Author Topic: Power Supply Filter Anatomy  (Read 22425 times)

anotherjim

Re: Power Supply Filter Anatomy
« Reply #100 on: September 07, 2017, 01:23:16 PM »
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Smells nicer than carbon film too.
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Kipper4

Re: Power Supply Filter Anatomy
« Reply #101 on: September 07, 2017, 01:41:35 PM »



This should be fine. Maybe change r13 r14 to something 10x smaller, depending on your application.

Thats similar to what I use all the time.

In a real situation like prolonged reverse polarity to the point something in the circuit burns It would likely be cheaper to replace the entire pcb than start fiddling with the power supply bits.
I know cause one of the first pedals i boxed. Son of screamer got burnt when I gave it to an experienced gigging guitarist who fed it the power supply for a line 6 box.
Gulp.
lesson learned. Put a diagram on the front of the box or at the dc jack. Include documentation warning about expected power supply use. and failure to adhere to this.
It's not idiot proof but it's a disclaimer that makes the user think.
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Cozybuilder

Re: Power Supply Filter Anatomy
« Reply #102 on: September 08, 2017, 01:33:13 AM »
Now move R11 to the other side of D3 so you don't add the current from the LED to the Schottky.
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antonis

Re: Power Supply Filter Anatomy
« Reply #103 on: September 08, 2017, 04:46:40 AM »
You know Cozy, LEDs are also prone to damage with reverse polarity..  :icon_wink:

Maybe not in that specific case, 'cause reverse voltage drop on LED is about the same with its forward voltage drop but margins aren't so wide..
(i.e. with 12V PS and prolonged reverse voltage applied, LED will be destroyed..)

(after all, about 1.5mA added to 1A shouldn't make any difference, should it..??)
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Cozybuilder

Re: Power Supply Filter Anatomy
« Reply #104 on: September 08, 2017, 05:13:26 AM »
Good thing it has a CLR to keep the current down, no? Hmm, 2k2 with 9V would allow a max of 4mA, would that blow an LED with the power connected reverse?
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Phoenix

Re: Power Supply Filter Anatomy
« Reply #105 on: September 08, 2017, 05:49:48 AM »
Good thing it has a CLR to keep the current down, no? Hmm, 2k2 with 9V would allow a max of 4mA, would that blow an LED with the power connected reverse?

It's not the current that'll kill a reverse-biased LED (or any other diode for that matter), but the voltage. Because no current is flowing through under reverse bias conditions (except some small leakage current), the full voltage is across the LED, none is dropped by the current limiting resistor. Vrrm (max reverse voltage) for most standard 3mm or 5mm LED's is 5V, so 9V is really pushing things. You could put an anti-parallel diode alongside it (say a 1N4001 or even a 1N4148/1N914) - that is reverse biased under normal conditions, but if reverse polarity is applied, it'll cap the voltage across the LED to 0.7V. Seems simpler to me just to connect the LED after the series schottky.

antonis

Re: Power Supply Filter Anatomy
« Reply #106 on: September 08, 2017, 06:05:19 AM »
@Cozy: I refered to Rich's shematic with 4k7 current limiting rersistor and 2V voltage drop on LED...

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Cozybuilder

Re: Power Supply Filter Anatomy
« Reply #107 on: September 08, 2017, 10:03:45 AM »
Thank you, I learned something today  ;D
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Kipper4

Re: Power Supply Filter Anatomy
« Reply #108 on: September 08, 2017, 12:02:55 PM »
Not my schematic. It was in Potl's first post.
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