2012, 10:30:30 AM
QuoteIf some people put half the effort into an entry build as they did trying to figure out some obscure way to be pseudo-funny about the wording of the rules. This would be one hell of a competition!! 

[Big sigh]... So much misguided energy... so little time. I wrote a whole big rant, only to delete it all when I was finished. Sober second thought I guess.

No, board containing only LED(s), whatever their purpose, is no extra fee.

Can't someone just slip on a banana peel anymore? It's a lot funnier.  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 05, 2012, 11:09:03 AM
Quote from: digi2t on October 05, 2012, 10:30:30 AM

Can't someone just slip on a banana peel anymore? It's a lot funnier.  :icon_rolleyes:

Didn't have a banana slip for ya, but here's a pleasant video of a spine bent in the wrong direction.   :-\



EDIT:
Dang-No embedding. :(. Here's the URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZhMfzc9RbU&sns=em

Well, here's a replacement accident video.

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 05, 2012, 11:20:17 AM
Yup...  :icon_lol:

There's one for the ages; "Once you lock it, it's OK."

An all purpose catch phrase.  :icon_lol: Thanks for that one!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 05, 2012, 01:30:17 PM
Wow! What a buffoon! I just did a wax cylinder recording demonstration at the Edison museum this last summer. In doing my homework before, I found amazingly suggestive 'handling' technique instructions. Thought yous guys would appreciate it.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/HoldPhonoCylinder.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 05, 2012, 01:32:57 PM
Quote from: garcho on October 05, 2012, 01:30:17 PM
Wow! What a buffoon! I just did a wax cylinder recording demonstration at the Edison museum this last summer. In doing my homework before, I found amazingly suggestive 'handling' technique. Thought yous guys would appreciate it.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/HoldPhonoCylinder.jpg)

Once you lock it, it's OK!
:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 05, 2012, 01:33:27 PM
Ha! That one way to say it
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 05, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
Hey, contest leaders, serious request:

A current, up-to-date post with the clarified rules and prizes in one place, with post number references to further clarifications. I've been spreading the word elsewhere and some people were turned off by some missing information in the original post (like the lack of perfboard being among the). I know that the forum software here makes it difficult to edit older posts.

I also wanted to say ... using Eagle has become a pretty major skill among the DIY-er community. It saddens me that I might not see some of my favorite designers/fellow hacks enter because they can't use a fabbed board that they created the layout for. I'm not asking for a rule to be changed at this stage (though you might get some more entries if you do ...), I'm just suggesting that future contests may want to take that development into consideration. I feel it's a little like DIYLC making it possible for me to do kind of complicated perf builds.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 05, 2012, 02:14:05 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on October 05, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
A current, up-to-date post with the clarified rules and prizes in one place, with post number references to further clarifications. I've been spreading the word elsewhere and some people were turned off by some missing information in the original post (like the lack of perfboard being among the). I know that the forum software here makes it difficult to edit older posts.

I find it very funny that none of these requests, rule clarifications, or the likes were ever mentioned in any other competition held on this forum.  ::) I am starting to realize why the competitons are few and far between!

The bottom line is this...

I have a full time job, part time job, wife, 3 kids, bills, house to take care of, and a multitude of other tasks that need to be done which ALL rank a bit higher than monitoring this competition. I am quite sure that the other judges are in the same situation as well. We all got together to put on this competition to benefit the forum, and its members. I truely feel that we (judges, aron, etc.) have gone more than out of our way to clarify rules, add prizes, and just make this as good of a competition as possible with little to no benefit to OURSELVES.

So.... in saying that, my response to this is that if people are interested in winning any of these prizes, then they can take the 10 minutes or so.... grab a pen and paper.... and read the whole thread. ALL of the pertinent info is here.

Quote
I also wanted to say ... using Eagle has become a pretty major skill among the DIY-er community. It saddens me that I might not see some of my favorite designers/fellow hacks enter because they can't use a fabbed board that they created the layout for. I'm not asking for a rule to be changed at this stage (though you might get some more entries if you do ...), I'm just suggesting that future contests may want to take that development into consideration. I feel it's a little like DIYLC making it possible for me to do kind of complicated perf builds.

I understand your position on this however, for this competition there are NO pre-fabbed boards allowed. We do however give bonus points to those who contribute an original layout!  ;D

If your fellow hacks need a board etched... tell them to PM me and I will be more than happy to do it for a small fee of course!  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 05, 2012, 02:39:22 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound disrespectful of your time. I'll be happy to do it myself and pm the updated list for posting if you're okay with that.

Also, maybe I was being unclear, but regarding fabbed boards: I meant a situation where a guy designs a layout just for his contest pedal, then gets it made by Dokbot just for the contest, not just uses a board that he had made in the past and used. I understand the point and can understand why it might require policing or whatevs.

p.s. one of the rules is self-etched only, so contest winners, don't bribe da lackey. :P
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 05, 2012, 03:01:13 PM
dropped 20 bucks at the bar last night. just sayin'.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 05, 2012, 05:17:17 PM
@Jon:  I appreciate your comments and concerns.  You probably already know the following, but I'll go ahead and say it for everyone's consumption. The way I look at this contest is it's a little like a card game. The dealer calls the rules for the hand he's dealing. You know, jokers and one-eyed jacks are wild, etc. This contest is being run and judged by three guys who had a certain vision for the rules of THIS contest. Now, if there are others who would like to have a contest that has different rules, then they might want to get together and start another contest that is more in line with their interests.  I think it would be great to have multiple contests going on where each one has different rules. Some contests would tailored toward more simple projects like this one, and others might have rules that would require a much higher level of knowledge and expertise. Personally, I would have no problem with a contest that was all digital, or all etched PCB (from any source), or all vero, or all perf, or anything goes but the enclosure must be etched. I wouldn't do a digital project or etched enclosure project at this point in my pedal building "career", but that's OK. I would just skip the contests that don't interest me.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 05, 2012, 05:33:45 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on October 05, 2012, 05:17:17 PM
... and others might have rules that would require a much higher level of knowledge and expertise.

No. I mean this contest have quite straight forward rules and we've had page after page of questions about the rules. Imagine a competition with a complex rule set, it'd take down the forum   :icon_eek:

That said, I have a question about the rules...

:icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 05, 2012, 06:18:20 PM
Quote from: Perrow on October 05, 2012, 05:33:45 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on October 05, 2012, 05:17:17 PM
... and others might have rules that would require a much higher level of knowledge and expertise.

No. I mean this contest have quite straight forward rules and we've had page after page of questions about the rules. Imagine a competition with a complex rule set, it'd take down the forum   :icon_eek:

That said, I have a question about the rules...

:icon_rolleyes:

No!!!  Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant more complex/harder builds- not more complex rules!

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on October 05, 2012, 06:39:29 PM
you wanna know why there are so many questions?  because of one single rule that is not too common: $10 per board.

people simply don't know how much to pay when their project skirts the rules...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 05, 2012, 07:02:17 PM
Quote from: LucifersTrip on October 05, 2012, 06:39:29 PM
you wanna know why there are so many questions?  because of one single rule that is not too common: $10 per board.

people simply don't know how much to pay when their project skirts the rules...

Not too common huh??

Far as I know... the last 2 competitions were at the expense of $10 per entry. Also, in both competitions, there were people that entered something as simple as a fuzz circuit ( wouldn't you fall under that Lucifer?) and other submitted like 4 or 5 separate circuits in one enclosure. This rule was put here to prevent that from happening again. We wanted it as level as possible for everyone ( how many times do we need to say that?!) we want to see everyone's best effort for 1 circuit. Sounds simple enough.

As for your other point.... The simple answer is this:

DON'T SKIRT THE RULES!!! If you have a question about your submission, PM one of the judges and they will make a decision on it.

If that wasn't clear before, now it should be.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 05, 2012, 10:01:22 PM
I had a look through the thread on rule clarifications and came up with this doc:

Rule clarifications - click here (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/rule%20clarifications.txt)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 05, 2012, 10:13:01 PM
Quote from: Ronan on October 05, 2012, 10:01:22 PM
I had a look through the thread on rule clarifications and came up with this doc:

Rule clarifications - click here (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/rule%20clarifications.txt)


Thanks for this Ian  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 05, 2012, 10:21:19 PM
For a bunch of what I bet are going to be mostly fuzz & filter pedals entered there sure is a lot of nit picking. If it gets to the required 15 entries I bet 4; maybe 5 TOPS won't be dirt boxes or filter-y whatever.
Geez guys.  :P
Popcorn Time!!!  ;D

Re: Clipping diodes: Solder them to the switch and be done with it.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 05, 2012, 10:26:28 PM
Aw man, you knockin' my Fuzz Filter already? I haven't even made it yet! :)

Don't filters and dirtiers make up at least 66% of pedals anyway?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 05, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: garcho on October 05, 2012, 10:26:28 PM
Aw man, you knockin' my Fuzz Filter already? I haven't even made it yet! :)
Not knockin' anything. Except my head against the wall. I love well filtered dirt as much as the next guy.  :icon_cool:
QuoteDon't filters and dirtiers make up at least 66% of pedals anyway?
Probably more. LOL!  I just threw that out there to shake things up a bit...
Really; if it sounds good. It's probably gonna' be good. Like I said; just shakin' it up a bit and having some fun...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 05, 2012, 11:36:36 PM
Thank you, Ronan. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on October 05, 2012, 11:38:41 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on October 05, 2012, 07:02:17 PM
Quote from: LucifersTrip on October 05, 2012, 06:39:29 PM
you wanna know why there are so many questions?  because of one single rule that is not too common: $10 per board.

people simply don't know how much to pay when their project skirts the rules...

Not too common huh??

Far as I know... the last 2 competitions were at the expense of $10 per entry

That's correct...not per board. Don't get me wrong. I think the rule's very cool to even it out. I'm just pointing out the reason for the majority of the questions...

Quote
Also, in both competitions, there were people that entered something as simple as a fuzz circuit ( wouldn't you fall under that Lucifer?)

I don't know...I actually used the crucifix as an external second "board' with transistors and led mounted in it.  "Simple" is also misleading. I built an obscure fuzz that was hardly built by anyone on the board so there were no build reports, I heavily modded it and built it on an original perf layout. It would've been far simpler to purchase a PCB of a more complicated circuit & paint-by-numbers. I could do that in my sleep. That's why you're "no pcb" rule is great. It actually makes it harder...

Quote
The simple answer is this:
DON'T SKIRT THE RULES!!!

If you think about it, that's almost the same thing as saying DON'T BE CREATIVE. A large part of DIY is to push things to the boundary and create pieces of visual and sound art not seen and/or heard before. You can be rest assured that my entry will skirt the rules.

I've only checked this thread rarely...near the beginning to ask when the deadline was for entering and yesterday to ask a simple question. Now that I skimmed thru the rest of the thread, I see that the promoters were slowly coming to a boil with the clarifications.(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/smiley-green-grayback.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 06, 2012, 09:45:23 AM
Quotethru the rest of the thread, I see that the promoters were slowly coming to a boil with the clarifications.

I can only speak for Jimi and myself. We've got kids. Teenagers actually, so trust us, the "nit-pickers" are still a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way off from our boiling point. Yup, long way off. With teenagers, "clarifications" are a way of life. Several times a day.

I think it should be a prerequisite for being a sponsor/judge of one of these adven, er... contests.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 06, 2012, 02:10:32 PM
Quote from: digi2t on October 06, 2012, 09:45:23 AM
Quotethru the rest of the thread, I see that the promoters were slowly coming to a boil with the clarifications.

I can only speak for Jimi and myself. We've got kids. Teenagers actually, so trust us, the "nit-pickers" are still a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way off from our boiling point. Yup, long way off. With teenagers, "clarifications" are a way of life. Several times a day.

I think it should be a prerequisite for being a sponsor/judge of one of these adven, er... contests.  :icon_lol:

...but Mom said I could use SMD...  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 06, 2012, 04:33:11 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on October 06, 2012, 02:10:32 PM...but Mom said I could...
Often heard by Dads everywhere....
To that we reply:
"I'm NOT your Mother!"
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: aron on October 07, 2012, 03:43:33 PM
13 entries.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 07, 2012, 04:38:35 PM
Almost there, men.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 08, 2012, 12:08:06 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 27, 2012, 09:04:39 PM
Ive been thinking about doing a point to point and casting it in a block of resin. I better get it right because there's going to be no repairing it :icon_eek:

Someone beat me to it  :icon_mad:

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/resinamp.jpg)

EDIT     I searched and found this:  http://runawaybrainz.blogspot.com/2012/04/audio-crystal-cmoy-freeform-headphone.html
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 08, 2012, 01:49:41 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on October 08, 2012, 12:08:06 AM
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/resinamp.jpg)

A build like that has been on my to-do-list for a while now, I doubt mine will look that nice though  :(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on October 08, 2012, 07:05:00 AM
Quote from: aron on October 07, 2012, 03:43:33 PM
13 entries.
Am I allowed to post my stuff? :'(
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 08, 2012, 07:14:28 AM
Quote from: tuckster on October 08, 2012, 07:05:00 AM
Quote from: aron on October 07, 2012, 03:43:33 PM
13 entries.
Am I allowed to post my stuff? :'(

I think so, just here first, then anywhere.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 08, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: tuckster on October 08, 2012, 07:05:00 AM
Quote from: aron on October 07, 2012, 03:43:33 PM
13 entries.
Am I allowed to post my stuff? :'(

Although it was stated in the initial post that entries could be posted anytime, I would advise holding off until at least the 19th of October. That will be the day that we know that competition will be continuing.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on October 08, 2012, 02:39:18 PM
Ok...
How am I suppose to play and turn the knobs? I used a looper in front of the pedal...
And I just noticed that I have reverb on the video (stupid me filmed the amp knobs) but there is no fx on the mp3. Is this ok?
RULE 9 CLARIFICATION: "We don't care WHO demos your build. As long as it is in the manner stated above and you let us know it's your build."  WHO is a looper? :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on October 08, 2012, 05:40:24 PM
Taking shape :)

(http://www.eskimo.plus.com/fxstuff/tease.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 08, 2012, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: slacker on October 08, 2012, 05:40:24 PM
Taking shape :)

(http://www.eskimo.plus.com/fxstuff/tease.jpg)

Looks like Ian is hard at work!  ;D

Careful.... it looks like that 68K resistor needs a home  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 08, 2012, 06:47:24 PM
QuoteCareful.... it looks like that 68K resistor needs a home

that's probably the just antenna.

hard to imagine Ian making something that can fit on one of those little breadboards. :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on October 08, 2012, 06:50:49 PM
You guys joked about the smd..... I've pretty much finished my board the pearl octaver which has smd IC's and then seen no smd's  :o  Haha was excited to do my first smd build ever!


Oh well back to the drawing board on what to make for the contest. No worries ill figure something out .
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 08, 2012, 11:17:24 PM
there's a pedal in there somewhere...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8453/8069441445_c05262a369.jpg)

Folie à Deux, coming soon, Turkey Day, USA 2012!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 09, 2012, 04:55:21 AM
Some progress on the pcb:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/pcb1.JPG)

Are you all scared yet?  :D

Somehow, I don't think so.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 09, 2012, 08:36:15 AM
Quote from: Ronan on October 09, 2012, 04:55:21 AM
Some progress on the pcb:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/pcb1.JPG)

Are you all scared yet?  :D

Somehow, I don't think so.


Dang!  Now I only have a chance at 7 prizes!  My assistant is standing by with the towel...

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/8A2C3FB2-384A-4310-A031-A71683888310-3062-0000043D8BAA4049_zps83cec857.jpg)

;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 09, 2012, 09:00:35 AM
Soldered mine up last night ... and discovered that a transistor I used when designing the effect on the breadboard was WILDLY out of spec for its number. Sockets to the rescue!

Starting on the case tonight. I just hope there's going to be a contest (hint hint, folks) :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 09, 2012, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: Ronan on October 09, 2012, 04:55:21 AM
Some progress on the pcb:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/pcb1.JPG)

Are you all scared yet?  :D

Somehow, I don't think so.


Brail Fuzz?  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 10, 2012, 05:09:30 AM
Nah, too many holes for a fuzz, I'm getting the pcb ready for the dalo pen (etch resistant pen).

I have often wondered if, in this type of competition (where commercial builders cannot enter), it would be good to post up progress, so that the people new to building can see the various stages/approaches/methods/pitfalls to building a stompbox. It could be quite interesting?

But then maybe this isn't the place to do it? Wouldn't worry me to post progress pics, not worried about giving secrets away, more worried about boring everyone to tears...

Just a thought. Any opinions on this?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 10, 2012, 07:06:01 AM
Quote from: Ronan on October 10, 2012, 05:09:30 AM
Nah, too many holes for a fuzz, I'm getting the pcb ready for the dalo pen (etch resistant pen).

I have often wondered if, in this type of competition (where commercial builders cannot enter), it would be good to post up progress, so that the people new to building can see the various stages/approaches/methods/pitfalls to building a stompbox. It could be quite interesting?

But then maybe this isn't the place to do it? Wouldn't worry me to post progress pics, not worried about giving secrets away, more worried about boring everyone to tears...

Just a thought. Any opinions on this?

Knowledge is power. Great idea Ian. Competition aside, I believe it`s one of the raison d`etre`s of the forum, to share the most knowledge possible, and advance the DIY art.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 10, 2012, 09:37:18 AM
Quote from: Ronan on October 10, 2012, 05:09:30 AM
I have often wondered if, in this type of competition (where commercial builders cannot enter), it would be good to post up progress, so that the people new to building can see the various stages/approaches/methods/pitfalls to building a stompbox. It could be quite interesting?

But then maybe this isn't the place to do it? Wouldn't worry me to post progress pics, not worried about giving secrets away, more worried about boring everyone to tears...

Just a thought. Any opinions on this?

It would be interesting, although it will be painfully obvious that mine won't be professional.   :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 10, 2012, 10:51:59 PM
well, i know us JUDGES wanna see evidence anyways...so....

post them pics!! i think it's an awesome idea! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 10, 2012, 11:21:20 PM
Here's my progress. :(

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/8909A02B-CDF8-4D97-B4C3-ADA4973D16B4-231-000000103D69A1CF.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 10, 2012, 11:22:27 PM
cool looking box! what's it do...death metal distortion? :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 11, 2012, 12:08:49 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 10, 2012, 11:22:27 PM
cool looking box! what's it do...death metal distortion? :icon_mrgreen:

It's a Constipated Delay.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 11, 2012, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: digi2t on October 11, 2012, 12:08:49 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 10, 2012, 11:22:27 PM
cool looking box! what's it do...death metal distortion? :icon_mrgreen:

It's a Constipated Delay.

It's more like I'm still thinking about what the heck I'm gonna do!  ???
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 11, 2012, 01:50:50 AM
That's hilarious, how many times did I think something to death?  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on October 11, 2012, 03:26:31 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 10, 2012, 10:51:59 PM
well, i know us JUDGES wanna see evidence anyways...so....

post them pics!! i think it's an awesome idea! ;)
please don't make that a rule. I'm finished and I don't have pics of the progress....
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 11, 2012, 04:18:26 AM
My progress so far.

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/Perrow_MLP/Random/Untitled.png)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 11, 2012, 10:26:29 AM
Well, okay, here's a shot of the stage mine's currently in ...

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9878279/Clearcoating.JPG?w=250)

Um apparently I can't resize that? Sorry for the giant picture.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 11, 2012, 10:31:30 AM
^1590a?   Of course  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 11, 2012, 12:35:06 PM
not an added rule, we can't add rules once the show's begun, this ain't american politics...  :icon_eek: :icon_evil: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 11, 2012, 01:25:48 PM
American politics:


"I'm telling you, PIO is the only way to go. Nothing after `52."   "Fine, but without NOS Soviet-made gold connectors for your OS/360, why bother?"
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQqxmr9_ugwFDyBv6fTZhUijeubP1o26zOOo-9XFVl5Eid8hR8lNg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 11, 2012, 02:13:08 PM
my head hurts.

my tummy hurts.

and politicians make my butt hurt.

nuff said,....onwards and upwards...

i like glastnost.

i love cheap russian germanium!! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 11, 2012, 07:57:14 PM
Still only 13 entries?  :icon_confused:
One more and you have a contest.  ;)
And more than half those entered will win something.  :o

And yes, my math is spot on.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 11, 2012, 08:09:08 PM
We need two more don't we?

Does the 13 include those who have purchase additional entries?  For example, I paid $20, so that counts as 2 of the 13 entries, correct?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 11, 2012, 08:16:28 PM
Okay. Here goes. If we reach the last hour for entries and still only have 14 I will put up the last 10 bux so this happens.
And enter nothing.
My way of giving something back to The Forum and all the good folks I have learned so much from.
And probably because I'm a total moron too.  :P
Whatever. I really want to help make this happen...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 11, 2012, 09:23:47 PM
Very nice of you to offer that Dave.

death metal distortion, constipated delay, I got a good laugh out of that  :D

Regarding the braille fuzz pcb, here's the story. Having no access to a laser printer to do a toner transfer for my mate to etch, I went back to my old methods. I marked the holes in the pcb with some PC-drawn artwork (that would have been the toner transfer artwork).

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/r8punchholes.jpg)

Then I tried to draw some pads on top of the marked holes.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/r8pcbpads.jpg)

Next up I drew in the tracks with the dalo pen, using the artwork as a guide. The pen has a big tip making it really difficult and ugly. I found some remains of some FeCl hidden in the bathroom cupboard, made up a mix and etched.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/r8etchedpcb.jpg)

I since read that a sharpie works well as an etch-resistant pen, and with a fine tip, it wouldn't be too hard to do a reasonably tidy job. Drilled the holes, mounted the components and it works fine. Unfortunately, on the artwork, I left out a couple of components that I thought I would not need, but I was wrong. I had to drill some more holes and squeeze in the extra parts...

I've basically finished the box but having trouble deciding on artwork/paint/finishing scheme. I polished the top to a mirror finish, sprayed it with clear acrylic and lost the shine. Applied inkjet waterslide and the black faded to dark grey with a mottled finish. Got the paint stripper out and took it back to bare metal and alodined it. Maybe I'll just leave it as is with minimal finishing, not sure.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/r8boxcomplete.jpg)

Having never tried to build a nice-looking pedal before, I had no idea of the talent on this forum that is showcased in the pictures thread.
It ain't as easy as it looks!  :D





Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 11, 2012, 09:29:26 PM
Where did you get that cool enclosure?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 11, 2012, 09:45:48 PM
Whoops!  Looks like you fixed the images at the same time that I reposted them. Thanks!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 11, 2012, 09:47:51 PM
Having a lot of trouble with the pics, photobucket is playing up. I made that box Dave, took me a long time, the 2 pieces are sanded and filed to fit each other. Got any cool ideas for finishing it? A relic'ed finish maybe?

Thanks John, I moved the pics from photobucket to dropbox. Dunno what was going on there...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 11, 2012, 09:52:50 PM
Nice job on building the box. Don't feel bad.  I'm all thumbs when it comes to finishing enclosures.  :icon_neutral:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 11, 2012, 09:53:28 PM
Quote from: Ronan on October 11, 2012, 09:47:51 PMI made that box Dave, took me a long time, the 2 pieces are sanded and filed to fit each other. Got any cool ideas for finishing it? A relic'ed finish maybe?
DIY enclosure. Nice work! Be sure to mention that in your video. :icon_cool: Ideas for finishing? Have a look/see at the Pictures section. Lots of great and different styles and techniques on display there.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 11, 2012, 10:47:40 PM
Wait, all we need is one more $10 entry, not necessarily a 15th contestant?

I "might" "end up with" a "second" board in that case, but it's not going in this enclosure!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 11, 2012, 11:02:26 PM
I just put in another 20 bucks. I hope this helps the forum, and this competition  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 11, 2012, 11:25:09 PM
what a school of gentlemen we have here, bravo y'all!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 11, 2012, 11:34:16 PM
Thanks to everyone who entered, especially those who ponied up more than one entry fee.  A new tally should show that we've got enough entries. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 12, 2012, 07:27:50 AM
Be sure to enter a build for each and every entry fee that you paid  ;D

Looking forward to some phenomenal pedals!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 12, 2012, 09:48:24 AM
So..... we have a contest? It's official?
That was like getting the cat in the box to go to the vet!
Good luck to all. Some great stuff to be won.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 12, 2012, 10:26:48 AM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on October 12, 2012, 09:48:24 AM
So..... we have a contest? It's official?

+1 Is it officially ummm....... official?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 12, 2012, 10:27:56 AM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on October 12, 2012, 09:48:24 AM
So..... we have a contest? It's official?
That was like getting the cat in the box to go to the vet!
Good luck to all. Some great stuff to be won.  :icon_cool:

So that's why he looks like that!    ;D

                             (http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/26C51AB7-8350-41F1-B5ED-95B18EE83D77-2375-0000028C94028E1E.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 12, 2012, 10:33:46 AM
Gotta wait for Aron to chime in with a tally for the entrants  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on October 12, 2012, 11:12:24 AM
I've just entered. It's a great forum and I have been lurking for a little too long - Hello everybody.
I have an overly ambitious idea for a reverb pedal that will probably not be done in time, but deadlines can be a good thing...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 12, 2012, 11:26:26 AM
Welcome aboard samhay  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 12, 2012, 11:38:01 AM
Welcome samhay!  Thanks for entering!  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 12, 2012, 02:01:06 PM
Welcome to the madness samhay. You are now going to become a diy addict. Go with it. Resistance is futile...
BTW, you have ~7 weeks to design, build and present your project. Still plenty of time for an ambitious build.
All the Best!
@John D: Yeah, I have that affect on most people.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: aron on October 12, 2012, 03:36:17 PM
16 Entries total. However not everyone has sent me their username. Please PM with your paypal name and username.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on October 12, 2012, 04:46:10 PM
Thanks for the welcome.
@oldschoolanalog: I have been building stompboxes, and the like, on-and-off for a while now. Not sure if it is an addiction or more of a chronic habit, but the results are near enough the same. Anyway, you're probably right, 7 weeks aught to be plenty of time.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 12, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
Here's a teaser ...
(http://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/diysb-contest-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 12, 2012, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on October 12, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
Here's a teaser ...
(http://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/diysb-contest-1.jpg)

Darnit- I was going to build the exact same pedal!   ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 13, 2012, 01:09:19 AM
all your pedals are belong to us... :icon_mrgreen:

man...about time we got enough people!! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 13, 2012, 03:29:13 AM
Quote from: midwayfair on October 12, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
Here's a teaser ...
(http://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/diysb-contest-1.jpg)

Man, i knew it! Finally your boxin up that evil rat klone! Gotcha!

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/div/evil%20rat.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 13, 2012, 05:35:42 AM
Nice to see that we finally got this sucker rubber side down.

Now I can say it;

Welcome! One and all, to the first annual Turkeyday Shootout!

:icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 13, 2012, 09:00:45 AM
first? <gulp>


:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:


:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 13, 2012, 09:30:30 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 13, 2012, 09:00:45 AM
first? <gulp>


:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:


:icon_mrgreen:

And we appreciate you hosting the Annual Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree contest for pedals that will be required to be constructed with one arm tied behind the builder's back (video evidence required).   :-*


;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 13, 2012, 09:35:26 AM
Quote from: Vallhagen on October 13, 2012, 03:29:13 AM
Quote from: midwayfair on October 12, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
Here's a teaser ...

Man, i knew it! Finally your boxin up that evil rat klone! Gotcha!


Hah!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 13, 2012, 12:13:37 PM
Quote from: Vallhagen on October 13, 2012, 03:29:13 AM
Man, i knew it! Finally your boxin up that evil rat klone! Gotcha!

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/div/evil%20rat.jpg)

Great. Now I have to build a RAT *just* so I can use this picture. :)

Here's teaser #2. ;)

(http://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/turkey-day-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 13, 2012, 12:57:09 PM
This is like strip tease! I think I saw a little chrome...

Thanks to the judges and gifters!!

I'll be out of town for almost all of November, so I might have to bow out, but if I can get my shiz together quick enough, I'm sure I can finish in time to loose legitimately. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 13, 2012, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: garcho on October 13, 2012, 12:57:09 PM
Thanks to the judges and gifters!!

This whole competition was meant to inspire the builders on this site AND to benefit the forum and Aron which I am personally grateful to. I am sure the other judges and gifters feel the same  ;D

Quote
I'll be out of town for almost all of November, so I might have to bow out, but if I can get my shiz together quick enough, I'm sure I can finish in time to loose legitimately. :)

Remember, there is NO deadline for submissions. Now that we know the competition is a GO, you can submit ANY TIME YOU WANT. Just be sure to post the required submission HERE FIRST.  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 13, 2012, 03:28:30 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on October 13, 2012, 09:30:30 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 13, 2012, 09:00:45 AM
first? <gulp>


:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:


:icon_mrgreen:

And we appreciate you hosting the Annual Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree contest for pedals that will be required to be constructed with one arm tied behind the builder's back (video evidence required).   :-*


;D


AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~~~!!!!!!


all i  can think of is my high school electronics teacher, mister kaminsky....

"you f***in' p* ckerheads....you need to put your left hand in your back pocket, or you'll learn why electricians make sailors blush"...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 13, 2012, 05:01:48 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on October 13, 2012, 03:07:34 PM

Remember, there is NO deadline for submissions. Now that we know the competition is a GO, you can submit ANY TIME YOU WANT. Just be sure to post the required submission HERE FIRST.  ;)

Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 15, 2012, 02:31:40 PM
HERE WE GO AGAIN!!

- The DEADLINE for complete submissions will be 23:59 on Thanksgiving Day (November 22nd 2012). You can submit your entry as early as you like. Just remember to make sure it is COMPLETE and according to the rules set forth above.

I think I know what you meant, but could you splain this, Lucy?   ???
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 13, 2012, 05:10:04 PM
OK... let me clarify....

If you are a contestant in the competition, you can enter/post your submission at ANY TIME BEFORE the end of the competition at 23:59 on November 22nd. Basically, you dont have to wait until the last day to submit your entry.

If you are done now, and you don't want to wait ...you can submit. Some other contestants have said they wont be available around the time the contest ends. I just want them to know that if they are done or will be done soon, they can submit it.

Good luck to all and remember.... there is still plenty of time to enter.  ;)

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 13, 2012, 07:21:31 PM
To FURTHER clarify...

Competition entries will be accepted up to but no later than the competition end time/date.

So if you really want to put pressure on yourself..... Pay your fee AND start a build on November 22nd as soon as you get up  :icon_eek:

Good Luck to all who enter  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 14, 2012, 12:23:16 AM
This is a story before the pictures. :)

A few weeks ago, I had counted up my all my pedal builds and realized that I would very soon hit #50. I knew I wanted to do something special, and the Turkey Day competition gave me added incentive to go beyond just soldering up a complicated project -- I considered doing a Deluxe Memory Man, which is my ultimate goal for the year -- and create something at least somewhat new.

The first pedal I ever tried to build was a Tremulus Lune. I'm not sure exactly why ... I knew almost nothing, though I did at least have a lead on finding parts (Smallbear!), and simply looked up a layout online. It was veroboard, and I'd never seen the stuff, so I tried faking it on perfboard. It didn't work of course (the remnants are still in my box of fail), and I also had no idea how to troubleshoot and my only tool to do so was an analog multimeter. That was in January ... I think I've learned quite a bit since then, mostly by building or breadboarding almost everything I could find and reading everything I could find about the effects as I made them. I still have a ways to go ... I haven't touched bucket brigade technology, and there are bits of filtering that are something of a mystery to me. Anyway, tremolos are still one of my favorite circuits to build. And since this was a milestone of sorts for me, I knew I wanted something with an LFO. So I started breadboarding some things, like a fuzz trem and some other weird stuff. But just making another tremolo didn't seem like anything special, especially after I realized it would be a contest entry.

Then I remembered RG Keen's "Vibromatic," which is an envelope circuit that kills the LFO of an EA Tremolo. That seemed promising. Then the next day, one of the forum members, HaveYouSeenHim, brought up the Magnavibe and sent a vero layout. I'd worked with another design descended from the Warbletron recently, Madbean's Quadrovibe, and remembered that it was easily converted to a tremolo design. I liked the sound of the Magnavibe on its own (it's a little milder than a univibe sound, really the kind of vibe I like), but there were some issues with the tremolo mode that I wanted to improve. So I decided to pair something similar to the Magnavibe with the Vibramatic.

These were my goals with what I created:
1) Since the circuit was descended from familiar DIY circuitry, I wanted it to be accessible to other DIYers. So no unobtanium parts. So no weird resistor or cap values -- just the stuff that most people will have in their bin.
2) No parts matching, biasing issues, etc. For the most part I succeeded in this one.
3) The circuit had to be as simple as possible while still sounding good.
4) Whatever I created had to be easily used in a live situation. So anything with 10 knobs and switches was out.

Here's what I ended up with:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9878279/Jon%20Patton%27s%20layouts/Nonmini%20builds/Blue%20Warbler%20Vibe%20schematic%201.2.png)
PDF here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9878279/Jon%20Patton%27s%20layouts/Nonmini%20builds/Blue%20warbler%20vibe%20schematic%201.2.pdf

Here's what it sounds like:


[EDIT 10/14/12: Published the annotations to the video.]

What's going on here

The audio path
This is very, very close to the Magnavibe's dry path, with the following changes: The gain has been increased to accommodate the signal split into the envelope circuitry, and the output caps have been changed to provide a slightly different voicing. The end result is pretty similar to the original, but there's more high end content remaining in Vibe mode and the warble is just a little different. The tremolo switch moves one of the LDR's legs from the buffered output to a series resistance between the two caps. This prevents any volume change between modes (except in the furthest CCW depth settings) and also prevents a really loud POP when switching over, which is an improvement over simply grounding the LDR, which is how I've seen it done in some other circuits related to the Wobbletron.

The volume trimmer will be set near max but was included to accommodate transistor gain variances.

The LFO

The LFO is, again, lifted from the Magnavibe, but that's just basically the LFO from the EA Tremolo with a different variable resistance element. I chose a BC547B/C because it softened the wave. It still gets plenty of wobble but sounds more natural on the tremolo setting. I added a series LED, swapped out the needlessly complicated "12K" depth and rate pots (25K with a parallel resistor) for more common values (increasing the rate pot value to ensure access to some slower settings). The LFO section is also electronically isolated from the audio path.

The Envelope

Although I started with RG's envelope, I went through a few more types of envelope circuits (the Nurse Quacky's, the Meatball's, and I even tried a couple compressor envelope/rectifier circuits, but they didn't work at all) and ended up with one that uses bits of some of them but looks and behaves a little differently from all of them. Specifically, this envelope circuit solved a few issues that others had in this specific circuit, like OP amp distortion/transistor sound from the input signal and some finickyness with the envelope actually triggering and altering the LFO. Some just killed the LFO in all settings. I also note that this one is mostly backwards ... the references voltages are in weird places. The transistor is a FET and is turned around backwards. 2N3904, the transistor in RG's envelope and the Nurse Quacky, didn't work; 2N5457 had the only completely reliable results, with all 30 I had on hand working as desired. And the LEDs are asymmetrical rather than matched like in some circuits (e.g. Nurse Quacky). I guess what I'm trying to say is, this is probably the only piece of circuitry I've ever used that might actually be unique, but who knows if it can be used in anything else. In any case, I'm very grateful to the people mentioned above for sharing their ideas and providing a starting framework.

The decay control should be set between ~10K and 50k. Lower settings may provide distortion. I believe it's actually the LEDs clipping, which is weird. My stock setting is 33K, which seems to provide the best balance and variety at any given sense setting, though hotter pickups may require a lower value. The 22nF cap was a good size to avoid too much rippling. (Credit goes to Mark Hammer for making this suggestion for the Nurse Quacky, and to Runoff Groove for noting this in their build doc.)

Note that there is no minimum setting on the Sensitivity control. This was done because some cool things can happen at both extremes, like the CW extreme killing the LFO except when playing, and the CCW extreme killing both the envelope and LFO. See the video for examples.

So after that novel, here's my official contest entry, the Blue Warbler Envelope Vibrato.
(http://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/blue-warbler-top.jpg?w=300)
(http://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/blue-warbler-front-right.jpg?w=400)(http://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/blue-warbler-upper-right.jpg?w=400)
(http://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/blue-warbler-lower-right.jpg?w=400)(http://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/blue-warbler-lower-left.jpg?w=400)
(http://jonpattonmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/blue-warbler-guts.jpg?w=400)

IT'S NOT A 1590A! SOUND THE ALARM! CALL THE GUARDS! FIND A PSYCHIATRIST! No, actually, remember rule #1 above? Most DIYers don't want anything to do with 1590As, so I decided to make it a comfortable fit for a 1590B. Here's the layout.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9878279/Jon%20Patton%27s%20layouts/Nonmini%20builds/Blue%20Warbler%20Vibe%201.2.png?w=400)
PDF: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9878279/Jon%20Patton%27s%20layouts/Nonmini%20builds/Blue%20warbler%20vibe%201.2.pdf

But, come on ... you know I had to. Here's the 1590A layout. (The only changes are no electronics isolation between the envelope, audio, and LFO circuits, but I didn't get any ticking even on the breadboard with no filtering at all.)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9878279/Jon%20Patton%27s%20layouts/Blue%20warbler%20mini%20layout%201.2.png)
PDF: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9878279/Jon%20Patton%27s%20layouts/Blue%20warbler%20mini%20layout%201.2.pdf

I was going to build this for my second entry fee (not as an extra entry, just for fun), but I got impatient. Rest assured, it will be soldered and boxed in the not too distant future. :D

Additional inspiration provided by: John Lyons (for his matching circuit boards). Additional thanks to Joshua McClarren (Gtr2/1776 Effects), who provided some insight and comments into curing the op-amp distortion issues. Hopefully I've provided adequate credit here, above, and in the schematic, but if anyone thinks I left out their contribution, please tell me.

And for good measure: total cost to build this was under $25.

DIYLC files are available upon request.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 14, 2012, 01:11:46 AM
That's great Jon.    A winner for sure. It puts my dinky lil project to shame :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 14, 2012, 01:19:28 AM
Thats insanely good! Sounds great! I didn't know such things existed, envelope-controlled vibra magna tremolo things.
Well done, and nice simple good-sounding circuit!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 14, 2012, 01:33:15 AM
Holy guacamole, Jon!  You've somehow out done yourself!  Thanks for setting the bar so high for the rest of us!!!  :icon_eek:

;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on October 14, 2012, 07:36:46 AM
Wow. Very nice job Jon.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 14, 2012, 08:40:00 AM
Nice "shot across the bow" to get things rolling Jon. That's what I call a contender. Having that well stocked liquor cabinet in the background really help hold my attention too. Nice touch.  :icon_mrgreen:

Might I add that all entrants might want to use this post, and your video, as a possible template. Very well executed. I came away fully content that I had a good grasp on the capabilities, as well as the sound, of this pedal. In my mind's ear, I could hear it's possible influence in my own rig. Bravo.

Well people... time for someone else to step up now, and lay one on the chin. :icon_cool:

EDIT - That envelope effect exists in the Ring Stinger, in Octave/LFO mode. The octave comes through on the initial attack, and then the LFO comes in through the back door. Your effect has the advantage of having hands-on control of the envelope, whereas the Ring Stinger is fixed with a trimmer. Bonus points.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on October 14, 2012, 08:43:36 AM
Chapeau!
That's a very nice entry!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 14, 2012, 11:55:05 AM
Wow, shakin in me boots.... beautiful entry Jon!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 14, 2012, 12:50:34 PM
Thanks for all the compliments, folks. As proud as I am of my entry, this sort of contest is the kind where I will cheer for everyone else to enter something even cooler!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 14, 2012, 04:09:55 PM
You're a good guy, Jon, and I'm certain that there will be stiff competition from the others.  These contests drive us to try new and daring twists and ideas as you have already demonstrated.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 14, 2012, 05:27:56 PM
WOW.
i just watched this twice.

well done, jon...and one hell of a big pair of shoes to fill already!! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 14, 2012, 07:50:54 PM
Sadly... I cannot YouTube here at work  :'(

Gonna have to see it tomorrow.

Can't wait after seeing the thread reviews  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on October 14, 2012, 08:57:34 PM
@jon:  thats a cool use of an envelope....nice work man!!!.. :icon_cool: :icon_cool: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 15, 2012, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on October 14, 2012, 12:50:34 PM
Thanks for all the compliments, folks. As proud as I am of my entry, this sort of contest is the kind where I will cheer for everyone else to enter something even cooler!  :icon_mrgreen:

A great build you have there, Jon! I'm impressed. Sounds great (useful, really), and looks beautiful.

****

Something is actually going on here too. Maybe i WILL be ready in time. To continue the theme of teeezzahs:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/Blue_Monster_draft1.JPG)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/002.JPG)

Cheers folks!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 15, 2012, 12:18:15 PM
this is gonna be one heck of a competition, methinks...

man...breadboards.

i have one, i never use it...never seem to be able to get anything to fly on it...do it on vero, suddenly it works.
oy...

makes my head hurt!!

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 15, 2012, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: Vallhagen on October 15, 2012, 12:14:08 PM
Something is actually going on here too. Maybe i WILL be ready in time. To continue the theme of teeezzahs:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/Blue_Monster_draft1.JPG)

IIIINTERESTING! I'll keep my speculation to myself, but seeing what's NOT on the breadboard had me rethinking my initial thoughts from the schematic section. Can't wait to see it!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 15, 2012, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on October 15, 2012, 12:36:46 PM

... but seeing what's NOT on the breadboard had me rethinking my initial thoughts from the schematic section. Can't wait to see it!

Well, as the picture was taken, the board was actually only 2/3 populated, so who knows, you maybe were right after all. Even though i cant tell;)

As i type exactly now, the board IS fully populated though ... and it is working! Heureka! And yes, i think i will box it just as it is. Back to the computer ... PCB design... Im glad there are some weeks til deadline. The circuit is (maybe too) ambitious for my EAGLE skills.

Cheers.

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 15, 2012, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 15, 2012, 12:18:15 PM

man...breadboards.

i have one, i never use it...never seem to be able to get anything to fly on it...do it on vero, suddenly it works.
oy...

Hehe.. i'm kinda the opposite to that. I dont like strip/vero/perf at all. When i finally got something running on the breadboard... then i must re-design everything to suite the vero, and that stage just ... no it doesn't suite me. I can "think" breadboard, but not vero. If you get what i mean. Another funny disadvantage of vero is that i tend to do bad solders on them too. It just dont "feel right". So... well... nope, they aren't my friends.

