Back again with a Aion corvus

Started by whomeno, September 08, 2020, 06:36:02 PM

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whomeno

I got the corvus pcb today. got it done, but it has low volume. you have to max the volume. I used for IC1 4558. For IC2 I tried a ua741 and a tlo71. same thing no chage. This has an option to use IC3 for a dual opamp so I tried a 4558 in IC3. same thing no change.so I probed it. I got good tone going to R8-8.2K, but loose it coming out of the IC2. I will attach the build doc along with pics. the build doc has the schematic in it. I am NOT having a good day. Or dose this pedal behave like this, you have to max the volume?
the link to build doc
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l3x7vvmvbaeerg9/aion-corvus-ehx-big-muff-pi-opamp-documentation.pdf?dl=1

Voltage 9 Volt

4558
1  4.29 V
2  4.31 V
3  4.27 V
4  0 v
5  4.28 v
6  4.37 v
7  4.41 v
8  8.69 v

TLO71
1  .014 v
2  4.74 v
3  4.56 v
4  0 v
5  .014 v
6  4.85 v
7  8.69 v
8  0 v







Gear as of now
Gibson 2017 Les Paul Tribute T
Epiphone Les paul Special (upgraded)
Marshall DSL 20 Head
Peavy Valve king 20 W
2 X 12 Cabinet with celestion vintage 30 & celestion G12T-75
And a lot of pedals

Marcos - Munky

Perhaps does the opamp big muff have a low volume output? I mean, this is the 3rd one you built using different layouts, and all of them have the same low volume issue.

If you take a look at the first build report here (https://aionelectronics.com/build-reports/?project=66), it also says about the low volume: "4558 on IC1 + 741 on IC3 = lacks headroom. I had to turn the volume knob all the way up to try to match my guitar's clean volume."

whomeno

That is what i thought also. I have yet to find a loud muff.
Thanks
Gear as of now
Gibson 2017 Les Paul Tribute T
Epiphone Les paul Special (upgraded)
Marshall DSL 20 Head
Peavy Valve king 20 W
2 X 12 Cabinet with celestion vintage 30 & celestion G12T-75
And a lot of pedals

Marcos - Munky

The regular transistor muffs are pretty loud. The same comment on the opamp muff said different opamps gave louder or quieter output volumes, so it's worth to give a try on different opamps.

whomeno

Gear as of now
Gibson 2017 Les Paul Tribute T
Epiphone Les paul Special (upgraded)
Marshall DSL 20 Head
Peavy Valve king 20 W
2 X 12 Cabinet with celestion vintage 30 & celestion G12T-75
And a lot of pedals

bushidov

#5
It would be a slight redesign of the circuit, but you could do what the transistor big muffs do and add a "recovery stage" at the end of the circuit. Essentially adding something similar to an LPB-1 after the pedal.
"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."

- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

antonis

#6
What Erik said..  :icon_wink:

"Standard" Big Muff Tonestack develops about -13dB signal attenuation resulting into a 1/5th of that coming out of last gain stage..
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willienillie

"Aion corvus" is almost a perfect anagram of "coronavirus"

WHAT DID THEY KNOW???

aion

Quote from: willienillie on September 09, 2020, 08:00:00 PM
"Aion corvus" is almost a perfect anagram of "coronavirus"

WHAT DID THEY KNOW???

Well... there's also one called the Corona which is a little more on point!

11-90-an

funny that my schem/ckt notebook's brand is corona...

even before corona...
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willienillie


Marcos - Munky

Quote from: willienillie on September 10, 2020, 06:04:22 AM
Quote from: 11-90-an on September 10, 2020, 12:34:08 AM
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Nathan!
Wow, that was pretty clever! I was guessing how to call 11-90-an, now I know :icon_mrgreen:

duck_arse

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whomeno - a question, just curious. are you knocking these builds out by the day, or are you working your way through a box-of-shame builds?
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willienillie

Quote from: Marcos - Munky on September 10, 2020, 08:22:55 AM
Quote from: willienillie on September 10, 2020, 06:04:22 AM
Quote from: 11-90-an on September 10, 2020, 12:34:08 AM
(Put my username into the periodic table)

Nathan!
Wow, that was pretty clever! I was guessing how to call 11-90-an, now I know :icon_mrgreen:

We'll have to call him Nathan Jr because we already have a well-established Nathan.  And "Nathan Jr" is from one of my favorite movies.

"Which one did ya get?"

"I don't know, but I think it was Nathan Jr."

bluebunny

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Ohm's Law - much like Coles Law, but with less cabbage...

bushidov

Quote(Put my username into the periodic table)
Erbium, Iodine, and Potassium?
"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."

- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

duck_arse

don't make me draw another line.