More on Cornish pedals

[RDV]

i have a friend who plays through a fender
blues jr. and has an overdrive pedal ( a boss superoverdrive ) ......not much to look at, but when you hear him play you realize real fast that he's got some chops and makes that little tube amp really sing.

A Fender Blues Jr. and a Boss SD-1 is probably all anyone needs. That's a great sounding rig. If you can't make it happen with that, then it ain't gonna happen at all.

Regards

RDV

[Mike Nichting]

I don't know about you guys but I use "special construction" techniques when I build my pedals as well~!!
So special are my techniques that a lot of times my effects don't even work. When I start selling my effects how much should I charge extra for that??  :lol:

 I say let the builder charge what he wants and if it's worth it people will buy it. If not then he will have a ,lot of effects left laying around.

 Mike N.

[Kilby]

I totally agree with you Mike.

If he can charge that then great, I'm happy for him. I'm sure that first of every pedal he sells has been designed at the request of some name guitarist or another. Will he make money on the couple he builds for that player, I doubt it ! It may help him land a order for 'normal equipment' because he has been obliging (but he can't count on that). He probably sells the few that he makes to recoup the cost of building / designing / researching the first one, and remember he can't afford to build a crap pedal as it will screw his reputation.

If it enables a player to earn his living then 300 or so UKP is a damn bargin (Jeez how much do I spend on computer equipment per year to do exactly the same thing).

After all how many Porche, Ferrari, TVR etc drivers can really drive, hmm a couple of percent at best. If you live in a city then you seldom get to try and drive it as it's supposed to. Yeah it may be a waste, but if it makes you happy who am I to complain

On seeing Gilmour on the first or second gig "about face tour" where he used a small percentage of the Floyd PA in a 700 seater hall. All I can say is sound quality is King where Mr Gilmour is concerned, and Cornish knows his trade.

No I won't be buying one, it would be a waste, but then the DD6 I bought was expensive enough and it's a standard mass produced item.

Rob...

[RDV]

I'd still kind of like to hear what "Imminent Amp Death" sounds like!

Regards

RDV

[gorohon]

I based my opinion of Pete's pedals on my bad experience with goop.  I took a look at his website and figure they're great for those who can afford them--David Gilmore doesn't wan't to worry about his equipment, so he has Pete take care of it all (I'm sure to Dave that $10k is nothing but a flea's fart).  Pete must be doing it right, because his clients have $$$, so he charges those prices because he can (reputation is everything).  I should aspire to making my pedals that neat, just without the goop.  
Are those Jameco boxes that he uses?  What about his argument against true-bypass?  I guess that one could argue that a custom chopper is just a tricked-out Harley with an $80,000 price tag, but if I had the money....

[bwanasonic]

A Fender Blues Jr. and a Boss SD-1 is probably all anyone needs. That's a great sounding rig. If you can't make it happen with that, then it ain't gonna happen at all.

I somehow don't see the guys in Metallica nodding in agreement to this one :wink: . I really wish a Blues Jr. and a Boss anything did the trick for me. Would make life MUCH simpler. Maybe nice for bedroom gigs, but would just not cut it in the clubs I play ( at least with my drummer :lol: ) I need both loud AND clean. I wish the whole *set amp clean, use pedals for distortion* thing worked for me too. I'd consider dropping a lot of money on a pedal if it did.  Just never heard a pedal that could match the dirty channel of my Quiana with maybe a Rangemaster or Mosfet boost in front. As far as the Pete Cornish stuff, if music/gigging is your main source of income, the prices make a lot more sense.

Kerry M

[Bluesgeetar]

Is Pete ripping folks off?  Why hell yes!  But they are letting him!  You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink!  I made a response to a Cornish thread months ago here and I'll say it again.  In this day and age it is a sellers market cause nobody wants to put the time and effort into learning how to play like God so they dream some $500 dollar pedal will take them to stardom.  So if Pete can get the lazy bums to buy his pedals then so be it!  And let's some of us here develop a little common sense for the love of God!  Do you actually think David Gilmour is paying Pete for them pedals?  Hell no!  Pete get's plenty and I mean plenty a good Advertisement by being able to slap celebrities names on his website and wherever.  You know you have to pay for endorsments last time I heard.  I seriously doubt any of them fellers are paying for his pedals.  I also promise you they have pedals custom tuned to the rest of their setup.  As for the Musictoyz thread the funny thing is that the last time I heard is that

Eric Claptons most famous tone came from a Vox wah and 100 Watt Marshals and various old fuzz pedals.