With that said, im very impressed by the stuff you ppl come up with on vero:)

Cheerio:)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 15, 2012, 01:54:32 PM
Breadboarding is my favorite thing about doing this! I have a ton of breadboard diagrams I've drawn, would that kind of thing be useful for anyone?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 15, 2012, 02:08:00 PM
I've never even tried the breadboard, so you're both way ahead of me  :(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 15, 2012, 04:17:47 PM
Breadboard = endless fun
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on October 16, 2012, 04:06:56 AM
Quote from: garcho on October 15, 2012, 04:17:47 PM
Breadboard = endless fun

^ indeed....i try everything on breadboard, nothing worse than building a nice tidy pcb, only to have to rip bits off and tweak after......... ;)

it takes longer, but you get what 'you' want in the end... 8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 16, 2012, 07:16:04 AM
I'm far too reluctant to break out the breadboard  :(

I've never really gotten started using it, I've tried a few times and had fun while doing it but I definitely need to improve my skills and lower my breadboarding anxiety. I've built my new BenchHorse (http://rumbust.net/tiki-index.php?page=BenchHorse) to do just that (that page is work in progress).

ps. Is there something wrong when you need the spell checker to spell 'definitely' but not 'anxiety'  ???
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 16, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
Quote from: Perrow on October 16, 2012, 07:16:04 AM
ps. Is there something wrong when you need the spell checker to spell 'definitely' but not 'anxiety'  ???

Definitely!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 16, 2012, 08:35:41 AM
But seriously folks, I use the breadboard when I want to try something new or if I'm tweaking a circuit. I normally don't breadboard projects that are tried and true. If I see that a bazillion people have successfully built an effect using a particular layout, it should work for me too.  The only thing that the breadboard would help me with on the tried and true builds would be if I were to grab a wrong part, but in those cases I just use my superhuman-component-removing powers to remove and replace the offending component without destroying the board.  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on October 16, 2012, 09:19:18 AM
@perrow:  DEATHUNATLEY

@jon:, i haven't got super human powers  ;D...i just build it right first time..................erm..............sometimes..  :D ;)


Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 16, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
Desoldering = tech nerd super power ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 16, 2012, 10:39:44 AM
I have developed very good desoldering skills since my circuits almost never work the first try  >:(  The beavisboard has been a godsend for me, but I think it's time I learned to breadboard......
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 16, 2012, 11:07:03 AM
believe me, i go thru miles and miles of desoldering braid, and own stock in solder suckers.  :icon_mrgreen:

every time i breadboard anything tho, i can never get anything to work right, and if by some weird circumstance i do, i get so much noise and crap it's hard to hear what it does.

maybe (probably) i'm an idiot.

i've destroyed a lot of veros over the years trying to fix things, and have gotten really good at REPAIRING lifted rails, and learned things...

like...NEVER "flow" the solder out onto the rail. it makes debugging impossible.
never use more solder than you absolutely need to.
always leave about a half inch of component leads sticking out the bottom til you're sure it works.
never forget to trim those very leads when you're done, either!!
socket ANYTHING suspect...diodes, caps, transistors, ic's..
don't use SIP sockets, better to cut up machined ic sockets (i get the 6 pin DIP sockets for cheap cuz nobody uses them and cut 'em in half)...sip sockets will FAIL.
use roach clips for heatsinks...and when ya get it working and are satisfied, solder components in (other than ic's)
stuff like that.

so... is solder really a food group?
;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 16, 2012, 11:15:51 AM
Quoteso... is solder really a food group

It is for cows!

No... wait, that fodder.

I'm going back to bed!

:icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 16, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
:D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on October 16, 2012, 01:26:19 PM
By far not as spectacular as the first entry but I try not to look to jealous :P


Juicy Pulptortion
aka OLC Orange Peel

Last year I "created" a layout for a Orange Peel pcb but never built one. For the 1000 Competition I built one on perf because I was... I don't know... as it turned out it was a studpid idea.
The box (http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=96870.msg862662#msg862662) is very sensitive regarding noise... because of all the cables e.g. near the jacks --> makes my ear bleed if I turn the trebble pot way up. So I gave the etched pcb version another shot (notice the typo  :icon_lol:):

(http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/normal_1.jpg) (http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/1.jpg)(http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/normal_2.jpg) (http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/2.jpg)
(http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/normal_3.jpg) (http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/3.jpg)(http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/normal_4.jpg) (http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/4.jpg)
(http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/normal_5.jpg) (http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/5.jpg)(http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/normal_6.jpg)

Got to order black bakelite knobs.

Layout:
(http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/normal_pulptortion_layout.png) (http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/24316/pulptortion_layout.png)

Etch it... the pdf (https://www.dropbox.com/s/dpoxm7emu3a97n4/pulptortion_pcb.pdf) (is it ok to put the original name of the pedal on the pcb?)

The layout is derived from the orange peel zip file on the other forum I'm not able to link to and the original buildguide (http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/9/25/1457713/olc_orangepeel_buildguide.pdf). The values are taken from the second link.
The relay bypass is taken from this  (http://forum.musikding.de/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=7471&d=1308395616)layout.

Short Video (https://www.dropbox.com/s/t0x9mf5q5id06na/pulp.avi), the evidence

Funny mp3 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ffh4820kz6ehgvc/simptortion.mp3) (Yes it's a TV theme through a stompbox)

Crappy mp3 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/o2f7198x6chd4sh/pulp.mp3)

Where the f* am I able to upload pics, videos and pdf files all at the same time? It's just inconvenient to have so many different places to upload your stuff.

Lesson learned:
- a half peeled orange is not very visible on unpainted surface as on a painted surface. Yes there is a peeled orange behind "Juicy Pulptortion".
- 1 or 2 mm more space between the two jacks and it should fit perfectly in the 125B enclosure.
- don't drill free-handed... the marks are accurate but your hand moves during the process of drilling!
- need bigger solder pads.
- don't use this layout anymore   :icon_lol:
- trim pots have to be accessible after the box is finished.

Conclusion:
Steal everything, put it in a nice enclosure and brag with it is the most advanced style of building stompboxes :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 16, 2012, 01:42:48 PM
How am I supposed to compete with that! :icon_mad:    LOL    Great job   I love the font and great etch   *two thumbs up*
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 16, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on October 16, 2012, 01:42:48 PM
How am I supposed to compete with that! :icon_mad:    LOL    Great job   I love the font and great etch   *two thumbs up*

I'll fight you for the lesser prizes (not that that's a shame in this comp), there simply can't be this build quality for all prize slots.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 16, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
The guts look super professional -- everything's board mounted and it's got a relay clickless bypass. That's awesome. Things are rolling now. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 16, 2012, 02:25:19 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on October 16, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
The guts look super professional -- everything's board mounted and it's got a relay clickless bypass. That's awesome. Things are rolling now. :)

Holy crap   I didn't even notice the bypass.     Top notch :icon_smile:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 16, 2012, 02:53:11 PM
Quote from: tuckster on October 16, 2012, 01:26:19 PM

Where the f* am I able to upload pics, videos and pdf files all at the same time? It's just inconvenient to have so many different places to upload your stuff.

Try Dropbox. I use it for everything: https://www.dropbox.com/
When you have installed it, it acts just like any folder on your computer. One subfolder is "public", there you can place anything you want to "share with anyone". Take a look at it:)

************

And...well... a very nice build you got there. Impressive design.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on October 16, 2012, 03:18:40 PM
Thank you guys!!!!

And I'm not ashamed to write trebble with two BB!!!  :icon_mrgreen:
I think I did this intentionally because this stompbox is able to put out ear bleeding highs so I had to write it down in an awesome way that everybody knows "Watch out! Lots of trebble".

Thank you for the hint whoever sent me the pm  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 16, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
we need video/audio!!!

looks freekin' great, really nice job!!!

man...the first two entries are sending a MESSAGE i think...

look forward to the rest!! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 16, 2012, 04:08:10 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 16, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
we need video/audio!!!

looks freekin' great, really nice job!!!

man...the first two entries are sending a MESSAGE i think...

look forward to the rest!! ;)

Absolutely bro! Looks like pre-emptive stikes to me!

Can't wait to see what else comes down the pipe.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 16, 2012, 04:11:44 PM
I have a feeling folks are really going to up their game after seeing the first 2 entries. Nice work guys!
This is going to be one tough contest to judge...  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on October 16, 2012, 04:28:29 PM
Don't worry I'll be lowering the bar soon with my entry.
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 16, 2012, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: slacker on October 16, 2012, 04:28:29 PM
Don't worry I'll be lowering the bar soon with my entry.
Ha!  :icon_lol: Somehow I seriously doubt this having seen your work...
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 16, 2012, 04:34:49 PM
Quote from: slacker on October 16, 2012, 04:28:29 PM
Don't worry I'll be lowering the bar soon with my entry.

Looking forward to it  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 16, 2012, 04:39:46 PM
My entry will take a lil while as I'm forced to start from scratch with my own design .    Thanks to Rob :icon_mrgreen:  :icon_razz:   I like your design but it refused to be tamed and contained in a wah shell.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 16, 2012, 09:19:26 PM
Nice job, Tuckster!  Personally, I liked the orange knobs! :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 16, 2012, 11:53:54 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on October 16, 2012, 09:19:26 PM
Nice job, Tuckster!  Personally, I liked the orange knobs! :)
+1 I love the orange knobs too. Really nice looking entry tuckster, very pro looking!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on October 17, 2012, 04:07:19 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on October 16, 2012, 04:39:46 PM
My entry will take a lil while as I'm forced to start from scratch with my own design .    Thanks to Rob :icon_mrgreen:  :icon_razz:   I like your design but it refused to be tamed and contained in a wah shell.

:icon_eek: don't blame me for your shoddy work you b......d   :D :icon_mrgreen: ;D :D
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 17, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
Quote from: deadastronaut on October 17, 2012, 04:07:19 AM
:icon_eek: don't blame me for your shoddy work you b......d   :D :icon_mrgreen: ;D :D

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was gonna blame you.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 17, 2012, 06:29:12 PM
ok, me boyos, this will give you a taste of the xp all

you, yes, YOU can WIN ONE OF THESE!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 17, 2012, 07:29:08 PM
Great demo and pedal!  Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 17, 2012, 08:05:12 PM
Yeah, great video Jimi! Thanks for posting that  :icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 17, 2012, 08:11:20 PM
thanks guys, good luck, one of you is gonna own one of these monsters soon!!

maybe we should let the forum know... or maybe we should keep the odds better for you guys that are here! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 17, 2012, 08:17:44 PM
Great demo Jimi!

Love the guitar face throughout the video  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 17, 2012, 08:34:25 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on October 17, 2012, 08:17:44 PM
Great demo Jimi!

Love the guitar face throughout the video  ;D
Lol  I liked it too.     A few baby poopy faces and a few O faces :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 17, 2012, 08:37:12 PM
:D

lol....

get crackin' an win one!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on October 18, 2012, 05:02:17 AM
^ love those swell patches...very stoner... 8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 18, 2012, 05:04:19 AM
Hey, d'Astro 5555 posts, that's cool, stop posting now, don't mess that up  :P
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on October 18, 2012, 05:10:44 AM
ok i won't.....oh f.... ::)

that many posts is a true testament of how dumb i am......without the sausage/barbara related posts it woul probably be just 24... ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: ~arph on October 18, 2012, 08:58:01 AM
Quote from: tuckster on October 16, 2012, 01:26:19 PM

Short Video (https://www.dropbox.com/s/t0x9mf5q5id06na/pulp.avi), the evidence

+1 for Dinosaur Jr.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 18, 2012, 09:22:13 AM
seems to fit my modus operandi perfectly, lol, being one...  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: ~arph on October 18, 2012, 09:47:18 AM
Btw, that envelope triggered vibrato/tremolo sounds awesome!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on October 18, 2012, 10:26:46 PM
Just paid my fee.  Nothin like waiting till the last day to enter to git r dun. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 19, 2012, 12:11:18 AM
Welcome to the party defaced  :icon_smile:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 19, 2012, 05:32:36 AM
I've just started a layout rework, known circuit that could use an alternative layout, but boy, there's 40'ish components, not a lot of space and constraints on the placements of certain things, I've got my work laid out for me.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 19, 2012, 08:55:13 AM
Quote from: Perrow on October 19, 2012, 05:32:36 AM
I've just started a layout rework, known circuit that could use an alternative layout, but boy, there's 40'ish components, not a lot of space and constraints on the placements of certain things, I've got my work laid out for me.
"You vill complete zees by zee deadline!" (Sound of whip cracking...)  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 19, 2012, 09:42:20 AM
Quote from: Perrow on October 19, 2012, 05:32:36 AM
I've just started a layout rework, known circuit that could use an alternative layout, but boy, there's 40'ish components, not a lot of space and constraints on the placements of certain things, I've got my work laid out for me.

Reading this brought a tear to my eye... :'(






;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 19, 2012, 12:07:37 PM
Quotenot a lot of space and constraints on the placements of certain things, I've got my work laid out for me.

this ain't the 1590A contest! I hope mine fits in a BB. Hell, I hope I actually build mine in time.   :D

Ordered some F4 on ebay, then noticed the seller was out of town until November. Slow down dumb a$$!   >:(
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 19, 2012, 12:35:20 PM
It's not a 1590A, but choices made puts constraints on where on board components are as well as where I place connections to off board components, I've done some work on it and things start to fall into place :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 20, 2012, 12:32:55 AM
Quote from: Perrow on October 19, 2012, 05:32:36 AM
I've just started a layout rework, known circuit that could use an alternative layout, but boy, there's 40'ish components, not a lot of space and constraints on the placements of certain things, I've got my work laid out for me.

Over the last 10 months or so, I have come to this conclusion:

In order to become good at doing layouts, you must first become a master at doing bad layouts.

I'm still working on the second part  :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 20, 2012, 12:44:45 AM
What's a layout?  ???
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 20, 2012, 01:57:24 AM
Quote from: pakrat on October 20, 2012, 12:44:45 AM
What's a layout?  ???


:icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 20, 2012, 02:08:25 AM
Quote from: pakrat on October 20, 2012, 12:44:45 AM
What's a layout?  ???

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/DE6BDB48-324F-4A92-8D67-D643E8DA04FC-12822-00000C45661103A0.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 20, 2012, 02:32:12 AM
^ He didn't ask what a weekend looks like at John's house  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 20, 2012, 03:23:40 AM
Ha ha!  I wish!  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 20, 2012, 03:48:00 AM
QuoteIn order to become good at doing layouts, you must first become a master at doing bad layouts.

I'm a student of crappy layout-ing. One project I've been working off and on for months. Still, I find it one of the most rewarding elements of DIY electronics. Hope to see lots more layouts in this contest, including my own if I can get 'er done.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 20, 2012, 03:53:22 AM
Quote from: garcho on October 20, 2012, 03:48:00 AM
QuoteIn order to become good at doing layouts, you must first become a master at doing bad layouts.

I'm a student of crappy layout-ing. One project I've been working off and on for months. Still, I find it one of the most rewarding elements of DIY electronics. Hope to see lots more layouts in this contest, including my own if I can get 'er done.

At least one of yours will make it into the contest. ;) I start my final assembly first thing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 20, 2012, 04:34:45 AM
One of my bad layouts, in fact I think this is the one I'm using for this comp, well not quite, I tried to draw a copy of this with a pen, but this is what I would have used if I had access to a laser printer, notice the missing fillets on some of the t-pieces, I need to fix that up.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/Layout1.GIF)

Final assembly Mike? Tomorrow I hope to drill some holes to allow some sort of assembly.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 20, 2012, 04:52:26 AM
^ That's way better than I'll ever do. I don't have a good brain for making layouts. I'm ridiculously scatterbrained. I don't know how I became a maker(By maker I mean I make everything) since I've always been in 'special' classes in school and I dropped out after the eighth grade. I cant learn what others tell me I have to learn. I have an insatiable thirst for knowledge, but on my own terms.

Ok, after an unnecessary tangent, but yea, I started on my project the day the contest was announced. I did one build but it didn't work out and this is the second one. not to mention the decimator and golden voice chorus in a 1590a. I have way too much free time
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 20, 2012, 05:03:52 AM
Well that pic is just the intended design, the actual pcb manifestation that resulted from that is fairly gross, but working solidly.

I have other major weaknesses in building "A Total Package", funny how entering a comp makes me scrutinize my strengths and weaknesses, never even thought about it before, everything was just fine before...  :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 20, 2012, 09:37:00 AM
At this point, I don't even know how you guys make these layouts. I have tried with really small circuits and it's never a good turnout. There's some really talented people in this forum for sure.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 20, 2012, 09:40:49 AM
you guys are doing great.

wanna talk crappy layouts, you should see my veros. the GOOD looking ones NEVER WORK and end up being debugged so much they look like VERY VERY BAD ONES!

but if it sounds good? who cares? imprison it in a metal box for a life sentence, and abuse it til it dies, i say i did :o :icon_biggrin: ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 20, 2012, 10:55:58 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 20, 2012, 09:40:49 AM
but if it sounds good? who cares? imprison it in a metal box for a life sentence, and abuse it til it dies, i say i did :o :icon_biggrin: ;D
Well said  :icon_smile:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 20, 2012, 01:34:36 PM
I've got to look it over one more time before etching, but it looks good so far :)

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/Perrow_MLP/Random/TurkeyLayout.png)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 20, 2012, 01:58:19 PM
boy, you know how to keep an a$$h073 in suspense...
~an a$$h073
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 20, 2012, 03:44:42 PM
Curvey!  :o
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 20, 2012, 03:52:06 PM
Quote from: garcho on October 20, 2012, 03:44:42 PM
Curvey!  :o

I know, right.  My first thought was  ''mmmm, sexy curves''     I think I need to take a break from stompboxes for a while :icon_eek:


EDIT    I will have pictures of my finished entry later today and sound clips+ video in the coming days
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 20, 2012, 04:54:43 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 20, 2012, 01:58:19 PM
boy, you know how to keep an a$$h073 in suspense...
~an a$$h073

Well, I've just completed the layout, I'll etch it tomorrow, build it this week, and hopefully have it boxed week after that.

And no, I've not built forty pedals since the page 1000 comp ;)

That reminds me, I've got a couple of videos in this here thread that I haven't watched yet, at least one of them from you. Now I got to print that layout so I have something to stick under (or over as it is) my UV lamp tomorrow.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 20, 2012, 05:38:36 PM
:D

well, maybe closer to fifty at this point. a LOT of fuzzface variants lately.

seriously. i need a life..lol
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: davent on October 20, 2012, 05:58:53 PM
Quote from: Perrow on October 20, 2012, 01:34:36 PM
I've got to look it over one more time before etching, but it looks good so far :)

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/Perrow_MLP/Random/TurkeyLayout.png)

That is a great looking layout! What's the software you're using?

dave
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 20, 2012, 07:03:30 PM
^ +1. Corel draw perhaps? Makes my layout look like something out of the stone age :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 20, 2012, 09:57:25 PM
It's DONE!   This is my shootout entry. I present to you The Frankenstein Pulse Wahwahwahwahwahwah 

A special thanks to Jdansti, Garcho, and Midwayfair for helping out. That's why this forum is great. Even in a competition we come together to help each other. Viva la DIYSB!

I will have video and sound Tuesday or Wednesday.

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07807.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07808.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07810.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07805.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07814.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07815.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07817.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07816.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 20, 2012, 10:15:18 PM
Dude, that's solid! More details! :)

Is the treadle just the depth or speed, or can it do other things?

Really glad you got your original idea working. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 20, 2012, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on October 20, 2012, 10:15:18 PM
Dude, that's solid! More details! :)

Is the treadle just the depth or speed, or can it do other things?

Really glad you got your original idea working. :)

The treadle works as a pseudo mix control. Forward is dry and back is wet. And it can switch between pulse and regular wah. It consists of the colorsound inductorless wah and the lfo from the shoot the moon. More details will be explained on the video ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 20, 2012, 10:46:34 PM
Wow!  Nice job on the build and the original design. Can't wait to hear it!  The small board on the pots is a great idea too!  A definite contender!  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 20, 2012, 11:47:39 PM
Really nice! You should be proud of that one.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 21, 2012, 04:01:05 AM
Bravo! Diggin' this contest!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 21, 2012, 04:11:10 AM
Thanks guys  :) 

Here's some before pics       My angle grinder made quick work of the vox logo ;D

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07765.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07766-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 21, 2012, 04:29:23 AM
Mike, thats fantastic! Looks like very dark metallic blue, my fav colour.

I am seriously going to have to lift my act!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 21, 2012, 05:05:43 AM
Quote from: Ronan on October 21, 2012, 04:29:23 AM
Mike, thats fantastic! Looks like very dark metallic blue, my fav colour.

I am seriously going to have to lift my act!
It's actually Black metal flake and silver metal flake. I think those two colors work really good together. Thanks for the complement.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on October 21, 2012, 05:19:19 AM
Woooaaah this is so nice and shiny!
Is that sandpaper on the top?
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 21, 2012, 05:52:18 AM
Quote from: Ronan on October 20, 2012, 07:03:30 PM
^ +1. Corel draw perhaps? Makes my layout look like something out of the stone age :D

DIYLC V3, and some serious use of curved traces ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 21, 2012, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: tuckster on October 21, 2012, 05:19:19 AM
Woooaaah this is so nice and shiny!
Is that sandpaper on the top?

It's silver lacquered grip tape left over from my skate days.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 21, 2012, 09:50:59 PM

At the behest of some forumites, I am re-listing the prize pool for those of you who have joined us late  ;D

PRIZES:

Prizes will be awarded in order of ranking. Basically, when all of the entries are judged, they will be given a final score. The 8 highest scores will be deemed the winners. The winner with the highest score will have his/her choice of prizes from the pool. When that person chooses then the next highest scoring winner will have their choice of the remaining prizes, and so on until the final winner (8th place) will receive the remaining prize.

Prize#1 -- $25 in credit to Smallbear electronics w/ free shipping. Courtesy of Steve.
Prize#2 – Custom Vocalizer pedal build shipped to winner. Courtesy of Digi2t.
Prize#3 – Custom Digitech XP ALL (XP 100, 200, 300, and 400 in one box! And you don't have to power it down to switch effects!!!) Shipped to winner. Courtesy of Govmnt_Lacky.
Prize#4 – Custom "Stupid Pedal Tricks" Pedal shipped to winner. Courtesy of pinkjimiphoton.
Prize#5 – Store credit to DIYStomp store in the amount of the entry fees (minus shipping costs). Courtesy of the entrants and Aron.
Prize#6 -- A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs from JMK PCBs shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Jacob
Prize#7 -- $50 in store credit to madbeanpedals. Courtesy of Brian "bean"
Prize#8 -- Grab bag of "Modulation Junkie" build parts to include: (2)TL072, (2)MN3007, (2)MN3101, (2)V3205, (2)V3102, and (20)2N5952 shipped to the winner in accordance with the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Dave "oldschoolanalog"

ALL OF THE 8 WINNERS WILL RECEIVE A LARGE (Sorry folks... Large is the ONLY size available) DIYSTOMPBOXES T-SHIRT COURTESY OF ARON AND DIYSTOMPBOXES.COM.

Deadline for entry fees and submissions are the same as the Contest end date which is 23:59 on Turkey Day... November 22nd.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL WHO ENTER!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on October 22, 2012, 10:18:48 AM
Quote from: pakrat on October 19, 2012, 12:11:18 AM
Welcome to the party defaced  :icon_smile:
Thanks!  So far this is lookin like a killer party.  So here's my little teaser installment.  This is the prototype of the circuit I had to get working before I committed to entering the comp.  Good thing I prototyped it too, the footprint for the regulator was wrong.   

(http://imageshack.us/a/img37/9090/defacedproto.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 22, 2012, 10:31:21 AM
this is getting cooler by the day! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 22, 2012, 11:02:21 AM
Macy's is having a sale on towels if anyone wants to take a ride with me......
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 22, 2012, 12:27:58 PM
have fun. grab me some pumps. size 14, EEE :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 22, 2012, 04:24:42 PM
Towels? I'm not chickening out of this competition!

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/Perrow_MLP/Random/TurkeyPCB.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 22, 2012, 05:10:17 PM
^Nice :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 22, 2012, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 22, 2012, 12:27:58 PM
have fun. grab me some pumps. size 14, EEE :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Thanks for that image, Jimi... :icon_eek:


;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 22, 2012, 06:32:03 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on October 22, 2012, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 22, 2012, 12:27:58 PM
have fun. grab me some pumps. size 14, EEE :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
Thanks for that image, Jimi... :icon_eek: ;D
Big pink in pumps. I will never be the same again...   :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on October 22, 2012, 06:44:15 PM
My PC died the other day, so I've gone old skool with the layout :)
Couple of errors to fix but it's built and works.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/23/u3ubybyz.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 22, 2012, 06:53:51 PM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on October 22, 2012, 06:32:03 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on October 22, 2012, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on October 22, 2012, 12:27:58 PM
have fun. grab me some pumps. size 14, EEE :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
Thanks for that image, Jimi... :icon_eek: ;D
Big pink in pumps. I will never be the same again...   :icon_lol:

i can rock dat %h*^
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 22, 2012, 10:31:16 PM
Old school is the only school!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 22, 2012, 10:55:46 PM
True dat  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 23, 2012, 12:55:18 AM
Here's my teaser.

This is a portion of a modded $:@^#*€~.  This circuit is a prototype of a DIYSB forum group design, and I think I've overcome a couple of issues with it. I'll update that thread when I submit it for the contest.

I think I've got it tweaked where I want it, but I'll listen to it tomorrow with fresh ears to make sure. I won't have to breadboard the rest of the circuit, so I should be able to get a PCB layout done soon.

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/3A4FCE24-6CF7-446D-A52E-8D6BE62C664C-16812-000010556C0FE11E.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 23, 2012, 11:23:11 AM
Ok, I'm too impatient so here's the raw demo footage. We mic'd a cab and recorded during this video. So later we are going to patch the recording on to the video for better sound quality and voice over to explain the controls and what we're doing. My buddy Fish did all of the playing and foot modeling  :D   

The first video is clean channel and the second is the dirt channel




Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 23, 2012, 11:53:39 AM
nice pedicure, mike!!

if you offset the videos by about 32 seconds, they sound pretty cool at the same time...

:icon_eek:

i love it!!! sounds great!!! gonna need a schematic!! i gotta spare crybaby shell, i think...

oh yeah, forgot, i'm a judge...

<must get stuffy>

"please submit the requisite gut shots and schematics for the entry submitted, so we can see all the info required to build one for the community"...


well done!! nice, i think i want some of that...

~dewey pink, breathing hard...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on October 23, 2012, 12:00:49 PM
That's a great sounding pedal Mike, lotsa useable stuff there. Too bad one of the prizes isn't a pair of shoes for your buddy Fish  ;D 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 23, 2012, 12:10:25 PM
@jimi   Thanks for the complement  :D   

@pakrat Lol   I told him to take his shoes off to reduce the chance of chipping any paint because I'm having a buddy take some professional pics of it in a few days. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 23, 2012, 12:31:38 PM
 :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 23, 2012, 04:05:27 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 23, 2012, 06:13:24 PM
Sounds as great as it looks, Mike!  Well done! ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 23, 2012, 06:26:31 PM
Nice job Mike! :icon_cool:
Looks like things are starting to heat up around here...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 24, 2012, 05:26:35 AM
^ +1

2 days ago I found an intriguing circuit from the modular synth world, so I will give that a go. Otherwise its back to Plan A, which is built and tested but not boxed up.

Pelle, I did not see that Turkey on your previous overlay, is one of them a decoy?  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on October 24, 2012, 07:14:59 AM
Mike: hehe very nice and I have to say that this is much cooler than always showing socks.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 24, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Man! This looks like it's gonna be a hot one!  :icon_eek:

Just so you all know, when Greg drew up the score sheet, each catagory was based on a 0 - 5 point spread. When he presented it to Jimi and myself, I requested that the points be based on a 0 - 10 spread. Knowing the talent on tap here, I figured 5 points was just too tough to split in a tight race.

Now I'm wondering if 10 points is going to do the job.  ???

Maybe I'll break it down to tenths as well.  :icon_lol:

Seriously though, smashing work so far. Even my girlfriend, who hasn't one iota of knowledge insofar as this stuff is concerned, has been really impressed by the workmanship displayed so far. You guys are really making the judging tough.

Good on ya!! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 24, 2012, 08:55:43 AM
One request for contest submissions...

Please submit ALL of the required info, videos, layouts, etc. in a single post.

This will help when the judging occurs. This way, the judges dont have to search the entire thread for piece parts of submissions.

Thanks and GOOD LUCK TO ALL WHO ENTER!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 24, 2012, 09:59:43 AM
Quote from: Ronan on October 24, 2012, 05:26:35 AM
Pelle, I did not see that Turkey on your previous overlay, is one of them a decoy?  :)

One of them is a competition entry and one is the overlay I'll publish. Don't think everyone will want a turkey build. Regretfully the copper side of the board is hidden in the finished build (i.e. will be hidden).

I've drilled the enclosure, tested that everything will fit and got a coat of primer on, hopefully I'll get the paint on tonight and a water slide tomorrow.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 24, 2012, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on October 24, 2012, 08:55:43 AM
One request for contest submissions...

Please submit ALL of the required info, videos, layouts, etc. in a single post.

This will help when the judging occurs. This way, the judges dont have to search the entire thread for piece parts of submissions.

Thanks and GOOD LUCK TO ALL WHO ENTER!!!  ;D

After I get the sound samples together, I'll make a new post with everything.

Is posting the layout is a requirement?    I kinda just mashed up a couple layouts and did some improvising to get what I want. Plus my computer can't handle DIYLC. It freezes up with it constantly.

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 24, 2012, 04:55:42 PM
... a few steps closer  :)

This is - by far - my most ambitious homedesigned/-etched project so far. Im not even sure it will fit in a BB. Yep, this is fun!

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/003.JPG)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 24, 2012, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on October 23, 2012, 11:23:11 AM



Great toy you have there! Impressing effect sound, awesome look!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 24, 2012, 06:21:39 PM
@ Vallhagen: Hmm... I sense some sort of delay w/"features" going on here...  ;)
Nice etching job BTW!  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 24, 2012, 08:13:47 PM
RULES CLARIFICATION REGARDING LAYOUTS:

You DO NOT HAVE TO provide a layout with your submission. If you create a custom layout you can choose not to include it with your submission HOWEVER, bonus points will be given to those who submit custom layouts.

If you use another "person's" layout either in full OR in part.... You MUST credit the original layout designer if known.

Example: if you build a modified Phase 90 and tweaked the Tonepad layout to do something different or better, you MUST credit Tonepad as the original layout creator.

If you do not know whether your custom layout is custom enough (I.e. you based it on another layout) then play it safe and credit the originator just in case.

We don't want any sore forumites or cranky circuit designers   ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 24, 2012, 08:36:40 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on October 24, 2012, 08:13:47 PM
bonus points will be given to those who submit custom layouts.

I guess I'll go fire up the ole dumpster computer and install DIYLC :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on October 24, 2012, 11:07:27 PM
Ok, that pulse wah looks like a fun pedal to play.  I don't know if I could find a use for it in my typical genre of music, but it certainly sounds cool. 

Quote... a few steps closer  Smiley

This is - by far - my most ambitious homedesigned/-etched project so far. Im not even sure it will fit in a BB. Yep, this is fun!
That is a killer looking etch.  I've had to re-vamp my etching procedure for the project I'm working on for this comp and I hope like hell it looks half as good as that.  Bravo on superb quality fine sir. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on October 25, 2012, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: Vallhagen on October 24, 2012, 04:55:42 PM
... a few steps closer  :)

This is - by far - my most ambitious homedesigned/-etched project so far. Im not even sure it will fit in a BB. Yep, this is fun!

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/003.JPG)

That's a fine-looking board. And a lot of IC pins!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 26, 2012, 06:45:12 AM
Thanx for your encouragement, guys:). I am really happy about how the etch turned out. I have made some... 5-8 etched boards so far, simpler circuits, and i am getting better at doing it!

Yep... indeed a lot of IC pins in there. 2*14 pins, 1*16 pins and 1*8 pins. Hehe... makes me a bit nervous to drill. its a critical moment.

And nope, its not a delay... what it is ... well i'll tell when its up and running. if it will start up at all...

Right now i ponder (correct word?) about if i shall put it all together this weekend with my cheaper breadboard electronics, or to wait til monday, when the fullquality stuff arrive. Maybe i shall build two; one with brown carbon resistors and "greenie caps", and one with metal film resistors and panasonic caps. Just to convince myself that there will be no difference at all (or "no important difference"). Because i dont think it will. There are some matched filters in there though, and they may be more happy if built up with low tolerance stuff.

Cheers!

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 26, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
>Right now i ponder (correct word?)<
Good word. In fact, your command of the English language is better than most adults here in the USA.  :icon_cool:
>...or to wait til monday, when the fullquality stuff arrive.<
Wait for the "good stuff". Even if it doesn't sound better it will look prettier.  ;D
In theory tighter tolerances make for better filters. However; as many of us have discovered; this is not always the case in the "listening test".
I say build both and enter the one that sounds better. Remember, an important part of the judging process will be how it sounds.
Good luck and happy soldering!

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on October 26, 2012, 09:50:50 AM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on October 26, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
...
Wait for the "good stuff". Even if it doesn't sound better it will look prettier.  ;D
In theory tighter tolerances make for better [...]


Yea... after all, i HAVE orderred parts for this specific project.

Thanx:)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 26, 2012, 12:51:27 PM
@ haveyouseenhim - Please don't forget to post the schematic, layout, cave drawing, or whatever.

I'm marking your pedal right now, and the lack of info here is putting a crimp on your score.

TO ALL PARTICIPANTS:
Please wait until you have ALL your info, video, etc. done and ready. Please post everything on one post please. It makes judging easier, and avoids me having to leaf through pages to make sure that I didn't miss anything.

I just don't want anybody's score to suffer because some tidbit of information getting buried.

All I can say right now, is that it's very tight score wise. Giving the benefit of the doubt to Mike, on a 130 total point scale, there's only a 4 point spread between our first three contestants on my score sheets.

So far, it's tighter than a frogs ass. I love it! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 26, 2012, 01:55:06 PM
i too must reiterate what my learned brothers have stated...

please adhere to the guidelines  of the contest when submitting entries. we're fairly liberal, but presentation is as big a part as most other aspects, so please indeed keep ALL entry related info on one post, because it will be very hard to surf thru 90 pages of fun and entertaining commentary to find the entry related posts.

please help us out friends, we're being nice guys giving stuff away, so don't break our stones too bad. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 26, 2012, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: digi2t on October 26, 2012, 12:51:27 PM
@ haveyouseenhim - Please don't forget to post the schematic, layout, cave drawing, or whatever.

I'm marking your pedal right now, and the lack of info here is putting a crimp on your score.


Please wait to do that. :icon_eek: I'm working on the layout and I'm preparing quality sound clips. I will make a new post with everything included.


EDIT    also I didn't know the judging would start so early.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 26, 2012, 05:53:28 PM
@Mike

Judging can be done as soon as an entry is submitted and it is up to each judge when and how they judge.  ;D

As for me, I haven't judged a single entry.  :icon_eek:

I like to procrastinate though  8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 26, 2012, 10:32:18 PM
guilty, too.

i wanna see 'em em all before i judge. but then, i suck. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 27, 2012, 05:50:49 AM
I have them all marked so far. Except for Mike, whose missing a score.

I don't feel like waiting to the end, because then I'm going to feel like a cat in a dog pound, having to judge all of them at once. I figure if I give them all scores now, when they're fresh, then all I have to do is go back at the end, and do a quick fly by to make sure that all the scores are justified. Probably have to make small adjustments, but all the hard work will be done.

That's why I keep all the score sheets in Excel book to. Makes flipping between pedals easy to see what I gave who, and think about why.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 29, 2012, 06:10:50 PM
gettin' a little closer...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8048/8136410923_7b74192a71.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 29, 2012, 06:14:10 PM
mmm, tomatoe-y
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 29, 2012, 08:08:23 PM
What's the best/easiest way to post an mp3 file? I'm about to do my full entry post but I've never posted mp3s here.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 29, 2012, 08:16:17 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on October 29, 2012, 08:08:23 PM
What's the best/easiest way to post an mp3 file? I'm about to do my full entry post but I've never posted mp3s here.

I use Soundclick, it's free. It's like posting a pic. Lots of services available, Google is your friend. Find a service that suits you, sign up, and upload. Then, post the link here.

Easy peasy.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 29, 2012, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: digi2t on October 29, 2012, 08:16:17 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on October 29, 2012, 08:08:23 PM
What's the best/easiest way to post an mp3 file? I'm about to do my full entry post but I've never posted mp3s here.

Google is your friend.
Easy peasy.

:icon_redface:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 29, 2012, 10:31:25 PM
Here's my official entry post. I got excited about being done and jumped the gun on posting before I had everything together :icon_redface:   Some of this is copy-paste of my posts but I just want to put everything in one post.


It's DONE!   This is my shootout entry. I present to you The Frankenstein Pulse Wahwahwahwahwahwah 

A special thanks to Jdansti, Garcho, and Midwayfair for helping out. That's why this forum is great. Even in a competition we come together to help each other. Viva la DIYSB!

I will have video and sound Tuesday or Wednesday.

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07807.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07808.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07810.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07805.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07814.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07815.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07817.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07816.jpg)

Here's the before pics. It was a Vox v847 gutted and ground down.

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07765.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07766-1.jpg)

My buddy Fish did all of the playing and foot modeling   :D   
The first video is clean channel and the second is the dirt channel.





Here's the layout I finally managed to put together.

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/Pulsewahlayoutpic-1.gif)

And finally the sound clip.

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11971115











Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 30, 2012, 08:56:09 AM
Nice Mike!  8)
Could you please post a schematic for those of us that don't "speak in vero"?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 30, 2012, 10:16:01 AM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on October 30, 2012, 08:56:09 AM
Nice Mike!  8)
Could you please post a schematic for those of us that don't "speak in vero"?
Thanks.

Yo no hablo vero!

:o

:icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 30, 2012, 10:17:36 AM
 :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 30, 2012, 12:23:34 PM
I'll draw up a schematic when I have time later or in the coming days.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on October 30, 2012, 06:07:00 PM
damn, i think i felt a little "wiggle" down there!! nice!!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 31, 2012, 03:18:17 AM
What is an easy free schematic drawing program? I've never drawn a schematic so it needs to be easy to use. I tried googling but all I have found are trial versions for programs that you have to pay for.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on October 31, 2012, 04:18:01 AM
If you can draw one by hand and photograph it I'm sure that would be fine, or send it to me and I'll draw it up for you, since I'm on holidays and have the time. I use MS Paint so it won't be very fancy.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on October 31, 2012, 08:14:49 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on October 31, 2012, 03:18:17 AM
What is an easy free schematic drawing program? I've never drawn a schematic so it needs to be easy to use. I tried googling but all I have found are trial versions for programs that you have to pay for.

I use TinyCAD. Has all the symbols you'll need, and it's fairly easy to use. Oh yeah... best of all, it's free.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 31, 2012, 08:31:14 AM
Quote from: digi2t on October 31, 2012, 08:14:49 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on October 31, 2012, 03:18:17 AM
What is an easy free schematic drawing program? I've never drawn a schematic so it needs to be easy to use. I tried googling but all I have found are trial versions for programs that you have to pay for.

I use TinyCAD. Has all the symbols you'll need, and it's fairly easy to use. Oh yeah... best of all, it's free.

Thanks Dino. I just downloaded it and tested it and it seems pretty straightforward and easy to use. Too bad I'm so sleep deprived I'm starting to see things :icon_eek:    I gotta get some sleep and later I'll whip up that schemmy
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: davent on October 31, 2012, 11:12:01 AM
ExpressPCB's a good freebee, very intuitive and easy to learn. http://www.expresspcb.com/

The pcb design half of the software is also easy to use.

dave
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 31, 2012, 11:35:25 AM
^+1

I just tried their schematic program and it was pretty simple to use. The only thing is that their component library is somewhat limited. I had to create a few custom components, which was not too difficult.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 31, 2012, 11:37:54 AM
ATTENTION CONTESTANTS....

To avoid confusion regarding the submission deadline, the following will be stated:

The deadline TIME (2359) will be in U.S. Eastern Standard Time. Please take this into account when submitting.

I honestly hope that this does not come into play however, we all know that there are last minute problems that can occur.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on October 31, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
Oh no!  I'm in CST so I better get cracking!!! ;)

Seriously, thanks for posting that - it could be a problem, especially with contestants all over the globe.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: davent on October 31, 2012, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on October 31, 2012, 11:35:25 AM
^+1

I just tried their schematic program and it was pretty simple to use. The only thing is that their component library is somewhat limited. I had to create a few custom components, which was not too difficult.

There are some pretty good, extensive libraries of custom components around for downloading including good tube libraries for both the schematic and pcb sides of things.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on October 31, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
Draw your schematics by hand. Pencil and quadrille forever! Seriously, if you're not using the software to make the PCB, think about doing it by hand and save yourself hours and headaches. As long as it's not chicken scratch, it just might be easier to read than a lot of computer assisted drafts we see online.
When I use software, I use tinyCAD because it's donationware, quick and customizable.

Quotecontestants all over the globe.

how cool is that?!

Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on October 31, 2012, 12:15:20 PM
Just reread the first post to get the date, you haven't moved Thanksgiving the last month or so?
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 31, 2012, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: Perrow on October 31, 2012, 12:15:20 PM
...you haven't moved Thanksgiving the last month or so?

Nope! Too heavy for me to move.  ::)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on October 31, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on October 31, 2012, 01:47:51 PM
Nope! Too heavy for me to move.  ::)
Especially after dinner & pie!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on October 31, 2012, 09:08:42 PM
I just corrected a mistake I made on the layout. Here's the corrected layout. R2 was 4.7k and it's supposed to be 4.7M.


