Anyone know any good "talking" pedals?

Started by sir_modulus, June 15, 2004, 11:28:07 PM

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sir_modulus

I'm looking for a pedal like the EH talking pedal(can't seem to find the schem for it (+ the tapers in the pots in that pedal are  :shock: )). I just want a pedal, that knida sounds like weird synth speech (Bassballs is an example, but not a really simple circuit). This can ba auto of manual (like a stompbox, or pedal) Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

sir_modulus

If possible, could it be a somewhat simple schematic?

Hal

isnt the bassballs an autowah - ie envelope filter?

That would make a talking sound.

Lonestarjohnny

What you need a pedal for, you ever see Gatemouth do his fake Guitar or Fake Fiddle talk before, crack's me up evertime I've run sound for him,
his nephew is a very good friend of mine, Mr Curly May's, he does this Fake Guitar talk also, and when he was playing behind Etta May's he would come out and play Barefoot on the guitar, I have a film of him doin it and he did perform this 2 year's ago at my Birthday party, I wish you could see these guy's do this, you be like me, tryin like crazy to learn how to do this. LOL !
JD

R.G.

QuoteI just want a pedal, that knida sounds like weird synth speech
See the discussion on the Ludwig synth earlier in this forum, and in "The Technology of Wah Pedals" at GEO.

It takes a minimum of two bandpass filters to make a vowel synthesizer.  See http://geofex.com/Article_Folders/sing-wah/sing-wah.htm for some techie info on how to synthesize vowels. The problem with making it move from vowel to vowel is that as F2 moves up, F1 has to move first up then down. That's what makes the pots funny on the EH Talking Pedal.

I've come up with a two-filter thing that makes vowel tones using two LM13700 dual OTAs for the filter and a clot of circuitry to make the control voltages move around right, but it's still not ready for prime time.

Meanwhile, you could get a vowel out of two fixed-setting wahs.
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

puretube

I`ll keep on staying out of the OTA discussion... :wink:  :)

zachary vex

Quote from: R.G.
QuoteI just want a pedal, that knida sounds like weird synth speech
...I've come up with a two-filter thing that makes vowel tones using two LM13700 dual OTAs for the filter and a clot of circuitry to make the control voltages move around right, but it's still not ready for prime time...

does it look like this?  i built this last year... it makes 10 two-formant vowels and randomly speaks them when triggered by a pick strike.  too big to put in a pedal for now, but i'm considering surface-mount.


puretube

nice thing there, sir!
is it going to run on battery?
8)

zachary vex

it only draws a few mA, so sure, it could easily run on a battery.  i have no plans to release it at this time... it's way back in the queue (at least 10 other effects are ahead of it).

sir_modulus

Now that, my friend, would be impossible for me to build (I have no concentration to put that much on breadboard, as it is my worst enemy)

sir_modulus

Now that, my friend, would be impossible for me to build (I have no concentration to put that much on breadboard, as it is my worst enemy)

R.G.

Quotedoes it look like this?
It's probably close to the filter board on the left. I think I used different color wires. 8-)
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

zachary vex

the filterboards are the top two boards.  it's 3080-based.  two formants.  the lower board is the resistor set for selecting the vowels.  the left board is the trigger/random selector board.

zachary vex

Quote from: sir_modulusNow that, my friend, would be impossible for me to build (I have no concentration to put that much on breadboard, as it is my worst enemy)

you'd be surprised.  you start putting things together and it gets addicting.after a bit you've got 500 components and wires plugged in...  and it's 6 am.

Bill Bergman