3PDT on/on switch and Weird Input Output jacks

Started by 9V, May 22, 2004, 06:17:04 PM

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9V

is there something like this?

i bought it for my mxr+ distortion project

the guys at the store said they did not have them foot swtiches
so i was recommanded the reddish and small 9 holed with on/on switches...

on the metal side it's labled 2A 250VAC 5A 120VAC and labeled On On...

will this work?

also the i got this weird black mini-boxed input output jacks today, and the mono had the two horns and the stero had only one, and on the mono one there were five rings on it, and stero with only three. what's the deal with this? and how does it work?

and they sold me 0.1uf but i friggin needed the 0.01uf on the MXR+..
will it still work? cos the place i bought it from is real far from where i live, i can't go back nor get them refunds....
i haven't given up just yet!

u1061810

Is the 3PDT a toggle switch, or something else? It should work the same as a 3PDT stomp switch would.I have seen 3PDT on/on toggles before.
 Are you sure about the jacks? It sounds like you may have them mixed up.I've only seen the input jack with the tip and sleeve horns as you said, and the output jack with just one horn. Unless they're for some other application.

9V

http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/audioprb.gif

that's the jack in/out put i am talking about, but the connecting metal ring hole space is slightly different, they have this thin line coming out...and inside and upper side is just crazy and so weird, maybe the store owner mixed them up...i can't believe it...

and how do i connect the IC and IC socket together?, Ic's are so hard to put it on the socket of the IC socket, is there correct ways of putting them togehter? i know the tiny upper middle round scooped part is top going 1 to 8 connect....

3DPT i have is a on/on switch, ain't it weird(i thought it was only on/off)? just flipping it, not stomping, and it has the same 9 connections for the mxr distortion...it's just it's saying on and on, so..it's just so weird...

thanks
i haven't given up just yet!

u1061810

With the ICs just make sure the mark( Scoop mark as you said ) on the IC and the mark on the socket are on the same side.  The socket also usually has a tiny one on it designating the #1 pin.
 I've used those jacks before, they're fine.

u1061810

BTW, I can't see that size cap working/sounding right in that circuit IMHO.(someone with more knowledge please chime in)
 If you're having trouble getting the right parts I'd recommend http://www.smallbearelec.com/ He's got the right parts for the job.

9V

so you think the 0.1uf won't work, in any way possible ? dang it.....


anyways the IC socket upper scoop (ring) and IC upper scoop (ring) should match when going in? but the IC socket upper rings states that it is "8" instead of "1". now what do i do? just reverse it? Ic socket (ring) down and IC (ring) facing up?

and the jacks... i think the store workers @#$%ed up the mono and stero labels, and if it works? how does it work? wheres the ring tip sleeve? these things have 5 rings with 2 horns (supposedly on a MONO) and 3 rings with 1 horn (supposedly on Stereo)...

and i guess the 3PDT on/on switch won't work anyways...

oh btw if i erased the pcb board pencil mark, and making a big smudge mess, would it still be alright when etched?

help me please

thank you
i haven't given up just yet!

u1061810

See the cut out on the far left hand side of this socket.(Half circle) This mark has to line up directly underneath the cut-out on the IC when it's placed on the board.
 The IC should have a small circle on it marking the #1 pin.
  Plug your guitar cord into the jack and set your meter to Ohms to find out which ring connects to the sleeve(side) and tip (end) of the plug.
 On the input jack(with the two horns)the tip carries the guitar signal to the switch,and the sleeve and ring are grounds.On the output jack(one horn)the tip carries the guitar signal out of the box and the ring is ground.
 From my understanding the larger the cap value the more bass response.That cap is quite a bit larger than what the effet calls for,so it might work but will be bassy sounding.I'm not really sure .I'd try to get the right cap value though.

 What schematic are you using?
  Sorry I'm not familiar with etching.

9V

thanks for replying

my schematic is from the general guitar gadets website, the MXR distortion +,

The IC socket i have is lable

etching is easier i guess, because the site offers the whole layout, i can just look for the right wiring, the drawing however is painful.

i don't have that machine of that sort to test out the sleeve ring tip

and the jacks are way different i should try the normal jacks that i am familiar with,

so more bass eh? it might sound like big muff pi i hope hehe[/img]
i haven't given up just yet!

u1061810

All you need to do that test is to get a simple Ohm meter, that you can find at most any Wal-mart , hardware store, or for sale at ebay.
They test if you have a connection from one point to another and are a must if you're building electronic gadgets.

lightningfingers

i have a dist+, and i think 0.1uf sounds better than the stock value. its bassier, and more crunchy but its not like its a huge difference.

hope that helps
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9V

thanks guys for them replys

i'll build it  (still i wish it said "1" on the IC socket, instead of "8", making me confused...heh)

ohm meter? sounds good, hmmmm they said also i would need the digital, somthing tester for....maybe that is ohm meter? hmmmm..

i guess i'll have to stick with the 0.1uf !

and also the jacks are still confusing.. but i will take the normal lookin' ones from my dead distortion pedal...

oh btw, can i bend the sharp legs of ic socket, to make it in the hole for soldering???
i haven't given up just yet!

lightningfingers

yeah, bend the socket legs if it helps, i do, i always have done and never broke a socket.

about the ohm meter, i would buy a digital multi meter, theyre not expensive and will measure many things (not to sound negative but if your dist+ doesnt work after wiring it up you post pin voltages and people here will then be able to help you very quickly)

them jacks you have there sound like pcb mounted jacks, they will work fine if you figure them out.

[quote+"9V"]my dead distortion pedal[/quote]

BTW what distortion pedal is that?
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9V

ha ha... it's an ELECTRA DISTORTION, it is impossible to build i have PCboard version and a Perfboard version, and neither works, i tried about 5 different ways of wiring, and alot of ways to figure out output, where to put 100K, and more components....but no luck...

i wish they put some kind of instructions for them black boxed jacks i have..

oh yes, what kind of drill head would i use for the IC socket??to put it in the PCboard...? and if so how much?

thank you
i haven't given up just yet!

lightningfingers

oh i would take the jacks off the electra then-i built an electra for one of my first projects, i think it sounds crappy.

first of all do you have a layout for the PCBoard or did you make your own layout?

use any kind of drill head but its got to be ~1mm
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