(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/Pulsewahlayoutpic-2.gif)


And thanks to Ronan here's a schematic

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61170900/Frankensteinpulsewah1.GIF)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 03, 2012, 03:35:51 PM
We will be posting some info regarding how the winners will be announced and other pertinent information within the next few days. Stay tuned!  ;D

I guess most of you are going to surprise us at the last minute with submissions. CAN'T WAIT  8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 03, 2012, 05:14:18 PM
damn, i updated the sterno face a little, now the dang thing sounds so good i guess i gotta build ME one.
in the end,
2n222 mosfet in q1, and a parallel pair in q2... a 2n222 and an ac12_. forget if ac127 or 128, whichever is npn.

i wanna give it to somebody, so....make my mind melt!! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 03, 2012, 05:56:07 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on November 03, 2012, 05:14:18 PM
2n222 mosfet in q1, and a parallel pair in q2... a 2n222 and an ac12_. forget if ac127 or 128, whichever is npn.
Just when I thought it was safe on my pedalboard...  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 03, 2012, 06:06:58 PM
hi dave!! if ya still got sockets on that thing i sent ya, try changing the order. i was bored last nite, that trio seems to work best.

go figure. ;)

hope to see ya wanna revisit "fight club" one day ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 03, 2012, 07:52:38 PM
Just finished boxing mine up, need to label and do video then done!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 04, 2012, 02:44:01 AM
I'm working on my own design for a _____ pedal, inspired by a couple of other designs by others. It's funny how you think that you've got an original idea only to find that someone else had already thought of it. Anyway, I finished the breadboard work a few days ago, finally settling on a final configuration, and I got the schematic on the computer. I've also drawn about 90% of the enclosure artwork.  I finished the PCB design tonight and will to etch a couple of boards tomorrow if I can squeeze in some time between my "honey-do" chores.  Just taking it in steps.
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 04, 2012, 03:24:28 AM
Mine is ready for the catwalk, just have to get the family out of the house and make away with the shame of being a noob on the guitar (although I've played a lot more than usual lately, knowing I've had this "gig" coming).
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 04, 2012, 12:51:59 PM
Quotethe shame of being a noob on the guitar

Virtuosos make some of the worst musicians, don't worry!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 04, 2012, 12:59:39 PM
I hope I make it, we got hammered here by hurricane Sandy and I lost a prescious week of design time  :'(  Hopefully ordering parts today....
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 04, 2012, 01:01:37 PM
+1

dude...example.

i host an open mic every tuesday nite. we pride ourselves on accepting all instruments, all styles, all levels.
usually, every body gets 3 songs or 20 minutes, whatever comes first..if they're good, sometimes more.

anyways, this one guy shows up... a berkley school of music grad, and a triple threat to boot..guitar, keys, and bass.

and he couldn't play at ALL. no chops/no groove/no rhythm/no nothing.

he knows every aspect of theory etc, but cannot apply any of it...i mean, we're playing feelin' alright by dave mason, trying to dummy it down for this guy...2 chords, C7/F9.

the laws of probability would suggest that statistically, he'd be on the right chord 50% of the time, right? but nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

:icon_mrgreen:

i'll put it this way...

most first week guitar players would blow this virtuoso berkley guy off the face of the earth in the first 5 notes.

so don't sweat the petty stuff, just pet the sweaty stuff...or something...and remember, we ain't judging you or your chops, we're judging your creation and the tone it creates... and whether playing simple open chords, or yngwie-esque perfect syntactical lead guitar, that don't matter.

the circuit, and what it sounds like, and how it's presented matter. how well you play or don't doesn't enter the equation, thank god,
cuz i would sink like a bloody f'n stone compared to a lot of the guys out there, and reading this even.

rock on...and get them things working, the deadline is closing in!! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 04, 2012, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: garcho on November 04, 2012, 12:51:59 PM
Quotethe shame of being a noob on the guitar

Virtuosos make some of the worst musicians, don't worry!

Just curious if anyone has tried talking the output from an MP3 player, tweak it to approximate the output amplitude of a guitar, and use it for testing pedals by playing a clean guitar recording. Would pedals behave the same or similar as a real guitar?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 04, 2012, 01:05:27 PM
yah, john, charlie (mooseapotamus) shows that on his set up videos for the mxr flanger clone.

it works fine...tho not perfect, as there's usually a little more compression with a sound file, not as "peaky" as a guitar signal is likely to be.

but i do it...if i have to audio probe, i throw on a cd or something, and let it play...and then probe thru the circuit.

putting a loop thru a pedal is way easier imho than trying to play guitar whilst tweak-o-maticing.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 04, 2012, 01:06:19 PM
Quote from: pakrat on November 04, 2012, 12:59:39 PM
I hope I make it, we got hammered here by hurricane Sandy and I lost a prescious week of design time  :'(  Hopefully ordering parts today....

I hope you and your family are ok and can get back to normalcy soon. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 04, 2012, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on November 04, 2012, 01:05:27 PM
yah, john, charlie (mooseapotamus) shows that on his set up videos for the mxr flanger clone.

it works fine...tho not perfect, as there's usually a little more compression with a sound file, not as "peaky" as a guitar signal is likely to be.

but i do it...if i have to audio probe, i throw on a cd or something, and let it play...and then probe thru the circuit.

putting a loop thru a pedal is way easier imho than trying to play guitar whilst tweak-o-maticing.

Thanks Jimi. I'll have to take a look at Charlie's example.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 04, 2012, 01:22:37 PM
Thanks John. Everyone is ok here, but man did this ever suck lol!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 04, 2012, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 04, 2012, 01:06:19 PM
Quote from: pakrat on November 04, 2012, 12:59:39 PM
I hope I make it, we got hammered here by hurricane Sandy and I lost a prescious week of design time  :'(  Hopefully ordering parts today....

I hope you and your family are ok and can get back to normalcy soon. :)

+10,000,000,000,000,000,000

we were lucky here, this year...we got hammered last year, 8 days with no power or heat.
hope all afflicted make out alright.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 04, 2012, 01:45:56 PM
Glad to hear it missed you Jimi! This was the worst storm on record for our area. Last year we had no power for 9 days, this year only 5. I gotta tell ya, I'll take internet over power haha!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 04, 2012, 02:07:40 PM
lol...i hear ya!! i was running my computer and modem off a generator sporadically for a few days, until the dang thing crapped out. i am an electricity junky. ;)

glad to hear ya made out a little better...we went 8 last year, this year i think the power blipped once. it's probably cuz last year all the trees that were gonna come down did, so it helped PREVENT the polyanna from the utility company this year, and what could have been a freshly epic fail.

edit: prevent, pink, not repeat, ya dumbschmuck hippie...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 04, 2012, 04:15:32 PM
We had a generator but it crapped out the second day. Luckily we were able to fix it, but my cable was out so I had to resort to the old laptop + dvds. I'm just glad it's over.... until that nor'easter hits us Wed. Oh happy day  >:(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 04, 2012, 07:05:03 PM
The eye of Ike went over our area.  I was able to get a new 5KW generator a few days before the storm hit and I made up a 10-ga extension cord to run to the house to keep the frig, lights, fans, and computers going.  Turns out we were without power for only 12 hours while the folks on the block across the street went without power for about 10 days.  My generator got shuttled around to several homes over the next two weeks, so it was put to good use.  You never can be too prepared.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 04, 2012, 08:14:28 PM
Glad to hear y'all are alright!

Chicago's lucky, our only severe weather is gang warfare.

Oh yeah, and traffic. It took me an hour to go 5 miles yesterday.

20 miles of flooded subway in NYC!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 04, 2012, 09:19:22 PM
Quote from: garcho on November 04, 2012, 08:14:28 PM
Glad to hear y'all are alright!

Chicago's lucky, our only severe weather is gang warfare.


I heard it was raining bullets up there.  :o
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 04, 2012, 09:24:20 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 04, 2012, 09:19:22 PM
I heard it was raining bullets up there.  :o

ba dum tssss
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 05, 2012, 04:50:01 AM
I've been steadily working on Plan B, and I don't want you guys to think I'm loafing, so here's a pic of some progress.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_pcb36.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/pcb36.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 05, 2012, 07:04:56 AM
Quote from: Ronan on November 05, 2012, 04:50:01 AM
I've been steadily working on Plan B, and I don't want you guys to think I'm loafing, so here's a pic of some progress.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_pcb36.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/pcb36.jpg)

And when you're done that, I want you to braid your sisters hair, and then knit me a sweater.

:icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 05, 2012, 07:08:33 AM
Quote from: Ronan on November 05, 2012, 04:50:01 AM
I've been steadily working on Plan B, and I don't want you guys to think I'm loafing, so here's a pic of some progress.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_pcb36.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/pcb36.jpg)

My.. my Ian. What BIG caps you have!  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 05, 2012, 09:10:32 AM
@ Ian: Is that perf or vero?
Either way, an unexpected turn from the PCB you posted earlier.
Very cool  :icon_cool:
Now comes the "fun" part. Boxing up and finishing.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 05, 2012, 10:37:56 AM
Nice wiring Ian!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 05, 2012, 10:43:46 AM
I think Ian's just going through a phase. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 05, 2012, 04:10:26 PM
Drilling done... spray paint is drying as i type... I will make it in time:)

How do you guys make an acceptable video recording?

I have a full DAW (based around Sonar X1 software) studio here, so sound clips is no problem at all; also I have a Sony Cybershot camera, which should be good enuff to capture the visual part, but the built-in mic cant do justice to anything. So... i should be able to record the audio in Sonar, capture the video with the camera... and then edit the parts together, right? Just that i never have done it. Maybe there are threads on the subject around here?

Cheers
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 05, 2012, 07:12:43 PM
I often use Windows MovieMaker. There are other free video editing programs out there. I think that some DAWs can handle video too.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 05, 2012, 08:37:49 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 05, 2012, 10:43:46 AM
I think Ian's just going through a phase. ;)

Are you phsychic John? ;)

Dave, this one is vero. I didn't breadboard it, and am very keen to hear the result.

Bengt, for info, Rule 9:

"9)   Entries WILL provide evidence of a WORKING pedal! Pictures and gut shots are MANDATORY! Must include a video of the pedal in action. Video submissions must show clean guitar through amp, followed by ONLY the built pedal (with NO delay, reverb, etc.) then followed by the built pedal with ANY other effect to make your build unique. We will be judging heavily on the finished product!!!"

I don't have any video clip facilities so was going to ask a friend around to do a video clip with his camera phone. Then, to give a better idea of the sound, I was going to do some mp3 recordings through the PC.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 05, 2012, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: Ronan on November 05, 2012, 08:37:49 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 05, 2012, 10:43:46 AM
I think Ian's just going through a phase. ;)

Are you phsychic John? ;)

My wife says I'm a psycho, so I must be... ::)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 05, 2012, 10:24:12 PM
I think most people here know that to give a piece of audio equipment a rigorous judgment requires being there in person to hear it and use it, and that digital communication logistics are extremely limiting. Considering a lot guitar players never even bother to stick their head in front of their amp's speaker to get an idea of what everyone else in the room is hearing (ever seen a guitar player with knee-ears?), I personally think camera phones and mp3s should be fine.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 06, 2012, 01:54:02 AM
Thanx for replies. I will look up moviemaker. If not, it sounds like a good idea to just do a few seconds of "evidence video" with a cellphone cam, and add "knee-ear quality;)" soundclips besides that.

Cheers. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 03:15:01 AM
I use the video editor mainly to reduce the size of the video down to something I can present. I tend ramble when I talk and I don't talk very fast, so I cut out a lot of unimportant junk.  Otherwise, my own mother wouldn't watch it all the way through. ;)

It's not easy to be professional a movie star like Jimi!   ::)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 03:23:04 AM
I tend to sound like I'm still going through puberty. :icon_lol:   I just recorded video and had a mic'd cab. I did that with the intent of patching the audio onto the video but I ended up just using it as my sound sample.

@ John    But I like hearing about angry toilet gods :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 06, 2012, 03:29:48 AM
there should be a  'red carpet' prize?..

best video

best actor

best newcomer

best soundtrack...

best pet in the background

best fake emotion

best long winded bs speech ;D



@mike: yes you do... ;D ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 03:39:04 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 06, 2012, 03:29:48 AM
@mike: yes you do... ;D ;)

Blow it out your a$$. ;D


Maybe a prize for most transformed enclosure.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 06, 2012, 03:44:36 AM
will do.. :-*
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 03:46:39 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 03:39:04 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 06, 2012, 03:29:48 AM
@mike: yes you do... ;D ;)

Blow it out your a$$. ;D


Maybe a prize for most transformed enclosure.

Maybe a prize for the best insult???
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 03:49:08 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 03:23:04 AM
I tend to sound like I'm still going through puberty. :icon_lol:   I just recorded video and had a mic'd cab. I did that with the intent of patching the audio onto the video but I ended up just using it as my sound sample.

@ John    But I like hearing about angry toilet gods :D

Yep.  People often don't like the way they look or sound on video or tape, but they're usually being overly critical of themselves. My mom told me that my dad had some small reel to reel audio tape of him and me talking when I was a toddler in the 60's (no video tape back then), but he erased them many years ago because be was embarrassed by the way he sounded, or at least the way he perceived the way he sounded.

We notice things about ourselves that other people don't see or hear.  As with a lot of situations I just ask myself, what would be the worst case outcome?  If i look like a buffoon, are the 26,791 forum members going to show up at my door with pitch forks and torches, drag me out of my house and lynch me?  Probably not. Most likely they'd just show up with pitch forks and torches, and call me bad names.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 03:49:30 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 03:46:39 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 03:39:04 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 06, 2012, 03:29:48 AM
@mike: yes you do... ;D ;)

Blow it out your a$$. ;D


Maybe a prize for most transformed enclosure.

Maybe a prize for the best insult???

Hahaha   you get what were talking about right?    Rob and I have special tummys
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 03:58:37 AM
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about and if it involves your "special tummys", I don't think I want to know.  :icon_neutral:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 04:01:35 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 03:58:37 AM
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about and if it involves your "special tummys", I don't think I want to know.  :icon_neutral:

:icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: We have crohn's disease.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 06, 2012, 04:04:57 AM
i have IBS.. :(

do we get a special prize.? :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 04:08:40 AM
a roll of toilet paper ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 04:21:19 AM
Aha.  That kind of special tummy.  I know several people who have Crohn's and a couple with  IBS.  Not fun during flare ups.  :(  I just spent a couple of days with severe gastritis caused by a virus. I can't imagine dealing with those symptoms on a regular basis.

If it's any consultation, I be getting my first colonoscopy soon.  Maybe I'll post some photos of it on the Pictures thread.   :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 04:24:18 AM
Not to change the subject, but I took two steps backwards today on my project.

I should have had a PCB ready to populate, but instead I forgot to put something between the photo paper and the iron and melted the backing to the iron. I had to get that cleaned up before my wife saw it. Then when I had removed the backing of the paper, the toner transfer was backwards.  Grrr!!!  :icon_evil:  I'll try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 06, 2012, 04:39:00 AM
Did a video yesterday, played for ten minutes or so, only to find out that almost all sound with the pedal engaged was just a little to loud for the microphone  :icon_rolleyes:


Quote from: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 03:49:08 AM
... are the 26,791 forum members going to show up at my door with pitch forks and torches, drag me out of my house and lynch me?  Probably not.

It's bad enough if one of 'em does  :icon_eek:

Quote from: deadastronaut on November 06, 2012, 04:04:57 AM
i have IBS.. :(

We have IAS (irritating astronaut symptom)  :icon_mrgreen:

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 04:41:48 AM
The subject needed to be changed.  

Man   I hope you get it done in time! I keep seeing new posts in this thread and I get excited hoping to see new entries posted, but so far there's only three :icon_sad:
You must know my buddy Murphey.  :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 06, 2012, 05:09:53 AM
Quote from: Perrow on November 06, 2012, 04:39:00 AM


We have IAS (irritating astronaut symptom)  :icon_mrgreen:



yeah good init?..  ;D

i haven't been able to get a comp thing together as ive been stuck floating around in the orion nebula, ......beep.......i should be crashing to earth tonight around.....beep.........7:30.  if you look to the east tonight you should
see me burning up as i enter the atmosphere......beep......i should be able to survive it though, i have a bicycle helmet and thermal socks .......beep........................(static).......................beep....looking forward to seeing
more entries from you guys!!!.....beep... :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 06, 2012, 07:27:02 AM
Quote from: Ronan on November 05, 2012, 08:37:49 PM
Bengt, for info, Rule 9:

"9)   Entries WILL provide evidence of a WORKING pedal! Pictures and gut shots are MANDATORY! Must include a video of the pedal in action. Video submissions must show clean guitar through amp, followed by ONLY the built pedal (with NO delay, reverb, etc.) then followed by the built pedal with ANY other effect to make your build unique. We will be judging heavily on the finished product!!!"

I don't have any video clip facilities so was going to ask a friend around to do a video clip with his camera phone. Then, to give a better idea of the sound, I was going to do some mp3 recordings through the PC.

Of course the judges prefer that a good YouTube video be posted however, we recognize the fact that not all forumites will have that capability. As long as you are able to provide the required audio and video bits in the required format.... that will be acceptable  8)

A short list of what should be included with your submission:

1) Picture(s) of your pedal
2) Picture(s) of guts
3) Proof of pedal in action in accordance with the rules. (Linked YouTube is preferred however, video and audio proof IS REQUIRED in some form)
4) Custom layout to share with forum (optional but considered for bonus judging points)
5) Credit to originator for non-original or partially used layouts (MANDATORY)
6) A brief explanation of the trials and tribulations of your build (optional)  ;)

GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!

Will be posting information regarding winner announcements, judging time, and prize selection VERY soon!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: markeebee on November 06, 2012, 07:59:56 AM
I haven't checked this thread for a while.  Went away for a week, came back, and now everyone is talking about poo.

I wasn't going to enter but now I feel that may just be able to produce something to show you, after all.......
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on November 06, 2012, 08:26:30 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on November 06, 2012, 07:27:02 AM
1) Picture(s) of your pedal check
2) Picture(s) of guts check
3) Proof of pedal in action in accordance with the rules. (Linked YouTube is preferred however, video and audio proof IS REQUIRED in some form) check
4) Custom layout to share with forum (optional but considered for bonus judging points) check
5) Credit to originator for non-original or partially used layouts (MANDATORY) check
6) A brief explanation of the trials and tribulations of your build (optional)  ;) check

Peeeeeeew I think I thought about everything, even if it's not the best presentation... lol I wonder if one of you guys is able to get a batman costume for the video or something like that. That would be 1st price :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 06, 2012, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: tuckster on November 06, 2012, 08:26:30 AMI wonder if one of you guys is able to get a batman costume for the video or something like that.
Wear the costume and play the batman theme song (the original from the TV show; complete w/vocals). Might not get you a prize but it will be very entertaining.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 09:47:22 AM
I was planning on doing my demo with a fake mustache and a french accent, because when you say 'Pulsewah' it makes you sound french :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 10:46:56 AM
@Tuckster >lol I wonder if one of you guys is able to get a batman costume for the video or something like that. That would be 1st price 
Good idea. I could wear my Batman pajamas! 8)

@Markeebee>Went away for a week, came back, and now everyone is talking about poo.
Given the persons involved this surprises you? ???

>I wasn't going to enter but now I feel that may just be able to produce something to show you, after all.......
Yea!!! :D
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 06, 2012, 11:57:07 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 10:46:56 AM
Given the persons involved this surprises you? ???

Now that it's mentioned I'm more surprised Mark wasn't the one that started that TTD (thread topic derailment).
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: markeebee on November 06, 2012, 12:32:24 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 10:46:56 AM

>I wasn't going to enter but now I feel that may just be able to produce something to show you, after all.......
Yea!!! :D


Not sure that you should be happy. 

I produced something this morning, and then again after lunch, and probably I'll produce another one before bedtime.  Sometimes I can make up to ten a day, but then the results are usually a bit sloppy.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: markeebee on November 06, 2012, 12:33:43 PM
I think I may have achieved a new low.  Carry on.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 12:40:40 PM
Quote from: markeebee on November 06, 2012, 12:32:24 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 06, 2012, 10:46:56 AM

>I wasn't going to enter but now I feel that may just be able to produce something to show you, after all.......
Yea!!! :D


Not sure that you should be happy. 

I produced something this morning, and then again after lunch, and probably I'll produce another one before bedtime.  Sometimes I can make up to ten a day, but then the results are usually a bit sloppy.

Put it in an inclosure and call it a Brown Sound in a Box.


I heard hammond makes an enclosure just for this          the 1590BM
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 06, 2012, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: markeebee on November 06, 2012, 12:33:43 PM
I think I may have achieved a new low.  Carry on.
Nah. You have gone lower...  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 12:40:40 PM
Put it in an inclosure and call it a Brown Sound in a Box.
I heard hammond makes an enclosure just for this          the 1590BM
Now we are approaching "all time low" status.
In "Odorama" too!  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 06, 2012, 02:16:02 PM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on November 06, 2012, 01:49:56 PM
Now we are approaching "all time low" status.

Apparently you missed my thread in the lounge. :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 06, 2012, 04:40:58 PM
Just when you thought it was safe to see again....
Thanks Mark B...  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

http://images.menvsmonkey.com/files/2011/08/men-vs-monkey-012.jpg

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 06, 2012, 06:48:08 PM
that's my neighbor!

EDIT: oops, referring to link in previous post.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 06, 2012, 09:55:46 PM
I'm beginning to think that we should have a ninth prize...

for most entertaining banter.

It been as exciting to peek in every night to read what new buffoonery has been posted, as it has been looking forward to a new pedal offering.

Thanks for keeping it light and entertaining people. That's why this forum rocks!

And yes, I would love to see someone demo his/her pedal in a Batman costume.... and play the theme song.

Oh, and I live in Quebec, where French is the first langauge. I tried the "Pulsewah" thing. It just got me a bunch of strange looks, so as we say here, "Oublie ca mon homme! (Forget about it buddy!)".
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 07, 2012, 03:40:44 AM
All of this talk of crohn's made me flare. It feels like I drank a bottle of etchant :'(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 07, 2012, 04:06:55 AM
Sorry you're feeling bad. Hope it subsides soon! :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on November 07, 2012, 04:46:12 AM
Mike: saying pulsewah makes you sound russian  :icon_twisted:

It seems that Romney needs a job, maybe he can play on the demos.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 07, 2012, 05:10:22 AM
He would just outsource it to China ;D          'Herow! Today super happy fun time pedal is the pulsewah!' 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 07, 2012, 12:55:07 PM
Now, now guys, don't get political. Besides, who cares about the Prez when:

COLORADO AND WASHINGTON LEGALIZED MARIJUANA!!!!!!!!!!


Dancing days are here again...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 07, 2012, 04:05:21 PM
Well...


Gut shots taken, box closed... Now i just need to record that video. Too bad its too late for noise here:)

Cheers
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 07, 2012, 05:53:02 PM
That's good Bengt, looking forward to seeing/hearing your entry!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I've destroyed two 16-pin IC's and am redesigning/rebuilding another part of the circuit which caused the failures. Other than that, the rest of it (which isn't much) seems to be working fine :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 08, 2012, 02:21:06 AM
In my limited free time, I've managed to gunk up the iron (and clean it), do a backwards photo transfer, and then tonight I was populating the PCB after I had "corrected" the backward image and etched it, and noticed that pins one and eight on my IC were reversed left to right.  I must have done a vertical flip instead of horizontal?  Anyway, I went back and reversed the original image again (horizontal, I think), and printed it. Then with the back of the page facing me, I held it up to a light and checked that the pin orientation was correct. This is the first PCB that I've designed from scratch, so I've learned a few things.

At this rate, my entry might be a breadboard in a shoe box!   :-\
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 08, 2012, 03:09:31 AM
QuoteAt this rate, my entry might be a breadboard in a shoe box!

Just pour lots of clear coat on it
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 08, 2012, 10:01:59 AM
Quote from: garcho on November 08, 2012, 03:09:31 AM
QuoteAt this rate, my entry might be a breadboard in a shoe box!

Just pour lots of clear coat on it

Yeeeesssssss..... my Precious!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 08, 2012, 10:23:10 AM
>At this rate, my entry might be a breadboard in a shoe box!<
Encase it in resin!
C'mon John... Go for it!!! ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: stonerbox on November 08, 2012, 11:01:05 AM
Quote from: garcho on November 07, 2012, 12:55:07 PM
Now, now guys, don't get political. Besides, who cares about the Prez when:

COLORADO AND WASHINGTON LEGALIZED MARIJUANA!!!!!!!!!!


Dancing days are here again...

Oh, man your lucky!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 08, 2012, 02:20:14 PM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on November 08, 2012, 10:23:10 AM
>At this rate, my entry might be a breadboard in a shoe box!<
Encase it in resin!
C'mon John... Go for it!!! ;D

Third time's a charm. Gonna try again tonight.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 08, 2012, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 08, 2012, 02:20:14 PM
Third time's a charm. Gonna try again tonight.

Good luck and godspeed  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 08, 2012, 03:45:41 PM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 06, 2012, 03:29:48 AM
there should be a  'red carpet' prize?..

best video

best actor

best newcomer

best soundtrack...

best pet in the background

best fake emotion

best long winded bs speech ;D



@mike: yes you do... ;D ;)

i'm ready for my close up, mister demille

me and my ninja dachshund
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 08, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
Quoteme and my ninja dachshund

Yeah PHHHHTTTTT!!! Ninja dachshund my a$$!!! She was a total lush with me. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 08, 2012, 05:49:18 PM
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 08, 2012, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 08, 2012, 05:49:18 PM


Unfortunately, shameless lobbying with a cheesey French accent, will not score you more points.

Funny as hell though! I'm still wiping tears from my eyes.

:icon_lol:

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 08, 2012, 05:55:37 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 08, 2012, 05:52:57 PM
Funny as hell though! I'm still wiping tears from my eyes.

I must agree.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 08, 2012, 06:04:04 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 05, 2012, 07:04:56 AM
Quote from: Ronan on November 05, 2012, 04:50:01 AM
I've been steadily working on Plan B, and I don't want you guys to think I'm loafing, so here's a pic of some progress.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_pcb36.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/pcb36.jpg)

And when you're done that, I want you to braid your sisters hair, and then knit me a sweater.

:icon_lol:


(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/Perrow_MLP/Random/Braid.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 08, 2012, 07:34:38 PM
^ bravo!

my entry is coming later tonight
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 08, 2012, 07:49:40 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 08, 2012, 05:49:18 PM

Bahaha!!!  Funny!!! ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 08, 2012, 08:26:26 PM
Quote from: garcho on November 08, 2012, 07:34:38 PM
^ bravo!

my entry is coming later tonight

I cant wait!!!  I was wondering if there was only going to be 3 entries  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 08, 2012, 09:17:03 PM
I finally figured this $&<€{<~' PCB etching thing out. The layout software shows the PCB as if you're looking down through it - Duh!   :icon_redface:  There's no need to reverse the image (traces) before transferring it to the copper. The only thing I need to reverse is any text. I think I have one more try left in me... :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 08, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
Keep at it Jon, you'll get it right this time. A person has never etched a pcb if they haven't done at least one mirror image.

I can finally see some light at the end of the tunnel for my project, thank goodness. Hopefully enter it in the comp early next week, if it doesn't blow up in the meantime.

And I see Pelle has outdone me on the braiding thing, there's no way I can do that to mine, the wires are all attached now...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 08, 2012, 10:59:03 PM
Quote from: Ronan on November 08, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
Keep at it Jon, you'll get it right this time. A person has never etched a pcb if they haven't done at least one mirror image.

I can finally see some light at the end of the tunnel for my project, thank goodness. Hopefully enter it in the comp early next week, if it doesn't blow up in the meantime.

And I see Pelle has outdone me on the braiding thing, there's no way I can do that to mine, the wires are all attached now...

Thanks!  If anything I'm persistent and I don't like giving in to problems.   Looking forward to seeing/hearing your project. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 09, 2012, 02:43:39 AM
@mike:  bleu bla bleuu mon blu blu de pleu bleuu du ploo pleu....?

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 09, 2012, 03:59:38 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 08, 2012, 05:49:18 PM

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 09, 2012, 11:32:36 AM
Quote from: Perrow on November 08, 2012, 06:04:04 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 05, 2012, 07:04:56 AM
Quote from: Ronan on November 05, 2012, 04:50:01 AM
I've been steadily working on Plan B, and I don't want you guys to think I'm loafing, so here's a pic of some progress.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_pcb36.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/pcb36.jpg)

And when you're done that, I want you to braid your sisters hair, and then knit me a sweater.

:icon_lol:



(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/Perrow_MLP/Random/Braid.jpg)

Thank you Pelle!

:icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 09, 2012, 12:53:19 PM
ATTENTION CONTESTANTS!!!!

Announcement time!  ;D

First, we are currently sitting at 18 entries. This means that one of the lucky entrants will get $180 (minus shipping fees) in DIY store credit!!

That can buy a LOT of switches, sockets, transistors, whatever!!!

Second, this is how the winners will be announced and how the prizes will be selected/distributed.

After the competition deadline of November 22nd at 2359 EST, the timer starts for the judges. We will have ALL of the entries scored and results posted NLT November 30th at 2359 EST.

ALL of the 8 winners WILL BE posted at that time. They will be ranked according to their scores. At this point... accolades and praise can be awarded (and small jests of envy can be doled out  ::))

The overall winner -- or #1 --WILL HAVE 48 HOURS TO CONTACT ME VIA PM FOR PRIZE SELECTION Once the prize has been selected, the thread will be updated (as soon as possible... I gotta sleep sometime) with the remaining prizes. When the list of remaining prizes is posted, the  #2 winner will have 48 hours to contact me... and so on until ALL prizes have been awarded. The reasoning for the 48 hours is so that we do not run into Christmas time and still have people waiting for their prize.

Please..please..please ensure that you contact ME within the 48 hour period. If this will be a problem then you must contact ME before the 30th of November to explain so arrangements can be made in case you are chosen as a winner. If the 48 hour window is broken and I have not heard from you, then your position in the winners list will be lowered until I hear from you. Once again, this is not meant to be a punishment but, it is so that other contest winners are not on hold for an indefinite period of time.

Since the list of winners will be posted here, I will leave it up to the individual winner to contact Aron regarding the T-shirt.

Finally, this list will enable the prize givers to verify the winners. I WILL CONTACT THE PRIZE GIVERS TO INFORM THEM OF YOUR CHOICE. I will then leave it up to the prize giver to contact you/make arrangements for delivery via PM, email, etc.

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE. 2 MORE WEEKS UNTIL TURKEYDAY!!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 09, 2012, 03:52:11 PM
I've made two attempts at the video part of the documentation. Third time's the charm?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 09, 2012, 04:13:24 PM
Let's hope so Pelle...  the video part is something I'm not really looking forward to, but probably a lot of fun when its finished to a reasonable level of satisfaction.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 10, 2012, 01:08:59 AM
Ok-Board etched and stuffed. Wife will be gone all day tomorrow, so I should be able to make good progress. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: markeebee on November 10, 2012, 04:09:25 AM
^ I'll drop her back home around 10, ok?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 10, 2012, 04:24:47 AM
^ Could you make it 11?   ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 10, 2012, 04:52:36 AM
Can you pick mine up on the way through?
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 10, 2012, 08:38:04 AM
Sneaky peaky

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/10/9abeqedy.jpg)

Video, docs and stuff to follow next week sometime.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 10, 2012, 08:52:02 AM
^Now things are warming up!  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 10, 2012, 09:02:11 AM
Quote from: slacker on November 10, 2012, 08:38:04 AM
Video, docs and stuff to follow next week sometime.

But I want them NOOOOWWW

(http://www.fanpop.com/images/polls/5849_1_full.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 10, 2012, 05:58:50 PM
My Contest Entry; the
BLÜE MONSTER
Dual Band FET OD
Original artwork:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/nimus002.jpg)
I asked the 9yo kid for a two-headed monster... This is what he came up with:)


**********
The idea behind the box:

I have, for a few months, had two ideas ... which i thought could be combineable. 1: I got inspired by Craig Andertons Quadrafuzz; the idea of frequency splitting in a stage before the OD/distortion/fuzz circuit. 2: I have fallen in love with the overdrive capabilities in the 4049UBE IC, and i wanted to build a box that really used all of that IC-s converters.

And... as this competition was announced... i thought; why not do it now... and here it is...

So... the result is: A truly High-Gain OD, with surprisingly clear separation between Lo and Hi.

**********

Credit to:
Craig Anderton, for the quadrafuzz idea in general, and especially the swept filter stage (details further down).
The guy/guys(?) at runoffgroove.com, for the Double D.  I actually use a Double Half Double D somewhere in this one.
All the helpful guys at madbeans forum, including mr Bean himself.
All you guys right here on THIS forum. I still read a lot more than i type here, but beleive me, without the information i get from here, i wouldnt have a clue about... alot:)

*********

Link to fullsize schematic:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/Blue%20Monster%20SCHEMATIC.png
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/Blue%20Monster%20SCHEMATIC_SMALL.png)
From input to output:
First, an input buffer which also adds some gain. Then the funny part starts: The signal is split in two matched filters, LP for lowband, and HP for highband, Linkwitz-Riley style. The crossover freq is just under 200 Hz (194 to be specific), which gives about the 5th fret on the D-string. If you play in "ground position" (or what its called... your left hand down there among the common open chords...) this means that the bass strings go through the LO band, and the three higher strings through the HI band. The rolloff is 12 dB/octave though (not THAT steep), so obviously the lower E note WILL be heard through the HI band.

The next stage is a pair of full-band, phase-correcting filters. I tried a few simpler approaches (as inverting the lower band), but found no satisfaying result.

Then; OD. I played a lot with this part. I had that "obvious" idea that the lower and higher bands should have different OD circuits. BUT, for every change I made in any of the stages, it seemed as I introduced destructive interference between hi and lo. "Funny" stuff occurred. I guess that every time I change a value of a resistor or cap, I affect some RC circuit, and I introduce unwanted phaseshift.  So, I ended up with two identical OD circuits, which are heavily inspired by the Double D from runoffgroove.com.

The two OD bands meets up in a mixer stage.

Then, as the last toneshaping thing theres an active tunable two-pole LP filter. This is straight off a Craig Anderton design. FILTER_1A and FILTER_1B is a dual-ganged pot.

**


If you feel like building your own, i would be honoured:
Board Layout:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/Blue%20Monster%20LAYOUT.png

Etch mask (3.35 x 2.90 in, including border):
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/Blue%20Monster%20ETCH%203350%202900.png

****

Pics:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/002.JPG)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/003.JPG)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/004.JPG)

For the enclosure, i asked the young kid for a two-headed evil monster. His original painting is the first pic in this post^^. After some digitizing i included it in the design. A funny detail is that i "knew" from the beginning that this one should be blue. I guess i allready have a green screamer, a red llama... and some yellow and grey-metallic ones.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/1005.JPG)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/1011.JPG)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/1012.JPG)

***

Finally, how it sounds.

SOUNDCLIP:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10190945/Blue%20Monster/turkey/Blue_Monster_take1.mp3

 Guitar->BLÜE MONSTER->POD 2.0 (clean setting)->soundcard->DAW
...just a few riffs and tones repeated over and over with different settings on the Blüe Monster. the first 20 seconds is BLÜE MONSTER in bypass.

VIDEO:
The video is recorded with a Sony Cybershot digital camera with built in mic placed on the floor in front of a crappy practice amp. Hehe, i can say a lot about myself, but im NOT a camera man or video producer... But as "evidence" i hope its allright, and you get a hint about how it sounds.

This time: Guitar->BLÜE MONSTER->Guitar Amp




Well... there you are, i guess:) Please tell me if i missed any required info.

Cheers all!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 10, 2012, 06:15:13 PM
Oh yeah!  ;D
Great presentation. From artwork to video and everything in between.  :icon_cool:
I told y'all. It's heating up in these parts.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 10, 2012, 06:48:04 PM
That's great!  It's so crystal clear between the highs and lows and they kinda tickle each other to make a cool octave sound.

I'm definitely going to build this one 8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 10, 2012, 07:08:24 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 10, 2012, 06:48:04 PM
That's great!  It's so crystal clear between the highs and lows and they kinda tickle each other to make a cool octave sound.

I'm definitely going to build this one 8)

Im glad to hear that the separation quality goes through the "recording filter". In some settings, it actually feels a bit like playing an octave effect, or on two different instruments simultanously.

Very cool if you decide to build one:)

Cheers
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 10, 2012, 07:21:35 PM
+1 on that presentation Vallhagen. Great sounding pedal and the finish on your box is really pro looking, excellent job!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 11, 2012, 12:52:04 AM
Beautiful pedal, Bengt, inside and out, and it sounds great!  I heard the octave effect as well. It sounded like two instruments playing an octave apart, or like you were plucking two strings a octave apart.  You definitely hit the nail on the head with your circuit design - Very nice!  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 11, 2012, 05:24:39 AM
Thanx. Again:).

A few more details on the design, to whoever feel like building one:) :

I guess/think it can be squeezed into a BB sized box. Mine is bigger though, 146x120x38mm ("BDDD" size, bought from Banzaimusic).

The 220nF caps (Wima MKS3, the four red boxes in the upper right quadrant) i use in the build have "unusual" leg spacing; wider than your average box cap. Also (and this count as a small design mistake) named caps are a a bit too wide to fit on their space between the IC. If you look closely at the gutshot you can see that two of them close to the IC really are squeezed in. There should be no problem to adjust this in the CAD program for a "revision B", but i leave it as it is for now.

In my box, i placed 1kOhm resistors as R16 and R17.

Cheers:)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 11, 2012, 10:08:56 AM
Bravo Bengt! +1 @ the artwork!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 11, 2012, 09:02:55 PM
Very nice entry Bengt! Love the finish of the pedal, no way can I match that! Sounds good too.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on November 12, 2012, 09:39:17 AM
Üüüüüü I like thät mönstär, really nice:icon_biggrin:
Does it live under the 9yo kids bed?  :'(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 12, 2012, 10:45:55 AM
Quote from: tuckster on November 12, 2012, 09:39:17 AM
Üüüüüü I like thät mönstär, really nice:icon_biggrin:
Does it live under the 9yo kids bed?  :'(

Hëhë... ï häd tö täkë ä löök. Funilly enuff, i only found düsträts

/Bëngt
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 12, 2012, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: tuckster on November 12, 2012, 09:39:17 AM
Üüüüüü I like thät mönstär, really nice:icon_biggrin:
Does it live under the 9yo kids bed?  :'(
;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 12, 2012, 01:24:39 PM
OK dudes, here it is!

A fellow contestant was graceful enough to put up with my bellyaching, so I'll save us all the excuse-making and indignation. That being said, I hope I'm not wasting the judges' time with my terse video, lack of fidelity-conscious recording, crappy schematic, and even worse layout. ;D
Honestly, I enjoy using what I've built and I'm proud of it, just a little embarrassed of my presentation. This pedal can go from 'stuck wah', to pheux phasor, to Leslie rotating speaker sounds, to MFOS style ray gun weirdness, to subtle blooming. I'm looking forward to tweaking further in the future, improving the PCB, and doing a full-blown build thread. I'm also planning on doing a simple op amp HP/LP version.

Folie à Deux
Dual bandpass filters with LFO controlled modulation.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8070/8179115601_e38403ca2b.jpg)

I got hopelessly hooked on filters recently after spending some time noodling with Cliff Schecht's MS-20 schematic, from a thread started by Strategy and expanded by Jordan A, along with Cliff. Being a noob to this, designing a PCB for a dual LM13700 project was a little out of my league, at least if the PCB was expected to be something that would fit in anything smaller than a suitcase. So I decided to work my way up to it by making a few simpler filter circuits. The 'tunability' of a multiple feedback BP filter with a single pot seemed like a good reason to try that out first. Because the MS-20 is actually 2 filters in series, I decided to make a circuit with 2 filters, switchable between series and parallel, thanks to Rick Holt's elegant switching schematic (posted in the MS-20 thread). Of course, BP filters in series are almost painful to listen to, at least without significant post-processing, so I ended up ditching that for hard-wired parallel filters.
Each filter has it's own standard op amp LFO, with controls for rate, ramping, and depth.
There is a 'blend' knob to mix wet and dry signals, and a 'tune' knob to adjust the resonant frequency of each filter. The tunability is limited. Also, because the LFOs are controlling LEDs affecting the LDRs in parallel with the 'tune' variable resistor, the 'depth' affects the frequency, too.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8208/8179462642_213248d6be_b.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8486/8179065475_b174ccc840.jpg)  (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8487/8179099314_306dae0002_z.jpg)

RANDOM NOTES:
I used white LEDs for the roll-your-own vactrol because to my ears, they worked the best, and in conjunction with the display LEDs, other types did not light up both. I know there's a smarter way to wire up the indicator LEDs, but I was been pinched for noodle time.
I messed with the final op amp stage for a while, and the component values are chosen strictly by ear. Again, I'm sure there's a better way to do it, but I'm still learning the basics, so for now all I have are my ears to guide me.
I wasn't sure how to deal with the input impedance.
The power supply took some big caps to filter: 470uF and 220uF, again, chosen by ear.
Figured it's a current hog, so I didn't bother with the battery.

I whine a little bit, only play one damn chord the whole time, and leave out a few key examples of cool sounds this pedal is capable of, but I think y'all will get the idea  ;D:

can't believe I called it a 'bypass filter', ha!  :icon_redface:

You can see my improvised fixes for a few basic layout mistakes if you look close, but other than those, it turned out great.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8482/8179146584_4da9e65e1c_m.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8338/8179148532_76d789f00e_m.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8179117441_0c595494d1_m.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8179150984_38deeb6922_m.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8485/8179119741_57b94f00c0_m.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8201/8179153118_c9bacd7478_m.jpg)

Thanks to Aron and everyone on the forum, especially the veterans throwing their wisdom around for free; you're beautiful people!!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on November 12, 2012, 02:13:17 PM
Keep on posting guys we need more of this!!!! Very nice work dudes :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 12, 2012, 03:38:28 PM
Great work, Gary!  I really like the name plate and it sounds great!

It's really great how this contest has spurred so many to innovate and develop new ideas and twists on established circuits.

BTW- can't believe I called it a 'bypass filter
Easy to do on video!  On my last video I called my Fender UltraChorus amp a Twin Reverb. I wish!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 12, 2012, 03:44:03 PM
Ha! Thanks for the encouragement J! Looking forward to seeing yours and others; list of things to build has mysteriously been elongated since this contest started ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 12, 2012, 04:05:55 PM
That is a beautiful, clean build Gary. I love the name plate and it sounds fantastic!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 12, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
well done, guys, man, this is gonna be hard to judge!!!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 12, 2012, 04:26:20 PM
Good one Gary! There's a lot of hardware in that little box, done well to fit it all in.

John, I too am surprised at the inventiveness of all these entries, its really good to see.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 12, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
Great one, there Garcho! Cool sounding innovative thing to my ears.

Nice face(-plate) as well. Blackredwhite exceed ignite... Cool.

Cheers
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 12, 2012, 04:51:26 PM
Thanks y'all, you're too kind!

We're like the fun, down-to-Earth version of NAMM  8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on November 12, 2012, 06:16:24 PM
Just have to say, the last two entries are amazing and both sound really excellent.

Gary's is right up my alley, I want to build one! But I'll wait until he's back in town to get an etch image. That would be a lot of parts for perfboard. :)

(There was talk over on Madbean of a group buy for PCBs for Bengt's project if anyone's interested.)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 13, 2012, 05:29:44 AM
Quotefor Bengt's project if anyone's interested

yes!

what about yours Jon? I keep thinking that next year we're gonna see a bunch of Blue Warbler rip-offs from the pedal 'industry'  >:(  ;D

EDIT: I can send you the etch image at the correct scaling if you want. I couldn't immediately figure out how to post one that's scaled correctly without a bunch of blank space around it, then I lost my patience and posted it as is. But, the trace mask should be correct.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 13, 2012, 07:44:34 AM
At last the true purpose of this contest is coming to light!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D  :icon_mrgreen:

I am very happy that people are discussing interest in the shared layouts and designs!!!

