ZODIAC FUZZ + ENVELOPE FILTER

Started by deadastronaut, December 18, 2012, 06:57:39 AM

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deadastronaut

Ok seeing as its nearly xmas..and i know your always hungry for something a bit different..you greedy little piggies...... ;D

i didn't fancy just building a tiny 2 tranny fuzz into a box, there's just too much room in there to fill up, and i'm greedy too.....

so i added an envelope filter too...

this all started as the 'fuzz faeces'' where i really liked the brassy-synthy off bias sound. (steve hillage-esque)

heres the schematic for the ZODIAC FUZZ,

basically its a heavily breadboarded/ modded + stripped down  Q-tripper and a tweaked fuzz face (faeces)...(this version anyway..) i have another version on the go at the mo which uses a modified phuncgnosis (tim escobedo)
but has the proper up/down sweep now. (whch uses readily available common parts)...schemo soon ok. ;)..ive breadboarded almost every bloody EF out there..some good, some not so... ::)

heres the (out of sync, thanks youtube ::)) vid/sound of it..


i highly recommend breadboarding this, and it must use 2sk30a fets...at least on Q2 anyway..i tried others to no avail...the intensity/release could probably do with a tweak if anyone has any ideas on this i'd be grateful and i'll instantly try it
as its still on breadboard at the mo... ;)

if you get clever with the switching you could have fuzz/fuzz envelope/ envelope.. ;)...you could have this as 2 footswitches too. (ideal really) ;)

anyway...try it out, you won't regret it....i'm not really a fuzz fan, but i really like this, the pre-gain allows subtlety to full on, and the bias gives a brassy-synthy tone, (watch the volume when on brassy tone..turn it down)

i did remedy the volume difference btween fuzz-brassy, with diodes after the 100nf, but then it messed with the brassy sound too....so i left those out.

i got rid of the 1k fuzz control as it did sweet F A imo... :icon_twisted:..and the pre-gain is way better...

i put a 10nf on the fuzz input as the recommended 2.2uf was way to soft imo...no definition etc...on the original idea i switched between the 2.2uf/10nf...so you might want to consider that in your build...up to you really.

just a note: thanks to larry aka rutagaba bob for egging me on to get this moving.. ;)

as always mod suggestions always welcome as i haven't a clue what i'm doing...but i enjoy tinkering.. ;D






ZODIAC FUZZ II soon....enjoy+merry xmas.


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deadastronaut

#1
and here is the ZODIAC II + envelope filter.

this is based on the modded phuncgnosis+ fuzz faeces.  its the exact same fuzz, but this time the  envelope filter uses very common parts. ;)





now get your breadboard out and rip the ass out of it... :icon_twisted:
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Perrow

Hey, I think I have everything for V2 (everything but time, will try to build an amp before x-mas). Looks interesting, haven't listened to the demo yet but I will.
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~arph

impressive!  could use a little delay and reverb on the vid though.. it's a bit dry now.  ;D

bluebunny

Cool.

- and -

Cool II.  ;)

I wonder what I might be building after Christmas? ...
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midwayfair

Very nice, Rob! Fuzz does sound especially good with a little bit of filter on it. Nice clean an ultimately simple circuit in both, too.
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deadastronaut

Quote from: ~arph on December 18, 2012, 10:37:36 AM
impressive!  could use a little delay and reverb on the vid though.. it's a bit dry now.  ;D

hmmm yeah i'll have to add a little more.. :icon_wink:  (i had the delay on my mixer (sub) up...i  didnt monitor it like that...and couldn't be arsed to redo it all.. :)


cheers guys, have fun...

like i say though, the intensity/release could do with a tinker on the  Z 1.... :icon_idea:'s
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Quote from: deadastronaut on December 18, 2012, 01:03:29 PM
like i say though, the intensity/release could do with a tinker on the  Z 1.... :icon_idea:'s

What do you want to change about it?
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deadastronaut

#9
^ well it does work fine as it is, but it could do with a better response for short/long release time imo...

ive tried various remedies but i end up with pretty much the same result...i'll have a bit more of a tinker around C8/R12..and the pot value too..cheers jon.


oh yes i forgot to say: mod for Z 1  ..where it says 'filter out point'', put a spdt there :icon_idea:..might need a resistor on the out switch for unity though ok..

but then you'l have  fuzz/fuzz envelope/ envelope...3 in 1.  8)

edit: just tried the filter out no fuzz..no need for a resistor, unity is fine..just whack a switch on there...sorted. 8)

heres a quick filter only clip...definately worth adding that switch.. 8)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/zodiac%20v1%20clean%20filter%20test1.mp3
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As I watched your video, the sky above my place ripped open and a dragon made of pure electricity spewed forth.
Epic sound dude, epic.

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Quote from: Devius on December 18, 2012, 10:08:20 PM
As I watched your video, the sky above my place ripped open and a dragon made of pure electricity spewed forth.
Epic sound dude, epic.

Good, so it wasn't just me :icon_eek:
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Jdansti

Awesome stuff!  Thanks for posting this!  Bookmarked for future build. :)
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deadastronaut

Quote from: Devius on December 18, 2012, 10:08:20 PM
As I watched your video, the sky above my place ripped open and a dragon made of pure electricity spewed forth.
Epic sound dude, epic.

   \m/   :icon_twisted:  \m/


i just made a layout for the Z1, (1590b fit)  with the switching for fuzz/fuzz+envelope/envelope..

i'll check it over tomorrow and if it looks good i'll post it up ok...i'm off to bed now...knackered!..  nite nite.. :)
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Quote from: deadastronaut on December 18, 2012, 10:33:21 PM
Quote from: Devius on December 18, 2012, 10:08:20 PM
As I watched your video, the sky above my place ripped open and a dragon made of pure electricity spewed forth.
Epic sound dude, epic.

   \m/   :icon_twisted:  \m/


i just made a layout for the Z1, (1590b fit)  with the switching for fuzz/fuzz+envelope/envelope..

i'll check it over tomorrow and if it looks good i'll post it up ok...i'm off to bed now...knackered!..  nite nite.. :)

Can't wait :)
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deadastronaut

#15
ok, here ya go,  ive looked it over and looks ok to me...  (1590b size) 8)

ZODIAC FUZZ I:

layout pdf
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/ZODIACFUZZV1.pdf

pcb pdf

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/ZODIACFUZZPCB1.pdf

the BOM list  on Z I just wouldn't appear for some strange reason. ???.but  ive added the ic/Q's on text ok, ....i won't have time to verify it till after xmas, so if you give it a go give us a report. ;)

...


ZODIAC FUZZ II files :  an easier , more common components version. as above i haven't time to verify till afterxmas ok....if you do please report. ;)

ZII PDF
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/ZODIACFUZZII.pdf

ZII PCB PDF
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/ZODIACFUZZ%20II%20PCB.pdf

have fun. cheers rob. :)

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Thanks for this, great clips, great playing and great sound. At one point I inadvertantly had the original youtube vid AND the dropbox filter-only mp3 playing simultaneously, resulting in some seriously psychedelic spacejazz madness - Wonderful.
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deadastronaut

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due to a request from a blind dude i made the schematic's bigger... ;D ;)
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