Author Topic: Don't Tell Ray: A PT2399-Based Oil Can-Style Delay  (Read 1584 times)

Ripthorn

Don't Tell Ray: A PT2399-Based Oil Can-Style Delay
« on: February 01, 2023, 02:45:22 PM »
Hi all, this project was one that I wanted to do for a while. It's been pretty fun digging into how oil can delays work and sound. Don't Tell Ray has a front end that can get gritty and dirty, a sinusoidal LFO, modulation speeds that match the hardware, and a tone control that allows the delays to stay nice and clean or dark and mellow. I have a full rundown of how the circuit works on my page about it here: https://scientificguitarist.wixsite.com/home/don-t-tell-ray. Here is the demo:

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ElectricDruid

Re: Don't Tell Ray: A PT2399-Based Oil Can-Style Delay
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2023, 04:42:35 PM »
Very nice! You should tell Kipper, he's on a Dub trip over on another thread, and that'd be perfect!

One comment - it sounds like there's scratching on the Grit pot in the video, and checking the schematic on your site, you've got the bottom end of the volume-levelling half connected to Ground, whereas the output from the op-amp will be at Vref. So it looks like there's DC across the pot, which would explain the scratching.

Kipper4

Re: Don't Tell Ray: A PT2399-Based Oil Can-Style Delay
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2023, 09:20:31 AM »
I’m did do something similar that I think I called pitch pirate or pitch bitch….. a long time ago here.
With the pitch shifting delay.
Turned out a treat as I remember.
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otherwise, you might end-up with SOIC or gullwings, for surface mounts."


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Kipper4

Re: Don't Tell Ray: A PT2399-Based Oil Can-Style Delay
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2023, 09:29:07 AM »
My memory is deteriorating.
Fever pitch it is then

Here you go

https://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=120121.msg1123983#msg1123983
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otherwise, you might end-up with SOIC or gullwings, for surface mounts."


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ElectricDruid

Re: Don't Tell Ray: A PT2399-Based Oil Can-Style Delay
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2023, 11:54:58 AM »
My memory is deteriorating.
Like a dub echo? 'cho? 'cho? 'ho? 'o?


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Re: Don't Tell Ray: A PT2399-Based Oil Can-Style Delay
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2023, 01:48:38 PM »
Nice work, Brian.
BTW, does your pick holder do double duty as  reverb tank?  :P

anotherjim

Re: Don't Tell Ray: A PT2399-Based Oil Can-Style Delay
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2023, 04:40:25 PM »
A nice range of FX there.

Yes, the Grit pot B is scratchy because it's got DC across it. Needs R31 to go to VREF or have a cap inserted. On the other hand, you may want vintage crackles.

One thing in your description of the original, I'm pretty sure they use electrostatic recording hence the rubber heads and special oil to lube and insulate. But I'm going by hearsay so check before changing.

Ripthorn

Re: Don't Tell Ray: A PT2399-Based Oil Can-Style Delay
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2023, 07:51:53 PM »
A nice range of FX there.

Yes, the Grit pot B is scratchy because it's got DC across it. Needs R31 to go to VREF or have a cap inserted. On the other hand, you may want vintage crackles.

One thing in your description of the original, I'm pretty sure they use electrostatic recording hence the rubber heads and special oil to lube and insulate. But I'm going by hearsay so check before changing.

You may well be right about how it operates, I can't claim to understand them fully.

Thanks to you and Tom for pointing out the VREF thing, it makes sense and I'm surprised I didn't catch it. Oh well. I typically associate the grout with changing it and leaving it somewhere by and large.
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bluebunny

Re: Don't Tell Ray: A PT2399-Based Oil Can-Style Delay
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2023, 05:59:23 AM »
Can you post a complete schematic here please Brian?
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