Good luck to all.... ONLY 9 DAYS LEFT!!  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 13, 2012, 08:52:31 AM
Gulp...

Artwork is done, but the enclosure is still naked.  Got the board etched and populated. Adding offboard components and praying the sucker will fire up first time. Since this is a new design, although fairly simple, I'm hoping I got it right. Not much time to troubleshoot and do a new board. [insert profusely sweating emoticon]. About the only thing I've got going for me is thanksgiving dinner will be at someone else's home this year. I'm also lucky that my wife hasn't shot me yet for spending so much time on this project. BTW, if the deadline comes and goes and you haven't heard from me, you'll know why...   :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 13, 2012, 09:14:39 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 13, 2012, 08:52:31 AM
BTW, if the deadline comes and goes and you haven't heard from me, you'll know why...   :icon_rolleyes:

I hear you!!!  ;D

Well, think of it this way...

Enter a pedal... any pedal = About 50% chance to claim a prize.

Don't enter a pedal at all (even one that you are not 100% satisfied with) = 0% chance.

Good Luck with your project! And good luck with the wife  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 13, 2012, 09:37:28 AM
Hide the guns n ammo John. We really want to see what you have in store for this. Your entry in the last contest was in my personal top 3.
Waaaay original! BTW: Do you use that toilet seat much?  (For guitar, that is...  :icon_lol:)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 13, 2012, 10:17:37 AM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on November 13, 2012, 09:37:28 AM
Do you use that toilet seat much?

I think we can all admit to playing guitar on the toilet at some point. John is an innovator in the field ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 13, 2012, 10:26:37 AM
There is just something about playing guitar in a small room with tiled floor/walls that brings out all the tone.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 13, 2012, 10:30:04 AM
 :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 13, 2012, 10:41:05 AM
good to see 'original' designs coming out.... 8)

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on November 13, 2012, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 13, 2012, 10:41:05 AM
good to see 'original' designs coming out.... 8)


Seriously. At some point there was a comment that we'd be seeing a bunch of fuzzes with cool graphics. Expectations haev been ground into a fine powder and used to bake battle bread and add a little something to the morning coffee.

Wait, what were we talking about?

Oh right.

original designs good.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 13, 2012, 11:19:48 AM
Well, last time I combined my favorite two pastimes. This year I'm focusing on circuit simplicity. What I found was trying to make a "simple" circuit do what you want it to do isn't simple.  My circuit is simple, but I ended up with a lot of knobs to make it work right!  I used ideas from several different pedals and did a ton of research and self education. I got it to about 95% of what I wanted the circuit to do.  I could have gone the rest if the way, but I would have had to increase the complexity and basically end up with something similar to what's already been done.  It'll be interesting to see if anyone can provide improvements once it's out.

As Jon said, this contest had turned out to be about original designs.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 13, 2012, 11:29:56 AM
I'm actually upset that this turned out to be all about original designs since I must build them all now. P.S. John, I LOVED the toilet seat!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 13, 2012, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on September 15, 2012, 02:31:40 PM

3)   Competition is open to hobby builders only. NO commercial or production builders.


Just a short one, which I need clarified by you judges:

Is there by any means against rule three, if someone near us here on the pedalbuilders part of the web, make a bunch of fabbed PCBs out of my BLÜE MONSTER schematic and sell them in his store to enthusiasts for - say - 9-12 USD each?

... I can't see it can be against the rule, as i'm definately a hobbyist and that store is not mine, just felt that i needed to ask anyway.

***

I am fairly overwhelmed bout the positive response so far, here and on madbeans forum. Thanx guys!

/Bengt

***

Hehe... this browsing is addicting too. I can tell i check this page more than once a day ::)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 13, 2012, 11:43:23 AM
@pakrat

There was never a rule AGAINST using an already proven design. It was only stated that "If you use another creators design, in whole or in part, the original design/layout creator MUST BE CREDITED." It just happens that most.. if not all... of the submissions have been original designs in whole or in part.

I think this is fantastic and I am stoked to see original designs thus far!!

@Vallhagan

The whole intention of the "original designs" aspect was to cultivate creativity AND to give other builders a possible design for new projects. I will speak for myself as a judge and say that possible PCB fab runs that derrive from any of the submissions are NOT against the hobby builder rule. In fact, I think it is great that your design is getting that type of reaction! The rule was put in place to ensure a level playing field for ALL of the entrants. We didn't want production builders/business owners to enter and CRUSH the competition. This has been gone over several times in this thread so I believe I will leave it at that.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 13, 2012, 11:56:30 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on November 13, 2012, 11:43:23 AM
... I will speak for myself as a judge and say that possible PCB fab runs that derrive from any of the submissions are NOT against the hobby builder rule. ...

Perfect.  Maybe it was obvious, but to say it again; my stomachfeeling (as we say here in sweden... ) needed it clarified:) Thanx:)

Cheers
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 13, 2012, 12:07:39 PM
Quote from: Vallhagen on November 13, 2012, 11:56:30 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on November 13, 2012, 11:43:23 AM
... I will speak for myself as a judge and say that possible PCB fab runs that derrive from any of the submissions are NOT against the hobby builder rule. ...

Perfect.  Maybe it was obvious, but to say it again; my stomachfeeling (as we say here in sweden... ) needed it clarified:) Thanx:)

Cheers

No problem!  ;)

As long as this is occurring AFTER your submission it is not a problem. In fact, it is great all around (for you, the forumites, etc.)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 13, 2012, 12:09:14 PM
@Gov I completely understand the rules  ;D I was just pointing out that so far I must build every one of these entries. I'm upset because that brings my build list up to about 50. It is amazing what people come up with when the pressure is on. If the community ever needs great new designs, just run a competition.
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 13, 2012, 01:08:09 PM
I can calm you with the fact that my build is a new layout for a known (and quite popular) circuit ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 13, 2012, 01:25:44 PM
Thanks Perrow  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 13, 2012, 02:41:01 PM
Thanks for the complements, guys. It was a fun build.

@Oldschoolanalog, yes I use Odius Max quite a bit (for guitar) ;).  I rescued a big plastic case from being trashed at the school where my wife is principal so I can cart him around more easily.  He might have a cameo role in my Turkey Day Shootout video. :)

Speaking of shooting, my wife owns quite a few guns and legally carries where she is allowed.  She's a better shot than I am too. I never miss getting the trash out on trash day!   :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 13, 2012, 10:15:44 PM
Ok, I'll go next then...here's my entry - the Shiny Wobbly. (Shiny sort of finish, wobbly axle).

It is a low pass and all pass filter circuit, with six series filters, each pair is switchable between the two modes. The original design is by Jurgen Haible (RIP), the project name was varislope 36dB low pass filter/phaser, and it was designed for use in modular synths.

I came across this circuit a few months ago, but then revisited it after Dino (Digi2t) put up his Tau pipe phaser build, and J. Haible had designed the layout for the Tau pcb, so I was again drawn back to his website. (http://www.jhaible.de) Then I saw how versatile  the phaser section was,  (http://www.jhaible.de/varislope_filter_phaser/varislope_filter_phaser.html)and wondered how it would go in a wah enclosure.

The basic filter circuit was copied, and the complex LFO and control circuits of the original were omitted. The modifications were minimal, the input stage was altered to suit guitar input, and the output was padded to suit guitar levels. The filter circuit is unusual in that it uses jfet buffers as well as the inbuilt LM13600/LM13700 buffers.

The end result is a pedal capable of synth-like sounds. It has a nice clean and very versatile phaser section, the feedback (resonance) signal can be inverted before being fed back to the beginning of the filter stages, and the filter output can be inverted before being mixed with the dry signal. There is a wet/dry pot that also affects the tonal variety of the phase output, and there is an overall volume control on the output.

One departure from "standard pedal practice" is that the power supply is regulated +/-15V, derived from a 15V AC wall wart which feeds a voltage doubler inside the pedal, followed by standard LM317/LM337 regulators.

Schematic:

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_36dB1cschematic.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/36dB1cschematic.jpg)

Vero overlay (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/36dBverooverlay1.jpg)
Vero cuts (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/36dBverocuts1.jpg)

Build pics:
pic1 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1174.jpg)
pic2 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1180.jpg)
pic3 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1184.jpg)
pic4 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1185.jpg)
pic5 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1186.jpg)
guts1 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1202.jpg)
guts2 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1201.jpg)
guts3 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1200.jpg)
complete1 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1193.jpg)
complete2 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1194.jpg)

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/th_DSCF1199.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/birdy81260/DSCF1199.jpg)

In the video clip, you will notice the pedal works back to front, as in, heel down for max treble or upwards swing of the sweep. This is because my first wah pedal worked backwards and I have wired every wah pedal since then to work the same. I was pretty nervous too, sorry about that, and got some of the wording wrong, (vibrato/tremelo, delay/reverb) them's the breaks.





I'm very happy with the actual sound quality of the circuit, its a great design, thanks to JH. I was going to do some mp3 clips, but I feel the video covers nearly all of the sounds reasonably well. If parts of it sound "over the top", this circuit can easily be tamed down into subtleness with the feedback and mix knobs.


Trials and tribulations - the bias current control circuit for the LM13700's that I conjured up didn't work, and despite all precautions, three of them got destroyed, two at first, then another one died a few days later, probably from the previous trauma. Then one of the replacements turned out to be making hiss, so it got replaced too. I ended up with a very basic, but safe, bias current control and now it works fine. The new wah enclosure kit gave me some problems too, the base plate was not a good fit, so I made a new one, and the axle for the pedal was a sloppy fit (hence the name "wobbly") and I had to ream the pedal hole for the splined end of the axle otherwise I would have broken something trying to get the axle to sit flush. Other than that, it was smooth sailing, but took a long time to build. (The wah kit was from mammoth and I bought it from them rather than Small Bear because it weighs less and overseas shipping is much cheaper.)




Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 13, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
Damnit! I've been knocked down one more place in this comp :icon_mad:
I was angry till your Australian accent soothed my rage ;D

I'm really impressed by the wiring. 10/10
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 13, 2012, 11:01:52 PM
Excellent job, Ronan!  So many great sounds from one pedal!  I expected to hear "Industrial Disease" there toward the end. Sounds and looks marvelous!

After seeing and hearing the entries so far, I'm glad I'm not a judge. This is going to be like watching world class atheletes finish a race with only a hundredth of a second difference between each of their times! (Of course I'll be trailing some minutes behind!)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 14, 2012, 12:53:00 AM
Wow, another excellent entry. I really like the liquid tone you're getting there, and the clean finish looks great. I must agree with John that this will be a tough one to judge. Great job Ronan!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 14, 2012, 02:41:30 AM
Bravo! Fairly simple circuit for how friggin' cool it is! Love me some 13700

Nothing wrong with15v! Every other electronic device I own has its own DC adaptor, why not pedals? :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 14, 2012, 03:19:56 AM
@ian:  that sounds really great!!!. :icon_cool:...love those swirly sounds ...very nice!

i don't blame you for being a bit nervous...i never speak on videos.. :-X ;D....but hey thems the rules right!. ;)


good luck to ya'll......... ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 14, 2012, 06:05:14 AM
Oh man that sounds awesome Ronan! Man the sound was so thick and lush! I want something like this for sure, will have to look into it later.

You got 3 of the lm13700's working together! Thats awesome. I was having trouble just using the second side of the lm13700 in my Mutron Project. It seemed like when I jumped one side of the ota to the other it had less of an effect. Seemed like with the amp bias's connected together (1-16) cut the effect in half. So Im guessing what feeds that needs a boost. Looks like you got the bias control set up great ill have to look and see what ya did!

After seeing the projects posted so far I have no chance at all! haha but that's ok I mainly wanted to help out the forum and get the contest active! You guys are great!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 14, 2012, 06:38:22 AM
Quote from: Ronan on November 13, 2012, 10:15:44 PM
Oops, got a little bit of blues there...

It's ok for this time, but don't let it happen again  :icon_twisted:  ;D :icon_cool:

Really nice sound you got from that thing, I thought about leaving a snide remark about the complexity of the controls, maybe something about the builder needing a manual to adjust the controls, but I wouldn't endorse such a thing just to help my cause, and I guess the Americans here seen enough negative campaigning lately :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on November 14, 2012, 09:07:13 AM
Treadles! Awesome work, Ian. Sounds really cool.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 14, 2012, 09:52:10 AM
Nice pedal & presentation Ian!  :icon_cool:
The judges are in for a lot of difficult decision making. Seems each entry makes it more and more difficult.  :icon_lol:
BTW; I LOVE the concept of video presentations. Really gives a good feel for the entries. Much better than just a couple of pretty pictures.

PS: There are a couple of contestants that I consider "heavyweights" (you guys know who I am talking about... ). I eagerly await their presentations.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 14, 2012, 02:12:35 PM
Amazing stuff so far folks, great to see so many great new designs, looks like the competition is doing exactly what the judges hoped it would.

For my entry I decided the the competition didn't have enough rules ;) so I invented some of my own.
1. Build a fuzz pedal with 5 knobs
2. Use a quad opamp
3. No diode clipping

The result is the SuperVixen distortion, fuzz, octaver, noisemaker. It's my homage to people like Tim Escobedo, Devi Ever and Zachary Vex.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/10/9abeqedy.jpg)

Guts
(http://www.eskimo.plus.com/fxstuff/supervixenguts.jpg)

Build docs, schematic and vero layout are here supervixendocs.pdf (http://www.eskimo.plus.com/fxstuff/supervixendocs.pdf)

Youtube proof of life



I'll try and do some soundclips if I get time, the youtube video was only going to be a test to see how my phone picked up the sound, but it turned out alright so I decided to use it.

Enjoy :)


Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 14, 2012, 03:19:03 PM
Sounds great, slacker!  A lot of versatility without a bazillion components!  Another fine entry! :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: davent on November 14, 2012, 03:23:01 PM
To my beat up ear, sounds of Queens of the Stoneage and Grinderman in there.  Nicely done!

dave
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 14, 2012, 03:45:41 PM
It reminds me of some of the fuzzes used by older punk bands. Sounds petty good.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 14, 2012, 04:03:12 PM
Sounds like a Great Destroyer and a Skyripper made a baby!  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 14, 2012, 04:04:33 PM
Bravo Slacker! Glad to have another one of your projects bouncing around. Textured, fun, f'd up, sounds great!

Stoner idea #42033754: Make a multi-fx unit with the Turkey Day Shootout builds. Maybe more of a rack unit type of thing.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 14, 2012, 04:24:36 PM
Quote from: garcho on November 14, 2012, 04:04:33 PM
Bravo Slacker! Glad to have another one of your projects bouncing around. Textured, fun, f'd up, sounds great!

Stoner idea #42033754: Make a multi-fx unit with the Turkey Day Shootout builds. Maybe more of a rack unit type of thing.  ;D

I'll take a haul on that reefer, and MIDI'fy it all. Ppppffffffffffffff.... yeah baby, now THAT'S what I call a fire!  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 14, 2012, 05:07:46 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 14, 2012, 03:45:41 PM
It reminds me of some of the fuzzes used by older punk bands. Sounds petty good.
Punk Sound in a Box (PSIAB)!!!
Also has a real cool '60s acid vibe. The Seeds, Amboy Dukes, etc. come to mind.
At about 1:30 (IIRC) in the video you get a really cool "spitting"sound on the attack of the notes. Nice. Nice. Nice!
Great job Slacker  :icon_cool:  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 14, 2012, 05:45:12 PM
Cheers for the comments chaps, glad you like it.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 14, 2012, 05:57:36 PM
Very versatile, I love that gating effect controlled by the bias knob! Dino and jimi will enjoy listening to this one...

Also, no clipping diodes is a refreshing change  8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 14, 2012, 05:59:13 PM
Quote from: Ronan on November 14, 2012, 05:57:36 PM
Very versatile, I love that gating effect controlled by the bias knob! Dino and jimi will enjoy listening to this one...
jimi pulls out the vero in 3,2,1...  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 14, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
You're not wrong! :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 14, 2012, 06:36:04 PM
Wow to the recent entries!

Ian/Ronan, thanx for reminding me that i have an empty wah-shell here ... in need to be filled. Really great filtering effects.

Ian/Slacker, weird fuzzy thing there! Cool!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 14, 2012, 10:24:57 PM
QuoteDino and jimi will enjoy listening to this one...

You guys have no clue.... :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: WhenBoredomPeaks on November 15, 2012, 03:47:08 AM
I thought about submitting some kind of filter, but it seems like that we will have enough filters. On  the other hand i am not sure that there is such a thing as enough with filters. I am already want to build more stuff from the thread than i have imagined before.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 15, 2012, 04:41:41 AM
^ Yes!  Lots of in in innovative and great sounding pedals. On the other hand, I test fired my board today and its only partially working. Time to debug...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 15, 2012, 05:27:38 AM
@ian: slacker:   cool sounds, i love that squeezed envelope type sound at 1:22.... 8)

good luck guys!!!..keep em coming 8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 15, 2012, 06:42:31 AM
Public Service Announcement
One week left!
Tick, tick, tick, tick...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 15, 2012, 07:51:42 AM
Ok, here goes...

I'm really in awe of all the great pedals we've seen here so far, I'm almost ashamed of posting my entry, but hey, the prizes are just too good not to give it a try.

What I'm hoping to score some points from is that I've made a circuit accessible even to those who've steered clear of the original based on it being a 1590A, and instead I'm presenting a comfortable 1590B build. We've seen it built in B's but mostly the original layout suspended from the wiring. This circuit deserves a layout that sits nicely in a B size enclosure.

The circuit is the lovely Little Angel, renamed to Little Big Angel to celebrate the larger layout. More precisely it's the birthday edition of the Little Angel. I've built two pedals now with onboard pots and led and must say I really like that concept, this time I've collected every wire going to the 3PDT in one place and bragged about it by braiding those wires together. Wires for power are as close to the DC jack as I could fit them. This makes it quite easy to wire this up really clean.

I hope that stating that it's Ricks Little Angel takes care of the reference to the original designer. In an attempt to stop lockups I changed the 100R to a 150R resistor, only to find out that the battery was weak and with proper power it wouldn't lock up, but the 150R is still in there. In the video I'm powering it off an eight pack of penlight batteries, measured to 10.7 volts just prior to the demo.

As for the video, all I can say is that I wish I'd practiced guitar as much as I've practiced drawing layouts in DIYLC. I further wish that the guys from our Birmingham office had been in Sweden yesterday to see the friendly between Zlatan and England (which, by the way, Zlatan won by four goals to two) so I could have freshened up my english (long time since I spoke english).



I believe there was also a requirement to post a picture of the finished build:

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/Perrow_MLP/Builds/Little%20Big%20Angel/DSCN3552.jpg)

... and a gut shot.

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/Perrow_MLP/Builds/Little%20Big%20Angel/DSCN3563.jpg)

This is the layout (I'll post a clickable thumb, it's quite large), I've made a few smaller changes to the layout since I etched mine, all of them (I believe) to the right of the PT2399, removed the ground connection on pin 4 and made room for a coupling cap as close as possible to the power pin on the 2399.

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/Perrow_MLP/Builds/Little%20Big%20Angel/th_LittleBigAngelLayout.png) (http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/Perrow_MLP/Builds/Little%20Big%20Angel/LittleBigAngelLayout.png)

I'll post graphics and drilling template to my wiki in a day or two.
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 15, 2012, 08:54:45 AM
Looks great, I like the sack boy angel.
Zlatan was pretty awesome last night, great assist by Hart for the last goal :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 15, 2012, 09:40:22 AM
@slacker Love the 5 knob fuzz although I would have liked to see 6 knobs  :icon_lol:

@Perrow That is one of the cleanest builds I've ever seen.

Great job guys.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on November 15, 2012, 10:02:10 AM
Perrow, it looks great. Pretty much a perfect layout: board mounted pots and all switch connections at the bottom right next to each other. almost impossible to have a messy box that way! Makes it something a lot of people would be happy to build I'm sure. I was a pretty big fan of your last contest entry, too, for a similar reason ... it was something that would easily end up on a board (if the world didn't end).

My wife crochets amigurumi. Your dinosaur angel reminds me of those. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 15, 2012, 10:28:42 AM
@Pelle- Beautiful, clean build and sounds great!

Extra Points: Nice job on the video editing- switching shots as you narrate and play was a nice touch. Your English is very good (I wish I were poly lingual).  Beautiful flooring!  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 15, 2012, 10:54:53 AM
Quote from: Perrow on November 15, 2012, 07:51:42 AM
... Little Big Angel to celebrate the larger layout.

Great thinking! "More is More" as another famous swede has teached us.

Very clean build mr!

Hej hopp!

Edit: Hmm, #9, right?
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 15, 2012, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: midwayfair on November 15, 2012, 10:02:10 AM
My wife crochets amigurumi. Your dinosaur angel reminds me of those. :)

It's Sackboy from the video game "Little Big Planet", somehow I thought he'd fit nicely on that build with a pair of wings ;D

If we're up to nine entries I fear I might be the first loser :( but then I'm not the one judging this so I might be completely wrong.
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 15, 2012, 11:40:46 AM
Quote from: slacker on November 15, 2012, 08:54:45 AM
Looks great, I like the sack boy angel.
Zlatan was pretty awesome last night, great assist by Hart for the last goal :D

Yeah, he was amazing. Took me til midday today to understand what Hart was trying to do. Sat right above where that happened :)
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 15, 2012, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: Perrow on November 15, 2012, 11:36:56 AM

If we're up to nine entries...

Sorry, i was referring to this #9 as your angel...:

(http://collider.com/wp-content/image-base/Movies/N/Nine_9_Movie/9_character_movie_posters_slice_christopher_plummer_martin_landau_john_c_reilly_crispin_glover_jennifer_connelly_elijah_wood_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 15, 2012, 02:25:41 PM
@pelle:  that is the most pristine build ive ever seen man....@#$%ing hell...thats bordering on surgical....i could eat my dinner off that.. :icon_eek:

cool sounds, and vid....and better english than me... ;D...excellent. ;)


good luck all......
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 15, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
Pelle...

Is that IC giving the competition the finger? If so, nice touch. :icon_mrgreen:

So far, judging this competition has been absolutely brutal, in a great way. Just fantastic work.

OK... back to my score sheets.....
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 16, 2012, 02:28:41 AM
Here's a little update on mine.  Got the board working. There were two traces connected that shouldn't have been. Unfortunately, one needed to be connected on the opposite side of the other, so I had to install a nasty jumper wire.  I don't have time to do another etch. It works now, except for a "sound quality" issue that I think I can fix. I'll probably have to post mine very close to the deadline.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 16, 2012, 02:32:09 AM
I'm rooting for you!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 16, 2012, 02:59:54 AM
Quoteso I had to install a nasty jumper wire.

Don't say that in front of the vero/perf folks!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 16, 2012, 03:49:18 AM
Quote from: digi2t on November 15, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
Pelle...

Is that IC giving the competition the finger? If so, nice touch. :icon_mrgreen:

Now that you mention it...  :icon_eek:

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 16, 2012, 05:04:51 AM
Quote from: Perrow on November 15, 2012, 07:51:42 AM
I'll post graphics and drilling template to my wiki in a day or two.

Decided that the thread I started for graphics would be a better place.

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=97046.msg878441#msg878441 (http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=97046.msg878441#msg878441)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 16, 2012, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: garcho on November 16, 2012, 02:59:54 AM
Quoteso I had to install a nasty jumper wire.

Don't say that in front of the vero/perf folks!  ;D

;D
Jumpers have their place and it's not on the copper side of my pretty PCB. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 16, 2012, 10:00:47 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 16, 2012, 02:28:41 AM
Here's a little update on mine.  Got the board working. There were two traces connected that shouldn't have been. Unfortunately, one needed to be connected on the opposite side of the other, so I had to install a nasty jumper wire.  I don't have time to do another etch. It works now, except for a "sound quality" issue that I think I can fix. I'll probably have to post mine very close to the deadline.

You aren't alone John. I just populated my board last night and I needed a rotary for "something" but I got the wrong one (DP rotaries confused me when I ordered). I'll be lucky to finish in time and with 3 entry fees, that would be a shame! Time to switch gears.....
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: askwho69 on November 16, 2012, 11:07:06 AM
Very teasing guys! really love to join . . . just dont have time to build it super wow :(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 16, 2012, 11:29:38 AM
@ Packrat-yeah, my first PCB design and I learned a few things. Good luck on your project. I'm sure it'll be first rate like the rest of your builds.

@askwho69- hope to see you in the next competition!  (I heard that Greg, Jimi, and Digi want to judge a Christmas competition  :icon_eek: ;) ).
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 16, 2012, 11:57:04 AM
Thanks John, right back at ya. It's funny how these things can really consume your time, I almost forget to eat, almost......
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 16, 2012, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 16, 2012, 02:28:41 AM
Here's a little update on mine.  Got the board working. There were two traces connected that shouldn't have been. Unfortunately, one needed to be connected on the opposite side of the other, so I had to install a nasty jumper wire.

Don't sweat it John, nothing wrong with the odd bodge wire on a prototype layout. Mine has two such nasties, one because I put the IC one space further to the left than it should have been and so ran out of room on that side of the board, didn't notice until I was about half way through the build, the other because I couldn't interpret my own schematic correctly :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 16, 2012, 12:28:50 PM
Quote from: slacker on November 16, 2012, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 16, 2012, 02:28:41 AM
Here's a little update on mine.  Got the board working. There were two traces connected that shouldn't have been. Unfortunately, one needed to be connected on the opposite side of the other, so I had to install a nasty jumper wire.

Don't sweat it John, nothing wrong with the odd bodge wire on a prototype layout. Mine has two such nasties, one because I put the IC one space further to the left than it should have been and so ran out of room on that side of the board, didn't notice until I was about half way through the build, the other because I couldn't interpret my own schematic correctly :icon_redface:

Good to know that I'm in good company!  My mistake was also not interpreting my scheme correctly  :icon_redface:. I'll probably have to make at least one more cut and insert some power filtering components as well. If I have to choose between proper sound and aesthetics, I'll go for the sound. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on November 16, 2012, 12:45:37 PM
Nice job to everybody that has already submitted - those are some very cool designs/pedals and this is certainly going to be a bit of a baptism of fire for me.

For some reason, I thought I would have plenty of time to get a new build done during paternity leave. Funnily enough, that didn't work out, so now I have a simulation that almost works and a half-done layout that is starting to look like it is going to be much bigger than the enclosures I have at hand. Nothing like a deadline to get me to pull my finger out though.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 16, 2012, 12:55:57 PM
Quote from: samhay on November 16, 2012, 12:45:37 PM
Nice job to everybody that has already submitted - those are some very cool designs/pedals and this is certainly going to be a bit of a baptism of fire for me.

For some reason, I thought I would have plenty of time to get a new build done during paternity leave. Funnily enough, that didn't work out, so now I have a simulation that almost works and a half-done layout that is starting to look like it is going to be much bigger than the enclosures I have at hand. Nothing like a deadline to get me to pull my finger out though.


Congrats on the new addition to your family! :D  I imagine that the new little one requires (and demands) a lot of attention.  At least you have your priorities straight. Hopefully your  build will be done in time, but in the grand scheme of things, your child will only be a baby once, but there'll always be stompboxes to build.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 16, 2012, 06:42:44 PM
Congrats on building the ultimate DIY Sam!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 16, 2012, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: pakrat on November 16, 2012, 06:42:44 PM
Congrats on building the ultimate DIY Sam!

That's not DIY.  That takes two ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 16, 2012, 07:45:33 PM
DIWSE?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 16, 2012, 07:52:13 PM
DIWSEOTOS ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 16, 2012, 08:49:08 PM
I'm sorry John, I don't speak spanish  :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 16, 2012, 11:28:42 PM
Quote from: pakrat on November 16, 2012, 08:49:08 PM
I'm sorry John, I don't speak spanish  :D

I was just making a hetero joke.   ::)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 17, 2012, 02:03:58 AM
I was quoting anchorman   ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 17, 2012, 02:32:19 AM
Quote from: pakrat on November 17, 2012, 02:03:58 AM
I was quoting anchorman   ;D

Oh...  I don't know much about nautical stuff.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 17, 2012, 11:01:12 AM
Quote from: pakrat on November 17, 2012, 02:03:58 AM
I was quoting anchorman   ;D
Ron Burgundy?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 17, 2012, 11:21:38 AM
Yes, it was Ron Burgundy

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/010/871/ron_burgundy.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 17, 2012, 01:54:29 PM
Hmm.  He doesn't look like a sailor.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 18, 2012, 02:15:45 AM
One step closer to something to present. I've got my entry sounding pretty close to how I want it. I think I've spent more time on this one effect than I did on all five circuits that went into my entry for the last competition. Now to get the enclosure looking good.

I know that I'll be thankful when I present my turkey and this contest is over. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 18, 2012, 05:17:30 AM
QuoteI know that I'll be thankful when I present my turkey and this contest is over.

Right, so you can get started on the FX-mas contest?  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 18, 2012, 05:36:22 AM
Quote from: garcho on November 18, 2012, 05:17:30 AM
QuoteI know that I'll be thankful when I present my turkey and this contest is over.

Right, so you can get started on the FX-mas contest?  ;D

I don't know if I'm masochistic to do that.  :o
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on November 19, 2012, 12:05:06 AM
Finally got my board etched today.  Tomorrow I start drilling and populating.  This is going to be cutting it super close :icon_twisted: 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 19, 2012, 12:09:10 AM
Quote from: defaced on November 19, 2012, 12:05:06 AM
Finally got my board etched today.  Tomorrow I start drilling and populating.  This is going to be cutting it super close :icon_twisted: 

Seems like everyone had to cut it close this comp.  Lucky for me I don't have too many things that keep me from building. I started as soon as the comp was announced. ;D 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 01:25:02 AM
I'm right there with ya defaced, but I was able to populate most of it last night.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 01:41:41 AM
I actually have one ready, probably get it posted tomorrow. I still need to finish two more  :o
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 19, 2012, 02:17:52 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 19, 2012, 12:09:10 AM
Quote from: defaced on November 19, 2012, 12:05:06 AM
Finally got my board etched today.  Tomorrow I start drilling and populating.  This is going to be cutting it super close :icon_twisted: 

Seems like everyone had to cut it close this comp.  Lucky for me I don't have too many things that keep me from building. I started as soon as the comp was announced. ;D 

I'm cuttin' it pretty close, too...came up with the concept and planned it out in my head the first week and have been tracking down parts & building since then...The only thing that killed a week or more (and some trees) was Sandy.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 19, 2012, 03:39:03 AM
Im Getting close to ready! Gonna do the pour on tonight!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on November 19, 2012, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 19, 2012, 12:09:10 AM
Quote from: defaced on November 19, 2012, 12:05:06 AM
Finally got my board etched today.  Tomorrow I start drilling and populating.  This is going to be cutting it super close :icon_twisted: 

Seems like everyone had to cut it close this comp.  Lucky for me I don't have too many things that keep me from building. I started as soon as the comp was announced. ;D 
That's the thing, so did I.  This build has required two prototypes (complete etched and drilled boards) and a complete re-vamp of how I make boards in order to make the board. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 19, 2012, 09:36:05 AM
Tick, tick, tick, tick.....
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 09:36:49 AM
@LucifersTrip Sandy was a setback to say the least!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 10:39:25 AM
Ok, I'm breaking the trend here because this is not my original circuit, but it is ironic that it is competing against it's creator, slacker  :icon_twisted:. My first entry..... the Echo Base Mini. I called it a mini because I've never seen one in a 1590b enclosure before. I cheated on this one by milling the insides of the box to make the board fit. I included all of the mods I thought would be useful for me. I have to say, this delay sounds really great, and the various mods really make it super versatile. The modulation is weird and awesome especially with the clean kill. This has become my favorite out of the pedals I've built so far.... Thanks so much for this one slacker!
I used anonymousfacelesscoward's layout because it's the smallest one I could find. Some component value changes include swapping the 20k feedback limiting resistor to 100k, and the humbucker friendly mod. I had a lot of trouble etching this one because for some reason PNP blue doesn't stick to the tayda enclosures I have, but finally glossy photo paper worked. The paint is Tamiya clear blue and I'm really happy with the results. Major props to you guys who do 1590A builds, this was a tight squeeze and I can't imagine working inside those tiny things!
Pics:
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Echo%20Base%20Mini/DSC02988.jpg)

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Echo%20Base%20Mini/DSC02977.jpg)

Here it is next to an MXR Phase 90 for scale:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Echo%20Base%20Mini/DSC02998.jpg)

Guts:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Echo%20Base%20Mini/DSC02984.jpg)
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Echo%20Base%20Mini/DSC02983.jpg)

Schematic:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Echo%20Base%20Mini/tbeb2.jpg)

Layout:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Echo%20Base%20Mini/echo_base_pcb.jpg)

Video performed by my buddy Brian Shane:



(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Echo%20Base%20Mini/DSC02987.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: bluebunny on November 19, 2012, 11:02:45 AM
Are you sure the P90 isn't a mock-up in a shoe-box?  ;)  That looks fantastic!   ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 19, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
Nice presentation pakrat  :icon_cool:
Super job of taking an established design and taking it to the "next level".
One Q: I don't see a power input jack in the pix. Was that installed after you took the pix?
BTW; that enclosure is really beautiful. But then again, ALL of the enclosures I have seen you finish are works of art!  ;D
Great stuff. Can't wait to see what else you have in store for this...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 11:29:42 AM
Thanks guys  ;D  The DC jack is on the back, and nothing, I repeat, nothing could be added to this thing "after" lol!
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Echo%20Base%20Mini/DSC02995.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 19, 2012, 11:36:35 AM
Doink! Stupid human moment on my part  :icon_redface:
I see it now. The inner nut gives the appearance an empty hole to my blind a$$.
Sorry 'bout that.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 11:42:45 AM
You aren't blind. Even if I look at the actual pedal it's hard to make out anything it's so packed  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on November 19, 2012, 11:49:13 AM
pakrat, I lurve it. Luuuuurve. The enclosure, the squeezing, the etch, the knobs.

nice playing, too.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 12:01:51 PM
Thank you very much Jon!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 19, 2012, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 10:39:25 AM
....it is competing against it's creator, slacker  :icon_twisted:.

If you don't win anything else you have the dubious honour of creating my new favourite Echo Base build. Great work packing all that in a 1590B, you've got more stuff in there than mine in a BB. 

Quote
My first entry.....

What, give the rest of us a chance :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 12:51:15 PM
Thanks slacker, that really means a lot. Also thank you for this awesome effect, I really love it and can't put it down! I wouldn't worry too much about me squeezing another entry out in time, I haven't even drilled the enclosure yet and the clock is ticking! I was hoping not to waste 2 extra entry fees but it's not so bad since it helps the forum.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 19, 2012, 01:51:05 PM
@ pakrat

I need your first name please. It's for my score sheet, just to make sure that there isn't any confusion. Unless you want me to give your points away to someone else.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 19, 2012, 01:53:13 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 19, 2012, 01:51:05 PM
@ pakrat

I need your first name please. It's for my score sheet, just to make sure that there isn't any confusion. Unless you want me to give your points away to someone else.  ;D

his name is Mike   AKA haveyouseenhim.....LOL   ive been foolin you guise with two names :icon_lol:


Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 01:56:25 PM
Hah nice try Mike. I need all the points I can get! My name is Frank btw...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 19, 2012, 01:57:16 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 19, 2012, 01:53:13 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 19, 2012, 01:51:05 PM
@ pakrat

I need your first name please. It's for my score sheet, just to make sure that there isn't any confusion. Unless you want me to give your points away to someone else.  ;D

his name is Mike   AKA haveyouseenhim.....LOL   ive been foolin you guise with two names :icon_lol:




Guess you wouldn't mind if I give some of your points to pakrat then? Being the same guy and all...  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 19, 2012, 01:59:02 PM
 :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 19, 2012, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 19, 2012, 01:59:02 PM
:icon_eek:

Thought so....

:icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 19, 2012, 02:08:56 PM
Quote from: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 11:29:42 AM

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Echo%20Base%20Mini/DSC02995.jpg)

This must be the most beautiful enclosure so far in this contest. And i dont have a clue how u can manage to make it two colored like that when u etch. Nice!

Great sounding unit as well!

Cheers
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 19, 2012, 02:12:47 PM
I would LOVE to etch my enclosure for my Ludwig build but sadly.... I SUCK AT ETCHING!  :icon_evil:  :'(  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 02:27:35 PM
@Vallhagen Thank you very much! The paint is clear blue, so it is transparent. That's why you can still see the black under it.

@Gov I think the trick is really in the prep and making sure the image is 100% transferred. I hope someday I can get my etches to look as good as some of the others I've seen.... slade, deadastronaut to name a few.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 19, 2012, 08:24:18 PM
@ Packrat- Beautiful etch and paint job, nice compact build, and great sound!   :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Beo on November 19, 2012, 10:52:59 PM
Official Entry, by Travis Pike aka Beo, in Seattle

Well, the holidays are a great time to veg out on movies, especially the classics. My pedal integrates three well-known and well-acclaimed circuits, and I have tried to pay homage to them (without being too obvious) with some abstractly related movie themed graphics, which I have adapted for etching. I also used this build to work on my Eagle layout skills, trying to get all three circuits laid out cleanly on a single board, with on board pots and well isolated ground paths.

My submission is a triple combo pedal, with three overdrive circuits in one. These are three circuits I always wanted to build and play. Also, I'm a big Trey Anastasio fan, he uses dual Tube Screamers for his dirt tones. While this pedal doesn't have any tube screamers (I've already built a few of those), I was curious how these three different overdrive circuits would interact with each other when stacked.

For my video demo, I have all three ODs set up with the similar level and gain, for comparison purposes (ignore the knob positions in the pics). I have a lot of fine tuning to do, but I'll likely set up my two favorite as low-medium gain, or med-high gains, and have the third OD set to boost when stacked. At bedroom levels, it's hard to tell how well these pedals would differentiate from each other when amp is cranked up. However, even at these lower levels each circuit does seem to have it's own tone and characteristics, with all three giving nice and very usable dirt. Stacking gets to high gain craziness with ease.

Right now, I'd say my favorite is The Enchanter, with the Psycho Drive a close second. So far I'm not nearly as taken with Top Secret, but I need to play with it some more. I notice the original designers have a MKII out and I suspect I might like the changes they have implemented.

Anyways, enough rambling. Here are the pics:

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h359/travispike/TriOD001.jpg)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h359/travispike/TriOD002.jpg)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h359/travispike/TriOD005.jpg)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h359/travispike/TriOD007.jpg)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h359/travispike/TriOD008.jpg)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h359/travispike/TriOD009.jpg)

Here's the component layout. I haven't provided the full schematic and layout with components identified. The schematics are out there for anyone wanting to build any of these.

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h359/travispike/TriOD.jpg)

And of course, here's the demo. I'm mostly a rhythm player.. after twenty years, I still can't play lead to save my life. Hopefully I don't get docked points for my crappy playing!

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 20, 2012, 02:03:53 AM
Overdrive-mania!  Awesome etch!  My order of favorites is the same as yours. Great job!

BTW- 3:39 in the video, "Travis"! ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 20, 2012, 02:16:16 AM
Really clean, inside and out. The board mounted pots and single board really make it nice n' neat in there. The etch and coloring both look great with a nice demo as well. Very cool pedal Travis
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 20, 2012, 03:08:44 AM
What can I say...the entries just keep blowing me away... chugga chugga chugga chug.
Really good stuff being presented :D great work by all
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 20, 2012, 03:15:38 AM
@pakrat: (frank)   :icon_eek:  are you insane?...you got all that in there, and have an incredible etch/paint job too....great work man!!!.. :icon_cool: :icon_cool: :icon_cool:

@beo: really nice build/design man...great etch graphics too..(the enchanter=monty python?). :icon_cool: :icon_cool: :icon_cool:


i don't envy the judges that's for sure!..


good luck all of ya!!!.. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 20, 2012, 08:02:31 AM
nearing completion...I can almost relax....


(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/artgallery.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 20, 2012, 08:54:58 AM
Remote switching?  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 20, 2012, 09:10:24 AM
Hey Lucifer, Nice exhibit. Where is that?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 20, 2012, 09:11:08 AM
Is this one of those "Where is Waldo's pedal" kind of puzzles?  :P
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on November 20, 2012, 09:39:22 AM
^ You guys are all wrong. That's the ENCLOSURE. It's LT's first Fuzz/Reverb hybrid.

Nice entry, Beo! Can I ask where you got those little color-coded rings around your switches? I can't figure out what any of them are except The Enchanter, though. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 20, 2012, 11:31:57 AM
Quote from: pakrat on November 19, 2012, 02:27:35 PM
The paint is clear blue, so it is transparent. That's why you can still see the black under it.

Ah, i see. Very cool. I didnt even know that there existed such a product as transparent spray paint. Learning new stuff every day...



Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Beo on November 20, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on November 20, 2012, 09:39:22 AM
Nice entry, Beo! Can I ask where you got those little color-coded rings around your switches? I can't figure out what any of them are except The Enchanter, though. :)

Those rings are plastic screw washers that come with Raxxess Rack Screws. I widened the holes to fit around the toggle switch screws, hand painted with acrylic paint and clearcoated.
(http://www.americanmusical.com/ItemImages/Large/RAX%20PTSWX%20LIST.JPG)

The enchanter image is definitely Monte Python. I was quite obsessed with the Psycho Drive. And I felt a little dirty including the Top Secret OD. (hints for what should be obvious)

The other skill I think I'm getting pretty good at is working images and fonts in Adobe Illustrator, to convert to black/white etching. Even greyscale images can be transformed into clean etching boundaries, with level of detail reduced for clean etchable designs. Vector graphics are fun to play with, to tailor the spacings in the design to be sure the FeCl doesn't eat through the detail. I searched for fonts that seemed well suited for these three concepts, and converted the characters to vector objects so that the characters could be spaced, sized and aligned better.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 20, 2012, 12:56:34 PM
Quote from: Beo on November 20, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on November 20, 2012, 09:39:22 AM
Nice entry, Beo! Can I ask where you got those little color-coded rings around your switches? I can't figure out what any of them are except The Enchanter, though. :)

Those rings are plastic screw washers that come with Raxxess Rack Screws. I widened the holes to fit around the toggle switch screws, hand painted with acrylic paint and clearcoated.
(http://www.americanmusical.com/ItemImages/Large/RAX%20PTSWX%20LIST.JPG)

The enchanter image is definitely Monte Python. I was quite obsessed with the Psycho Drive. And I felt a little dirty including the Top Secret OD. (hints for what should be obvious)

The other skill I think I'm getting pretty good at is working images and fonts in Adobe Illustrator, to convert to black/white etching. Even greyscale images can be transformed into clean etching boundaries, with level of detail reduced for clean etchable designs. Vector graphics are fun to play with, to tailor the spacings in the design to be sure the FeCl doesn't eat through the detail. I searched for fonts that seemed well suited for these three concepts, and converted the characters to vector objects so that the characters could be spaced, sized and aligned better.

