LFO switching led issue....

Started by deadastronaut, June 30, 2020, 05:26:14 AM

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deadastronaut

hi guys i have this lfo , works perfectly...

i added a switch to switch between 2 caps for fast and ultra slow...

however the led is very dim when switched either way...but goes very bright momentarily whilst switching

so i dont want to blow the bugger....

im only getting around 2v at the led when switched....so obviously the the led is struggling, hence the dimming...ive even changed R36 1k to a 100r..and still the same...

is there a better hookup point for the led to pulse...??????

i dont want to blow the led as i have it glued in place...but i can tap the led resistor to another point ::)

cheer guys... 8)



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Rob Strand

#1
The issue is probably the low thresholds set by the Schmitt-trigger.  That's going to make the range of voltages at the output of IC4A lower DC wise.  So what about connecting the LED to +V?     You might then need to add some series diodes to tweak the range of brightness.  It will obviously flip the polarity of the LED relative to the LFO.   Other than that you would need to add a transistor or MOSFET to drive the LED.
Send:     . .- .-. - .... / - --- / --. --- .-. -
According to the water analogy of electricity, transistor leakage is caused by holes.

deadastronaut

cheers rob, i'll put the 1k back in and try hooking it up to 9v....whilst connected where it is on the depth  too...

back in a bit.  8)
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antonis

Or maybe by lowering R27 Value..
(just a rough thought..)  :icon_redface:
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deadastronaut

well the 9v didnt work......boo hoo... :-X

antonis, hmmmm wouldnt that mess my lfo up?.....

might be worth a go though i guess.. :)
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antonis

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Quote from: deadastronaut on June 30, 2020, 05:56:51 AM
antonis, hmmmm wouldnt that mess my lfo up?.....
As far as it concerns YOUR lfo, frankly, I don't give a damn...  :icon_lol:

More seriously now, I believe it will widen Schmitt-trigger threasholds..
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deadastronaut

 :icon_mrgreen:  me neither ha ha.....

cool i'll give the 220k  a go then...  ;)
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deadastronaut

yay top man...100k did it instead of the 220k....

cheers man...... 8) 8) 8)
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antonis

#8
Well done then..  :icon_wink:

P.S.1
In case LED persists to initial switching high brightness, ulitize a "delay" circuit like the one used for 3PDT switches LED anti-popping..

P.S.2
Academical interest: Can't realize the reason for Rob's suggestion not working.. :-\
"I'm getting older while being taught all the time" Solon the Athenian..
"I don't mind  being taught all the time but I do mind a lot getting old" Antonis the Thessalonian..

duck_arse

hardwire C2 between pins 1 and 2, and then only switch in the 47uF. that might stop the light blast.



antonis the hardman might not care, but we do, Rob.
don't make me draw another line.

deadastronaut

all sorted now ducky.....you have to get up early :icon_mrgreen:

and it didnt turn into a 48 page thread... 8)
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duck_arse

early? there are some people want me to get up tomorrow instead, just so's I'm on the same day as them.
don't make me draw another line.

anotherjim

Quote from: duck_arse on June 30, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
early? there are some people want me to get up tomorrow instead, just so's I'm on the same day as them.
You don't have to get up tomorrow, you can just behave like it is yesterday today until it's the proper time for today to become tomorrow.

antonis

Quote from: duck_arse on June 30, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
hardwire C2 between pins 1 and 2,

And exactly where is presently located C2..??
"I'm getting older while being taught all the time" Solon the Athenian..
"I don't mind  being taught all the time but I do mind a lot getting old" Antonis the Thessalonian..

Rob Strand

QuoteAnd exactly where is presently located C2..??
C22.   duck_arse's idea keeps one cap connected to stop the opamp glitch (good idea).
Send:     . .- .-. - .... / - --- / --. --- .-. -
According to the water analogy of electricity, transistor leakage is caused by holes.

duck_arse

.... 2. wait for it, antonis.


is it now, yet?
don't make me draw another line.

antonis

I've been waiting for more than 24h searching for C2 in Rob's schematic.. :icon_mrgreen:
"I'm getting older while being taught all the time" Solon the Athenian..
"I don't mind  being taught all the time but I do mind a lot getting old" Antonis the Thessalonian..

diffeq

Quote from: Rob Strand on June 30, 2020, 06:42:58 PM
QuoteAnd exactly where is presently located C2..??
C22.   duck_arse's idea keeps one cap connected to stop the opamp glitch (good idea).
With centre-off switch, it even allows for a middle, ultra fast, option.


duck_arse

well waiting 24h in one of Rob's threads, about leds no less, instead of 24 pages ..... you should thank me.
don't make me draw another line.