OT: now THIS is psychoacoustics!

[gez]

I think it was Les Paul who used to do his mixes using a TV/radio speaker still in the cab.

[Nasse]

Beatles and Abba records sound bass thin, as well as Led Zeppelin. Made before Techno Bass.

[Tony Forestiere]

2) There was a computer gadget for gamers a few years back that hung around your neck like a scarf.  Not unlike the force feedback joysticks intended to make you feel like you were hit, this thing provided subwoofer-like tones directly to the chestal area so you could feel the throb without your neighbours having to also.  Do YOU see them in the stores anymore?  I know *I* certainly don't.

Sorry;(new here)

I believe Mark is referring to "Bone Fones", a LOW freq vibratory device that strapped over the user's neck and made physical contact with the users collarbone-upper ribcage, thus imparting the lows to the bone structure. With the Bone Fone, headphones, 21" monitor, Voodoo II 3Dfx,and Nine Inch Nails BGM--Even Qauke 1 became a total sensory experience!! :twisted:

BTW: re: Those THUMPA-THUMPA Bass laden cars scare me!! The lowest limit of human hearing is 20khz, but the output could reasonable be below this threshhold. Isn't the resonant freq of the human bowel @ around 11-12 HZ? No wonder I have to S@#T when I hear one of these vehicles stop next to me at a stoplight! :oops:

[Alex C]

I can understand the logic behind using a car system to test a mix in order to get an idea of what it will sound like to the "common folk."  But how many people have Buttkicker Super-Knockout Smashfest vibration subwoofers in their cars?  I don't think it's worth the cost to find out what it will sound like to the three people in the world who do.  


Alex

[Jason Stout]

Is this Buttkicker thing an over the top vibrate your car effect, or is it something more subtle?  As I sit here thinking of how to type my thoughts it comes tome.....The damn thing is called BUTTKICKER! I think I have experienced enough.
I wrote

I'd like to experience the Butt kicker. Anyone have any listening time with a similar device?

[RDV]

Buttsticker???

Sounds painful!

REgards

RDV

[Jason Stout]

I guess it depends which end of the stick your on...















Sorry :wink:

[vinny]

the link to the "aura bass" at all electronics (a GREAT surplus supplier) should satisfy anyones interest in this subject. Also...if you had an extra 250,000 with a (slight) interest in the 'music business' and were approached by an 'entrepeneur'- you ,too, might be persuaded to invest in 'the next big thang'. Be kind to the poor bass man.

[petemoore]

Sounds funny too. Hip Hop stereo for the car in his room and turns the bass so that it lie envelopes on itself,,, very unnatural to say the least.
 There's a limit to how many knobs and roloffs make sound 'better'.
  I remember when a Mid control WITH Loudness also was like WOW!!
 Amps were designed for fidelity, and voiced for a good sounding resopnse [er at least that was the goal] over a wide band of frequencies. Add bass and trable and the records sounded just great IMO.
  There's no way to compensate for the variety of different equipment that recordings will be played on these days.
 The fact that a wave can be stopped, altered, and reshaped anyway you want has led to records that don't sound real good alot of the time... opinion.
 Back in the day of LP's and cassete you had real good, normal and cruddy...now when I listen to CD's theres like parts missing, new parts that dont' really sound right, mixes are all mixed up...somehow radio seems to sound pretty close to the same...CD's are just dry and flat sound IMO unless you get all the  high definition and gear for it.
 I would take just nice fidelity speakers, amp and turntable any day of the week too.

[Mike Burgundy]

I should have totally worded that different. I know the benifits of testing a mix under different and crappy circumstances, do that myself. It was more the suggestion that the car suddenly sounded (!) more hi-fi, or better, but it was really late and I wasn't completely focused at the time. Car stereos are truly crap (mostly down to acoustics), so if you want a crappy setup...
Silly me

Pete:

I guess she's too young to be Elvis' love child. Now I feel old.  

What are you suggesting? That you, perhaps...?