Now THAT is resourceful!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 20, 2012, 04:13:18 PM
@oldschoolanalog  - modern art gallery in LA
@Govmnt_Lacky - yes
@midwayfair - 50% yes
Title: Demon Mojo Power Fuzz
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 20, 2012, 04:46:50 PM
This one is dedicated to the vintage freaks, the analog nuts, the old school crazies and anyone who likes their effects mean & nasty...

As with my previous contest build, I wanted to create something like I've never seen before and something that is a complete piece of artwork, both inside and out.

You guys seem to enjoy the "process" and I did take pics along the way to help me out, so...
I came up with the concept shortly after the contest announcement and slowly developed a picture of it in my head during the week. I decided to build an original fuzz with massively asymmetrical clipping such that changing the orientation with a simple flip would give me a completely different tone. Then, to make things much more difficult, I decided to use as many vintage parts as possible...further, I decided to go completely over the top (why not, I painted the last pedal in real blood)...and build it true point to point (no perf, no standard turret-type layout) featuring "super mojo" parts that would make "standard mojo" look like child's play...and there was no better way to start than with power transistors!

I breadboarded and tweaked and tweaked for around 2 weeks or so. There were three problems. First, power transistors are not known for high gains. I measured close to 100 before I found ones with usable hfe's.  Secondly, the monster transistors were a bit too large to easily fit on my breadboard, so they had to be attached via alligator clips off board, floating....and lastly, getting a killer tone with the asymmetric clipping in both positions. It wasn't too difficult to get one position to sound great and it would've been easy to come up with two completely different diode configurations, but I wanted to do a simple flip. Figuring out how to do that and keep the volume similar in both directions with no other alterations turned out to be tough.

One of numerous scraps of notes (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-notes.jpg)

Almost one month gone (finished) and the next big challenge begins...Pull all the parts off the breadboard and find near-exact equivalents in "super mojo" parts. I purposefully designed the circuit with as many common values as possible knowing that this was next.

After another 3 - 4 weeks, I was able to salvage almost all the parts I needed. I ripped apart loads of vintage electronics, scoured hamfests, antique radio swap meets and found some in bins of stuff I already had. A big difficulty was finding very close values. After I spent weeks on the breadboard getting this thing to kill, I didn't want to sub a 100K modern with a 91K from the 1950's...the goal was 2%.

========================
Anyway, here're some pics of the cast of characters:

Parts 1 (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-parts1.jpg)

1) 1960's Aerovox axial lead oil capacitors
2) 1960's Kemet axial lead capacitors
3) 1950's 1/2 watt, 1 watt and 2 watt resistors

Parts 2 (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-parts1a.jpg)

4) 1960's Blue Molded axial lead capacitor. These are famous & sought after replacements for vintage Fender amps. I actually pulled these from a destroyed vintage Lowrey organ
5) A Japanese Koaohm 2 watt hollow body resistor from the 1950's. These were commonly found in antique radios.
6) Military glass case 1% resistors from the 1960's. These were used at the Philco plant
7) 1960's CGW resistor, also used at the Philco plant

Parts 3 (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-parts2.jpg)

8) A pair of vintage 1960's Alan Bradley pots. The left one has an on/off switch which I actually used in the pedal for power instead of a stereo input jack. Pulled from old ham radio.
9) Monster size vintage jewel from the 1960's or 1970's. Pulled from old communications device
10) Vintage 1960's light holder (similar to ones used in vintage Fender amps) with vintage 6 volt bulb, also from the 1960's. Pulled from unknown military device.
11) Monster size 1960's heavy duty DPDT switch pulled from military communications device
12) Vintage 1970's or 1980's phenolic jacks from local company that went out of business in the 80's. These are heavier duty than the equivalent Switchcrafts
13) Vintage 1950's large glass case germanium diodes

Parts 4 (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-parts3.jpg)

14) Vintage 1970's (???) power transistor sockets
15) 1960's General electric axial lead capacitor, not polarized!

Parts 5 (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-parts4.jpg)

16) vintage 1970's or early 80's wire. I painted em gray and left the sides white for an old splattered look, to match the speckled interior of the pedal.

Parts 6 (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-parts5.jpg)

17) Five-ply hardwood from the 1960's
18) Vintage 1960's or early 70's turret type strip
19) Screws pulled from 1960's power transistors

The transistors themselves are mostly in the 30 - 35 year-old range...and one only a couple decades old.

Comparison (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-parts6-compare.jpg)

20) A quick comparison of some of the breadboarded components and the mojo ones
========================

After much searching, I dug up a 1970's enclosure (5 3/4" X 4 " X 2 3/8") that housed some type of ham or military communications device. I ripped all the components out, which of course, left many unwanted holes on the front and back faces. I tracked down some 1960's five-ply wood (maple or birch?) and made new front and back faceplates....then attached them with screws and nuts pulled from power transistors in another vintage 1960's amplification device. This is the most amount of holes I had to drill for any single-effect pedal...24 holes total top & bottom! I painted it textured black with silver speckles.

Here's the top:

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-top-before.jpg)

Then, I mounted the transistors and turret strips on either side and did a point to point with those monsters, trying to keep most parts visible so none of the beauty was lost. Any time bare wires crossed, vintage 1960's shrink tubing was used. The p2p was done over a period of a few days.  

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-top-before1.jpg)

For the bottom, as I wrote, I made new wooden facepates to cover the holes from the old components and painted those gray with silver speckles.  I mounted 2 more turret strips on either side and installed the 1950's germanium diodes. Here's the bottom with the jacks, switch, pots, light holder (with 27 ohm 2 watt limiting resistor) and solid metal knobs from the 70's (or possibly early 80's). The pots and switch fit to within 1/32 of an inch !

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-bottom-before2a.jpg)

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-bottom-before2.jpg)

Then, I wired it with the wire that I painted to match the speckled interior. That particular wire was used since it's "softer" and more flexible than most and I knew that I had to wire between top and bottom:

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-guts3.jpg)

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-guts4.jpg)

For those daring enough to try this, in the tradition of keeping this completely old school, here's the custom, hand-drawn layout:

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-layout1.jpg)

Schematic (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-schematic.jpg)


And here's the final nightmare:


(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-top1.jpg)

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-top2.jpg)

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-front.jpg)

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-top-back.jpg)

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-top-front.jpg)


The vintage bulb was used for a couple reasons. Other than the obvious fact that I wanted a vintage mojo part in there, I also wanted to take advantage of the vents on the sides. A bright bulb in there creates a totally cool fanning out effect in the dark.

In the dark:
(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-indark.jpg)

In the dark with special "night setting":
(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-nightshot.jpg)

========================

The left knob is volume and the right is attack/fuzz/saturation/sustain. Like many of the vintage fuzzes (especially the 1.5V ones), I used a volume pot with an on/off switch, so I no longer needed a stereo input jack. The center switch flips the diode block to give two completely different tones: one is a fat, heavy, richer tone great for stoner, doom, etc....and the other is a dirty, mean and nasty tone great for 60's garage.  The fuzz knob goes from slight breakup & gating to full blown monstrosity.

Fender 2002 Mexican Strat , Fender Stage 112, Shure 57, Steve Kendus (guitar)

0:00 (clean / switch right, fuzz 100%)
1:09 (switch left, fuzz 0% / 33% / 66% / 100%)
4:00 (switch right, fuzz 0% / 33% / 66% / 100%)

I placed small temporary markers on the knobs so you can see em turn.

Play very loud:



Recap (a quick comparison between the two tones):

0:00 (setting 1, left)
0:57 (setting 2, right)



Deleted scene:
(guitar LT)





Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on November 20, 2012, 05:16:14 PM
That's bitchin. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 20, 2012, 05:30:58 PM
That is friggin' sick!
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 20, 2012, 05:56:55 PM
That's insane, sounds amazing, good work Sir.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 20, 2012, 06:48:08 PM
 :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
I knew you would come up with something different and unique but that's just off the charts!
The sound if Doom and Destruction. "Death Sound in a Box".  :icon_twisted:
A pedal truly fitting somebody called LucifersTrip. Just sick, sick, sick...
The old school style really rocks too. Great pedal & presentation.
Major props.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 20, 2012, 06:49:20 PM
ATTENTION ENTRANTS!!

If you are entered in the contest and your forum name is NOT on the following list, I need you to PM me with your forum name AND your given name.

Apparently, some of you did not provide your forum name to Aron when he requested it.

haveyouseenhim
Jdansti
Ronan
garcho
slacker
pakrat
midwayfair
Vallhagen
LucifersTrip
defaced
Beo
Mustachio
Perrow
samhay

Please reply by PM as soon as possible. We don't want ANYONE to get missed.

EDIT: As of now, I still have 3 people that are MIA!! A little over 48 hours left until submission deadline  :icon_eek:

EDIT2: As of 21 November morning, I STILL have 1 person out there that I need a user name for. You know who you are! Come forth and report!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on November 20, 2012, 07:52:20 PM
 ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)

LT, next time I think I went "out of my way" to find something, I will think of your entry and know that I have it easy.

Utterly unbelievable dedication and everything about it is first rate work.

I'm rooting for this one.

Edit: You also get points for the absolute freaking best teaser. Hiding it in the painting! Genius!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 20, 2012, 08:15:32 PM
Jon, you should get points for actually seeing that! Really great job LT, everything about your entry is just beautiful.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 20, 2012, 08:16:52 PM
>You also get points for the absolute freaking best teaser. Hiding it in the painting! Genius!
Great eye! Didn't notice that. Thanx for pointing it out.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 20, 2012, 09:02:24 PM
Thanx alot for all the comments...ironically, when I showed it to people around here I got the same responses (sick, insane)....it was a labor of love.

@midwayfair - congrats...first one to find the hidden stompbox!



==========================
Btw, here's a few reference & sale links I bookmarked during the last couple months..funny looking back...I would've been broke if I actually bought some of those parts instead of salvaging.

Power Transistor Sockets (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-POWER-TRANSISTOR-MOUNTING-SOCKETS-LOOK-/360387871108?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e8ca8184)

Power Transistor Mounting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNRacVQRgBc) (of course, I didn't need the heatsink)

Alan Bradley 500K Pot (no switch) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-NOS-ALLEN-BRADLEY-AB-500K-TYPE-J-POT-POTENTIOMETER-LINEAR-L-TAPER-/150688087691)

Blue Molded caps (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-AJAX-Blue-Molded-Capacitors-177-pcs-400-volt-/320692528435?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4aaac3a533)

Glass Jewel (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rare-Large-RED-GLASS-JEWEL-CUT-REFLECTOR-Bike-Motorcycle-OLD-Stud-Mount-/230873277347?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35c11ea3a3&vxp=mtr)

Glass resistors (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-237-A-7320-7-32K-OHM-VINTAGE-GLASS-ENCASED-RESISTOR-NOS-NEW-/130706358499?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1e6eb4c0e3)

Kemet Caps (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-KEMET-22UF-35V-20-VINTAGE-TANTALUM-CAPACITOR-NOS-NEW-/130673758809?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1e6cc35259)

IN55A Diode (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Sylvania-1N55A-Diode-NOS-Germanium-Diode-Glass-Bead-1960-Date-Code-/261066150267?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc8c1517b)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 20, 2012, 09:08:08 PM
@LucifersTrip: You know jimi is going to need a healthy dose of "wood be gone" after seeing/hearing your entry.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 20, 2012, 09:13:30 PM
^ :icon_mrgreen:

@lucy  that's SOOO sick.   Although I'll have to dock points for not collecting and using 'vintage solder' from that keyboard.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 20, 2012, 09:50:14 PM
thanx again...

you won't believe this, but I forgot to mention that I actually did use vintage solder:

(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/demonmojo1/demonmojo-solder.jpg)

I believe it's from the 60's or 70's. It's my favorite, Ersin Multicore, SN60, 18SWG, .048
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 20, 2012, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: LucifersTrip on November 20, 2012, 09:50:14 PM
thanx again...
you won't believe this, but I forgot to mention that I actually did use vintage solder:

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/1339093296826.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 21, 2012, 03:25:10 AM
Great build LT!  I love the vintage parts and the sound!  Who'd have thought all those years ago that those parts would end up in a guitar pedal many years in the future.  BTW, it's probably the only pedal in the competition that most if not all of its parts were made in the USA (or at least not in China ;) ).
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 21, 2012, 03:55:41 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on November 20, 2012, 06:49:20 PM
If you are entered in the contest and your forum name is NOT on the following list, I need you to PM me with your forum name AND your given name.

PM sent, did send PM to Aron after paying the entry fee, guess it got lost.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 21, 2012, 04:03:40 AM
Thanx....It is funny. When I was building it, I realized that I was using parts that were created before any fuzz actually existed. Can't imagine that the pre-"Leave it to Beaver" era manufacturers would ever believe where their product would wind up...

Regarding being made in the USA, I had to take a hit on the 3PDT. I needed that 6 volt bulb !
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 21, 2012, 04:21:21 AM
@lucifer:  it had to be a fuzz right!... ;)

nice proper vintage mojo work and detail on that...the jewel lamp is a great touch....excellent!..

i like the trannies on top too...cool use of holes... 8) 8) 8)


good luck fella's.. :)

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on November 21, 2012, 05:57:34 AM
QuoteIf you are entered in the contest and your forum name is NOT on the following list, I need you to PM me with your forum name AND your given name.
Sorry - PM sent.

Wow - some more amazing builds. If Jr behaves himself tonight, it's possible I will get my build finished - only need to populate the board and do all the wiring.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 21, 2012, 06:35:36 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 21, 2012, 04:21:21 AM
@lucifer:  it had to be a fuzz right!... ;)

of course(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/smiley-green-darkgrayback.jpg)....I knew they'd be underrepresented in today's modern age!  actually, anything with transistors in general are underrepresented.

Quote
nice proper vintage mojo work and detail on that...the jewel lamp is a great touch....excellent!..

that eliminated the possibility of batteries....

Quote
i like the trannies on top too...cool use of holes... 8) 8) 8)

...and that eliminated the possibility of germs. can you imagine what would've happened if you just touched em.

but the cool thing is that I can check collector voltages without opening the box !   for any of you not familiar with power transistors, the metal casing IS the collector...

thanx alot
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 21, 2012, 07:55:35 AM
11 entries so far.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 21, 2012, 07:57:18 AM
@Luce - I need you first name please. It's for my score sheet. Thx.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 21, 2012, 08:41:44 AM
don't forget, the winner will recieve a ''special'' bonus picture of a sausage on a fork too!!!. :icon_eek:

ok, ok, stop gettng too excited about it.. ;D







Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 21, 2012, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 21, 2012, 08:41:44 AM
don't forget, the winner will recieve a ''special'' bonus picture of a sausage on a fork too!!!. :icon_eek:

ok, ok, stop gettng too excited about it.. ;D

I like how you promise to mutilate yourself to reduce the likelihood of further entries, but you also have me fearing I'll win :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 21, 2012, 10:19:04 AM
 :D ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 21, 2012, 10:25:48 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 21, 2012, 08:41:44 AM
don't forget, the winner will recieve a ''special'' bonus picture of a sausage on a fork too!!!. :icon_eek:

ok, ok, stop gettng too excited about it.. ;D

I hope the winner holds you to that Rob....
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 21, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 21, 2012, 10:19:04 AM
:D ;)

Well, you did say it was going to be "special" ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 21, 2012, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on November 20, 2012, 09:08:08 PM
@LucifersTrip: You know jimi is going to need a healthy dose of "wood be gone" after seeing/hearing your entry.

shit, i'm gonna need a doctor, the priapism has set in.

lu....dude. NICE. ;)

you guys...ALL you guys are amazing...this judging thing is harder than i'd ever imagined, i like all the entries so far!!!

a couple tho, stand above the rest... but just barely.

not tipping my hand yet.

amazing!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 21, 2012, 06:11:43 PM
I would like to know how everyone would feel if I was able to squeeze out another entry. I bought 3 entries because at the time we didn't have enough to move forward with this competition. I didn't intend or even think I'd be able to enter more than one project, but it looks like I could make it if I finish assembly tonight. Basically, if anyone feels it would be unfair for me to post another entry, please let me know.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 21, 2012, 06:18:54 PM
F*** fair, just do it! This place is about building stuff, right? If I 'loose' my 10 bucks, which is barely the price of 2 beers at the bar, because you built 3 awesome pedals, then more power to you. Just means I have to sharpen my game triple.   ;)

By the way, super righteous builds y'all, what an impressive crew.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 21, 2012, 06:21:10 PM
I say go for it. Why wouldn't it be fair? Nobody complained when you put up your $$$. And it seems well within the rules.
Greg? jimi? Dino?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 21, 2012, 06:24:03 PM
^ +1
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 21, 2012, 06:26:23 PM
in my opinion as a judge, which of course i must remain with my brothers if their opinion differs, if you paid an entry fee, you enter a project. you pay three entry fees, i see absolutely nothing in the guidelines to suggest that couldn't triple your winning odds. if you can pull off three entries, i have zero problem with that, and tho it is indeed impressive, i don't think it impacts the contest negatively. you pays yo money, you takes yo chances.

i mean, your pedals could suck. ;) or be brilliant. ;)

or anywhere in between. i'm absolutely NOT paying attention to WHO makes the pedals. only the pedals matter to me. play terrible, freekin' wail, i don't care. and i think greg and dino will agree.

so to me, an entry is an entry, with no prejudice towards any of the entrants, and a refusal to accept prejudice brought by others.

judge each entry...not entrant...on their own merits. it's a lot harder than it seems, with so many amazing entries by some super talented dudes...things i WANT to add to MY arsenal so far, every one. (i'm sick like that).

so...as long as dino and greg agree with me, that the entry matters, not the entrant, i believe you are good to go.

get 'em in guys, and make sure aron has your info please!!

thanks to everyone for making this such a cool freekin' scene. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 21, 2012, 06:35:34 PM
Thanks for chiming in guys. I guess it's on then, and I'm glad because I worked my A$$ off on this one  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 21, 2012, 06:37:57 PM
I'm good with the multiple entry. After all, the fees are paid, and the pedal will be judged, as like all the rest. We never imposed a one entry per person rule, at least not to my knowledge.

Bring it on, times a wastin'

Dino
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 21, 2012, 07:13:52 PM
>i mean, your pedals could suck.
This I seriously doubt.  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 21, 2012, 07:34:10 PM
Thanks Dave, I will certainly try not to suck!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 22, 2012, 02:31:11 AM
You pay, you can play. :)

Quote from: pakrat on November 21, 2012, 07:34:10 PM
Thanks Dave, I will certainly try not to suck!

I'll have enough suckage for everyone.

Maybe I should rephrase that- my project and guitar playing will suck plenty.  ::)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 22, 2012, 03:02:17 AM
Multiple entries is fine. Govt Lacky stated that a while back.

John, are you gonna make it?? I think Mustachio has something nearly ready too. Also defaced, samhay, and I wouldn't be surprised if DA throws in a last-minute hand-grenade.

I could finish my Plan A project by the deadline, but don't have the capability to do a video clip in time.

Just out of interest, in how many hours is the deadline from now? I am in a different time zone so not sure. Its 6pm on 22nd Nov right now where I live.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 22, 2012, 03:25:38 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 22, 2012, 02:31:11 AM
Maybe I should rephrase that- my project and guitar playing will suck plenty.  ::)
Once again, I have serious doubts about that statement.  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Do your video at the dinner table if you have to John. Tell your family it's Thanksgiving entertainment.
If there is any backlash tell them some psycho from NY (me) made you do it.  ;D

@Ian:This should help:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 22, 2012, 03:53:26 AM
I have to agree with Dave.... how can the inventor of the toilet seat amp suck in any way?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 22, 2012, 04:01:14 AM
@ John   If you care about comedy you will film the demo on the toilet. And I'm not talking about odius max :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 22, 2012, 04:11:10 AM
Yeah John, I'm with Dave on this. Besides, if you're nervous, just check out this guy doing a demo for YATS:



You gonna let him win?!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 22, 2012, 04:33:09 AM
@ronan:  no last minute grenades from me i'm afraid...so all your limbs will be fine.... ;D

though that was my intention.. ;D ;)

i'm still tweaking ...almost there, but way too late for the comp.. ::)

Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 22, 2012, 04:34:42 AM
You comfortable revealing details d'Astro?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 22, 2012, 04:38:35 AM
yeah no problemo...but i'll not hijack the comp thread..

it'll be up n running soon-ish.....all will be revealed!!!!..but don't expect too much from my usual dumbass experiments.. ;)........beep.................................beep................................
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 22, 2012, 05:14:16 AM
Well, I was looking forward to your guitar playing...all will be revealed in due course then, that will do fine  :)

Another edit: maybe after the comp we could have a show of "the ones that didn't quite make it on time"
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 22, 2012, 05:40:20 AM
Quote from: Ronan on November 22, 2012, 05:14:16 AM
...maybe after the comp we could have a show of "the ones that didn't quite make it on time"
Great idea. The prize for that should be a large, glossy, suitable for framing photo of the infamous "Sausage on a Fork"!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 22, 2012, 05:46:11 AM
I dunno if I'd like to win that one Dave ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 22, 2012, 05:56:31 AM
Almost ready! About to make the video after one last tweak. And gotta put together the build docs a lil better. Didn't see my name on the list earlier from Gov'mnt so I pm'd him. Should be posting soon, It's 5am my time haha Last minute stretch!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 22, 2012, 06:52:26 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 22, 2012, 04:38:35 AM
yeah no problemo...but i'll not hijack the comp thread..

it'll be up n running soon-ish.....all will be revealed!!!!..but don't expect too much from my usual dumbass experiments.. ;)........beep.................................beep................................

I'm just calculating a trajectory thru "Tiny Trem" -> "Spitfire" -> "Light Wah", I can't quite see what it'll be, but I'll be dissapointed if the trend is broken  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 22, 2012, 06:59:19 AM
Quote from: Perrow on November 22, 2012, 06:52:26 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 22, 2012, 04:38:35 AM
yeah no problemo...but i'll not hijack the comp thread..

it'll be up n running soon-ish.....all will be revealed!!!!..but don't expect too much from my usual dumbass experiments.. ;)........beep.................................beep................................

I'm just calculating a trajectory thru "Tiny Trem" -> "Spitfire" -> "Light Wah", I can't quite see what it'll be, but I'll be dissapointed if the trend is broken  ;)

A pedal that injects astronaut beeps at the end of each phrase  :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 22, 2012, 07:25:21 AM
C'mon. You know you want this work of art!
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/sausage.jpeg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 22, 2012, 07:45:04 AM
oi!..thats copyrighted... :icon_eek:

note to members:  image above is ''actual size''. t&c's apply. warning: may contain sausage ;D




Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 22, 2012, 07:58:35 AM
Guess I'll be hearing from your legal team soon. Tell them to queue up.   :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: GGBB on November 22, 2012, 08:17:46 AM
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

For my entry, I would like to present the Full Face Fuzz.

This is my second pedal build.  I was originally inspired to try pedal building by RG Keen's "The Technology of the Fuzz Face" article, but somewhere along the way to my first build I got more excited about tremolos than fuzzes and went in a different direction.  So for my second pedal I went back to my first inspiration.

This won't win any awards for ingenuity as it's basically a standard fuzz, but I think it is a fairly uncommon blend of fuzz features.  I decided to go with a high gain NPN silicon design so I am using BC108C transistors.  Beyond that, I liked so many things about so many different fuzzes that I incorporated a bunch of mods making this into a five knob and one switch fuzz.  The Mike Fuller mods and Fulltone fuzzes and the Joe Gagan Easy Face were the main fuzzes I was most interested in, so the name comes from there - "Full" is from Mike Fuller, "Face" is from the Joe Gagan Easy Face (as well as just from Fuzz Face).  From the Easy Face I have taken the input cap blend control ("Low" knob) with 4n7 and 3u3 caps.  I also added an input gain/bias control ("Sat" saturation knob) that is on a switch to toggle between Easy Face Gain mode and Fulltone 69 Bias mode.  I've also put in a tone control ("High" knob) which started out as a Fulltone Mids/Contour knob - that idea came from this forum.  Other additions to the stock fuzz face circuit include input mods, power supply filtering and reverse polarity protection, and an anti-oscillation cap - also ideas from this forum.  The General Guitar Gadgets site was a big factor too, having the five different fuzzes all in one place for comparison.

The layout is original - for some strange reason I enjoy doing layouts more than anything else.  Schematic, layout, pics, and demo video are below.  Not sure if this is normal but it seems like the sound quality in the video tends to make the changes in the pedal settings sound less dramatic than they really are.  I hope you enjoy it - I had fun doing this and although I am certain it won't be a winner, I feel honored to just be in this thing with so many awesome entries.  Hey - someone has to finish last - why not me?


(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z460/GGBB1/Pedals/Fuzz/FullFaceFuzz_GGBB_Side.jpg)
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z460/GGBB1/Pedals/Fuzz/FullFaceFuzz_GGBB_Top.jpg)
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z460/GGBB1/Pedals/Fuzz/FullFaceFuzz_GGBB_Rear.jpg)
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z460/GGBB1/Pedals/Fuzz/FullFaceFuzz_GGBB_Guts2.jpg)
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z460/GGBB1/Pedals/Fuzz/FullFaceFuzz_GGBB_Guts1.jpg)
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z460/GGBB1/Pedals/Fuzz/FullFaceFuzz_GGBB_PCB.jpg)
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z460/GGBB1/Pedals/Fuzz/FullFaceFuzz_GGBB_Schematic.png)
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z460/GGBB1/Pedals/Fuzz/FullFaceFuzz_GGBB_Layout.png)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 22, 2012, 08:41:23 AM
@gord:   cool design, for a second there i thought you had leds around the pots...

:icon_cool: :icon_cool: :icon_cool:


btw whats the led on the guitar for?..sustainer?....or is it a trick of the light?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: GGBB on November 22, 2012, 08:46:42 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 22, 2012, 08:41:23 AM
@gord:   cool design, for a second there i thought you had leds around the pots...

:icon_cool: :icon_cool: :icon_cool:


btw whats the led on the guitar for?..sustainer?....or is it a trick of the light?

Thanks Rob.  Trick of the light - the control plate is reflecting the blue light on the front of my computer.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 22, 2012, 09:25:05 AM
Beautiful ! That's only your second build! WOW ! Great job great sound !

Mines almost done. All these entry's have been so good I'm embarrassed to throw in mine. But Ill be embarrassing myself shortly just have to upload the video and pics. Then sleep a few hours before turkey! I'm exhausted.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 22, 2012, 09:54:20 AM
ATTENTION CONTESTANTS!!

If you are a last minute entry... PLEASE PM me as soon as possible so I may confirm your entry fee with Aron. DONT GET LEFT OUT!!!

14 hours to go!!  :icon_eek:

I STILL HAVE ONE ENTRANT THAT I NEED THEIR FORUM HANDLE. INITIALS ARE J.B. PLEASE CONTACT ME A.S.A.P.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: GGBB on November 22, 2012, 09:55:41 AM
Thanks Jim.

Quote from: Mustachio on November 22, 2012, 09:25:05 AMAll these entry's have been so good I'm embarrassed to throw in mine.

I know that feeling! I'm came pretty close to throwing in the towel myself after seeing all the early entries and hitting some 11th hour hurdles.  Mainly I just wanted to give a little back to this community since it has given me so much enjoyment.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 22, 2012, 10:15:15 AM
All the entry's have been awesome and inspiring! You guys are genius's. 

I almost didn't make it! I for some reason thought I had till the 24th ! hahaha Then I realized It was sooner. Right before I was about to record a video I was talking some pictures and after about 10 pics I realized I still had the original white washer on the foot switch! I had hand drawn on a metal washer with a etch resistant pen and forgot to etch it! So at about 7am I took it apart and etched the washer haha!

I'm super tired and maybe standing over the etching tray to long made me sound funny. In the Video I sound like Ray Ramano Eating peanut butter hahaha. Sorry I should have turned off my vocal mic when I was playing . the recording is just mics set for flat response nothing added. Lots of room sound. I usually like to only have 1 mic on the amp cab to keep from string flopping sounds. But its not to bad.

My entry is the Mutron Micro V modified to use both half's of an LM13700 for the OTA. I built It in one of the new Smallbear BearBoxes! Its really a great new enclosure! I designed all the graphics from scratch using Adobe illustrator and Photoshop. Printed on sticker paper, applied, and used Pour-on over it all for the thick clear coat. (orange LED to match)

I used the original schematic from effects data base

http://files.effectsdatabase.com/docs/schematics/musitronics_mu-tronmicrov.jpg

And the Schematic at pisotones

http://www.pisotones.com/MuTron_Micro-V/Mutron-Micro-V.htm

I used ExpressPCB to draw the layout

Big Thanks to Ronan for helping me so much! He helped a lot with my early mistakes on my layout and then helped more getting both sides of the OTA to work! Great guy lots of knowledge!

Here Is the Layout

(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s479/MCMustachio/MutronMicro5BuildDoc.jpg)

On With the show! Heres the pics!

(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s479/MCMustachio/IMAG0219.jpg)

(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s479/MCMustachio/IMAG0215.jpg)

(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s479/MCMustachio/IMAG0204.jpg)

(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s479/MCMustachio/IMAG0199.jpg)

(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s479/MCMustachio/IMAG0197.jpg)

(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s479/MCMustachio/IMAG0195.jpg)

(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s479/MCMustachio/IMAG0181.jpg)

(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s479/MCMustachio/IMAG0175.jpg)

(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s479/MCMustachio/IMAG0174.jpg)

And now for the embarrassing video. Just remember I hadn't slept and I'm full of excuses  :icon_lol:



Thanks to the forum for this contest it was fun to participate! And more then anything I just wanted to give something back since I've learned so much from this website!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 22, 2012, 10:28:04 AM
@jim:  beautiful design, and detail, and great sounds man... :icon_cool:

just curious is there a way to reverse the sweep on that?...it a pretty similar sound-ish  to what ive been working on, but i want reverse sweep too...because i'm greedy... ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: GGBB on November 22, 2012, 10:35:04 AM
Killer graphics!  That is so sweet.  Nice job - I can rest easy now knowing that I've still got a stranglehold on last place.  This is very inspiring - my next pedal was going to be an envelope filter of some sort so now I'm thinking about this one as opposed to a quack variety.  That is exactly the sound I am after.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 22, 2012, 10:43:57 AM
There might be a way, but as to how I'm not sure yet. The switch is just for high or low which doesn't affect the direction. I personally never use the other direction on my Mutron III. But that's just me, I do like the other direction on bass though :D

Thanks for the nice words about the build Rob :D

After this contest I'm thinking about trying to add another one or 2 LM13700's to get more Whomp out of it.

Gord , thanks for the kind words! Your fuzz is super clean and sounds awesome! I love a clean design and you nailed it!

As for envelope filters I want to play with this a bit more but so far my favorites are this micro V and the mutron III from RG Keens website geofex. I always liked the Sound Jerry Garcia and Stevie Wonder got out of their Mutron's. Really they are so much fun to play with . You start finding small nuances with the envelope and playing style. Really can get that touch response feedback ! I love em. I could annoy a band with one all day hahaha!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 22, 2012, 11:18:54 AM
Beautiful builds, Jim and Gord, and both pedals sound great! 

Thanks for all of the support, guys.  I pulled an all nighter and just as I crept into bed around 6:30AM, my wife let me know that I was in the dog house and I had to get up and help bake deserts and make some kind of potato dish.  I also have to be her Black Friday shopping escort all day tomorrow..  It's 10AM and I just got a break to get back to my project. I've got to get it in by 1PM because we'll be doing family stuff until midnight or beyond (both of our families). All that's left is to do last minute changes to the build docs and I'll make my post.  I've made sure to save everything to my iPhone just in case I have to take a "potty break" durning dinner and make my post.  As Arnold said, "I'll be bock".
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 22, 2012, 11:25:36 AM
Wow Gord and Jim, those are some spectacular finishes on this builds!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 22, 2012, 11:32:15 AM
Ummmm.... THOSE builds  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on November 22, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
Wow - they just keep coming.
I got the circuit built last night - it worked first time, which was rather lucky as I didn't have time to breadboard all of it. No convenient holiday in the UK to get it finished, but I may still have to cram it into the enclosure tonight - family willing.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 22, 2012, 12:13:36 PM
@sam: tick tock tick tock.....no pressure!!!.. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 22, 2012, 12:20:16 PM
Forgot to mention Gord, I love those connectors on your board. Nice touch!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 22, 2012, 12:22:30 PM
Jim, great playing in your vid
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 22, 2012, 01:35:15 PM
Jim, thanks for the big fat guitar lesson. I could listen to you all day long man. Nice! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 22, 2012, 01:57:25 PM
wow, every time i think my minds made up, it gets re-blown.

you guys are absolutely outstanding. it is an honor i don't think i'm worthy of to be asked to judge such fine examples of the diy ethic,
you guys @#$%ing rock. period. sorry... it had to be said.

time is ticking away... i HATE to see anyone run out of time to enter. but the rules are the rules.

thanks to EVERYONE.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: GGBB on November 22, 2012, 02:06:36 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 22, 2012, 01:35:15 PMI could listen to you all day long man. Nice! :icon_cool:

Yep - same here.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 22, 2012, 02:18:46 PM
Wow, it's 1:10pm and I just woke up to two new daggers in my hopes of even placing in this comp. :icon_lol:

Two really great builds guys!

@daggum drug stoner         Is that pour on clear coat?   Whatever it is, it's beautiful!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 22, 2012, 02:25:13 PM
Quote@daggum drug stoner         Is that pour on clear coat?   Whatever it is, it's beautiful!

That's got to be 100% acrylic urethane love man!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 22, 2012, 04:15:13 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 22, 2012, 02:25:13 PM
Quote@daggum drug stoner         Is that pour on clear coat?   Whatever it is, it's beautiful!

That's got to be 100% acrylic urethane love man!

Derp :P    I just re-read Jim's post and it is pour on clearcoat :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 22, 2012, 05:13:42 PM
Aww Shucks fellas your all too kind. thanks for the compliments on the playing and pedal.

And yep you guys are right its envirotex pour-on , been having pretty good luck with it using a heat gun :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: alparent on November 22, 2012, 05:22:49 PM
Jim.....you actually etched the switch washer! Never thought of that.  :o
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 22, 2012, 05:57:03 PM
Haha Yeah I almost forgot it! Last minute I ran upstairs and etched it. I had drawn on it with etch resist pen earlier in the week and it was just sitting on my desk. I gotta say though the white plastic washer didn't look bad on it. But I really wanted to give it a try Ive never etched a washer before. Gave it a light sanding with 1500 grit before I put it on.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 22, 2012, 06:12:52 PM
A couple more outstanding pedals...just keeps blowing me away!  :)

What can I say, very nice pedal Jim!

I'm starting to feel for the judges, gonna be some difficult judging going on.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 22, 2012, 06:16:15 PM
Little over 5 hours to go people!!!  :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 22, 2012, 07:55:45 PM
My HEART is racing....
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 22, 2012, 08:27:08 PM
Well I've finally got it all together and have found time between family events today to post.  I have great admiration for you guys who were able to get your projects turned in earlier.

My entry is a tremolo called the" Pulsinator". I was originally going to call it the "Treminator", but an online search revealed that someone else was already marketing a tremolo under that name.   I wanted to use a 555 timer for the LFO as a challenge, and boy was it!

I had run across Dead Astronaut's (Rob Henry) Tiny Tremolo which feeds the guitar signal through an LDR which is controlled by an LED connected to the output of the 555.  To be different, I placed a Tillman preamp in front of the LDR to keep the signal's quality in tact (or even make it better). The biggest problem with the 555 is the ticking noise that permeates most audio circuits that share the same power supply.  The Tiny Tremolo avoids this problem by having a separate ground for the LFO and the LDR since the LDR is passive.  The Pulsinator on the other hand has an active amplification circuit and shares the ground with the LFO.  I was able to knock almost all of the ticking using a suggestion that Jon Patton had given to another forumite. Thanks Jon! (BTW, that "Big Bertha 4700uF cap shown in the photos did the trick! ;) ).  I also found Small Bear's "Tremulous Bear", which is a nice 555 based tremolo that uses active components to isolate the ticking.  Steve's configuration of the 555 gave me much more control over timing than I would have had otherwise had, so thank you, Steve!

The next problem I ran into was a popping sound unrelated to ticking from the power rails.   This only occurred when there was a signal going through the Pulsinator.  I was able to reduce this quite a bit by using an external pot to control the intensity of the LED in the optocoupler.

I did an extensive amount of research  trying to finding a passive filter to smooth out the 555's square wave.   I finally settled on a diode/capacitor arrangement that did a pretty good job without greatly affecting the volume or overall sound.   I made the filter switchable between four levels of smoothing.

Once I got past the hurdles above, I had stupid irritating problems. This was the first time that I had designed a PCB. It took me a little while to realize that I didn't need to reverse the PCB image before doing the photo transfer, just the text on the board.

I downloaded the base artwork for the enclosure from a clipart site and then edited it using several drawing programs. The biggest problem with the art was getting the photo overlay on the enclosure without blemishes or uneven cuts. I finally got it and did a varnish clear coat.

On to the videos. I shot several segments of video using my iPhone. They looked good when I viewed them on the iPhone, but  when I transferred them to the computer, they were upside down.  So I had to spend more time finding a way to flip the video.  BTW, being tired when I shot the video didn't help my mediocre playing abilities.

Here are the build documents. I apologize that I haven't had a chance to convert these into jpeg images and post them directly, but I'll flow edit follow up and do this. The docs have been updated for new components and trace cuts that appear in the photos further down.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mwqr9mbk02slnt/Pulsinator%20V1.02%20Scheme.pdf

https://www.dropbox.com/s/brcfs18amqh787o/Pulsinator%20V1.02-Copper.pdf

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zsfzlz3igpeq9c/Pulsinator%20BOM.pdf

Here are my photos of the outside and inside. The board is copper side up because that's the only way it would fit. The copper spring on the back of the board is soldered to a large ground plane to provide grounding of the enclosure. Not shown are two strips of foam attached to the inside of the lid to prevent the board from contacting the lid. I tinned the copper to give it a silvery "Terminator" theme look.

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/34AC7E84-1E58-47C6-84E3-B989FCD67F18-4968-000005B913EA7663.jpg)

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/D22787CF-3ACC-4A46-8DDA-10998274574E-4968-000005B92FF85CB0.jpg)

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/CB0ABC07-3C16-43E5-A5E6-6A44990F1E1C-4968-000005B957A428EE.jpg)

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/CA690482-F0BF-40EC-8DE8-A4221B50095D-4968-000005B9805F5E10.jpg)

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/B6AB9DC6-5EA5-4DDC-A945-143DDF19E1EC-4968-000005B9A169B3D1.jpg)

Here's my embarrassing video: :)



I want to thank the judges for conceiving this contest and running it. Your time and talent is greatly appreated!  Thank you also to all the sponsors (including judges) who generously donated the terrific prizes.  Of course, without Aron, not only would the contest be impossible, but there would be no data source for the wealth of information that we DIYers rely on.

Finally best wishes to all of the other contestants.  This has been a lot of fun and so far you've all submitted projects of a magnitude that I can only dream of.

Edit I forgot to post an image of the component layout on the board. I'll do that ASAP.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 22, 2012, 08:47:02 PM
Nice build John :icon_cool:     I'm really diggin the theme!    NOW GO EAT! ;D you deserve it.

One thing you can do to connect the ground plane to the box is to use a thin gauge wire from the ground plane and tuck it under the bypass switch and tighten it down to hold the wire to the enclosure
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: GGBB on November 22, 2012, 08:56:44 PM
Yeah - love the theme - I can tell you really put your heart into it. ;D (It had to be said.)

Sounds fantastic too - great job!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 22, 2012, 08:59:14 PM
QuoteOne thing you can do to connect the ground plane to the box is to use a thin gauge wire from the ground plane and tuck it under the bypass switch and tighten it down to hold the wire to the enclosure

You could use metal stand-offs directly to the boards ground plane, and attach the board to the enclosure cover. Support and ground in one swoop.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 22, 2012, 09:11:12 PM
cool tremolo john, nice build and theme ..goes well with distortion too.. 8)

now you can relax and get some kip... ;)

its been great to see so many of you guys pushing the boat out and coming up with new ideas, and improving on others too.. ....its been a great competition in the true 'spirit of diysb'

now who's going to win that sausage pic?... ;D


good luck all you guys.... ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 22, 2012, 09:15:12 PM
Thanks for the complements guys. 

Also, thanks for the advice on grounding the enclosure.  I thought about the other options, but decided to make a little spring because I could.  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on November 22, 2012, 09:29:37 PM
And it looks like I will just squeeze in before the bell too. Many thanks to the organisers and other contestants/forum regulars. There have been a lot of neat new circuits described over the last month or so.

I will keep it short, because it is now 2am. My entry is tentatively called the 'Double Up': two precision full wave rectifiers (so gating is not really a problem) in series to create 1 and then 2 octaves up with some  filtering to try to make the waveforms more symmetrical and to keep the high frequency fizz under control - it's not super clean, but it's not really a fuzz either.
The two octaves can be mixed together and then this can then be mixed with the dry signal. Because there are 6 op-amps involved (it started to feel like a 'fun with op-amps' project), I figured it might as well have buffered bypass too so long as it still passes signal without power (which it does).
To make this more interesting, and because nobody has entered one yet, I decided to cram all this into a 1590A-size enclosure - if you can't make it better, then make it smaller. This was my first 1590A build - which may explain why I thought this would be a good idea. I will be doing others, but will be buying some smaller jacks and pots first

Many rectifier circuits have been built over the years and although I designed this from scratch, i would imagine something very similar has been done before. The precision rectifiers started out on my breadboard looking like Rod Elliott's (ESP) textbook example. I also spent some time playing with the octave stage of John Hollis' Omnidrive. The filters are nothing special (but the frequencies are tuned more to smooth the rectified signal than to filter a specific frequency) and the mixing is done passively to keep the number of knobs down. An old post http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=76327.0 (http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=76327.0) was quite helpful and gave me the idea of sharing a circuit simulation, which you can play with here: http://tinyurl.com/cxwt398 (http://tinyurl.com/cxwt398).


Schematic:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11996927/Double_Up_schematic.jpg)
It is roughly unity gain, but if you have the space, it might be nice to replace the 220k resistor in the feedback loop of the output op-amp with an e.g. 1M gain pot.

