Author Topic: X FUZZ  (Read 147873 times)

Elijah-Baley

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #380 on: March 16, 2017, 10:12:35 AM »
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Here's my corrected layout:



Finally I'm building this.
I have some question. I probably gonna use a 125B box, so none switches.
But, for an eventually next time I would to know what those switch do.
I got this:
- First switch to choose the input cap 4.7nF or 10nF;
- Second switch to choose the coupling cap 470nF or 1uF;
- Third switch to choose the clipping sections, Yellow Led or Red Led;
- Fourth Switch to choose the output stage. To do what? ???

Thank you! :)
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anotherjim

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #381 on: March 16, 2017, 10:57:14 AM »
One of the output options adds an alternative buffer circuit after the tone control. The 2N5088 is the original type (like the last stage of a Big Muff), the JFET one is a Mu-amp type. The original would be the "clearest" sounding I would think, while the Mu-amp should add some of it's own thing.
The board layout you have doesn't have the Mu-amp option, so you don't have a use for that last switch anyway. The layout should hard-wire the original buffer in for you.


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Elijah-Baley

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #382 on: March 16, 2017, 11:39:14 AM »
Thank you, anotherjim!
The original layout is ok. :P
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Elijah-Baley

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #383 on: March 17, 2017, 01:38:37 PM »
Finished the X-Fuzz on protoboard layout. Now I have to start the debugging. :P
I got very low volume and just a compressed sound with a bad slight distortion.
The leds don't light up. Hard to say if the pots work well, maybe yes. And the transistors voltages are weird:

Q1
C: 2.42
B: 0.62
E: 0.00

Q2
C: 0.01
B: 0.56
E: 0.00

Q3
C: 8.19
B: 4.06
E: 3.48

Q4
C: 5.67
B: 1.25-0.90 (oscillating)
E: 0.30-0.70 (oscillating)

First time on protoboard. It is a bit difficult! :o
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anotherjim

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #384 on: March 18, 2017, 03:20:02 PM »
Q2 connector might not be connecting where it should.
Output oscillating might be feedback from Q4 to Q3 because Q2 isn't connection.
On proto boards, make sure the bus strips for power & ground are actually connected. They are often in isolated sections.  They needed linking if you need more than one section.
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Elijah-Baley

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #385 on: March 18, 2017, 05:05:21 PM »
Thanks a lot, anotherjim. ;)
I checked the circuit a a couple of times, and today I found a missing connection between R4 and C6. I gonna fix it tomorrow. Wish me good luck.
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Elijah-Baley

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #386 on: March 19, 2017, 10:36:10 AM »
Done. Not it works! I was expecting a bit of more gain. I'm going to search the old demo in this topic.
Does someone have some demo of this 5-pot version, or at least one close enough to that proto board layout? Thanks.
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Elijah-Baley

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #387 on: March 20, 2017, 04:39:53 AM »
I loved the deadastronaut's videos and finally I built the X-Fuzz, that one with 5 pots, but I don't get that gainy, doomy, extreme and sinthy fuzz of the videos. It is versatile, but it is a pretty regular fuzz. ???

The cap between first and second stage is 1uF (C4 in the proto board layout), should I change it with a 470nf to get that sick synthy sounds? Is really that cap the key?

Thanks! :)
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Chrisfromiowa

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #388 on: February 22, 2018, 01:03:22 PM »
[...]

Here's my corrected layout:



Finally I'm building this.
I have some question. I probably gonna use a 125B box, so none switches.
But, for an eventually next time I would to know what those switch do.
I got this:
- First switch to choose the input cap 4.7nF or 10nF;
- Second switch to choose the coupling cap 470nF or 1uF;
- Third switch to choose the clipping sections, Yellow Led or Red Led;
- Fourth Switch to choose the output stage. To do what? ???

Thank you! :)

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Esppse

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #389 on: February 09, 2019, 05:14:12 PM »
Hello, I've just built the Vero on tagboardeffects. Unfortunately it sounds nothing like the demo, it sounds like an overdrive, no fuzz texture. I've been reading this thread, above there is a 4 transistor version, are they supposed to be totally different sounding? I'm trying to chase the tone from the video demo.

Thanks

Domin

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #390 on: August 22, 2020, 06:47:31 AM »
I made one from this layout and all i have is just some clean sound, dontknow what could be wrong...


deadastronaut

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #391 on: August 22, 2020, 07:14:24 AM »
thats not my layout....check you leds are in opposite directions..

the 1uf should be a non polar........not electro.

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Domin

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #392 on: August 22, 2020, 12:05:03 PM »
Hmmm but even if its not your layout, it should work I think...and can you send schematic to first verzion of X Fuzz?

deadastronaut

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #393 on: August 22, 2020, 12:29:00 PM »
yeah was just saying its not my layout, so im not held responsible for it not working..... ;)

here you go.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ybl9lvdz7ljcque/xfuzz.jpg?dl=0
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Domin

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #394 on: August 22, 2020, 12:35:49 PM »
Thanks! Im comparing layout and schematic and they look same...I put same resistors and I have 9,4V battery and on both collectors I have 9,2V and no sound comming from it

deadastronaut

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #395 on: August 22, 2020, 12:38:47 PM »
are your leds lighting up?...when playing?
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Domin

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #396 on: August 22, 2020, 12:56:53 PM »
No, they arent, if you want I can send you photo of PCB

bluebunny

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #397 on: August 22, 2020, 12:57:45 PM »
If both your collectors are pretty much the same as your power rail, then there's nowhere for your signal to "wiggle".  So I'm surprised you hear anything at all!  Can you show us some pictures of what you've built?

Edit: simul-post!  Pictures: yes please.  Both sides.
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deadastronaut

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #398 on: August 22, 2020, 12:58:58 PM »
^ yup.... pics please... 8)
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Domin

Re: X FUZZ
« Reply #399 on: August 22, 2020, 01:04:18 PM »







Maybe I really made mistake somewhere, I dont know :( But same problem I had with SMD version of DAM Meathead, I had 9V on Q2 collector too, but when I made THT version it was ok...