Jimmy Pages most famous tone came from Teles, 59 LPs, Supro amp, Marshall amp and Tonebender pedals and various wahs and echo plex

Angus Young SG and Marshall amp!  Maybe his brother uses one now?  But I bet you there ain't a Cornish pedal anywhere on Who Made Who!

Tony Iommi  According to Ammscray is using other pedals and I've read of many different types of boosts he has used over the years.  Ain't no Cornish pedal on the original recordings of Iron Man and Wizard and sweet Leaf.  Oh maybe he is talking about the New Sabbath stuff.  Yuk!

The Moody Blues!?  Every musician I know couldn't tell me diddly about Moody Blues guitar tone.  Most everyone I know when asked what do you know about the Moody Blues and there sound, the first word that pops out of their mouth is Mellotron!

I don't know but I can say is that all the beautiful guitar tones I have come to know and loves through the years didn't come from the use a one of Pete Cornish arm and a leg pedals he selling now.  So I have no desire to own one.  Still to many vintage UK trannys to buy to make an authentic copy of the pedals responsible for the tone that made the world stop between 64 and 72 and capture our hearts and ears forever  Cornish can put that in his pipe and smoke it!

Opinions are like Assholes everyone has one and I know mine usually stink!  But then the truth always stinks.

[RDV]

A Fender Blues Jr. and a Boss SD-1 is probably all anyone needs. That's a great sounding rig. If you can't make it happen with that, then it ain't gonna happen at all.

I somehow don't see the guys in Metallica nodding in agreement to this one :wink: . I really wish a Blues Jr. and a Boss anything did the trick for me. Would make life MUCH simpler. Maybe nice for bedroom gigs, but would just not cut it in the clubs I play ( at least with my drummer :lol: ) I need both loud AND clean. I wish the whole *set amp clean, use pedals for distortion* thing worked for me too. I'd consider dropping a lot of money on a pedal if it did.  Just never heard a pedal that could match the dirty channel of my Quiana with maybe a Rangemaster or Mosfet boost in front. As far as the Pete Cornish stuff, if music/gigging is your main source of income, the prices make a lot more sense.

Kerry M

What. You ain't got no P.A.? Or monitors? I use a Marshall Half stack and a pile of pedals to do what I do. That said; the best player I've ever played with in my life(20+ years of paying gigs) got it done with a small 40 watt combo with one 12" speaker with no pedals. I love effects. I love big amps. But what you're playing through doesn't matter if you're a monster player(which I'm not claiming to be). Also, I don't think Metalica type music was what was being refered to, I believe it was blues or roots rock. I'm also sick of drummers that play too goddamn loud, whats that got to do with music? Ain't they ever heard of the word "blend", how about "groove", or "feel"?

Morning rant over & out

Regards

RDV

[casey]

yeah, we definitely were not doing metallica type music.
i guess my point in all of that was exactly what RDV was
saying about a good player not needing all of the extra stuff.
the funny thing is, is that this guy could afford the best,
but that's his chosen rig.

[gorohon]

I emailed Pete Cornish Pedals, just to see if they would reply about the goo, and actually had Pete reply back (I didn't expect that).  He said that the coating protected the copper on the PCB and the components from corrosion, the coating is solvent-proof, and that he has methods of being able to do repairs--despite the coating being solvent-proof.  He also said that since using the coating, it has improved the reliability of his pedals immensely.  He didn't say, however, just what exactly the coating was.  He also pointed out that it was important that the flux was completely cleaned off (obvious to me) before applying the coating.
Maybe its just that rubber stuff that you dip tool handles in--it comes in red.