4PDT switches

Started by Gladmarr, October 10, 2005, 11:32:40 PM

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Gladmarr

I don't know if any of you have seen these yet, but I have a pedal that has one in it and now I figured out what they are.  They're not cheap, but for the few times you'd actually need one, it's good to know there's a decent 4PDT switch out there.



http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?handler=displayproduct&lstdispproductid=321501&e_categoryid=142&e_pcodeid=50615

http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?M=BYPN&I=13&C=1&PN=MPG406N

soggybag

That's very interesting. Is the top of the switch plastic or metal?

Gladmarr

The top is plastic, but it's just a tiny cap.  The actual metal top of the switch is almost as thick as the shaft of a Carling or Cliff switch, but there is no metal "head" like you'd have with a Carling or the like.  There's a pedal company out of Japan that uses them already. 

http://lalweb.com/effects.html

KB

Hi All

For information, here's an alternate from Banzai effects (probably a good source for members on the European side of the pond :icon_biggrin:)

http://www.banzaieffects.com/europe/parts/switches.htm

Scroll down the page a bit, these look to be just mental, no plastic, not used one so cannot say.

Kevin

Mark Hammer

For purists who want true bypass, an indicator LED, the pristine quiet of battery power, AND the abiloity to leave all your pedals plugged in on a pedal board, such a switch would let you have them all, by using the extra set of contacts to disable the battery in bypass mode.

Not exactly recommended, though, since it can sometimes take a couple of seconds for some key caps to be charged up when you want to turn the effect on.

Gladmarr

...I was thinking it'd be a good tool for a true bypass stereo pedal with or without an LED.  I don't think I'd do the battery kill thing, for the very reasons you mention, Dr. Hammer.  I'd be expecting a pop or a squeak as the pedal comes up when switching with that approach.  Ick.

Hal

Quote from: Mark Hammer on October 11, 2005, 10:02:18 AM
For purists who want true bypass, an indicator LED, the pristine quiet of battery power, AND the abiloity to leave all your pedals plugged in on a pedal board, such a switch would let you have them all, by using the extra set of contacts to disable the battery in bypass mode.

Not exactly recommended, though, since it can sometimes take a couple of seconds for some key caps to be charged up when you want to turn the effect on.

if you're killing the battery, you don't need to put the LED on the switch...

right?

Stevo

 :icon_eek:

I can remeber some time ago quite awhile ago when on this forum (past) that it was hard to get DPDT switches...When someone had them man what a swarm of pedal stompers

:icon_eek:
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Alex C

For thoughts on the uses of a 4PDT, read this thread.

Hal

...I think bonzai is selling the same switches...

analogmike

Are those the same as the Fujisoku switches that Way Huge and Fulltone used to use? We used to use the 4PDT in our stereo chorus but those Fujis are not strong enough to be used in stompboxes commercially. They break after a few hundred stomps.
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cd

Quote from: analogmike on October 11, 2005, 09:31:59 PM
Are those the same as the Fujisoku switches that Way Huge and Fulltone used to use? We used to use the 4PDT in our stereo chorus but those Fujis are not strong enough to be used in stompboxes commercially. They break after a few hundred stomps.

Yup, that's what they are.  Xotic stopped using the 3PDTs as well, flimsy as hell, only advantage is size, really - they're smaller than the usual blue Taiwan 3PDT.

Andi

I use the Knitter ones for series/parallel switches and order changers and so on, after warning people that they're not as robust as the 3PDTs.  I've only had one fail so far, and the chap did admit that he was literally jumping on the pedal... ;)