Layout - It's on vero and is a bit of a tight fit, so the pull down resistors were moved to the jacks. A 1590BB version could be a lot cleaner (the wires in the middle of the board really bug me). However, I do feel quite smug that I managed to keep all the resistors lying down - you win some, you lose some.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11996927/Double_Up_1590A_layout.jpg)

Build photos:

The board:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11996927/DU_vero.jpg)

The gut shots (halfway there and complete). You might notice I had to trim both the in/out jacks and the pots - fun times:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11996927/DU_guts1.jpg)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11996927/DU_guts2.jpg)

And the finished product:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11996927/DU_finished.jpg)
A chronic lack of time left me with little option but a naked enclosure. I did sand and polish it up a bit, but ultimately it is a little bit of an ugly duckling in this competition. To try to hide this, I have used an ultra-bright blue LED so you can never look directly at it.

And finally, some uninspiring 'evidence' captured on a stills camera in between my sons crying. This was all played on the neck pickup of a telecaster. That said, it works reasonably well with a bridge humbucker too. What it sucks badly at is playing more than one note at a time. This is a general problem with rectifiers I believe.




Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on November 22, 2012, 09:44:20 PM
Holy crap! Two octaves up in a 1590A!

<3

It's got some interesting ring mod-like stuff going on. Is it sensitive to where you set the guitar's tone control and so forth?

Nice job on your first 1590A. It's difficult even for veteran squeezers to get something that size into a 1590A and you did it on your first try.

---
Also, John, very cool tremolo. I haven't messed with the 555 much at all. I need to fix that. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 22, 2012, 10:09:12 PM
QuoteTo try to hide this, I have used an ultra-bright blue LED so you can never look directly at it.

We have a saying at work, when faced with a difficult job, or situation, "We won't let ourselves die out in the field".

Those ultra-blues are like lasers, so BRAVO!  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on November 22, 2012, 10:13:00 PM
Jon - thanks and I should have mentioned that a photo of your large family of your 1590As got me thinking about this in the first place.
I am still trying to get my head around the pedal as I had my first proper play with it about 2 hours ago. Like other similar circuits, it is quite sensitive to the tone pot - I will try and do some better sound samples at some stage if anyone is interested.

digi2t - I have some diode lasers at work, and yeah, the ultra-brights aren't far off them.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 22, 2012, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 22, 2012, 08:59:14 PM
QuoteOne thing you can do to connect the ground plane to the box is to use a thin gauge wire from the ground plane and tuck it under the bypass switch and tighten it down to hold the wire to the enclosure

You could use metal stand-offs directly to the boards ground plane, and attach the board to the enclosure cover. Support and ground in one swoop.

common sense strikes again ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 22, 2012, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 22, 2012, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 22, 2012, 08:59:14 PM
QuoteOne thing you can do to connect the ground plane to the box is to use a thin gauge wire from the ground plane and tuck it under the bypass switch and tighten it down to hold the wire to the enclosure

You could use metal stand-offs directly to the boards ground plane, and attach the board to the enclosure cover. Support and ground in one swoop.

common sense strikes again ;D

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102848 (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102848)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 22, 2012, 10:48:04 PM
lol   you don't have to tell me. The manager of radioshack pays me to organize the parts section because all of the employees are tards.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on November 22, 2012, 11:49:26 PM
My contest entry is an amalgamation of different ideas I've had for a while.  This worked out to be the perfect time to do this project because I had almost all the skills to do it, and it was an excuse to learn how to do double-sided photo etching.  But before I get into it, I've got some people to thank.  Without their help and sharing of their ideas, I could not have done this:

KMG: sharing your LND150 tube emulation work which is the basis of this project, http://milas.spb.ru/~kmg/jcm800fetLnd150_en.html (http://milas.spb.ru/~kmg/jcm800fetLnd150_en.html).  
Nick de Smith, http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Electronics/NixiePSU.html (http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Electronics/NixiePSU.html): who's SMPS was the basis for this SMPS.
Tom Berryhill: your assistance with refining my dry film lamination process allowed me to make this board
R.G: your programmable FX switcher, http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/fxswitchr/fxswitchr.htm (http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/fxswitchr/fxswitchr.htm), is the basis for the logic switching for the channels
The guys of the world who work on high gain amps, your schematics are the underlying architecture of this project
My girlfriend Christina: your help with the art work, drawing the knife and encouraging this project allowed me to get it done.  
My brother Frank: you gophering for me during the final rush to do wiring was indispensable.  
The guys over at BYOC who pointed me in the direct of the cool knobs and DC jack
Surplus stores around the US for having cool stuff like black momentary switches and tiny PCB turrets.  

I think that's everyone, I hope.  

Cut-Throat is basically a high voltage (+400v) LND150 tube preamp emulation project.  It uses the high voltage depletion mode LND150 MOSFET as the active device.  The project has three channels, two are distortion, one for clean.  The basic idea is you can path into any power amp and have your core sounds in a box.  The high gain channels are a mish mash of the Soldano SLO lead channel and the Fryette Deliverance preamp.  The clean channel is a Fender Twin.  But enough of that, on to the pictures.  

Schematic:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img210/1241/alltz.th.png) (http://imageshack.us/a/img210/1241/alltz.png)

Currently I do not consider the board "verified", so I'm not going to post it.  Also, if someone wants to etch it, they're probably going to need some assistance due to the complexity (dual layer).  If anyone wants it, I'll send it to you, but I'd rather not post it for public consumption at the moment.  

Video, sorry, I blew up the SMPS while testing.  I was getting switching noise in the bypass signal and while the channel switching logic was working, the signal was not being re-routed.  In adjusting the SMPS to reduce switching noise, I made a short with my meter and killed something.  Probably the MOSFET or the MAX1771.  Since I'm at my parent's house 8 hours from my scope, and just finished wiring this an hour ago, troubleshooting will wait.  Anyway, not getting channel switching was probably a relay wiring error (all of that was done as off board wiring because there was no good way to do it because the turrets were so large and restricted the options for making paths).  Such is life.  But on to the pics.

Exterior
(http://imageshack.us/a/img28/3981/20121122225958.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img28/3981/20121122225958.jpg)

Interior
(http://imageshack.us/a/img811/4935/20121122230030.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img811/4935/20121122230030.jpg)

Board with developed dry film resist
(http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3592/20121118164549.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3592/20121118164549.jpg)

Etched board front
(http://imageshack.us/a/img801/1960/20121118220438.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img801/1960/20121118220438.jpg)

Etched board back
(http://imageshack.us/a/img845/9369/20121118220506.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img845/9369/20121118220506.jpg)

Box with exposed film
(http://imageshack.us/a/img197/7872/20121119221015.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img197/7872/20121119221015.jpg)

Box on mill for drilling
(http://imageshack.us/a/img23/1496/20121120191709.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img23/1496/20121120191709.jpg)

Drilling board
(http://imageshack.us/a/img820/2035/20121119182251.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img820/2035/20121119182251.jpg)

Turreted board front
(http://imageshack.us/a/img191/3476/20121119220036.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img191/3476/20121119220036.jpg)

Turreted board back
(http://imageshack.us/a/img7/5777/20121119220045.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img7/5777/20121119220045.jpg)

Completely populated board
(http://imageshack.us/a/img254/3379/20121121032502.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img254/3379/20121121032502.jpg)

Pot point to point wiring of controls
(http://imageshack.us/a/img534/5571/20121122194749.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img534/5571/20121122194749.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 22, 2012, 11:50:12 PM
Ok, here is my second and third entry. This one has 2 boards so as per the rules, counts as 2 entries. It is the ST-9E Super Tube Screamer Executive Edition. I named it the "Executive" edition because it's a step up to the "Professional" version that I built recently. I was originally going to call this the Tube Screamer Ridiculous, but I felt I would need more mods to make it truly ridiculous. Maybe the next competition.....
This project was a leap for me to say the least. I haven't been building for long, but thanks to this forum and all of the great people here, I'm learning. I couldn't find a layout for this so I made one from a collaboration of pictures and a schematic I found on the internet. I've never made a layout before so I wasn't sure it would even work... thankfully, it does. The various mods can be found online but most of them came from Dano at beavisaudio. I'm sure someone here could make a much better layout than this, but it's a good starting point.
At some points in the video, the audio clips a little and doesn't do this pedal justice. My friend Brian, who plays in the vid, absolutely loved this one and I would recommend the stock ST9 to anyone looking for a "better" tube screamer..
The features are covered in this "owner's manual" I made just to be a smart ass.

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/SUPERTUBESCREAMEREXECUTIVEMANUAL_REV4_Page_1.jpg)
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/SUPERTUBESCREAMEREXECUTIVEMANUAL_REV4_Page_2.jpg)
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/SUPERTUBESCREAMEREXECUTIVEMANUAL_REV4_Page_3.jpg)
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/SUPERTUBESCREAMEREXECUTIVEMANUAL_REV4_Page_4.jpg)

Some pics:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/DSC03022.jpg)
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/DSC03010.jpg)

Gut Shots:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/DSC03003.jpg)
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/DSC03004.jpg)
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/DSC03005.jpg)
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/DSC03006.jpg)

Opamp board:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/DSC03002.jpg)

Here is the layout I made using DIYLC. Thanks Bancika!

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/ST9PROJECT.png)

The schematic I used:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/ST9Schematic.jpg)

I copied most of this photo to make the layout:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/ST9.jpg)

The opamp board layout:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/ST9UOPAMPBOARD.jpg)

Steroids mod:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/Steroids.jpg)
Beavisaudio mods:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/ScreamerWiring.gif)

Here it is next to my Tube Screamer Professional:

(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w375/pakrat70/SEVENLEAF%20EFFECTS/DSC03015.jpg)

Video:



Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 22, 2012, 11:56:23 PM
Sorry for posting my entry so close to yours defaced. I was worried time would run out.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on November 23, 2012, 12:00:50 AM
No worries at all, I completely understand.  That's a killer build.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 23, 2012, 12:09:11 AM
@defaced  Man, you really are a Super Evil Genius, that build looks incredible, and very professional!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 23, 2012, 01:03:43 AM
F*ck my life  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 23, 2012, 01:45:21 AM
Wow, two absolutely devastating builds!!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 23, 2012, 02:12:03 AM
GET TO IT JUDGES!


We don't want a repeat of last time     :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 23, 2012, 02:30:13 AM
Sam, Defaced, and Packrat- all three great ideas and builds! Glad you all made it by the deadline!  :)
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 23, 2012, 03:09:46 AM
Amazing stuff chaps, just logged in over breakfast and I'm blown away by last nights entrys. 3 new designs and an ultra-modded "forgotten gem". Will have to check them out later or I'm going to be late for work :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 23, 2012, 06:58:52 AM
Ah I passed out after the turkey. Just woke up a bit ago. And Wow, more amazing builds!

John that heart graphic on your pedal is awesome! I love it the overall design is real clean too but the circuit layout on the heart and the valves haha its awesome well done! Sounded great too!

Defaced wow man! that thing is a beast! looks like you put a ton of really good work into that , its a shame we didn't get to hear it. The skills everyone has is awesome!

And wow holy mother of tube screamers haha pakrat that thing is huge ! reminds me of the tube screamer at beavis. I could have swore I seen those graphics before and maybe it was from your TS Pro. the graphic layout is great! Really pro stuff !

Samhay I love octave ups! two notes sound awesome together when you find the right place. When I first started playing guitar My sister gave me Hendrix band of Gypsys on cassette she said she didn't like it. It blew my mind and I never knew how he was getting certain sounds I thought it was just magic fingers until I played on an Oct UP! I sold my Green ringer for lunch money not long ago so Ill need to build a new one gonna give yours a look, it sounded nice!

Been checking this thread off and on and everyone did so great this was a lot of fun you guys rock! Hope I didn't miss anyone and if i did just know I looked at it and was blown away!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: ~arph on November 23, 2012, 07:42:45 AM
I like it how the bar has been seriously raised in this competition  8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 23, 2012, 09:09:12 AM
Great job everybody. ;D
This comp has produced so many nice new designs. This should keep folks building new gear for quite some time.
Good luck judges. Now it's your turn to lose sleep. :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 23, 2012, 10:23:29 AM
Well, I say... THAT was an exciting finish!

I wish to thank all the participants for their hard work. We've seen creativity, attention to detail, and devotion to craft, that has really made every entry really shine. Judging was really tough, especially considering that every entry is worthy of occupying space on my "dream pedalboard". I stand and salute all of you.

I also wish to thank my brother's in arms, Govmnt_Lacky, and pinkjimiphoton, for all their work and participation. G_L was the real engine behind this whole affair, and I must say that I found working with him and jimi to be an excellent adventure. C0ckpit Resource Management at it's finest. I thank you both.

My score sheets are complete, and G_L will be compiling the scores. I wish everyone the very best of luck, and of course, a very Happy Thanksgiving. Lots of love and happiness for all your families, and those close to your hearts. A special shoutout for those who have friends or family in the military, and are unable to be together during the holidays. All the very best, and a safe return to their loved ones.

Cheers,
Dino
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on November 23, 2012, 12:16:30 PM
You guys are crazy! There are builds that I would buy right now if  
could  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 23, 2012, 12:21:01 PM
Quote from: tuckster on November 23, 2012, 12:16:30 PM
You guys are crazy! There are builds that I would buy right now if 
could
 :icon_razz:

Thats the great thing about how this competition was set up! To encourage participants to SHARE their custom layouts so everyone could benefit  ;)

DIY at it's finest  :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on November 23, 2012, 12:27:26 PM
I thought i't all about braging  ;D
The best part of the competition is that I do have a pedal now that I really play every day 8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 23, 2012, 01:09:12 PM
Agreed, my "to build" list is now huge thanks to this competition. Thanks to everyone in charge of this and to Aron of course. It's very generous of you guys to put in the time and of course, the prizes. ALL of the builds in this competition are just incredible! Thanks for sharing everyone  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 23, 2012, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: defaced on November 22, 2012, 11:49:26 PM
My contest entry is an amalgamation of different ideas I've had for a while.  This worked out to be the perfect time to do this project because I had almost all the skills to do it, and it was an excuse to learn how to do double-sided photo etching.  But before I get into it, I've got some people to thank.  Without their help and sharing of their ideas, I could not have done this:

KMG: sharing your LND150 tube emulation work which is the basis of this project, http://milas.spb.ru/~kmg/jcm800fetLnd150_en.html (http://milas.spb.ru/~kmg/jcm800fetLnd150_en.html).  
Nick de Smith, http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Electronics/NixiePSU.html (http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Electronics/NixiePSU.html): who's SMPS was the basis for this SMPS.
Tom Berryhill: your assistance with refining my dry film lamination process allowed me to make this board
R.G: your programmable FX switcher, http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/fxswitchr/fxswitchr.htm (http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/fxswitchr/fxswitchr.htm), is the basis for the logic switching for the channels
The guys of the world who work on high gain amps, your schematics are the underlying architecture of this project
My girlfriend Christina: your help with the art work, drawing the knife and encouraging this project allowed me to get it done.  
My brother Frank: you gophering for me during the final rush to do wiring was indispensable.  
The guys over at BYOC who pointed me in the direct of the cool knobs and DC jack
Surplus stores around the US for having cool stuff like black momentary switches and tiny PCB turrets.  

I think that's everyone, I hope.  

Cut-Throat is basically a high voltage (+400v) LND150 tube preamp emulation project.  It uses the high voltage depletion mode LND150 MOSFET as the active device.  The project has three channels, two are distortion, one for clean.  The basic idea is you can path into any power amp and have your core sounds in a box.  The high gain channels are a mish mash of the Soldano SLO lead channel and the Fryette Deliverance preamp.  The clean channel is a Fender Twin.  But enough of that, on to the pictures.  

Schematic:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img210/1241/alltz.th.png) (http://imageshack.us/a/img210/1241/alltz.png)

Currently I do not consider the board "verified", so I'm not going to post it.  Also, if someone wants to etch it, they're probably going to need some assistance due to the complexity (dual layer).  If anyone wants it, I'll send it to you, but I'd rather not post it for public consumption at the moment.  

Video, sorry, I blew up the SMPS while testing.  I was getting switching noise in the bypass signal and while the channel switching logic was working, the signal was not being re-routed.  In adjusting the SMPS to reduce switching noise, I made a short with my meter and killed something.  Probably the MOSFET or the MAX1771.  Since I'm at my parent's house 8 hours from my scope, and just finished wiring this an hour ago, troubleshooting will wait.  Anyway, not getting channel switching was probably a relay wiring error (all of that was done as off board wiring because there was no good way to do it because the turrets were so large and restricted the options for making paths).  Such is life.  But on to the pics.

Exterior
(http://imageshack.us/a/img28/3981/20121122225958.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img28/3981/20121122225958.jpg)

Interior
(http://imageshack.us/a/img811/4935/20121122230030.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img811/4935/20121122230030.jpg)

Board with developed dry film resist
(http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3592/20121118164549.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3592/20121118164549.jpg)

Etched board front
(http://imageshack.us/a/img801/1960/20121118220438.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img801/1960/20121118220438.jpg)

Etched board back
(http://imageshack.us/a/img845/9369/20121118220506.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img845/9369/20121118220506.jpg)

Box with exposed film
(http://imageshack.us/a/img197/7872/20121119221015.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img197/7872/20121119221015.jpg)

Box on mill for drilling
(http://imageshack.us/a/img23/1496/20121120191709.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img23/1496/20121120191709.jpg)

Drilling board
(http://imageshack.us/a/img820/2035/20121119182251.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img820/2035/20121119182251.jpg)

Turreted board front
(http://imageshack.us/a/img191/3476/20121119220036.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img191/3476/20121119220036.jpg)

Turreted board back
(http://imageshack.us/a/img7/5777/20121119220045.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img7/5777/20121119220045.jpg)

Completely populated board
(http://imageshack.us/a/img254/3379/20121121032502.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img254/3379/20121121032502.jpg)

Pot point to point wiring of controls
(http://imageshack.us/a/img534/5571/20121122194749.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img534/5571/20121122194749.jpg)


dude, this is SO beautiful....but it's giving me a heavy heart at the moment. i understand the circumstance, but without audio/video to judge by, or the layout to see, i cannot judge this and my initial vote would be a disqualification, which i do NOT want to see happen.

about the best i can offer/suggest, IF my brother judges and other contestants approve, is you have 24 hours. you MUST submit video/audio and a layout, or i ...again... will have to vote for a disqualification. please, do whatever possible to get us the required entry stuff.

i don't care if it's a mother@#$%in' cheap cell phone recording or video... without that, i believe our hands are tied.

you supplied enough other info i think we can overlook the layout not being released, especially because as you say you're not comfortable with it being verified..

but no video/audio is a deal-breaker.

i am so sorry man. but i gotta keep it fair for all the entrants. it's with heavy heart i write this.

i await the decision of the other judges on this matter, and the court of public opinion, as it really comes down to whether the other entrants feel i'm being fair. sorry man. not to be a buzzkill. i want this shit on the up and up.
this is the part that blows.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 23, 2012, 04:19:46 PM
^ As a contestant, I have no problem with a 24hr grace period for the video.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 23, 2012, 04:21:12 PM
ok, i spoke with the other judges...

the BEST i can offer is to judge pakrat's entry "as is"...which is what we agreed to. if an entry isn't complete and submitted as per the stated rules,
and the deadline isn't met, i'm sorry, but our hands are tied.

the contest is closed, and i will do my judging over the weekend so we can compile the results.

the deadline is closed, and we will post the first winner as soon as humanly and ethically possible.

thanks to all who participated, you guys are amazing and really raised the bar with some amazing pedals. i plan on building most of 'em...along with all the others on my list. well done.

so... exit stage left, for now.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 23, 2012, 04:31:17 PM
Quotethe BEST i can offer is to judge pakrat's entry "as is"...which is what we agreed to. if an entry isn't complete and submitted as per the stated rules,
and the deadline isn't met, i'm sorry, but our hands are tied.

I believe brother Jimi meant "defaced", and not pakrat.

The "as is" mark is my decision as well. I did score it, but obviously, the score will be lower than it could be, due to the lack of audio/video. Disqualification is not an option, since the work is there. It will place somewhere, just lower than where it could have been.

It's a shame, but the deadline was there for everybody. I would have a difficult time justifying an extension, when all the other participants paid their due diligence. It would mean that some entries down the line would suffer, and I cannot in good conscience agree with that.

Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 23, 2012, 04:34:05 PM
Obviously it's up to judges, and it looks like the decision's been reached, but I'd be happy to give him a bit of extra time.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 23, 2012, 04:38:58 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 23, 2012, 04:31:17 PM
Quotethe BEST i can offer is to judge pakrat's entry "as is"...which is what we agreed to. if an entry isn't complete and submitted as per the stated rules,
and the deadline isn't met, i'm sorry, but our hands are tied.

I believe brother Jimi meant "defaced", and not pakrat.

The "as is" mark is my decision as well. I did score it, but obviously, the score will be lower than it could be, due to the lack of audio/video. Disqualification is not an option, since the work is there. It will place somewhere, just lower than where it could have been.

It's a shame, but the deadline was there for everybody. I would have a difficult time justifying an extension, when all the other participants paid their due diligence. It would mean that some entries down the line would suffer, and I cannot in good conscience agree with that.




yes, my bad...sorry pakrat. i meant defaced. too much coffee.

i stand with dino on this, glad to see entrants being gracious about it. but the rules are the rules, and in the interest of being fair to all who entered, i believe we must stand by them.

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 23, 2012, 04:42:10 PM
and i want to say as well, it's a testament to the good hearted folks on this forum that people consider a 24 hour grace period as cool.
you guys rock.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 23, 2012, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on November 23, 2012, 04:42:10 PM
a testament to the good hearted folks on this forum

I vote for DQing
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No,  permaban from diysb
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LYNCH EM' !!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 23, 2012, 05:33:38 PM
What a friggin shame!! defaced's build is insane, and if the judges decide to change their minds about an extension, my vote is also to give him the 24 hrs.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 23, 2012, 06:32:50 PM
it's not fair to anyone  if we allow this.

i'm sorry, cuz i am @#$%ing blown away by his entry. but truth is, it plain wasn't ready by the deadline,
and we'd be really shitty judges if we were to change the rules - even with populace blessing - after the game is afoot.

actually, i'm not sorry. i wish it were different...truly. but it is what it is. if we changed the rules now, it would be a disgrace to all involved.

granted, the entry isn't complete. we have decided not to disqualify, tho the mere fact a working pedal and evidence of this would be enough to disqualify.

he got some of the info proscribed in the contest rules in before the deadline. we can only, in fairness, judge his entry accordingly.

i believe in my heart we three judges stand in agreeance on this, and the best we can do is accept the entry as incomplete.

it's not whether we like it or not, or want to be pricks or bend over backwards...the rules are the rules. we all agreed to them before the contest began, and changing them at this time is NOT possible.

thanks for the understanding. if you or anyone is pissed off, direct it at me by all means, but understand, the decision stays. this isn't a recount being decided by any deciders. the rules of the contest couldn't be followed, perhaps a better choice would have been to contact us and post on the board before posting an incomplete entry.

besides...he still might win something. ;)

i, for one, am still highly impressed, and look forward to seeing the finished product, should defaced be willing when all's said and done to share it with the community.

sorry for the man,  i truly am, but the rules are the rules and we've revisted them and tho none of us like it, if we bend the rules now, it will destroy any possibility of a fair contest happening.

i AM an asshole, true, and opinionated...but one thing i take quite seriously is fairness and recourse. i believe the best we can do as judges is what we've stated. if that is an issue, i will withdraw as a judge, and still supply my "prize" to whichever winner claims it.

peace.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 23, 2012, 06:46:24 PM
Very well put Jimi. You're right, rules is rules. It's just a shame that's all.....
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 23, 2012, 06:50:47 PM
when i say this shit with heavy heart, i really mean it. i have nothing but respect for the man, bro.

i'm more pissed the damn controller blew out on him, i REALLY REALLY REALLY wanna see this thing.

but...rules are rules. if we agreed to them, they bind us. blows, but just the way it @#$%in' is.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 23, 2012, 07:15:45 PM
I'm with you Jimi. I hope the damage isn't too bad so he can get it up and running again soon.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on November 23, 2012, 07:29:21 PM
Some truely excellent last minute entries guys. Good to see I am not the only last-minute Nelly out there.

For what it's worth. I would have been happy to give defaced a grace period too. I guess on the bright side. Once he has it up and working, he is going to have what looks to be one amazing pedal on his pedal board - not a bad consolation prize at all.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 23, 2012, 07:55:48 PM
Amen Sam, and I must say I love your build as well! Good job of getting it all into a 1590a (I'm afraid of those  ;D). The countersunk LED is a nice touch too
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on November 23, 2012, 09:08:13 PM
Wow!  Quite the response.  Thanks for the accolades guys.  This was an intense build from pretty much every perspective.  Alot of uncharted territories for me, the double sided board and the SMPS being the biggest risk items.  Typically I would have tested this outside the box, but I simply ran out of time.  What you see was built from about 5PM this past Sunday when the board came out of the acid until last night at 11PM when I blew up the SMPS.  Getting my dry film application technique down took ALOT longer than I anticipated.  

I dug in today and starting doing some basic troubleshooting.  I Replaced some fried parts, did some testing, and I believe the MAX1771 is dead - and I don't have a replacement.  In an attempt to get it going for the crowd, I tried rigging up a 555 SMPS driver and it sorta worked for about a second till the voltage started to drop off.  I pulled the plug and found that the replacement MOSFET was really hot, so I will probably just have to completely rebuild the entire high voltage side of the SMPS.  Such is life.

As for any discussion regarding a time extension, I would have refused it.  I knew when I conceptualized the project it was going to be a beast, and with my current work travel schedule it would be tight. I also was unwilling to go through the motions for a smaller (but similarly scoped project), so I knew what I was getting into when I started.  

I did consider posting after the close time to disqualify myself as a gesture, but I'm pretty sure GL said earlier in the thread that if you weren't finished to post what you had, so I charged as hard as I could and posted what I had before the buzzer rang.

Thanks again guys.  When I get this up and running I'll post in the video demo and pics thread with final results.  
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 23, 2012, 10:19:46 PM
@defaced

I think I may have a MAX1771 hanging around. Let me know if you need it. More than willing to send one out to you if only to see your project in action.

As for the competition, I am going along with the other judges and I will score your entry accordingly without the audio/video.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 24, 2012, 12:02:27 AM
Nothing but class in this forum  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on November 24, 2012, 12:16:10 AM
Thank you for the offer.  I think I'm going to work this one from the inside out and verify the audio path is working with a linear supply (transformer) then work on the SMPS as a sort of separate project.  For that I'll probably buy a bunch of 1771s from Mouser and give it hell (I've already fried two of these, one from a bad layout which I think I fixed (it arced from the HV rail to ground under the filter cap) and the one last night with my meter).  A better layout with test points would have been nice.  Oh the joys of a Rev 0 design.  

I'm cool with however the judging works out.  This was more of a personal challenge for me and just to see if it could be done.  
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 24, 2012, 05:49:39 AM
I expect to see FULL BUILD THREADS for each of these pedals!    ;D

Already have my FX-MAS contest circuitry brewing in the ol' noggin...   :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on November 24, 2012, 06:08:21 AM
pakrat - thanks for noticing. The countersunk LED was an attempt to give it a bit of a 60's death ray look.
Ultimately, I would like to make these countersinks parabolic reflectors - with diffused LEDs in the focal point I should be able to get much wider beam of collimated light off them. Quite frivolous, but then I am much better at physics (day job) than enclosure decoration.

garcho (and Mustachio) - build threads sound fun. My circuit could do with a little revising as the low pass filtering is currently set a bit low and I am struggling to fix this without making a right mess of the octave waveforms. Any suggestions most welcome.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 24, 2012, 08:02:52 AM
QuoteMy circuit could do with a little revising

You're in the right place, my man. Start a thread and give it a year, and your LPF will be fine tuned. Or, you'll get distracted and forget about it because you're building 1000 other things at the same time.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 24, 2012, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: defaced on November 23, 2012, 09:08:13 PM


As for any discussion regarding a time extension, I would have refused it.  I knew when I conceptualized the project it was going to be a beast, and with my current work travel schedule it would be tight. I also was unwilling to go through the motions for a smaller (but similarly scoped project), so I knew what I was getting into when I started.  


'

Mike...respect, and nothing but. ya know, you still may win something. this project is amazing, sorry for all the drama yesterday.
just really, really was bummed when i realized i'd painted us all into a corner.

you're ace in my book, man...and wow, what a concept!!!

like i said...respect.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 24, 2012, 05:29:30 PM
The mutual respect, integrity and sharing of knowledge that has been displayed here makes me feel honored to be a member of this forum.
All you guys ROCK! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 24, 2012, 05:31:52 PM
I hope I'm not stepping on any toes here, but I thought it would be nice to see all of the entries together.  I've provided them below in the chronological order that they were posted. Please let me know if I've left anyone out or if any of the information is incorrect. Thanks!  :)

Blue Warbler by Jon Patton/Midwayfair
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/59FDF514-4231-44E6-BBD5-BE03A55A024F-7273-00000844FEBC3EA0.jpg)

Juicy Pulptortion by Jürgen/Tuckster
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/29D9F81E-B3F1-4867-B5CC-D43BE9831C7C-7273-00000844F23A6318.jpg)

Frankenstein Pulse Wah by Mike Scheurer/HaveYouSeenHim
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/7200A5E6-1DE5-45D4-8106-2A854EFE40E1-7273-00000844E1FC96E5.jpg)

Blüe Monster by Bengt V./Vallhagen
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/8A9A0CDF-F39F-4096-8F22-495211081B7F-7273-00000844D6D4F986.jpg)

Folie à Deux by Gary/Garcho
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/14A9422B-B038-446C-9D57-8FFDCB57C46C-7273-00000844CE5F9C75.jpg)

Shiny Wobbly by Ian/Ronan
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/9EAE7B78-22D8-4545-87B1-C766CCDC8483-7273-000008449C103E1A.jpg)

Super Vixen by Ian M./Slacker
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/58A2D2BA-118B-4786-B03C-FAF6F34A5962-7273-0000084490E04B2A.jpg)

Little Big Angel by Pelle T./Perrow
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/FD725EEA-BDFF-48ED-AD7F-7142C10646DF-7273-0000084487603966.jpg)

Echo Base Mini by Frank/Packrat
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/F27605B5-2A0D-49B7-A01F-756E417FF0D6-7273-000008447CC1E281.jpg)

The Enchanter/Psychodrive/Top Secret by Travis Pike/Beo
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/8AB82DE2-578D-4C10-9D3D-1FB4CA72D07F-7273-00000844748A46A4.jpg)

Demon Mojo Power Fuzz by Lucifer's Trip
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/41959F3B-8D73-4E50-804E-AEA2C7FF3098-7273-00000844685CB194.jpg)

Full Face Fuzz by Gord T./GGBB
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/1C785880-F48D-4E3F-868C-150F0C17BF9A-7273-000008445DA9B31E.jpg)

Mutron Micro V by Jim/Mustachio
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/114E7AC7-9FF5-4085-BF4D-6C70D5962883-7273-000008444D708FC8.jpg)

The Puslinator by John Danna/Jdansti
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/28DE1A46-657F-4709-A9DA-68A390DCD021-7273-0000084445D074D8.jpg)

Double Up by Sam Hay/Samhay
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/19837368-6F6C-4545-AA89-E9FC542B0131-7273-000008442AA8059B.jpg)

Cut-Throat by Defaced
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/18D3F2EB-2177-4A6C-838D-188BAD21EBE1-7273-00000844213C4340.jpg)

Super Tube Screamer Executive by Packrat
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/43D74889-E36C-4912-87C1-53C3670559D4-7273-00000844188FB390.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 24, 2012, 05:44:09 PM
You forgot this one, by some guy named Mike:

(http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/4/acb4ded66f716a830a854ac87a84ae35/l.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 24, 2012, 05:51:35 PM
Quote from: garcho on November 24, 2012, 05:44:09 PM
You forgot this one, by some guy named Mike:

(http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/4/acb4ded66f716a830a854ac87a84ae35/l.jpg)

I left him out on purpose because I don't think his ideas will ever catch on.  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 24, 2012, 06:01:44 PM
@John

Actually, you did miss one. Pakrat actually entered 3 total builds. The Executive TS AND the smaller TS in his final submission were BOTH entries in the competition.

EDIT: Sorry, went back and re-read the post. The Executive TS has 2 boards in it so that accounts for the 2 entries.

Sorry to derail  :icon_redface:

I'll get back to judging now!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 24, 2012, 06:09:30 PM
@Greg- thanks for taking a look at it. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 25, 2012, 03:32:13 AM
John, thanks for putting those together. Maybe once the judges have judged, you should post that as a thread in the main? We gotta show off what a cool contest G Lack, Dino and Jimi (and Aron) put together.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 25, 2012, 03:57:05 AM
Good idea.   A summation of all entries, samples, and layouts. 

@John   Mine is called the 'Frankenstein Pulse Wah'    ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 25, 2012, 04:18:00 AM
Good idea Gary- I agree with you 100%. I'll probably just post the photos and creator names in the Pictures thread. If we want to also consolidate all of the build docs as Mike suggests, I think I would do that within this thread. I've had "unpleasant" reactions from some folks who would rather not have their time wasted by postings about the contest outside of this thread.

Mike-sorry about the name. I'll change it. Thanks for letting me know.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 25, 2012, 04:32:41 AM
Every time I look at that Blue Monster, it just melts me...I don't know why, it just does...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 25, 2012, 04:48:54 AM
QuoteI've had "unpleasant" reactions from some folks who would rather not have their time wasted by postings about the contest outside of this thread.

Wow, how silly of those people. These are great builds and interesting ideas regardless of the contest and this thread is already 50 pages and 1000 entries long, much of which is not related to the circuitry or builds but jolly banter. Hell, just explaining the rules took 10 pages. They would rather sift through faux Frank Gehry enclosures, Ron Burgandy jokes and pics of sausages instead of glance over a main forum thread? How long does it take to read a subject line, 0.1 seconds? Sorry that you got flack about it John, you're a positive force here.
I really don't understand the territorial attitude that non-Aron's have about DIYSB. Don't like it? Who gives a ____? Is your life such a piece of cake that a few extra threads on a forum seems irritating enough to send negative energy to someone? Weird.
I suppose the wisest thing is to just let the individual creators decide if they're going to do a build thread or not, and leave it at that.
Rant over.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 25, 2012, 05:47:26 AM
It's a mystery as to why there are "Contest Nazis", but I'm not going make a big deal about it or lose any sleep over it. I'm thankful for the forum as a whole, and I'm not looking to cause moderators or Aron to have to referee petty arguments.  Some things are worth fighting for and I'm careful about which battles I choose to fight.  I'll fight to the death to defend my family and country, but I choose to not get worked up over minor irritants. Ultimately this is Aron's site and I'm thankful that he supports the contest and that we have been given a thread in which to hold it.  :)

Enough talk about negative things.  I'm looking forward to the conclusion of this outstanding contest! :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 25, 2012, 07:55:12 AM
^ sorry to get negative, you're totally right. pedal power!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 25, 2012, 08:58:27 AM
This contest has produced more (many new) verified/ready to build designs in one place than I can ever remember seeing.
When was the last time any of us read a thread and said "I have to build one of those" more than ten times?
Again, thanks for sharing your efforts to all the contestants!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 25, 2012, 09:05:20 AM
I really don't understand why more people don't join these contests. It allows you to get to know people better, have some friendly competition, and best of all it pushes you to take it to the next level. I hope we have many more of these.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on November 25, 2012, 09:33:20 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 25, 2012, 04:18:00 AM
I've had "unpleasant" reactions from some folks who would rather not have their time wasted by postings about the contest outside of this thread.
Yeah because that's the stuff spamming up the forum... All you haters get a life :icon_evil:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 25, 2012, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: pakrat on November 25, 2012, 09:05:20 AM
I really don't understand why more people don't join these contests. It allows you to get to know people better, have some friendly competition, and best of all it pushes you to take it to the next level. I hope we have many more of these.
This was really the one to be in. I don't know if there will ever be a prize pool to even approach the one here.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 25, 2012, 11:29:48 AM
Awright... ive just taken myself time to listen and look more closely to the "late" entries. All goodies. Damm yea. What a quality competition this is.

Beo... Yea. Three drivin pedals in one. Classy multicolor etching as well as a very welldieigned board:)!
LucifersTrip ... Your insanity actually made me laugh. Vintage solder dammit! Very very far beyond/above/under/in front of/etc... the ordinary DIY stuff i see around here daily! What an effort!
GGBB... Very nice n shining complete fuzz thing you have there. And you managed to squeeze a battery in as well. If that is just your second(!) build, who knows what you can come up with later on!
Mustachio... That looks so good i wanna eat it! Sounds really good too. I'm gonna build one.
Jdansti... You're shocking with a "not-completely-toilet-mad-entry or what? :icon_lol: ... Thats just a great pedal:)
Samhay... I haven't been around every corner of the DIY web, but to me, the idea of adding the second upper octave is allnew. Great n'fun! And im impressed about an "A-size" build. Im too comfortable to go there myself. And... i need magnifiers for my BB builds with my eyes...
defaced... your "Completely Populated Board" picture shows something so top-of-all-lines so... nope i wont get close. So much perfection in every architechture detail. Brilliant! I really look forward to hear and view that thing when u get it alive!
pakrats second... Yep. Finally THEE tube screamer... I really like your OP-amp board. The "stacking OP-amp" idea that comes up now n then dont really attract me... Your solution does:)

***

It's fun to be in:)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 25, 2012, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: Ronan on November 25, 2012, 04:32:41 AM
Every time I look at that Blue Monster, it just melts me...I don't know why, it just does...

Luv to read that, Ian! That post just made my day. Really:) Thank you!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 12:21:09 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on November 25, 2012, 04:18:00 AM
I've had "unpleasant" reactions from some folks who would rather not have their time wasted by postings about the contest outside of this thread.


@#$% them.  :icon_eek:

there, i said it.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 25, 2012, 12:38:38 PM
You go Jimi!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 12:49:41 PM
well, i mean if they're bitching about this, they're f-tards. screw 'em.

everyone here is having fun, nobody is hurting anyone else, and ultimately, everyone on the forum benefits.

if that's an issue, they can KMFWAA
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 25, 2012, 12:55:20 PM
I would really like to thank all the participants once again. All the entries are top notch, and quite frankly, I wish we had a prize for every entry, because in my books, there are no "losers" here. Whether it be through our admiration/facination of hardware, or the fact that we managed to attract such a fine bunch of builders together "under one roof", I believe everybody's a winner here.

@pakrat - We were not too mystified as to why we didn't get a greater participation. Ultimately Greg was really disappointed with the way the 1000 competition was handled, and we believe that many other shared his POV. He has been holding the reigns of this wild stallion throughout. It was his idea from the get go, and Jimi and myself were just crazy... um, I mean honored, enough to jump onto that wagon.  :icon_lol:

Actually, it was touch and go there in the very beginning, because Greg really wasn't sure if it would fly at all. We knew that we would be facing a certain section of the forum population that may have felt a bit snake-bit from the 1000 Comp, but I feel that Greg may have been on a mission to right a wrong as well. For this, we would have been more than happy to take a bullet for him. I think it's part of the reason that Jimi and I also vollenteered our builds as prizes as well. Not so much as to show off any particular skill per se, but rather, to say "Thank you" to all of you who have helped our noob a$$es (paraphrasing Jimi :icon_mrgreen:) along the way. If it weren't for all of you, the Colorsound Vocalizer clone, among many other builds, would have probably never seen the light of day.

The fact that you state that "this was the one to be in", is our reward for our our work. In the end, the phrase "You get out, what you put in" has been validated. Insofar as having another one is concerned... I guess we're going to have to learn how to push Greg's "This is morally incorrect, and now I'm mad as hell, so I'm suggesting a contest to fix things" button.  :icon_mrgreen:

And, I second my brother Jimi's sentiment on the unpleasent reactionaries. Funny how some like to poo-poo things, when they've found themselves on the outside, looking in. Shame really, and that's all I have to say about that.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: jkokura on November 25, 2012, 01:00:04 PM
Great stuff guys and gals! I'm looking forward to congratulating the winners and mailing PCBs out ASAP.

That mega TS, the Blue Monster, that Echobase, and the cutthroat are blowing my mind.

Jacob
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on November 25, 2012, 01:01:37 PM
The only flack I saw publically -- I don't know what the judges got in PMs etc -- was when people complained about a bunch of threads linking to/publicizing the contest elsewhere on the forum. Like the picture of a turkey. People just thought the judges were spamming the forum and/or didn't like that the threads were basically repeat content from elsewhere. I can understand their irritation but not the time they took to post about their irritation, which probably took more time and energy than just ignoring the thread.

Anyway, it would be a nightmare trying to contain multiple builds and troubleshooting questions in the same thread, and especially the contest thread, which has a ton of other stuff. I had planned on making a thread for my Blue Warbler here on DIYSB after the JMK PCB run is ready, sometime in January I expect. (There's a thread on Madbean already because I cross-posted.) I can't imagine anyone actually having a problem with a circuit's designer starting a thread about their design, especially now that the contest is closed.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 01:05:22 PM
well, i love ALL you guys....group hug, mushrooms all around!! ;)

:icon_eek:

ok, beers. hippy had a flashback.

i was, no offense, cuz i didn't participate, extremely put off by the 1000 competition. it seemed mismanaged, and messed up, so i jumped at the chance to try and make sure i could support my brothers in making THIS competition stay on the up and up.

that said, screw the naysayers, onwards thru the fog!!! <that used to be on power hitters in the 70's, remember them? i don't...cof cof...

we've tried to ensure the integrity of this competition stays tite. i think we've all done so. yah, i may get a wee bit loose...wee bit, my stoned freak ass...lol... but this one isn't gonna crash and burn like the last.

did people ever sort out the last one? did peeps finally get their prizes? i gave up on it a long time ago, other than a couple teasing posts cuz i am and asshole. <see earlier in the thread when i freely admit this...dino's met me in the flesh, larger than life itself, he can tell ya the truth, lol)

but i was proud to be involved, jazzed to watch it unfurl, and now face the worst challenge of all..trying to decide which pedals are the winners, when all i wanna do is vote straight 10's across the board.

ya'll have been an inspiration, and i thank you all from the bottom of my shriveled little dick cheney-esque black heart.

that said.. almost time to blaze, then stick on the cans and begin my turn as judge. my best wishes to all entrants, and my sincere thanks to all involved in making this contest righteous.

love you all. i mean it. yep, even you. seriously.

thanks for letting me see a little window into some very kozmic, good, old souls. peace.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 25, 2012, 01:22:07 PM
Quoteabout a bunch of threads linking to/publicizing the contest elsewhere on the forum. Like the picture of a turkey

Wow, 3 posts on a forum full of threads like, "is Tayda, like, good to buy from and stuff?" and that's a bunch of spamming? I thought I was promoting the contest for the sake of the forum, in a way that was at least a little humorous, as opposed to guilt-driven.

