vibe'o'wah heaven

Started by Branimir, October 03, 2004, 01:58:45 PM

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Branimir

greets everyone!

now i've been messing around with my crybaby and my easyvibe and finally gave it a shot at trying to hook these two things together and turn 'em on both...

so the chain is:

guitar + easyvibe (depth all the way, speed at half) + wah + HiOctane...

now this thing gives me the chills...

it's so cool sounding that i never even consider turning on a wah unit without the vibe infront... :D

i've uploaded a soundsample of it
(settings in o'clock)
it's a strat like guitar with a seymour duncan JB in bridge (recorded on that pickup) + easyvibe + wah + HiOctane (gain1: 3o'clock, gain2:all the way, bass:2, mid:11, treble:1, vol:12) + Shure PG58 into mic input on the onboard soundcard (abit ic7g mainboard) + a bit of echo in cooledit.

vibe'o'wah - 2.8 MB - 3m 04s

unfortunatly i can hear the lfo's clock ticking in the background, i still don't know how to fix it... (it's audible in the first few seconds of the recording)
Umor

Built: Fuzz Face, Small Stone, Trem Lune, Fet Muff, Big Muff (green), Fuxx Face, Son of Screamer, Rat, Rebote 2.5, Opamp Big Muff, EA Tremolo, Easyvibe, Axis Face Si

jimbob

Your right--sounds VERY cool to me! Im going to have to try that sometime!

thanks for the sample.
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Branimir

no prob!

wah has a linear pot instead of the original hot potz, i'll get a replacement soon - so the sweep would be better...

for a more pronounced mayhem i suggest a pedal before! the vibe, with a just a bit of drive - enough to distort just a a bit before the rest of the chain...

i remember getting more 'vibe' out of the easyvibe like that...

hm...
gotta hook up it tommorow like that and check it out...

cheers!
Umor

Built: Fuzz Face, Small Stone, Trem Lune, Fet Muff, Big Muff (green), Fuxx Face, Son of Screamer, Rat, Rebote 2.5, Opamp Big Muff, EA Tremolo, Easyvibe, Axis Face Si

Mark Hammer

I've gotten that sound, and I like it every bit as much as you do.

I don't know how many distortions you've stuck after a wah in your lifetime, but in my experience some respond MUCH better than others, very much the same way some distortions respond very nicely to tone adjustments on your guitar and others couldn't care less where you set the tone control.  You don't get a pronounced "wah" in that effects-order, but you get something which produces almost a shift in emotional emphasis, not unlike what happens when you switch pickups from neck to bridge.

I wish I knew how to identify them up front or what it was that could be changed to make a distortion more responsive to a wah in that way.

And yes, phaser or univibe BEFORE a distortion sounds much different than phaser/univibe after.  The reason is that the notches inserted before the clipping device will "pull down" the signal level where the notches are and reduce the amount of harmonic content added.  Of course, since the band where that harmonic content occurs may be precisely where the higher order harmonic content of other unaffected notes falls, the effect is NOT the same as simply filtering out everything in that band (which is what would happen if you stick a phaser AFTER a fuzz).

The result is that the extra harmonic content is altered in a much more diffuse and pleasing way.  It sounds more "animated" than filtered.  Of course sticking the wah between the Univibe and distortion simply extends that phenomenon by having one source of preclip filtering (let's call it "harmonic biasing" in the sense that it biases how the harmonic content will ultimately be distributed) that is periodic (swept by an LFO) and another that is aperiodic (swept by foot)