I sincerely apologize if it irritated anyone! I won't do it again, sorry dudes, my bad.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
this is an actual screenshot of my totally speechless non-small arse,  contemplating some of the most amazing entries ever posted on this forum:



(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/556165_4542578175421_1359382236_n.jpg)


best of luck to all who entered, and my thanks to all involved. i'm gonna spend the next 9 hours or so working. this is gonna be an amazing journey, as i revisit each entry in secession....

Greg and Dino, will try and be done with this tonite, worst case tomorrow. still struggling with excell, just might use paper for me.

rock on, and let the judging commence....

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 25, 2012, 02:53:03 PM
First and foremost....

I would like to say that it has been MY pleasure to be able to be a part of this contest. I think that the initial ideals that we (Dino, Jimi, and myself) set forth to instill in this competition have come to light. New and inspiring builds, Open competition to even the newest member (even though I do not believe any "new" members entered  :-\), and most of all.... integrity throughout!  ;D

As for the 1000 competition. My thoughts on that are my own. Dino and Jimi may speculate as to how I feel about it however, here is my "official" opinion.

I have NO ideas about what went wrong with it OR how things went wrong. I DO NOT want to talk negatively about it as I have NO idea the background nor the inner workings of that competition. It was brought to the forum, ran its course, and now it is over. Beyond that, I posted some minor follies regarding the lack of "prize representation" on the thread but, other than that.... I have no other good or bad things to say about it. I only hope to see the prize pedal from that competition soon.

I would like to thank Aron for hosting this great competition. I would also like to thank Dino (digi2t) and Jimi (pinkjimiphoton) for volunteering not only their time to pseudo-moderate the thread AND their time to judge such GREAT entries, but also for personally putting up a prize at their own expense to make this happen. I would also like to thank ALL of the prize givers. Some were courted and some just plain volunteered to be a part of this. Regardless, without all of you, this would have NEVER been as great as it turned out.

I hope that MANY of you get some fantastic builds out of this competition. But, most of all, I hope that it inspires some of you to take the initiative to create your own competitions here on DIYStomp!!!

Then, maybe I CAN ENTER and win something for once  :icon_eek:

THANKS YOU TO ALL THAT MADE THIS GREAT!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 25, 2012, 03:04:45 PM
@Greg > I hope that it inspires some of you to take the initiative to create your own competitions here on DIYStomp!!!

Then, maybe I CAN ENTER and win something for once


After the judging is over, I'll be glad to discuss organizing the next contest with anyone else that would like to volunteer as an co-organizer and judge. Maybe a Mardi Gras theme with the deadline being midnight Feb 12, 2013. Y'all be thinking about it and let's talk after Nov. 30.

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/E6052A1F-18A6-42D7-9BD6-4B5264AD4569-374-000000AEB77CA7E2.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 03:17:24 PM
man. 7 in. i need to smoke a phat one and let my mind un-blow. :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

i cannot BELIEVE the quality of these pedals you guys. it's a bitch being a judge, many are so close it's just about impossible. so far it's very much neck in neck.

thanks to all. this is a trip!! :icon_mrgreen:

back to the coal mine lookin' at all the gems. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 03:57:36 PM
guys...in the future, not to be a buzzkill...but PLEASE if one of the requirements is to use another effect, DO SO.
i hate having to give a "zero" on a score that could've put someone on top.

it really seems to be making a huge difference in the scoring...well, 10 possible points, anyways.

about 3/4's done...i applaud every single @#$%ing entry. you guys blow my minds, this is a true and singular honor.

:icon_cool:
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 25, 2012, 04:20:38 PM
Bugger, I'd misread the rules and thought showing it with another effect was optional.
Ironically I was going to build something that exploited that rule and would only have done anything interesting with another effect, should have stuck with that.
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 25, 2012, 04:26:53 PM
Quote from: slacker on November 25, 2012, 04:20:38 PM
Bugger, I'd misread the rules and thought showing it with another effect was optional.

+1

I thought, first clean then effect then you can add other effects "to make your effect unique"  :(
Title: Re: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 25, 2012, 04:27:44 PM
Quote from: slacker on November 25, 2012, 04:20:38 PM
Bugger, I'd misread the rules and thought showing it with another effect was optional.
Ironically I was going to build something that exploited that rule and would only have done anything interesting with another effect, should have stuck with that.

After re-reading the first post in the thread, I can see how the entrants could view the this as optional.

"9)   Entries WILL provide evidence of a WORKING pedal! Pictures and gut shots are MANDATORY! Must include a video of the pedal in action. Video submissions must show clean guitar through amp, followed by ONLY the built pedal (with NO delay, reverb, etc.) then followed by the built pedal with ANY other effect to make your build unique. We will be judging heavily on the finished product!!! This is your chance to make it stand out!! Be creative but, do it in the order stated please."

Reading the above bolded passage, I can definitely see how it could be left to "interpretation"

I have contacted Jimi and expressed my belief that he should grade the entries accordingly. Ultimately, it is up to him on how he decides to score it.

Good luck to all!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 05:04:14 PM
hi kids,
i decided it was merely an optional grade, and judged accordingly. if it was shown with another effect, even amp reverb, it got extra points.
if it didn't, i felt i couldn't add a score there in good conscience, and therefore did not.

i don't think it mattered a whole heck of a lot in the end, as i had very high merits for all involved, and the final numbers are all within about 20 points of each other. not too shabby, guys.

thanks to every single one of you...i've never had a harder job...or felt more honored...than to be a humble judge of some of the most inspiring creations i've ever had the pleasure to listen to.

you guys are the epitome of diy, and you should slap yourselves on the back a few times. well done.

that said...

my tallys are taken, and submitted to greg, as requested, and no further changes will happen to the scoring i gave, which i believe to be fair.

it's hard to be fair judging 400 shades of simply @#$%ing awesome.

thanks for letting me participate, and i hope you enjoy your prize, when the final tally is posted and you choose your poisons.

you guys simply @#$%ing rock.

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 25, 2012, 05:37:46 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 05:04:14 PM
thanks to every single one of you...i've never had a harder job...or felt more honored...than to be a humble judge of some of the most inspiring creations i've ever had the pleasure to listen to.

And thank you for judging (and putting up with the endless questions about the rules).
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 25, 2012, 05:43:36 PM
I personally did not zero anyone for not having another pedal in the mix. I went with the optic of trying to imagine it being used in a chain, and imagining the result. I then graded it that way, and subsequently deducted 1 or 2 points for the lack of evidence. This was a gut call.

I figured with such beautiful work from all, it would have put one at a major disadvantage score-wise, just because they didn't showcase it with other pedals. In all fairness, I tried to level the playing field as much as possible.

In the end, as Jimi points out, it was VERY tough to judge. I had to reign myself in from juggling score sheets, or else I would have totally loopy. The scoring, across the board, was very tight. In my books, there was an 11 point spread between all the entries. 11 points, out of a possible 130. 

I can't wait to see the final results... this is like.... like .... CHRISTMAS!!!!!! :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on November 25, 2012, 05:46:27 PM
I'm glad I used a flanger für ~1,5sec. somewhere in my soundfile  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 25, 2012, 05:53:34 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 03:57:36 PM
guys...in the future, not to be a buzzkill...but PLEASE if one of the requirements is to use another effect, DO SO.

don't miss my "deleted scene" :icon_twisted:. after the first vid was finished I recorded another especially for that requirement. I got right down to the wire and didn't have time for other effects...

edit: sorry, didn't read further where you guys decided on making it optional....I really thought it was clearly a requirement when the rules stated "must"
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: tuckster on November 25, 2012, 05:46:27 PM
I'm glad I used a flanger für ~1,5sec. somewhere in my soundfile  :icon_wink:

lol
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 06:26:44 PM
lu, you demonic sob, you, not only did i watch the optional clip, i totally dug it. backwards fuzz guitar is one of my weak spots.

i checked your site, too...love the video. spammed it to a bunch of friends. ;)

using other effects could be deemed optional, but if there weren't any, i wasn't gonna give a single point in that category.

to me, that seemed fair and most in line with the natural laws i prefer to recognize.

again, in the end, it only would have ADDED to what were already unbelieveable scores.

i took it quite seriously; anything not submitted didn't get graded.

i started at a median of 5 points being average. no one scored below this on any potential scores, other than the use of a second effect, in which case in the end it became bonus points.

all who submitted a layout automatically got 10 points more, right there if it was an original layout. if not, it went down, but just slightly.

don't wanna give away all my secrets, or give a reason to lynch me.

thanks to all. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 06:32:33 PM
wow. that was fast. results are in, and graded, and are what they are....thanks to all who participated.

we're discussing now how to release the kraken...errr...the results so everyone knows. i was quite surprised at how it worked out, but then again, not really.

outstanding gents....round of applause, round of shots, ......'ere!!!!! cof cof!!!

i will await greg and dino's reply to my last pm, and soon, yes soon, all will know.

stay tuned. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 25, 2012, 06:39:57 PM
AHHHHHHH!!!!     I'm so excited     and i just can't hide it. I'm about to lose control and i think I like it. ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Beo on November 25, 2012, 06:51:26 PM
I don't think I realized the demo with an extra effect requirement either. With my three in one submittal, I guess I figured I was layering enough circuitry already.
Good luck everyone. The competition in this competition was fierce!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 25, 2012, 06:57:45 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 25, 2012, 06:39:57 PM
AHHHHHHH!!!!     I'm so excited     and i just can't hide it. I'm about to lose control and i think I like it. ;D

Umm... You didn't read the rule about losing points for quoting disco songs???  So sorry... :icon_cry:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 06:59:26 PM
yah, no disco....lol
Title: WINNERS ANNOUNCEMENT Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 25, 2012, 07:47:35 PM
OK FOLKS... THE MOMENT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!!!!!

I PRESENT TO YOU.... THE TURKEY DAY SHOOTOUT RESULTS!!!!

First of all... In keeping with the posts previously, the winner(s) will have 48 hours to claim their prize. Starting with #1. When they have claimed their prize, the next winner will begin their selection. Following this timeline until all of the przes have been distributed.  PLEASE claim your selection by posting ON THIS THREAD within the 48 hour period!

It was a tough competition with A LOT of great builds. The winning 8 builds were seperated by less than 15 points from #1 to #8  :icon_eek:

WITHOUT FURTHER A DO......... I PRESENT TO YOU.... YOUR VICTORS!

1) Mustachio (Mutron Mark V)
2) Pakrat (Tubescreamer Executive)
3) LucifersTrip (Antique Monster Fuzz)
4) Ronan (Shiny Wobbly)
5) Garcho (Folie a Deux)
6) Haveyouseenhim (Frankenstein Pulse Wah)
7) Vallhagen (Blue Monster)
8] JDansti (Pulsinator)

ALL were great builds and you should ALL be very proud of your accomplishments.  :icon_mrgreen:  :icon_mrgreen:  :icon_mrgreen:

Thanks to EVERYONE involved for making this competition a great source of inspiration, creativity, and true brotherhood!

Now..... when is the next one? I wanna win something.................. MAYBE!!!  :P
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 07:56:13 PM
PROPS TO THE WINNERS!!

NOW HURRY UP AND CLAIM YOUR PRIzES!!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: armdnrdy on November 25, 2012, 08:03:59 PM
Congrats to all!

Now who's going to put the sound sample links next to the names so we don't have to search through 49 pages to find them? ;D

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 25, 2012, 08:19:28 PM
AWESOME WORK GUYS!   Thank you Greg, Jimi, and Dino for putting on an awesome contest. After seeing what I was up against, I'm surprised that I even made top 8 :icon_eek:


VIVA LA DIYSB!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 08:20:22 PM
1)   Midwayfair (Jon) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg872947#msg872947
2)   Tuckster (Jurgen) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg873352#msg873352
3)   Haveyouseenhim (Mike) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg875578#msg875578
4)   Vallhagan (Bengt) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg877443#msg877443
5)   Garcho (Gary) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg877726#msg877726
6)   Ronan (Ian) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg878065#msg878065
7)   Slacker (Ian M.) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg878155#msg878155
8]   Perrow (Pelle) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg878268#msg878268
9)   Pakrat 1 (Frank) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg878890#msg878890
10)   Beo (Travis) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg879029#msg879029
11)   LucifersTrip (Dave) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg879186#msg879186
12)   GGBB (Gord) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg879476#msg879476
13)   Mustachio (Jim) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg879486#msg879486
14)   JDansti (John) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg879572#msg879572
15)   Samhay (Sam) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg879581#msg879581
16)   Defaced (Mike M.) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg879595#msg879595
17&18)   Pakrat 2&3 (Frank) - http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg879596#msg879596

ask and ye shall recieve. sometimes. if the moon's right, the tide is out, and the phat lady isn't singing somewhere or something
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: armdnrdy on November 25, 2012, 08:28:34 PM
Cool!!! Thanks
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 25, 2012, 08:29:51 PM
Is there any way I could get the judges to pm me my score sheets?   I would like to know where I can make improvements for future contests.

Or if everyone is onboard with the idea, maybe post the score sheets in the thread.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 25, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 25, 2012, 08:29:51 PM
Is there any way I could get the judges to pm me my score sheets?   I would like to know where I can make improvements for future contests.

Or if everyone is onboard with the idea, maybe post the score sheets in the thread.

We judges have discussed this already. We are going to keep the score sheets and scores under wraps.

The scoring was tight and we DO NOT want to create any drama with regards to the scores.  ;)

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 25, 2012, 08:42:08 PM
what greg says. the scoring sheets are not for public consumption. no offense intended, but you gotta understand how hard it is to objectively rate things from your friends and people you respect. as has been stated, the voting was excruciatingly close, in some cases decided by 1/10ths of a point. seriously.
i think we judges would gladly offer advice on people's builds now,  where plausible. but we won't revisit the scoring. all decisions are final, and tallied, and there's no recourse or recount.

congratulations to the winners...and by that i mean all of the guys who submitted stuff, cuz the numbers were all so close you wouldn't believe it.

you guys are

THE BEST
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 25, 2012, 08:51:35 PM
I stand with Greg and Jimi on this one.

One has to understand as well, that whether we like it or not, there will always be a certain degree of subjectiveness in the scores. It's for this reason that we have three judges. It provides certain checks and balances, and steers us away from any "One man's garbage, is another man's gold" syndromes.

It's fair that you would like to examine your particular strength or weakness, but in this context, you should be your own best critic. I learned long ago, that what was important for someone else, was not necessarily important for me, or vice versa.

Build it the way you like it, first, and foremost. I believe that is what everybody here did. The rest is in the eye, or ear, of the beholder.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 25, 2012, 09:09:24 PM
Thanks to everyone who participated in this, it was a TON of fun! Congrats Mustachio!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: boogietone on November 25, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
Congrats to the winners!  ;D It was great fun checking out all the builds.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: GGBB on November 25, 2012, 10:25:35 PM
Congrats winners!  Like others, I had a lot of fun being part of this, so thank-you judges for all your hard work and thanks to the sponsors for all the great prizes.  I can't wait for the next one (as long as it's not until spring because I can't paint enclosures on my balcony in Canadian winter :icon_biggrin:).
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 25, 2012, 10:38:21 PM
Quote(as long as it's not until spring because I can't paint enclosures on my balcony in Canadian winter ).

Part of the reason why I gave up painting them. I do the lion share of building during the winter, because that's when I have the most vacation time. So, bare aluminium it is. Nice and... Spartan. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 25, 2012, 10:40:22 PM
So... when/what's the next contest going to be?
Theme, etc., etc.?
Hmmm...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 25, 2012, 10:46:08 PM
Congrats to Jim and the other top seven. :)

I'm shocked and honored to find myself anywhere in the top eight.  The only thing I thought I could have predicted was that I wouldn't be in the top eight.  I just went back and reviewed the videos of the folks who didn't win and am still amazed at how great their entries were.

Thanks again to Dino, Jimi, and Greg for your time, efforts, and prize donations. Thanks also for doing everything you could to establish an objective scoring system. I'm sure that the organizers of the next contest would like your input on their scoring sheets.

Thanks also to the other folks who donated prizes and to Aron who sponsored this event on his site.  Finally thanks to all of the contestants who entered such awesome builds and supported each other throughout the process.

@Dava W. - I'll be glad to volunteer as a judge and help organize the next one. We might need a few days for the adrenalin of the last few days to wear off before we start planning. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 25, 2012, 11:12:06 PM
WOW!

I'm shocked! I can't believe I won anything! This is crazy!

I'm gonna chalk it up to luck. This must have been a really hard contest to judge, looking back at all the entry's I cant say any one pedal was better then the next. Everyone made some awesome pedals!

I wasn't expecting to win anything I just wanted to join the contest to help get the contest started and hoped my 10 bucks would go toward the forum in some way.

Ronan helped me tons with understanding my circuit a bit better and getting it running! I gotta give him lots of thanks, very grateful to him!

As for choosing a prize I'm torn between the XP All and the colorsound vocalizer .

Any one have any honest opinions for me ?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 25, 2012, 11:17:22 PM
You don't want the XP
No-one wants the XP
The mere thought of the XP makes you sick
You will listen to Mike and chose the vocalizer.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FjhApjkbBk0/UBiibAss6JI/AAAAAAAAAaY/slqmx8phCIo/s1600/111.jpeg)

   
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 25, 2012, 11:19:25 PM
QuoteAny one have any honest opinions for me ?

You're screwed buddy. You sound just too damn good clean. You're up sh*t's creek, in a barbed wire canoe.

And you thought winning this thing was tough.... :icon_lol:

BTW, Mike... knock it off. You're making me dizzy.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 26, 2012, 12:11:24 AM
Well thinking about it a bit more. I don't have the money or equipment to make an XP all but I think I have all the parts on hand to build a vocalizer. Which I will have to have a vocalizer at some point, cause that pedal sounds amazing! I love the vowel sounds. Its on my list to make something like that or the ludwig.

So I think I will choose the XP All!

Thanks for the compliment digi! I can't lie Ive watched nearly all of yours and jimi's videos on youtube and I've learned a few really cool licks from you guys. I'd hear something you guys played and had to rewind a few times, pick up a guitar and learn it! you guys really smoke on the frets! Just the type of music I love!

Sorry Mike :D gonna have to take the XP off the table.

I was really not sure what to pick after watching videos of digi and jimi demo the xp all and the vocalizer. They both have merit to something I'd enjoy using often.

Well thanks again for everything guys this was tons of fun and still shocking I won! I still can't believe it!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: defaced on November 26, 2012, 12:44:38 AM
Gentlemen, thanks for the compliments and the opportunity to compete.  Much respect to all.   It'll be a couple weeks because of my work travel schedule, but keep an eye on the video thread  :icon_twisted:
I can't wait till next time. 
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 26, 2012, 03:49:04 AM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/sausageprize.jpg)

well done mustachio...you are now the proud owner of a 'framed' picture of a sausage on a fork...hang it on your wall with pride!!!..well deserved! :icon_cool:


applause......applause........standing ovation.....clap....clap...........''speech''...''speech''........ ;)



@all runners up:  sorry, but there is only 1 framed sausage pic prize available. T&C's and all that stuff..   :)

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 26, 2012, 03:51:05 AM
 :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:  That's great!   I'm so jealous. Lucky bastard gets an XP All and Rob's sweet sweet sausage.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 26, 2012, 05:54:07 AM
QuoteLucky bastard gets an XP All and Rob's sweet sweet sausage.

I ain't touchin' that one, with a ten foot barge pole!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 26, 2012, 05:57:26 AM
^ now now, your just jealous.... ;D


@mustachio: have you the 'updated' schematic for your micro v  ?...i just ordered a couple of lm13700n's.. ;)

i'd like to bread it and have a tinker...

cheers!. 8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 26, 2012, 07:19:14 AM
I need to Draw up a new schematic, was working fast to finish and worked basically off the original schematic and in my head. But the layout is all correct that I posted. Gonna draw it up and posted it in a new thread soon. Hopefully I can get the pics and all build docs posted with out the compression photobucket is doing now.

going to be putting this back on the breadboard and trying to get it working with 2 or 3 LM13700's soon :) will post all that info as well.

In the mean time I sent you a pm rob with all the info on what you need to change from the original schematic to put it on the breadboard.

Oh also when I was testing transistors in the pedal I was taking them out and using the hfe test on my super cheap mm and the ones I ended up using for my build where these.

Q1-2n5089 Hfe 104
Q2-2n5089 Hfe 106
Q3-2N3906 Hfe 80 (original used a 2n5087)

I ordered some 2n5087's because I didn't have any on hand but didn't end up using any or even testing them because I was running out of time. The Hfe on the transistors I picked where all lower then most I tested. To my ear they sounded better then the ones with higher Hfe. I tested about 30-40 diff transistors most of em where 2n3904's 2n2222a bc109 2n3906 2n5089 2n5088 2n4401
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 26, 2012, 07:20:07 AM
OK....

It looks like Mustachio has chosen the XP ALL. Congratulations!!!!!

Now, Pakrat is on the clock to choose from the remaining prizes which are:

-- $25 in credit to Smallbear electronics w/ free shipping. Courtesy of Steve.
– Custom Vocalizer pedal build shipped to winner. Courtesy of Digi2t.
– Custom "Stupid Pedal Tricks" Pedal shipped to winner. Courtesy of pinkjimiphoton.
– Store credit to DIYStomp store in the amount of the entry fees (minus shipping costs). Courtesy of the entrants and Aron.
-- A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs from JMK PCBs shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Jacob
-- $50 in store credit to madbeanpedals. Courtesy of Brian "bean"
-- Grab bag of "Modulation Junkie" build parts to include: (2)TL072, (2)MN3007, (2)MN3101, (2)V3205, (2)V3102, and (20)2N5952 shipped to the winner in accordance with the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Dave "oldschoolanalog"

I will be PMing you Mustachio for your info on where to send the XP ALL.

Don't forget to PM Aron to give him the details about the custom, super fly, awesome DIYStomp T-shirt!!  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on November 26, 2012, 09:09:19 AM
Congrats to all the winners! This was a great contest it was lots of fun watching all the different effects that were submitted. :)

My build list now includes an OTA Mark V and Folie a Deux at the very least. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 26, 2012, 09:12:18 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 26, 2012, 03:51:05 AM
Lucky bastard gets an XP All and Rob's sweet sweet sausage.
While the XP All is a great prize the framed "Sweet Sausage" photo is a true art lover/collectors item.
One that is surely to increase astronomically in value to auction status over time.  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 26, 2012, 09:26:48 AM
^ indeed, a true collectors item...very rare!.. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 26, 2012, 11:09:52 AM
The "Sweet Sausage" pic will increase ASTRONAUT-omically in value.... ok, that was bad!
Guys, I am truly honored to have placed in this competition!! With so many incredible builds submitted, I'm still in a bit of shock.
Many thanks to Greg, Jimi, digi2t, and Aron for running such a great contest and for the amazing generosity in donating the prizes. You guys are true gentlemen, and it was an honor and a pleasure to take part in this. I am already looking forward to the next one.
There are so many great prizes, but I think the Colorsound Vocalizer is calling my name, so that will be my choice  ;D
Congrats to all of the winners! This was definitely a fierce competition that brought out the best in everyone. With so many great projects here, I'll surely be busy over the next few years trying to build them all.
Thanks again everyone, this was a blast!

P.S. Rob, do you think as runner up I could get a non framed version of the Sweet Sausage pic?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: samhay on November 26, 2012, 11:22:32 AM
A big congratulations to all the winners - well earned.
I had a lot of fun watching it unfold (and soldering at 2am for that matter) and am now a little daunted by my rather inflated to-build list. Not sure how many of the circuits I will be able to fit in a 1590A, but I will keep you posted.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 26, 2012, 11:27:55 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 25, 2012, 11:17:22 PM
You don't want the XP
No-one wants the XP
The mere thought of the XP makes you sick
You will listen to Mike and chose the vocalizer.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FjhApjkbBk0/UBiibAss6JI/AAAAAAAAAaY/slqmx8phCIo/s1600/111.jpeg)

   

:D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 26, 2012, 11:30:15 AM
Quote from: Mustachio on November 26, 2012, 12:11:24 AM
Well thinking about it a bit more. I don't have the money or equipment to make an XP all but I think I have all the parts on hand to build a vocalizer. Which I will have to have a vocalizer at some point, cause that pedal sounds amazing! I love the vowel sounds. Its on my list to make something like that or the ludwig.

So I think I will choose the XP All!

Thanks for the compliment digi! I can't lie Ive watched nearly all of yours and jimi's videos on youtube and I've learned a few really cool licks from you guys. I'd hear something you guys played and had to rewind a few times, pick up a guitar and learn it! you guys really smoke on the frets! Just the type of music I love!

Sorry Mike :D gonna have to take the XP off the table.

I was really not sure what to pick after watching videos of digi and jimi demo the xp all and the vocalizer. They both have merit to something I'd enjoy using often.

Well thanks again for everything guys this was tons of fun and still shocking I won! I still can't believe it!

jim,
you have chosen well. the xp all is an amazing tool, that i think you will find well-suited to your style.
vocalizers are hip...but dino's talkalyzer is hipper!!

congratulations my friend!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 26, 2012, 11:31:42 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on November 26, 2012, 03:51:05 AM
:icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:  That's great!   I'm so jealous. Lucky bastard gets an XP All and Rob's sweet sweet sausage.

i think i'm turning a little green here, bro, that doesn't sound quite right!!! lol :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 26, 2012, 11:33:49 AM
@pakrat:   the judges decisions are final.  stop trying to muscle in on jims prize. :icon_evil:

however i had a word with the judges , they protested and swore at me a lot,  but in the end they gave in and said you and the other guys are entitled to a '' runner up prize picture of a chipolata''.

here you go..enjoy

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/Plain%20Pork%20Chipolata%20prize.jpg)

note : to claim your runner up prize, right click and save. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 26, 2012, 11:36:39 AM
pakrat,
you're gonna love that vocalizer.

it's got "yoy" in spades!!

the yoy of fuzz...a beautiful thing.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 26, 2012, 11:38:04 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on November 26, 2012, 11:33:49 AM
@pakrat:   the judges decisions are final.  stop trying to muscle in on jims prize. :icon_evil:

however i had a word with the judges , they protested and swore at me a lot,  but in the end they gave in and said you and the other guys are entitled to a '' runner up prize picture of a chipolata''.

here you go..enjoy

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/Plain%20Pork%20Chipolata%20prize.jpg)

note : to claim your runner up prize, right click and save. :)

my girl said to grab it, cuz i need a bigger sausage!!! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 26, 2012, 11:39:55 AM
Thanks Jimi, that vocalizer sounds amazing!
@Rob I guess we should say congrats to all of the weiners  :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 26, 2012, 11:48:24 AM
two down, 6 to go~~

– Custom "Stupid Pedal Tricks" Pedal shipped to winner. Courtesy of pinkjimiphoton.
– Store credit to DIYStomp store in the amount of the entry fees (minus shipping costs). Courtesy of the entrants and Aron.
-- A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs from JMK PCBs shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Jacob
-- $50 in store credit to madbeanpedals. Courtesy of Brian "bean"
-- Grab bag of "Modulation Junkie" build parts to include: (2)TL072, (2)MN3007, (2)MN3101, (2)V3205, (2)V3102, and (20)2N5952 shipped to the winner in accordance with the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Dave "oldschoolanalog"


the "stupid pedal tricks" pedal is actually a custom silicon/ge/fet fuzzface called the "sterno face", it's got a few gigs under it's belt now, so it's well-housebroken. ;)



(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/548342_4241561410190_1946035467_n.jpg)

(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/284277_4241563610245_211891099_n.jpg)


happy pickin's peeps..
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 26, 2012, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on November 26, 2012, 11:48:24 AM
two down, 6 to go~~

– Custom "Stupid Pedal Tricks" Pedal shipped to winner. Courtesy of pinkjimiphoton.
– Store credit to DIYStomp store in the amount of the entry fees (minus shipping costs). Courtesy of the entrants and Aron.
-- A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs from JMK PCBs shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Jacob
-- $50 in store credit to madbeanpedals. Courtesy of Brian "bean"
-- Grab bag of "Modulation Junkie" build parts to include: (2)TL072, (2)MN3007, (2)MN3101, (2)V3205, (2)V3102, and (20)2N5952 shipped to the winner in accordance with the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Dave "oldschoolanalog"

Don't forget the $25 store credit to smallbear. Courtesy of Steve!!  ;D

Next up is LucifersTrip.

Your choice sir??
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: tuckster on November 26, 2012, 12:02:44 PM
Congrats to all you winers!!!!!
I'm glad I don't have to decide which price I want  ;D
Mustachio if the XP is boring you some day you know who's waiting for it  :icon_lol: I wouldlove to pay the shipping lol
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 26, 2012, 12:04:09 PM
Quote from: pakrat on November 26, 2012, 11:39:55 AM
Thanks Jimi, that vocalizer sounds amazing!
@Rob I guess we should say congrats to all of the weiners  :D

And exactly there, the botten is nådd, as we say in swedish.  :icon_mrgreen:

Hehe... those saucage posts actually mean something to me. Besides this geek pedal hobby and playin some music i am part of the swedish rock climbing community. And as a boring old fart in that crew i always whine about "only being in it for the bonfired sausages" (or "we're only in it for the hot dogs"... whatever translation suits...)...

***

Guys. Damm. Wow. Wow again... i'm very very happy n proud and honored to be among not only the participants, but also among the 8 winners (weiners, right... ). Hehe.. im trying to focus on solder something but i get distracted updating this page over and over...

Congrats everyone involved to a real success.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 26, 2012, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: pakrat on November 26, 2012, 11:09:52 AM
The "Sweet Sausage" pic will increase ASTRONAUT-omically in value.... ok, that was bad!
Guys, I am truly honored to have placed in this competition!! With so many incredible builds submitted, I'm still in a bit of shock.
Many thanks to Greg, Jimi, digi2t, and Aron for running such a great contest and for the amazing generosity in donating the prizes. You guys are true gentlemen, and it was an honor and a pleasure to take part in this. I am already looking forward to the next one.
There are so many great prizes, but I think the Colorsound Vocalizer is calling my name, so that will be my choice  ;D
Congrats to all of the winners! This was definitely a fierce competition that brought out the best in everyone. With so many great projects here, I'll surely be busy over the next few years trying to build them all.
Thanks again everyone, this was a blast!

P.S. Rob, do you think as runner up I could get a non framed version of the Sweet Sausage pic?

I'm honored that you chose my Vocalizer clone. Swimming against Christmas toy tide, a battery will be included.  :D

Please send a PM to Greg regarding your choice, and supply your mailing info as well. Greg is handling all the logistics, and we prefer that all info be channelled through him first, so as to avoid any mess ups. For my part, it's packaged, and ready to go.

Congrats.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 26, 2012, 12:42:50 PM
Again, thank you for the INCREDIBLE generosity digi. It will be an honor to have one of your builds on my board.... especially one that sounds that good AND has a battery included!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on November 26, 2012, 01:49:46 PM
Quote from: pakrat on November 26, 2012, 12:42:50 PM
Again, thank you for the INCREDIBLE generosity digi. It will be an honor to have one of your builds on my board.... especially one that sounds that good AND has a battery included!

No problemo miho.

It's going in the mail today.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 26, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: digi2t on November 26, 2012, 01:49:46 PM
Quote from: pakrat on November 26, 2012, 12:42:50 PM
Again, thank you for the INCREDIBLE generosity digi. It will be an honor to have one of your builds on my board.... especially one that sounds that good AND has a battery included!

No problemo miho.

It's going in the mail today.

Cheers!

:D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 26, 2012, 03:49:57 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on November 26, 2012, 11:53:29 AM

Next up is LucifersTrip.

Your choice sir??

– Store credit to DIYStomp store in the amount of the entry fees (minus shipping costs). Courtesy of the entrants and Aron.

thanx again to all involved...it was a blast. Now that I have the vids down (thanx Steve), I'll consider some more for other pedals...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: slacker on November 26, 2012, 04:20:23 PM
Congratulations to all the winners and everyone else involved in the comp, including Rob, it was a lot of fun. If any of you guys decide to run another one let me know and I'll knock up something as a prize.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 26, 2012, 06:04:00 PM
Great choice LucifersTrip! Please DIRECTLY PM Aron to make arrangements for your prize AND your T-shirt.

Next up is Ronan.... What's it gonna be?

-- $25 in credit to Smallbear electronics w/ free shipping. Courtesy of Steve.
– Custom "Stupid Pedal Tricks"  Sterno Face Pedal shipped to winner. Courtesy of pinkjimiphoton.
-- A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs from JMK PCBs shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Jacob
-- $50 in store credit to madbeanpedals. Courtesy of Brian "bean"
-- Grab bag of "Modulation Junkie" build parts to include: (2)TL072, (2)MN3007, (2)MN3101, (2)V3205, (2)V3102, and (20)2N5952 shipped to the winner in accordance with the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Dave "oldschoolanalog"

Pick your poison and remember to PM ME so I can pass it along!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on November 26, 2012, 06:09:45 PM
Congrats to all winners, been an honor competing with you. Seeing the other entries I didn't really think I'd win anything, but I hoped the non disclosed score sheets had something in them to help me get the necessary points for one of the lesser placings.

Quote from: slacker on November 26, 2012, 04:20:23 PM
Congratulations to all the winners and everyone else involved in the comp, including Rob, it was a lot of fun. If any of you guys decide to run another one let me know and I'll knock up something as a prize.

+1, I think I can pick a few things together to make up a prize.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 26, 2012, 06:35:19 PM
I'm really grateful to the judges, Aron, the prize givers, and all the contestants. I thought I'd be lucky if I got a prize, I thought my chances were slim.

And how could I not go with jimi's sterno face? That would be a blast for my fuzz-deprived home! I know I'll have to pick up the shipping but that's OK, USPS should be OK.

Thanks again for quick judging, and congrats Jim with the Micro V, really nice build!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 26, 2012, 06:59:49 PM
ian,
man, i am TRULY HONORED you would choose my humble offering!!

please pm me your addie, so we can work out the deets. i'll give it a once over, make sure the battery is fresh, and get it out asap!!

;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 26, 2012, 09:02:11 PM
Great choice Ronan!

Up next is Garcho. What WIIIIILLLLLL he choose??

-- $25 in credit to Smallbear electronics w/ free shipping. Courtesy of Steve.
-- A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs from JMK PCBs shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Jacob
-- $50 in store credit to madbeanpedals. Courtesy of Brian "bean"
-- Grab bag of "Modulation Junkie" build parts to include: (2)TL072, (2)MN3007, (2)MN3101, (2)V3205, (2)V3102, and (20)2N5952 shipped to the winner in accordance with the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Dave "oldschoolanalog"
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 27, 2012, 01:16:01 AM
 :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: WhenBoredomPeaks on November 27, 2012, 03:10:33 AM
What is going on with Mustachio's Mutron? Is it now running two LPFs in series making it's response 24db and the resonance higher?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on November 27, 2012, 03:27:59 AM
Its a micro v, and is a different circuit to the Mutron III, I don't even know how the filter works, or what it is called, its unusual (to me, a relative newb). Mustachio did an interesting mod by running the two sections of the LM13700 in parallel, which I assume halved the output impedance of the OTA(s) which feeds the opamp, which gave a definite improvement in sound according to Jim (Mustachio). Sure sounds good in the clip!

Edit - I'd really like to understand the filter in the micro v, but it might be something for another thread, unless its a really short answer :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on November 27, 2012, 04:21:21 AM
^ make it another thread, i'm very interested in this too... ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on November 27, 2012, 04:30:49 AM
Haha I'd like to understand it more too! I will be starting a build thread on this soon and try to modify this further hopefully with help from all you guys.

Ronan probably understands this circuit better then I do, he helped me a lot. When I was working on this I put the lm13700 on the bread board isolated from the pcb and ran jumpers from the pcb socket to the connected pins on the bread board. I Had it all working normal first with one side of the OTA. Then I tried to just jumper over to the other half of the OTA. Removed pin 5 the output and tried to run it just off of pin 12 (other halfs output) and it was no go. It was just a closed filter sound that would not envelope at all.... Stumped I tried everything I could and read up on it. then I noticed ronans project with multipul LM's and he mentioned his trials and the amp bias input. So I went to work there and after some trial and error and Ronan telling me about cutting the resistor in half leading to the bias I got both sides working independently of each other. Then I Did some A/B tests with pin 12 connected along with Pin 5, And just Pin 5 or Just pin 12. And Overall the sound of the filter the response and sweep seemed sweeter and more vocal with both outputs connected. I made sure to try it over and over for a few nights. There is defiantly a noticeable difference between running both sides instead of just one. And that difference was better with 2.

I also thought It would be nice to have a layout for everyone to build another envelope filter that used easy to source, cheap parts. The fact that it sounds better with both sides of the dual ota running together was just cake!

I will bread board it again and try to get it working with maybe 2 or 3 LM13700's (6 OTA's!) might be neat. But yeah hopefully some one can explain to us the different blocks of the circuit and how they effect each other so maybe we can improve on it as a group! It is a neat filter.

In the next version I have a few ideas like a switch to route the input and/or output through the extra buffers on the OTA (so you can select if you want buffered in or out depending on where the pedal is in your chain) and possibly changing the dual opamp to a quad opamp and use the extra channels for an FX loop.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 27, 2012, 10:11:34 AM
DUDES!

thank you so much! I've been traveling for about 48 hours or so, sorry it took me so long to get back to y'all.

It's honor to be among these contestants, and to actually place makes me feel like a million bucks! I can't wait to build all y'all's pedals! Turkey Day Shootout Pedal Board coming up!

I'll take the $25 bucks at Small Bear. It was a hard decision to make, thank you so much to all of the generous peeps offering prizes! I'm looking forward to returning the favor.

Thanks to the judges for all the hard work and PITA it takes to do this.

Thanks to Aron and all the awesome folks here.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 27, 2012, 11:27:44 AM
Alright!!!!  :D

Nice choice Gary! Don't forget to PM me with your name, address, and your selection so I can pass it along to Steve! Also, don't forget to contact Aron about that FABULOUS T-shirt!!!  8)

Up next is Mike (haveyouseen him).... Here is what you have to choose from:

-- A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs from JMK PCBs shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Jacob
-- $50 in store credit to madbeanpedals. Courtesy of Brian "bean"
-- Grab bag of "Modulation Junkie" build parts to include: (2)TL072, (2)MN3007, (2)MN3101, (2)V3205, (2)V3102, and (20)2N5952 shipped to the winner in accordance with the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Dave "oldschoolanalog"

Clock's ticking bro!  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 27, 2012, 01:13:17 PM
Thanks to all of the judges and people that helped out this talentless noob come up with a semi presentable pedal. I really wouldn't have been able to do it without my good friends here at DIYSB.

I think I'll go with the modulation junkie grab bag.      All I have to do now is find a project that uses these goodies!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 27, 2012, 01:21:30 PM
Cool Mike! Dont forget to PM me with your details so I can get the ball rolling with oldschoolanalog! Also, don't forget to contact Aron with the same so you can get your shirt!

Vallhagan.... You are up NEXT!!

-- A prize pack of your choice of 3 PCBs from JMK PCBs shipped to the winner in accordance to the rules in the initial post. Courtesy of Jacob
-- $50 in store credit to madbeanpedals. Courtesy of Brian "bean"

What will it be??

PCBs or....... PCBs??

Oh the drama  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 27, 2012, 01:30:36 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on November 27, 2012, 01:21:30 PM
PCBs or....... PCBs??

Haha.   I didn't really want pcbs because I like for my builds to be completely DIY. When I use a prefabbed board it feels like I'm cheating :-\

Although Brian has some sick pedals I definitely have to try soon
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 27, 2012, 01:54:46 PM
QuoteAlthough Brian has some sick pedals I definitely have to try soon

most def
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on November 27, 2012, 02:15:21 PM
Fantastic!

Hmm...hmmm...

Ok: Among those fantastic prizes i pick the
-- $50 in store credit to madbeanpedals. Courtesy of Brian "bean"

Thank you. thank you and thank you!  :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 27, 2012, 02:28:43 PM
OK... Congratulations Vallhagan!!  ;D

Please PM me with your info so I can coordinate with Brian to get you set up with your prize.

I guess that leaves JDansti. You get the PCB pack from JMK pedals!!! Please PM me also with your details  ;D

Also, don't forget to PM Aron about the shirt.... GOTTA REPRESENT!  :icon_twisted:

I would just like to take this opportunity to finally thank Dino (digi2t), Jimi (pinkjimiphoton), Aron, all the prize givers, and also the entrants for making this competition a great SUCCESS!!! Some great builds came out of this as well as some new opportunities for some  ;)

I look forward to seeing more competitions here on DIYStomp!!!  8)

As soon as I pass along the final winner's details, I am going to have Aron cut the weights and release the thread.

GOTTA MAKE ROOM FOR THE NEXT ONE!  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on November 27, 2012, 03:04:17 PM
>... I am going to have Aron cut the weights and release the thread.
Not until all the build info is put together in one place! Please!

Now, to sum it all up a final word from one of our sponsors:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/sausage.jpeg)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on November 27, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on November 27, 2012, 03:04:17 PM
Not until all the build info is put together in one place! Please!

I thought it was all put together in THIS place.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on November 27, 2012, 03:50:32 PM
QuoteNot until all the build info is put together in one place! Please!

I think G Lack means it just won't be at the top of the list of threads anymore.

I, for one, am excited to do a build thread once I tweak a couple elements and update the schematic/layout accordingly.

(http://cdn5.fotosearch.com/bthumb/FSD/FSD445/x18503431.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 27, 2012, 04:20:44 PM
^ I'm German so that's really f-ing hot :icon_mrgreen:











disclaimer>  that was a JOKE
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 27, 2012, 05:44:18 PM
u sick sick young man. ^^ lol
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on November 27, 2012, 06:22:19 PM
Umm...  I think I'll take the PCB pack from JMK pedals, please.   ;)

Actually, this is a really great prize you guys passed up. I purchased a board from him a while back and I am very pleased with it. I'm looking forward to three more!  There were no "dud" prizes in this contest.

Well guys, it was a whole lot of fun, but I'm glad it's over!  I'm looking forward to some more leisurely building after I reorganize my work room. It looks like a tornado hit the Mouser warehouse in there.

Thanks again to everyone involved in this contest.  See y'all around the forum.  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 27, 2012, 06:32:02 PM
(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/fatladysings.jpg)












(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/pinkjimiphoton/23106833.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: jkokura on November 28, 2012, 01:46:00 PM
So glad to see this come off so successfully. Super builds were seen, and no bad ones really. It's too bad that we couldn't have prizes for everyone!

Congrats to all the winners, and I'll having your prize in the mail asap John!

Jacob
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on November 28, 2012, 03:18:10 PM
Jacob, thanks to you and everyone else for sponsoring this contest!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 29, 2012, 05:30:18 PM
ps: thought you might get a kick out of this now that it's over:



http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.260

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg871698#msg871698

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg871707#msg871707
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on November 29, 2012, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: LucifersTrip on November 29, 2012, 05:30:18 PM
ps: thought you might get a kick out of this now that it's over:



http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.260

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg871698#msg871698

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99142.msg871707#msg871707

Haha   but you didn't even use a board! ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 29, 2012, 09:36:47 PM
oh, shit, does that mean we owe dave 10 bucks?  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on November 29, 2012, 10:52:46 PM
>Haha   but you didn't even use a board!

hey man, turret counts as a board...

>oh, sh*t, does that mean we owe dave 10 bucks?  :icon_mrgreen:

...and I did get it back with my prize!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on November 29, 2012, 11:20:37 PM
lol....nice!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on December 01, 2012, 12:11:07 AM
Well well well...... I recieved my prize today (Colorsound Vocalizer).... Dino ships faster than Amazon! I don't even know what to say really, except that this pedal really sounds amazing  :icon_eek: I debated weather or not to post until I have a video of some sort, but I decided to just let everyone know that I actually recieved it. Guys, I can't thank you enough for providing us with such a great competition. It has been an incredible learning experience and I look forward to many more of these! As I said to Dino, I'm extremely proud to have one of his builds on my board. I will put together a vid of this great pedal soon. Thanks again Greg, Dino, Jimi, and Aron.... and everyone who participated. I ain't got the words!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on December 01, 2012, 08:51:39 AM
Hey, prize winners!
Post here and show off your prizes.
This way everybody can see what was won and give them a bit of incentive to enter future contests!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 01, 2012, 09:27:44 AM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on December 01, 2012, 08:51:39 AM
Hey, prize winners!
Post here and show off your prizes.
This way everybody can see what was won and give them a bit of incentive to enter future contests!

My tracking page says mine will be here today.   I cant wait :icon_biggrin:


Did the other contest prize ever pop up?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 01, 2012, 04:30:49 PM
i was down for a couple days with "montezuma's revenge", will be shipping ian's sterno face hopefully monday...

all ya'll rock!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: aron on December 01, 2012, 05:27:52 PM
Just making sure everyone has contacted me with their address. Will ship out the T-Shirts beginning of next week.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on December 01, 2012, 07:44:13 PM
I got the XP All yesterday! I was busy remodeling all day and night so I didn't get to play with it till late but I did get in a few notes before I passed out! Gotta say its crazy ! Especially the backwards guitar stuff woah!  I still gotta figure out how to use the thing! I gotta get used to the pitch bending for pedal steel guitar sounds!

Ill try to make a short video later.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 01, 2012, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: Mustachio on December 01, 2012, 07:44:13 PM
I got the XP All yesterday! I was busy remodeling all day and night so I didn't get to play with it till late but I did get in a few notes before I passed out! Gotta say its crazy ! Especially the backwards guitar stuff woah!  I still gotta figure out how to use the thing! I gotta get used to the pitch bending for pedal steel guitar sounds!

Ill try to make a short video later.

ENVY
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 04, 2012, 12:07:55 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on December 01, 2012, 09:27:44 AM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on December 01, 2012, 08:51:39 AM
Hey, prize winners!
Post here and show off your prizes.
This way everybody can see what was won and give them a bit of incentive to enter future contests!

My tracking page says mine will be here today.   I cant wait :icon_biggrin:


Did the other contest prize ever pop up?

My prize was stuck in New York for a few days and on the usps tracking it says it was delivered and no one was home so there was a notice left, but there was nothing left here  :icon_mad:

Gotta go pick it up at the post office tomorrow    cant wait ;D

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 04, 2012, 04:23:52 PM
Yay. My goodies got here today!

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07902.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on December 04, 2012, 05:11:52 PM
You're welcome! :icon_cool:
Now get those ICs back into the conductive foam and put them & the FETs into the anti-static bag like they were sent!
Happy delay/chorus/flange/phasing!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 04, 2012, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on December 04, 2012, 05:11:52 PM
Now get those ICs back into the conductive foam and put them & the FETs into the anti-static bag like they were sent!

I did as soon as I was done taking the pic ;D   
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on December 04, 2012, 05:40:35 PM
Nice! I wasn't confident enough to pick such a gallant prize. Figured they'd be sitting on my bench, humiliatingly untouched a year from now. Can't wait to hear what you build with them.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 04, 2012, 07:58:27 PM
I'm leaning towards a flanger. That's one effect I've yet to take on. Any suggestions on which one?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on December 04, 2012, 09:01:34 PM
With this one you can utilize an 3007/3101 set & the 072's in the audio path. A schematic should be easy to find (I didn't see one in the docs there). Read the build reports for more good info.
http://www.tonepad.com/getFile.asp?id=49
I picked that one so you can use as many of the parts in your package as possible.
I will dig around to try to find more ideas using those IC's.
A nice chorus is always an option. The Boss CE2 is a good one; well documented and lots of mods available for it.
http://www.tonepad.com/getFile.asp?id=101
If you just want to use the 3007 and a different clock the flanger options are large and varied. EM, MXR117, A/DA, Hollis Ultrafllanger, etc...
Layouts are out there for all of these too.
Phasers & delays are calling out to you also... ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 04, 2012, 10:10:15 PM
I'm really diggin the first one  :icon_cool:

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on December 04, 2012, 11:04:51 PM
build something that would at least cost a couple hundred bux (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/smiley-green-grayback.jpg)

Link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ibanez-FL-301-Flanger-Vintage-Rare-Original-18-Volt-Analog-/271112291253?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D3932655534813276777%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D271112291253%26)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on December 04, 2012, 11:11:28 PM
Incorrect info in the vid.
It really is based on the MN3007 run @ 12V. The 18V PS is regulated down to 12V and the BBD is an MN3007 according to the schematic I just looked at.
18V will fry the MN32XX BBDs.
Anyway, it does have some very nice sounds. I say GO FOR IT! :icon_cool:

Quote from: LucifersTrip on December 04, 2012, 11:04:51 PM
build something that would at least cost a couple hundred bux (http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/smiley-green-grayback.jpg)
A/DA time!  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: armdnrdy on December 04, 2012, 11:30:42 PM
Looks like you have the right parts to make a stereo echo flanger thingy.  ;D

I'll get to work right away on the design for you.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 04, 2012, 11:55:42 PM
And demo it with the intro from "Spirit of the Radio"!  :) Start practicing! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: armdnrdy on December 05, 2012, 12:25:30 AM
May your bright antenna bristle from the energy!  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Pyr0 on December 07, 2012, 01:12:53 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on December 04, 2012, 07:58:27 PM
I'm leaning towards a flanger. That's one effect I've yet to take on. Any suggestions on which one?

Another vote for the A/DA Flanger. Sounds really great.
It's a pretty simple build on vero, debugging is a sinch  ;D and works great with an LT1054 based voltage doubler. Here's one I did earlier, look how easy it is  ;)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20272266/ADA-guts1.jpg)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20272266/ADA-Flanger.jpg)

;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 07, 2012, 02:28:20 AM
^I bet Mike could build that in his sleep... ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on December 07, 2012, 03:16:58 AM
Yeah he knocked up 2 pcb's and built a tube overdrive the other night! He has no limits  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 07, 2012, 03:59:16 AM
Quote from: Ronan on December 07, 2012, 03:16:58 AM
Yeah he knocked up 2 pcb's and built a tube overdrive the other night! He has no limits  :)


Haha. I made two tube driver pcbs (one for Jimi), and I made these last night. FL-301 flanger and a 1590a Zombie Chorus.  My back is jacked up from hunching over the solder station :icon_lol:  Now I'm just waiting for my Tayda order that has been in transit for what feels like forever.

not to mention the two crybabys that I modded for people

I'M A MACHINE!    Although it still feels like I don't get enough done

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07904.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 07, 2012, 05:06:03 AM
@mike, you busy bee, any tick on the zombie?..just curious. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 07, 2012, 05:09:53 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on December 07, 2012, 05:06:03 AM
@mike, you busy bee, any tick on the zombie?..just curious. :)

It's not done yet. I'm waiting on tayda
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 07, 2012, 05:16:49 AM
oh i see...its just that i have a few of those 4046's lying around.. ;)

i  built one years ago and it was fine,  the john hollis version with anti tick mod.  nice chorus. 8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 07, 2012, 05:27:47 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on December 07, 2012, 05:16:49 AM
oh i see...its just that i have a few of those 4046's lying around.. ;)

i  built one years ago and it was fine,  the john hollis version with anti tick mod.  nice chorus. 8)

I know u did    3 years ago. I'm stalking you :icon_twisted:




Nahh  I just happened to see a youtube video of it that you commented on 3 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDSOfsHRyCw

I saw this vid and it sold me on the zombie
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 07, 2012, 05:32:24 AM
i know you are you weirdo... ;D

here it is,..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxvZKri-5QA&list=UUGP0eO8ADt0H9FY5UcHTf8A&index=47
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on December 07, 2012, 07:04:33 AM
Quote(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07904.jpg)

Geez... how'da get the dog to lie so still for the shot?

;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 07, 2012, 07:20:33 AM
Hahahaha. That is a rabbit fur. It's the one I harvested with a D battery out of a potato gun. We made rabbit soft tacos and used the endtrails for fish bait.

I know that sounds crazy redneck, but I assure you, I hate rednecks. :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on December 07, 2012, 07:40:34 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on December 07, 2012, 07:20:33 AM
It's the one I harvested with a D battery out of a potato gun.
That IS redneck crazy. :icon_lol:
QuoteWe made rabbit soft tacos and used the endtrails for fish bait.
The tacos sound very tasty. Good to see you used the most you could of your kill. Don't forget to put the the blood & bones in your compost pile. They are loaded with nutrients. Animal guts make great bait! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on December 07, 2012, 08:37:42 AM
@Pyr0: Nice job. :icon_cool:
Here's mine on perf:
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w121/oldschoolanalog/DSC00396.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w121/oldschoolanalog/DSC00380.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on December 07, 2012, 09:00:56 AM
@Mustachio

Any videos of that XP ALL in action??

Enquiring ears want to hear  8)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on December 07, 2012, 09:32:40 AM
Was Just playing with it earlier! Its awesome I will try to record a video later today. There's so many different sounds you can get out of it. I gotta say the modulator is really nice sounding and useful all those lush rotary and stereo panning is awesome. I think I may try to record in stereo with 2 mics 2 amps into the mixer with them panned away from each other.

The reverse patches in the space station are crazy, a little hard to control and time out at first but I got the hang of it a few times. The wah's are really good much better then I thought. Ill see if I can put together a few songs in a video.

Was testing the Mutron III vs. the Mutron V earlier as well. They both have their strong points but overall I like the V better in most situations. Ill make a video of that too! Been really busy remodeling so ill take a break from that today and make some videos and get some soldering done! ( I'm building a superfly! )
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on December 07, 2012, 10:21:37 AM
@Jim

Anxiously awaiting the soulful sounds of Mustachio  ;)
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on December 07, 2012, 10:42:32 AM
Mustachio, breadboard the tonestack for the superfly, I wasn't too happy with how mine turned out.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on December 07, 2012, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on December 07, 2012, 05:06:03 AM
@mike, you busy bee, any tick on the zombie?..just curious. :)

Had mine connected today (and got my Small Clone working, apparently you have to mind the direction on the ICs), the background noise pulsates a bit, but it's not boxed up so I guess that would mostly disappear with some shielding.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 08, 2012, 04:45:24 AM
My Tayda order came in today and with it a 1590a. I got the zombie chorus all populated. So I fitted it to the 1590a, BUT IT DOESN'T FIT! :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

Even with trimming the board down to solder joints it still has about 1 to 1.5 mm to go before it will fit

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 08, 2012, 05:14:26 AM
Quote from: Perrow on December 07, 2012, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on December 07, 2012, 05:06:03 AM
@mike, you busy bee, any tick on the zombie?..just curious. :)

Had mine connected today (and got my Small Clone working, apparently you have to mind the direction on the ICs), the background noise pulsates a bit, but it's not boxed up so I guess that would mostly disappear with some shielding.

hmmmm....good news on the small clone then.  ''mind the direction on the ICs''  yeah i read that...


re zombie:  see how that goes when boxed then..cheers, ;)
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on December 08, 2012, 10:22:24 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on December 08, 2012, 05:14:26 AM
Quote from: Perrow on December 07, 2012, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on December 07, 2012, 05:06:03 AM@mike, you busy bee, any tick on the zombie?..just curious. :)

Had mine connected today (and got my Small Clone working, apparently you have to mind the direction on the ICs), the background noise pulsates a bit, but it's not boxed up so I guess that would mostly disappear with some shielding.

hmmmm....good news on the small clone then.  ''mind the direction on the ICs''  yeah i read that...


re zombie:  see how that goes when boxed then..cheers, ;)
The 4047 that was the wrong direction, survived, but the 3007 was dead when I got the '47 sorted :( no idea if that's what killed it or if it was doa.
Title: Re: Sv: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 08, 2012, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: Perrow on December 08, 2012, 10:22:24 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on December 08, 2012, 05:14:26 AM
Quote from: Perrow on December 07, 2012, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on December 07, 2012, 05:06:03 AM
@mike, you busy bee, any tick on the zombie?..just curious. :)

Had mine connected today (and got my Small Clone working, apparently you have to mind the direction on the ICs), the background noise pulsates a bit, but it's not boxed up so I guess that would mostly disappear with some shielding.

hmmmm....good news on the small clone then.  ''mind the direction on the ICs''  yeah i read that...


re zombie:  see how that goes when boxed then..cheers, ;)
The 4047 that was the wrong direction, survived, but the 3007 was dead when I got the '47 sorted :( no idea if that's what killed it or if it was doa.

4047? My layout calls for a 4046. Is there any difference?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 08, 2012, 10:42:23 AM
4047 for the small clone

4046 for the zombie

;)
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on December 08, 2012, 10:44:58 AM
Yeah, talking clones, not zombies :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 08, 2012, 10:48:55 AM
Ah   oops ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 08, 2012, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on December 08, 2012, 04:45:24 AM
My Tayda order came in today and with it a 1590a. I got the zombie chorus all populated. So I fitted it to the 1590a, BUT IT DOESN'T FIT! :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

Even with trimming the board down to solder joints it still has about 1 to 1.5 mm to go before it will fit



You need one of those circuit board shrinkers. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 08, 2012, 02:22:01 PM
AKA hammer
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 09, 2012, 04:02:32 AM

Thanks Aron!   Fits great


(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07912.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on December 09, 2012, 06:31:31 AM
Hey Hey! Nice shirt! I just got mine in the mail today too! I forgot to wear it when I went to record a little video with the XP ALL. Thanks Aaron!

I had some problems and will record some better stuff soon, But I figured I would try to salvage a little from what I recorded last night. I had the mic's all set up wrong on my mixer trying to record in stereo. Levels where off and one mic was set up more for vocals with its EQ. So sorry some parts have too much highs. I'll fix it up in the next one.

Here's a little reverse guitar with the XP All.



The video doesnt look in sync but thats just the latency on how the reverse effect works. The video is actually in real time with the sound as I heard it as I played. I'll see what else is useable from what I recorded and try to put up some more. This monster of a pedal has so many effects it needs some more demos! Thanks for the amazing pedal Gov!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 09, 2012, 07:38:23 AM
Trippy  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on December 09, 2012, 09:32:08 AM
!sknahT !nam oediv eciN

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: aron on December 09, 2012, 12:03:25 PM
COOL!!!!!!! Yeah, everyone post pics of the shirt!

Aron
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 09, 2012, 04:53:28 PM
Quote from: aron on December 09, 2012, 12:03:25 PM
COOL!!!!!!! Yeah, everyone post pics of the shirt!

Aron

Thanks, Aron!  Here's mine.  I wasn't very presentable, so I used a model.  :)

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/FB04B25D-08A6-45C7-8894-8A2A8A0A3598-17644-000012AA36B43506.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 09, 2012, 05:16:29 PM
 :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 09, 2012, 05:20:02 PM
@Jim- Cool reverse sounds!!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on December 09, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
@Jim That thing sounds AWESOME!

I had hoped to get a video of the Colorsound Vocalizer finished by now, but I've been sick for the last 2 months with a serious tooth infection that will NOT go away  >:(
I also recieved my shirt and will post a pic asap. And what a great shirt.... nice quality Hanes tagless. If the store ever gets more XL in stock, I'll buy at least 5 of them. Thanks Aron!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 10, 2012, 04:26:06 AM
Quote from: aron on December 09, 2012, 12:03:25 PM
COOL!!!!!!! Yeah, everyone post pics of the shirt!

Aron


i'd buy one if they were XXXL (i'm a fat liitle piggy) ::) :icon_redface: :'(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on December 10, 2012, 09:26:15 AM
plumpastronaut?  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 10, 2012, 09:30:34 AM
Quote from: pakrat on December 10, 2012, 09:26:15 AM
plumpastronaut?  ;D

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on December 10, 2012, 10:30:46 AM
Muhahahahaaaa
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 10, 2012, 10:32:14 AM
@aron

could you please ban pakrat and haveyouseenhim? :D lol.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pakrat on December 10, 2012, 11:41:40 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 10, 2012, 12:13:54 PM
 :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 10, 2012, 02:03:52 PM
now now, rob, i got ya beat!!!!! ;)
360lbs...how many stone is that across the pond?

i am HOPING to get the sterno face off today or tomorrow to ian.
between the damn flu and my back, i've been pretty limited in getting out, sorry man..
it IS coming, it's boxed up, i just gotta get to the damn post office!!

unless it's obscene, i got the shipping for taking so long. if it's 20 bux or under, i'm good to go.

thanks for the patience!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 10, 2012, 02:06:54 PM
Quote from: Mustachio on December 09, 2012, 06:31:31 AM
Hey Hey! Nice shirt! I just got mine in the mail today too! I forgot to wear it when I went to record a little video with the XP ALL. Thanks Aaron!

I had some problems and will record some better stuff soon, But I figured I would try to salvage a little from what I recorded last night. I had the mic's all set up wrong on my mixer trying to record in stereo. Levels where off and one mic was set up more for vocals with its EQ. So sorry some parts have too much highs. I'll fix it up in the next one.

Here's a little reverse guitar with the XP All.



The video doesnt look in sync but thats just the latency on how the reverse effect works. The video is actually in real time with the sound as I heard it as I played. I'll see what else is useable from what I recorded and try to put up some more. This monster of a pedal has so many effects it needs some more demos! Thanks for the amazing pedal Gov!

hard to play coherent lines backwards bro, well done!!

my fav i think is patch 13 of the xpall...forwards and backwards at the same time.
patch 10 is freekin' sick, too...i love how it slows down, then speeds up coming at ya backwards!!

trying to figure a way to integrate mine with my live rig, seems to dump too much hash on the power supply with some of the fuzzes i never turn off.

it's probably the dang fuzz, not the xp!!

i'm learning just how much better i am at this than i was...still a LONG way to go!!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 10, 2012, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on December 10, 2012, 02:03:52 PM
now now, rob, i got ya beat!!!!! ;)
360lbs...how many stone is that across the pond?



dunno, but i wish we could have much bigger t-shirts for us  healthy dudes.... ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on December 10, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Big thanks to Aron, Small Bear and the judges!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8208/8262355734_a161ec0236_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 11, 2012, 01:56:42 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on December 10, 2012, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on December 10, 2012, 02:03:52 PM
now now, rob, i got ya beat!!!!! ;)
360lbs...how many stone is that across the pond?



dunno, but i wish we could have much bigger t-shirts for us  healthy dudes.... ;D

I get "healthier" every day, although my wife is trying to make me "unhealthy". ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on December 11, 2012, 03:26:22 AM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on December 10, 2012, 02:03:52 PM
i am HOPING to get the sterno face off today or tomorrow to ian.
between the damn flu and my back, i've been pretty limited in getting out, sorry man..
it IS coming, it's boxed up, i just gotta get to the damn post office!!

unless it's obscene, i got the shipping for taking so long. if it's 20 bux or under, i'm good to go.

thanks for the patience!!

Not a problem jimi, but sad to hear you've not been well. Wait till you get better before venturing out, there could be queues (q's? cues?) at the post office due to Xmas, it can wait till January if you want. No fun standing in a q with a bad back. All in due course, no worries.

Now I'm thinking how generous the judges, prizegivers and Aron have been, a rare example of people who give more than they take. So nice to see, a breath of fresh air  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 11, 2012, 06:06:43 AM
Quote from: Ronan on December 11, 2012, 03:26:22 AM

Now I'm thinking how generous the judges, prizegivers and Aron have been, a rare example of people who give more than they take. So nice to see, a breath of fresh air  :)

+1 yep, a truly great forum with genuine good guys!.. 8)

i look forward to the next comp, i'll be in, either as a contestant/prizegiver/or just as annoying as i have been on this one ;D..defo next time. :)
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Perrow on December 11, 2012, 10:10:39 AM
It would be great to have d'Astro annoying AND participate for once ;D

I fear the annoying "part" will never leave him ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on December 11, 2012, 11:56:47 AM
Next comp a prize should be the actual "Sausage on a Fork" encased in resin and signed by it's creator. ;D
Talk about collectable!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on December 11, 2012, 12:00:00 PM
+1 @ ^

Can a 3PDT fit in a sausage casing? I wonder what the ohmage is for sausage resistance?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 11, 2012, 01:40:10 PM
ya gotta use sausages as capacitors. always use the right tool for the right job!!!


@ rob... tis a poor man, can't erect a shelter over his tools, tis said..  :icon_eek:

if i can get the motivation to get up today, i probably will do nothing.

almost pulled a hendrix last nite. note to self: never eat gineen's home made blueberry pie before lieing down...lol
Title: Re: Sv: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: deadastronaut on December 12, 2012, 03:05:22 AM
Quote from: Perrow on December 11, 2012, 10:10:39 AM


I fear the annoying "part" will never leave him ;)

yeah that ain't gonna happen ..  just learn to live with it....i have..... ;D


@jimi:  my shelters fine, its just that the roof is a bit wobbly.. ;)

@dave: great idea, i know most members would be proud to have that ..... :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on December 12, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
Next competition.....

Im just gonna be in it for da' shirt!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 12, 2012, 08:14:38 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on December 12, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
Next competition.....

Im just gonna be in it for da' shirt!!!  ;D

If you are in the next one I'm out. I'll judge or contribute a prize. Seeing your echoflanger from the last one  :icon_eek: no thanks
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 12, 2012, 08:28:10 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on December 12, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
Next competition.....

Im just gonna be in it for da' shirt!!!  ;D

The shirt prize for the next contest:

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/FF996FF0-A655-49D8-86B2-1BB351A31504-1562-0000015968E658C5.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on December 12, 2012, 09:02:23 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on December 12, 2012, 08:28:10 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on December 12, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
Next competition.....

Im just gonna be in it for da' shirt!!!  ;D

The shirt prize for the next contest:

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/FF996FF0-A655-49D8-86B2-1BB351A31504-1562-0000015968E658C5.jpg)

I'm with Greg on that one then.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 12, 2012, 12:55:52 PM
mmmm, sausage. but no fork? ::) :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: midwayfair on December 12, 2012, 12:57:05 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on December 12, 2012, 12:55:52 PM
mmmm, sausage. but no fork? ::) :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:

If you got a sausage, you gotta have a fork now and then.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 12, 2012, 01:05:13 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on December 12, 2012, 12:57:05 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on December 12, 2012, 12:55:52 PM
mmmm, sausage. but no fork? ::) :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:

If you got a sausage, you gotta have a fork now and then.

Ah hah. I lol'd  :D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: oldschoolanalog on December 12, 2012, 01:10:31 PM
Fork the pork?
T minus leet!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 12, 2012, 01:16:49 PM
i know this girl, she could...well, either never mind, or use your imagination.

she's quite talented!! she don't need no fork to eat some pork, if ya catch my drift!! ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 12, 2012, 01:30:08 PM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on December 12, 2012, 01:10:31 PM
T minus leet!

I'm giddy with excitement  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on December 12, 2012, 01:44:01 PM
Guys, Aron's gonna turn the forum pink and flowery again with all this sausage party talk. Don't scare off the 3 women left on the forum! ;)

Breadboarded the Small Bear-supplied Tone Bender MkII last night in about 2 minutes. Sounded friggin' wicked off the bat. Gonna box it up with another -9V circuit, any suggestions? I'm thinking a RM Octavia. Seems like that would sound less similar to the TB than a Fuzz Face, for instance.
Harmonic Percolator, coming up soon. Gonna box that up with a Scrambler so they can duke it out with the -9V germs pedal.
Title: leet
Post by: oldschoolanalog on December 12, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
12/12/12
31337 5747(_)5 15 /\/\!/\/3
/\/07 4 (0!/\/(!)3/\/(3
8VV4 #4 #4
Title: Re: leet
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 12, 2012, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: oldschoolanalog on December 12, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
12/12/12
31337 5747(_)5 15 /\/\!/\/3
/\/07 4 (0!/\/(!)3/\/(3
8VV4 #4 #4

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 12, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
^
^^

Why does "leet" keep popping up in different places on the forum?  Glitch?

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/FC948326-1A37-452A-B099-032F47E4367A-2140-000001BD8543C815.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 12, 2012, 05:21:00 PM
The world may never know ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Dave W on December 12, 2012, 05:34:58 PM
"oldschoolanal"???
I really want to make an offhand comment but will not risk banishment.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on December 12, 2012, 05:50:05 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on December 12, 2012, 01:16:49 PM
i know this girl, she could...well, either never mind, or use your imagination.

she's quite talented!! she don't need no fork to eat some pork, if ya catch my drift!! ;)

Why must you bring me back to Tijuana? Why? Took me 25 years to get rid of those greasy lipstick stains, and now you go and bring something like that up!

BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

:icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 12, 2012, 09:06:53 PM
dude...you gotta tell me about that adventure next time we get together!! lol!!! :icon_mrgreen:

she could suck-start a b52 i think... :icon_biggrin: :icon_eek: :icon_evil: :icon_twisted: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Mustachio on December 13, 2012, 12:11:30 AM
Wasn't going to post this but I figured why not. Just a small test using the stereo panning on the xp all with 2 mics 2 amps into a mixer.

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 13, 2012, 12:19:33 AM
Oh man, that was nice :icon_cool:

I had on headphones so it was twice as trippy  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: LucifersTrip on December 17, 2012, 05:44:15 PM
got my stuff today...just wanted to thank Aron for the shirt and offering up that prize...and to everyone for contributing to it.


(http://www.luciferstrip.com/fuzz/turkey-prize.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 17, 2012, 07:23:04 PM
 :icon_eek:  You already jacked on that shirt :icon_mrgreen:

that's alotta jacks     nice :icon_cool:



I was just about to post that I just got the rest of my parts for the FL-301. I threw it together fired it up and both MN  ICs started smoking. :'(
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LOL not really..... After 20 minutes of tweaking the trimpots im very happy with how it sounds   

I'll have audio/video later :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Dave W on December 17, 2012, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on December 17, 2012, 07:23:04 PM
I was just about to post that I just got the rest of my parts for the FL-301. I threw it together fired it up and both MN  ICs started smoking. :'(
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LOL not really..... After 20 minutes of tweaking the trimpots im very happy with how it sounds   
Dude. That's messed up.
Funny.
But messed up.
:icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
BTW; MN's dont smoke. They vaporize...  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 18, 2012, 10:30:45 PM
My prize in action







THANKS GUYS!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: aron on December 18, 2012, 10:53:44 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on December 18, 2012, 11:05:06 PM
Way to go bro, sounds great!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Dave W on December 18, 2012, 11:09:08 PM
Nice.  :icon_cool:
Put a C taper pot in the 301 and you're good to go.
How about putting both of them in a 1590BB?
Next up:  A nice analog delay. Or a phaser. Or...
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 18, 2012, 11:24:58 PM
Quote from: Dave W on December 18, 2012, 11:09:08 PM
Nice.  :icon_cool:
Put a C taper pot in the 301 and you're good to go.
How about putting both of them in a 1590BB?
Next up:  A nice analog delay. Or a phaser. Or...

In the video I said I wasn't using a C taper, but I was mistaken... I am using a C taper, but its just backwards :icon_redface: ;D

I'm working on a maestro phaser at the moment but I have to wait till my next parts order to get 2 LM13700. God, I hate my ordering situation :icon_mad:

At some point I'm going to order a Dirtbag Deluxe pcb from Brian... and use then goofy lookin v3205s  :P
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 19, 2012, 01:57:23 AM
Great job!  Pipeline esta muy bueno, but I'm still waiting for Spirit of the Radio. ;)

BTW, I often have to rewire my pots too. Must be dispotlexia. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 19, 2012, 02:11:42 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on December 19, 2012, 01:57:23 AM
Great job!  Pipeline esta muy bueno, but I'm still waiting for Spirit of the Radio. ;)

BTW, I often have to rewire my pots too. Must be dispotlexia. :)

More often than not I get them backwards. 

I may not seem like it but I LOVE surf rock.


I'll look into spirit of the radio ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 19, 2012, 02:37:23 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on December 19, 2012, 02:11:42 AM

I may not seem like it but I LOVE surf rock.


Surf rock rocks! (or something like that)

Growing up, Dad had a bunch of Venturers albums that I really liked listening to. I guess that was one of the groups that made me want to play guitar. I remember on the "Venturers in Outer Space" album, they used a lot of guitar effects.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ventures_in_Space
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 19, 2012, 03:01:33 AM
Yea, I like guitar centric instrumentals so surf fits that perfect. Not to mention it was the first genre to rock truly hard IMO.

Look at Dick Dale. He is a true ROCKSTAR. People are all head over heels for the Rolling Stones still performing.Pfffft.  Look at this:



This dude owned lions and tigers and is an all around badass



EDIT*  I looked into learning Spirit of the Radio, and I can't play it very easily because of nerve pain in the tip of my finger from when I sliced it off :'(

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on December 19, 2012, 04:09:41 AM
I play Misirlou, too, usually at Middle Eastern or Greek weddings, but more like the original version:



Just in case you ever wondered... Misirlou meant 'girl from Egypt' in the Turkish/Arabic/Greek parlance of the times (Misr is what Egyptians call Egypt), and the melody is just a riff from the pan-Middle Eastern repertoire, but it was made famous by a popular Greek tavern band. It's a song about a Greek guy who lusts after an Egyptian girl. The style of music is called rebetika, or more specifically smyrneika, a style of influenced from the tavern music of the ancient city Smyrni, which is now Izmir, Turkey. It's basically Greek refugees from the population exchange of the 1920s playing folk music heavily influenced by Turkish culture. There's some great songs in the old 1930s rebetika/smyrneika repertoire, real rock n' roll attitude too. Songs with titles like: 'While We Were Smoking Dope One Evening', 'Hitting the Jug and Getting High', and 'Prison Is A School'.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 19, 2012, 04:25:43 AM
Oh man    If you got Mucca Pazza to cover Misirlou I'd freak the frick out :icon_eek:

Thanks for the education. For all I knew Dick Dale wrote that :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 19, 2012, 10:09:02 PM
^^ OK-We'll give you a pass on SOTR. :)

Yeah, Dick Dale is another great surf rocker. I notice he threw a little Malagueña in there. :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on December 19, 2012, 10:17:06 PM
Quote from: garcho on December 19, 2012, 04:09:41 AM
I play Misirlou, too, usually at Middle Eastern or Greek weddings, but more like the original version:



Just in case you ever wondered... Misirlou meant 'girl from Egypt' in the Turkish/Arabic/Greek parlance of the times (Misr is what Egyptians call Egypt), and the melody is just a riff from the pan-Middle Eastern repertoire, but it was made famous by a popular Greek tavern band. It's a song about a Greek guy who lusts after an Egyptian girl. The style of music is called rebetika, or more specifically smyrneika, a style of influenced from the tavern music of the ancient city Smyrni, which is now Izmir, Turkey. It's basically Greek refugees from the population exchange of the 1920s playing folk music heavily influenced by Turkish culture. There's some great songs in the old 1930s rebetika/smyrneika repertoire, real rock n' roll attitude too. Songs with titles like: 'While We Were Smoking Dope One Evening', 'Hitting the Jug and Getting High', and 'Prison Is A School'.

Yeah... Greeks... the original badasses.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: wavley on December 20, 2012, 12:00:21 PM
I've seen Dick Dale sooo many times, that guy is a bad ass.  Surf rock was my first true love (other than The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly soundtrack) it's why I play a Jaguar being that it is such a great surf rock guitar.

My favorite story about Dick Dale is about one of the times I saw him when I lived in Tampa and there was this girl there that looked to be some relation to Mr. Dale behind the stage, had to be in her twenties.  I thought, geez, is that Dick Dale's daughter?  How awesome would it be to have Dick Dale as a father in law?  I then realized when he invited his 4 year old son up on stage to play drums, that it was not, in fact, his daughter but his wife.  Even though my dreams of having Dick Dale as father in law were smashed, those feelings were replaced with admiration for this guy in his 60's that could snag a gorgeous young wife and tote around 4 year old that could keep up with him on drums (something that most full grown men can't do)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: wavley on December 20, 2012, 12:05:49 PM
Oh yeah, also the time that I saw him at the legendary Hampton punk club the N-Sect club (I grew up in Norfolk) and I was talking to him after the show and he took me around to the back of his amps to show me that they were Showmans number 001 and 002!  Dude was still touring with the amps that Leo build specifically for him!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 20, 2012, 04:35:34 PM
i love dick, he's awesome. you can write him.... and probably get a reply, if ya send it to dick.

at dickdaleDOTcom, if ya catch my drift.

;)

he is viciously cool, and one of the all-time best . period.

anywho, that said....


Ronan/ian, the sterno face launched today...sorry it took so bloody long. but it should be there sometime in the next 2 weeks or so, hopefully!

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Ronan on December 20, 2012, 09:15:26 PM
Cool, thanks mate, fantastic! Good things are worth waiting for, a nice surprise for the new year! ;D
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on December 21, 2012, 01:33:05 AM
Sterno face sounds like some weird internet meme. I love it!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 21, 2012, 01:52:34 AM
It sounds to me like what you'd call a desperate wino.  ::)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 21, 2012, 03:36:14 PM
it's named for my brotha from anotha motha, bob stern who i designed it for. he was looking for a fuzz with a bit of a treble boost to it, something to make his solo's cut thru a mix.

basically, he wanted to sound like me... i'm a fuzzface guy, but i wanted it to be something with the tone, but temperature stable..so it's a hybrid.

ian...there's three trannys inside it. as shipped is how i like it. q2 is paralleled transistors. any of the three can be interchanged, or you can run just two, whatever sounds best to you. i was looking for more gain, and lummoxed across the idea of paralleling a fet and a bipolar for q1. it sounds "different"  with both...kinda hard to put my finger on. but mess around, see what works best for ya bro!
please let me know when it arrives.

oh yah, also listed it on the customs form as a gift, so hopefully there's no tarriffs or baloney attached.

rock on!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on December 21, 2012, 05:53:28 PM
Quoteoh yah, also listed it on the customs form as a gift, so hopefully there's no tarriffs or baloney attached.

Wow, something marked as a gift, that's actually a gift. Who knew?
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 21, 2012, 06:29:29 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on December 21, 2012, 03:36:14 PM
it's named for my brotha from anotha motha, bob stern who i designed it for. he was looking for a fuzz with a bit of a treble boost to it, something to make his solo's cut thru a mix.

basically, he wanted to sound like me... i'm a fuzzface guy, but i wanted it to be something with the tone, but temperature stable..so it's a hybrid.

ian...there's three trannys inside it. as shipped is how i like it. q2 is paralleled transistors. any of the three can be interchanged, or you can run just two, whatever sounds best to you. i was looking for more gain, and lummoxed across the idea of paralleling a fet and a bipolar for q1. it sounds "different"  with both...kinda hard to put my finger on. but mess around, see what works best for ya bro!
please let me know when it arrives.

oh yah, also listed it on the customs form as a gift, so hopefully there's no tarriffs or baloney attached.

rock on!

Aha... When I see "sterno" I think of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterno

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 21, 2012, 07:29:49 PM
hic!!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFalUgC4qXCJPvOgXgd6agKyaukwNTBlgyfmaMInO0xikIoYbo)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: digi2t on December 21, 2012, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on December 21, 2012, 07:29:49 PM
hic!!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFalUgC4qXCJPvOgXgd6agKyaukwNTBlgyfmaMInO0xikIoYbo)

Now THAT'S what I call "Spreadin' the Christmas Cheer!"  :icon_lol:

Love the mother covering up the kids eyes. Santa must be packing one hell of a "Sterno"! Too funny!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 21, 2012, 09:52:29 PM
Welcome to the "South Pole"... :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 21, 2012, 09:53:47 PM
i wonder what he hung the mistletoe from ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 21, 2012, 10:12:45 PM
Jingle balls





Sorry, I'll leave and never come back  :icon_redface: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 21, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
Ole saint di*k
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on December 21, 2012, 10:24:41 PM
So, has every winner received their prize then? (besides D'Astro's wiener) Pretty good turn around time, I'd say, no? Wink wink, nudge nudge, post-apocalypse, etc.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 21, 2012, 10:38:11 PM
ronan's fuzz is in transit.
but i think everything else is already a done deal.

i saw the 1000 comp is STILL waiting. wow. i thought I was a wicked procrastinator!

i'm staying out of that wicket.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 21, 2012, 10:58:39 PM
Do I have to be the one to say it?  I feel like the whole thing was a sham  :-\




I'm not trying to start some mess, but if it looks like one, smells like one, and sounds like one........    


Ok, I'm ready to be lynched now.

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 21, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
(http://www.sjpba.net/FotoGalImages/hartmurd/HANGINGW.jpg)

no comment. i like my neck the way it is
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: garcho on December 22, 2012, 12:06:22 AM
People bite off more than they can chew all the time. Don't be too suspicious. I'm sure Rick's pedal will be killer.
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: haveyouseenhim on December 22, 2012, 12:23:38 AM
Yea, I suppose.    I want to be wrong
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 22, 2012, 01:44:54 AM
I've asked Jacob to hold off on shipping my boards until he has Jon's Blue Warbler in production. No sense in making two shipments and, I won't be able to build anything until after the new year anyway. I'm finishing up another one of his boards I bought a while back called the Scuba Muff. It's a really versatile fuzz and I'm building it for my brother in law for Christmas. It's going to have pictures of his two kids on it and the switch that selects between low and high caps is going to be labeled with their names. When you flick the switch to "Audrey" her eyes will light up, and the same for "Evan".
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Vallhagen on December 22, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
Hey folks:)

Ive been contacted by madbean for my prize:) ... He just wait for my orders, which i will place anytime soon, when i have decided what i want for stuff. I have been really busy lately with things very far from boxbuilding... not only me, this time of year i guess. Among other things, i will go on with a new job in the beginning of january.

Yesterday the TEEEshirt arrived though. Thanx Aron!

Cheers all! And a merry n happy and everything xmas to you all as well!

Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: pinkjimiphoton on December 22, 2012, 01:02:04 PM
i gotta say, one more time, howsabout a nice round of cyberapplause for all the people involved.
this was a cool competition, just amazing. it was an honor to be involved.

the scores were so close, i mean SOOOOO OOOOO OOOOO close if it wasn't for me subdividing percentages, judging would have been impossible.

i know most of the scores we gave you guys were a lot higher than i think you expected.... and them .40's and .75's etc are what ended up defining it in some cases...
i mean...you guys were all within a nose of each other. if memory serves, less than 15 points between #1 and #8. that's not much of a spread!!

you guys ROCK. period. and i am honored to know each of you. ;)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 22, 2012, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: Vallhagen on December 22, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
Hey folks:)

Ive been contacted by madbean for my prize:) ... He just wait for my orders, which i will place anytime soon, when i have decided what i want for stuff. I have been really busy lately with things very far from boxbuilding... not only me, this time of year i guess. Among other things, i will go on with a new job in the beginning of january.

Yesterday the TEEEshirt arrived though. Thanx Aron!

Cheers all! And a merry n happy and everything xmas to you all as well!



Congratulations and best wishes for your new job!  May you and your family have a safe and joyous Christmas!
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on December 22, 2012, 01:46:31 PM
Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on December 22, 2012, 01:02:04 PM
i gotta say, one more time, howsabout a nice round of cyberapplause for all the people involved.
this was a cool competition, just amazing. it was an honor to be involved.

the scores were so close, i mean SOOOOO OOOOO OOOOO close if it wasn't for me subdividing percentages, judging would have been impossible.

i know most of the scores we gave you guys were a lot higher than i think you expected.... and them .40's and .75's etc are what ended up defining it in some cases...
i mean...you guys were all within a nose of each other. if memory serves, less than 15 points between #1 and #8. that's not much of a spread!!

you guys ROCK. period. and i am honored to know each of you. ;)

And a round of cyberplause for the judges and prize donors!  This is young to be a tough act to follow!  :)
Title: Re: Turkey Day SHOOTOUT Competition
Post by: Jdansti on March 26, 2013, 11:10:34 PM
Quote from: Jdansti on December 22, 2012, 01:44:54 AM
I've asked Jacob to hold off on shipping my boards until he has Jon's Blue Warbler in production. No sense in making two shipments and, I won't be able to build anything until after the new year anyway. I'm finishing up another one of his boards I bought a while back called the Scuba Muff. It's a really versatile fuzz and I'm building it for my brother in law for Christmas. It's going to have pictures of his two kids on it and the switch that selects between low and high caps is going to be labeled with their names. When you flick the switch to "Audrey" her eyes will light up, and the same for "Evan".


Well, it was like Christmas for me today!  I had won three boards from Jacob at JMK Pedals and had asked him to hold the shipment until he had Jon Patton's Blue Warbler board ready. As it turns out, the Blue Warbler is taking a little longer get into production than Jacob expected, so I revised my request. Jacob was nice enough to include a Blue Warbler prototype along with the three boards I ordered!

Below, you'll see the following four boards:

Blue Warbler
Taptation
Delay (designed for the Taptation)
Wakizashi Boost

I'm looking forward to throwing some parts on these puppies as soon as I finish my remodeling work and get the go ahead from the boss. ;)


The boards backed by the boss's boots.

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/40E3136B-DE5B-4294-84C9-71350D851A42-491-0000002D896DC598.jpg)

<<<Delay>>>
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/C9BC7A1D-3816-4094-B475-A4E48DA48DB9-491-0000002DA51E275E.jpg)

<<<Taptation>>>
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/10659082-13C2-41C8-8146-AAD9D8D4AE4D-491-0000002DE511F714.jpg)

<<<Wakizashi Boost>>>
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/39856AA3-22D0-4DE8-8E7A-C8C8CB93523C-491-0000002DBDF1D743.jpg)

<<<Blue Warbler>>>
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q485/jdansti/54AB06B9-4901-4657-AC03-E85ACB9567FE-491-0000002DD35D2DB1.jpg)

Thanks again to Jacob and all of the folks who sponsored the prizes!!!